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Many Firms Are 'AI Washing' Claims of Intelligent Products (axios.com)

Software companies are seeking to exploit the current artificial intelligence craze by "AI washing" -- exaggerating the role of AI in their products, according to a new report by Gartner, the research firm. From a report: Gartner, which tracks commercial manias through a tool it calls the Hype Cycle, compares what is currently going on in AI with a prior surge in environmental over-statement -- "greenwashing, in which companies exaggerate the environmental-friendliness of their products or practices for business benefit." The bottom line: More than 1,000 vendors say their products employ AI, but many are "applying the AI label a little too indiscriminately," Gartner says in its report. Kriti Sharma, who runs the AI team at Sage, tells Axios that a lot of companies are seeking to solve problems using AI that would be better done by humans. And what is often called AI "is just automation that you are doing," she said.

93 comments

  1. BEEP BOOP FUCK THE LOYALISTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But the Turing test cuts both ways. You can't tell if a machine has gotten smarter or if you've just lowered your own standards of intelligence to such a degree that the machine seems smart. If you can have a conversation with a simulated person presented by an AI program, can you tell how far you've let your sense of personhood degrade in order to make the illusion work for you?

    People degrade themselves in order to make machines seem smart all the time. Before the crash, bankers believed in supposedly intelligent algorithms that could calculate credit risks before making bad loans. We ask teachers to teach to standardized tests so a student will look good to an algorithm. We have repeatedly demonstrated our species' bottomless ability to lower our standards to make information technology look good. Every instance of intelligence in a machine is ambiguous.

    The same ambiguity that motivated dubious academic AI projects in the past has been repackaged as mass culture today. Did that search engine really know what you want, or are you playing along, lowering your standards to make it seem clever? While it's to be expected that the human perspective will be changed by encounters with profound new technologies, the exercise of treating machine intelligence as real requires people to reduce their mooring to reality.

    1. Re: BEEP BOOP FUCK THE LOYALISTS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't entirely disagree with what you said, however in my opinion AI doesn't need to be intelligent in a way humans understand. We are confused by lots of things we see in the universe.

    2. Re:BEEP BOOP FUCK THE LOYALISTS by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      If you can have a conversation with a simulated person presented by an AI program, can you tell how far you've let your sense of personhood degrade in order to make the illusion work for you?

      You have to perform the test in a scientific fashion.

      In the original Turing test, a human converses freely with a machine for an arbitrary period of time (days? months?) .
      The human has no idea who or what they are conversing with.

      Afterword, a panel of experts reviews the recordings of the conversation and tries to determine which was the human and which was the machine.
      This repeats many (dozens? hundreds?) of times.
      If a statistically significant number of judges guess right, then the machine has failed the test. Otherwise, the test must have been too easy.

  2. As the maker of AI toilet paper by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    Let me just say that my claims that my patented AI helps it to roll right off into your hand are entirely true. And anyone who says otherwise is just jealous that their toilet paper isn't nearly as smart.

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    1. Re:As the maker of AI toilet paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I see a VR video of it in action on your website?

    2. Re:As the maker of AI toilet paper by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      If you don't stop with your misleading marketing, you'll cannibalize sales of your nano-tech TP.

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    3. Re:As the maker of AI toilet paper by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      Hmm...it seems that "AI" is the new "Gluten Free".

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    4. Re:As the maker of AI toilet paper by allo · · Score: 1

      does it roll on the wall or far from the wall?

    5. Re:As the maker of AI toilet paper by Falos · · Score: 1

      We don't have a website, we do everything via twitter, so that your only option is to generate attention for us. Thanks!

    6. Re:As the maker of AI toilet paper by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I don't even know the name of it, but I used to work in a place where it was neither. The axis was - get this - normal to the wall. For any DeVry grads, that means "sticking out".

      I know, I lead a crazy life. The odds will catch up with me one day.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    7. Re:As the maker of AI toilet paper by allo · · Score: 1

      I've seen such a thing as well. But there are still two possible directions. But possibly then one really makes much less sense. But you know people will always try to do the wrong thing.

  3. Our Apps Use AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then I say that about all our developers.

  4. And history repeats... by sumsguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you start seeing companies changing their names to include AI, start cashing out your investments. Similar to the .com bubble, and the craze over a company name having *-tronics in the 1960's (including ones having NOTHING to do with electronics), from what I remember reading.

    1. Re:And history repeats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The *-turbo was a great fad too, I suppose the turbo-tronic would be it's pinnacle...

    2. Re:And history repeats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The *-turbo was a great fad too, I suppose the turbo-tronic would be it's pinnacle...

      Even better: the iTurboTronicAI-inator (new and improved; now Gluten Free and Low Fat!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    3. Re:And history repeats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget putting "2000" after everything! What comes after 2000? 3000!

    4. Re:And history repeats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iTurboTronicAI-inator.COM

      FTFY

    5. Re: And history repeats... by Circlotron · · Score: 1

      Don't forget fuzzy logic. Also put the word Blue in there somewhere.

    6. Re:And history repeats... by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      It's the AI-crazy 80's again.

  5. Only themselves to blame by Desler · · Score: 2

    And the reason they are doing so is to get in on the PHB-loved, Gartner "Magic Quadrant" scam game.

    1. Re:Only themselves to blame by sheph · · Score: 1

      This is entirely correct. I know many clueless managers who live and die by that Magic Quadrant.

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      I don't believe in karma, I just call it like I see it.
    2. Re:Only themselves to blame by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      I see Gartner the same way as "shock-blogs: full of opinionated crap and fake news, but often a convenient source of interesting background material and further reading.

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      If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
    3. Re:Only themselves to blame by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Fuck. Had to look it up. Seems that's an actual thing.

      Seems to be a lot of fluff. A second-rate pastiche on BCG's matrix thingummahicky.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    4. Re:Only themselves to blame by MattCC · · Score: 1

      I think you're a little harsh. Garnet puts a lot of AI into those reports.

  6. I remember when it was just called... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Lying.

    1. Re:I remember when it was just called... by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      or "buzzword chasing". I've seen it many times since the beginning of my career. When relational databases became The Thing in the mid 1980's, every database product made just enough tweeks to call their database "relational", even though the implementation was either questionably relational, and/or done poorly.

      When GUI's were The Thing when Windows 3.1 came out, every product tried to shoehorn their app into a GUI. Often they bundled it with the DOS version so that when customers found out the hard way the GUI version was dodgy or immature, they'd install and use the DOS version. Their phone support people echoed, "try installing the DOS version, you may like it better" hundreds of times a day.

      I was just reading about the early years of Oracle corporation. They bragged their database ran on a dozen or so computer brands (AKA "cross-platform"). In practice, it didn't work very well on most those listed on the brochure because they didn't bother fixing the platform-specific bugs for low-sales platforms. So, in practice, Oracle really ran on just a handful of computer brands.

      Jamming dodgy AI into products to call them "AI based" seems to be the same ol' game.

    2. Re:I remember when it was just called... by green1 · · Score: 4

      Companies don't "lie". They engage in "marketing".

    3. Re:I remember when it was just called... by sheph · · Score: 1

      aka Marketing

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      I don't believe in karma, I just call it like I see it.
    4. Re:I remember when it was just called... by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      Companies don't "lie". They engage in "marketing".

      And that reflects the large amounts of cashish being thrown at AI. That's just human nature or business nature.

      The underlying and more scary socioeconomics should be considered - competing AI in business. It was one thing when people competed against people, but machine against machine is far more serious even if people are not directly in harm's way. The problem is that machines, smart or not, are still pretty competent at brute force. A machine that is losing knows only to search longer and overturn more stones. Any practical process is likely to be less than 50% efficient so say hello to frightful amounts of waste. Yet if the smart machine is the most productive gorilla in the room or in the stock exchange, people will bet the most bananas on it. In this world, any company who wants to survive will claim to do AI.

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  7. Intelligence? by Togden · · Score: 1

    I disagree, I think if anything claims of artificial intelligence have been understated for thousands of years. Wasn't it just last year the US voted to have an artificially intelligent president?

    1. Re:Intelligence? by green1 · · Score: 1

      I don't think he can yet pass the Turing test, so I'm not sure that counts as true AI.

    2. Re:Intelligence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're off a few years, it was eight years ago....

  8. We enter a new era of AI products scam! by grumpy-cowboy · · Score: 1

    About to see it on a Tide soap box just beside HE tag!

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  9. No AI by Major_Disorder · · Score: 1

    Not now. Not ever.
    I firmly believe that MOVIE/TV version of AI will never happen. We will get expert systems, with pretty good machine learning, but that is as close to AI as we will ever get.

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    First law of people: People are generally stupid.
    1. Re:No AI by Anon-Admin · · Score: 1

      I would tend to agree. Transistor size and density is reaching the point where the quantum tunneling effect kicks in and breaks transistors. In a nutshell, Moore's law is about over as we will not be able to continue to put more transistors in smaller packages.

      Some new form of computing may be invented that lets it continue but I don't think we will get anywhere near the abilities of a human brain.

    2. Re:No AI by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Somehow, the brain performs in ways that create intelligence... as physical processes that follow predictable and natural laws, there is no theoretical reason that those way could not be simulated in software... the problem with making AI is that we don't know precisely what we need to simulate, or exactly how much of it to get something that looks intelligent.

    3. Re:No AI by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Why? What is it about your brain that you believe makes it so special that it cannot be duplicated by artificial* means?

      * I guess in vitro fertilization is close enough to natural for your definition.

    4. Re:No AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would tend to agree. Transistor size and density is reaching the point where the quantum tunneling effect kicks in and breaks transistors.

      There's some degree of uncertainty to this.

    5. Re: No AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck you, fish tits!

    6. Re:No AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also an adult brain has been trained for over 18 years.

    7. Re:No AI by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      the problem with making AI is that we don't know precisely what we need to simulate, or exactly how much of it to get something that looks intelligent.

      Simulating brunettes would get the job done.

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      Know your pads. One time pad: good for cryptography. Two timing pad: where to take your mistress.
    8. Re:No AI by RespekMyAthorati · · Score: 1

      If you lack a crystal ball, then you have no fucking idea what machines of the next century will be able to do.

      And neither does anyone else.

    9. Re:No AI by Major_Disorder · · Score: 1

      Who says I don't have a crystal ball?

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      First law of people: People are generally stupid.
  10. The hype is real by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I run an analytics department for a Fortune 250, and MBA types are all over AI thinking it's the new big data. We've seen some waves over the past 5-7 years; first with predictive modeling, then machine learning, now AI. Difficult to explain in 140 characters or less that the statistical techniques aren't changing that much; but it's the data structures and computing power that are allowing us to do more and more. Analysts (aka 'data scientists') feel pressured to exaggerate their own capabilities given a disconnect between perception and reality - plus the thousand of thousands of new grads claiming to be able to make a machine think and make decisions. Most of what I've seen from AI is still fairly programmatic, very very high processing intensive automation.

    1. Re:The hype is real by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Analysts (aka 'data scientists') feel pressured to exaggerate their own [AI-ish] capabilities

      Unfortunately, I have to say, "go for it!". Because you are competing in the marketplace with exaggerators, if you want the prizes, you have to play the game. Don't outright lie, just take advantage of fuzzy definitions.

      For example, I can claim I once did "AI programming" because I made script that did something similar to sorting in-coming email messages to auto-distribute them to the proper department. It parsed out each word and ran each one through a word-probability table with a (simplified) schema that resembled:

      WordCategories (table)
      -----
      WORD......CATEGORY....RANK
      nigerian..spam...........9
      offer.....spam...........3
      offer.....contracts......2 // word can be in multiple categories
      problem...customer-srvc..5
      broken....customer-srvc..7
      due.......billing........4
      invoice...billing........6
      court.....legal..........5

      The message would be routed to the department (category) with the highest total score (sum of ranks). If the score were low overall, it would get routed to general customer service or a receptionist to manually inspect it.

      Pretty basic, but it can still fall under the general category of "AI".

  11. HTML 5 AI VR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the FUTURE'S FUTURE! Nothing says awesome like running AI in a browser while being so bloated and inefficient, it sucks up 90% of the Earth's resources! GO BLOATED AI of the FUTURE!!! So the future is down the line when the greedy ignoramus have latched onto some other hyped tech that replaces the current hyped trend.

  12. Deluting AI by Anon-Admin · · Score: 2

    I have said many times that AI is not as advanced as many people think. AI will not take your job any time soon, it is not a few years away, and human level AI may not be here for centuries.

    So, you will not be put out of work by AI any time soon, and with that in mind UBI is not coming anytime soon.

    1. Re:Deluting AI by grumpy-cowboy · · Score: 1

      Exactly. People (read here 'shitty tech journalism') mix AI and Automation.

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    2. Re:Deluting AI by jeffc128ca · · Score: 1

      AI won't be taking jobs soon, but automation will. It does't take AI or machine learning to replace the majority of any office work. In my department there are about 1000 people. Most of them are just reading from one screen some data to pass off to another person will copy and paste to the next. With some intelligent scripts automating things I could reduce the department size down to 50 people. My boss usually tells me not to say these things out loud.

    3. Re:Deluting AI by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      So, you will not be put out of work by AI any time soon, and with that in mind UBI is not coming anytime soon.

      So all those truck- and cabdriver jobs are safe for a long time to come, then?

  13. Something I agree with from Gartner?? by ErichTheRed · · Score: 2

    From my point of view as a systems engineer/architect, my usual interactions with Gartner involve exchanges with management similar to the following -- "Vendor W's Product X is the leader in Technology Space Y -- look, they're in the Gartner Magic Quadrant. We're pleased to announce that we're all in on Product X." This cycle repeats every year or so, with last year's Product X replaced with Product Z, who's in the Magic Quadrant this year.

    Having done this a million times at many different companies, it's easy to be cynical about Gartner. It's quite obvious that vendors pay for their reviews, and management loves the Magic Quadrant because it removes any blame from them when it comes time to do a lessons learned. It's the modern equivalent of "no one ever got fired for buying IBM." But -- this report is actually pretty accurate. In the systems management space, we're getting a lot of magic tools that have the "AI" stamp on them, or some lesser equivalent like machine learning. Even if it's the equivalent of IFTTT when applied to real world systems ("system is down, so send an alert while we try to perform the recovery steps in the runbook") it's being called AI.

    It's just the bubble coming to the top -- social media, apps, etc. are also at the top of the hype cycle.

  14. Buzzwords Get Funding by Thelasko · · Score: 1

    Executives fund things that have the right buzzwords. Right now it's AI. Before that, IoT. I remember engines getting funded because they were called "Fuel Cells". It's been going on forever.

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    One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
    1. Re:Buzzwords Get Funding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Totally true. We have our office at a co-working space and I recently overheard this exchange between three startup founders:

      "We didn't get the deal, I think we need to add more AI into our presentation"

      After about three weeks I see the three man team celebrating and ask what's up. They were funded. Their app is a vague social-thing with under 500 users.

  15. AI Washing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amazon for example with Alexa, not that it isn't an interesting product but it doesn't have even pretend intelligence just a bunch of pre-programmed commands. And Apple with Siri. Yes that's great that the programmer has included a question that asks exactly about the need for an umbrella but that doesn't look even a little bit like intelligence until I can come up with my own related questions that it'll interpret. And... pretty much every other company claiming AI, now that I come to think about it.

  16. Don't Blame the Startups/Companies by speedplane · · Score: 1

    The reason this problem exists is because of shoddy tech journalists, who will gladly promote ridiculously wild claims as truths without a scintilla of investigation. When the true fraudsters are so much attention, it forces the more legitimate players who operate on the outskirts of the AI world to start putting their toes in the water.

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    1. Re:Don't Blame the Startups/Companies by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      Can you express "scintilla" in fractions of a library of congress?

    2. Re:Don't Blame the Startups/Companies by Graydyn+Young · · Score: 1

      It would also help if investors had a clue instead of just giving money to the guy in a flashy suit that screams buzzwords at them.

    3. Re:Don't Blame the Startups/Companies by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      It's i red cunt hairs.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    4. Re:Don't Blame the Startups/Companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      who will gladly promote ridiculously wild claims as truths without a scintilla of investigation.

      For which they are well paid by the publicity agents of the companies benefiting from the wild claims. Welcome to the real world kid, enjoy your stay.

    5. Re:Don't Blame the Startups/Companies by Mouldy · · Score: 1

      So much this. I came here to post the same comment

      I was recently involved in a project that did not use AI, despite other similar projects by other companies using AI. Anyway, it was all very exciting, and innovative and the company roped in its press contacts to shout our new product from the rooftops and we, the project team & the company, were VERY clear with the press when we were asked about our use of AI. We explicitly said "This system doesn't use any form of AI". Many times. I seriously cannot emphasise enough how much we told them we didn't use AI because we did not want them to be spreading misinformation about our product and the first assumption for our system was "it must be using AI".

      So, next morning the papers & websites etc were all filled with "$company launches exciting new project that uses AI" with "related" articles that attempt to go into some depth about AI in general and whether skynet's going to kill us all.

      Journalism isn't just inaccurate or misinformed. It is outright deception to increase readership numbers. Journalism is literal fiction. I'm sure some places are worse than others - but it is very difficult to gauge.

      I read recently about a psychological effect - which I suspect it's one of those eponymous laws - whereby if you read an article in the newspaper about an area you are highly knowledgeable - you laugh at the inaccuracies of the article. You then turn the page and read something that you are not an expert in and accept it as fact.

      For some reason of human nature, despite most people having personal experience of reading something in the paper that they know is untrue, people will generally forgive those inaccuracies and assume they're rare occurrences. My recent experience with the press and our not-AI project has made me much more sceptical of anything I read.

  17. Everyone capitalizes on the next 'buzz' thing by adosch · · Score: 1

    I wish I could be surprised. Yet another tech-of-the-day that people will embellish that the do in return for some quick pocket lining. I'm sure, at most, people are claiming their "supervised math model" or "that one algorithm" someone wrote with a bit of data massage as input is now re-branded in the marketing room as AI.

    Honestly, how can I blame the moral compass-less entrepreneurs and suit-genius of washed exploitation? I guess if you're going to get a flocking and get some quick money, I guess why not.

    This entire post brought to you by the number $0.00 and the letters J-E-A-L-O-U-S.

  18. My phone has AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a program that accepts the price of a meal, and uses sophisticated artificial intelligence to calculate the tip!

    I have another one that will accept a phone number, and use artificial intelligence to facilitate real time voice chat with another person!

    The best one is the AI that will make the phone hold down paper if I put the phone on top of it!

    It really is amazing.

  19. Thermostats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was at home depot over lunch just today and saw Honeywell thermostats that said "Uses Artificial Intelligence to manage your home comfort!" on the packaging.

    *facepalm*

    1. Re: Thermostats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, check your anthroprivilege, you ignorant hairless ape. PID controllers are smarter than some of the so-called 'people' I see around town.

    2. Re: Thermostats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, that's one of the funniest/saddest things I've read in a while

  20. if (condition1) do_action1(); else if by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if (condition1)
        do_action1();
    else if (condition2)
        do_action2(); // AI!

  21. Change MANY to ALL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have yet to see AI. No one has made it yet.
    VI like Mass Effect, sure.
    Watson was the closest I ever saw.

  22. Well, since there are no AI's... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its pretty hard to have a product with an AI in it. Maybe they mean SI (Simulated Intelligence)?

  23. It's all AI by jasenj1 · · Score: 1

    if(A) then {
    B
    } else {
    C
    }

    Look, ma! I done used artificial intelligence!

    1. Re:It's all AI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You jest, but AI includes more than just deep learning. Expert systems, decision trees, and heuristics are forms of AI that boil down to nothing more fancy that boolean logic. There is, however, usually nontrivial math involved in choosing conditions and branches that produce the best results.

  24. AI Winter 2.0 by Suiggy · · Score: 1

    Elon Musk and friends have nothing to worry about. AI will be killed off again by companies over-hyping something that's not quite there yet, thus cutting funding before the AGIs become self aware. We'll be saved just in time!

  25. Woosh by allo · · Score: 1

    Do you really think something like Siri needs an AI to work?
    It needs some clever prerecorded questions and answers and some fuzzy matching for the questions. And then it works better than an AI, as its clear what features siri can provide and what it cannot. So Some program optimized works out of the box, while some AI optimizing itself needs a long time to reach 90% of this. Of course, the AI can work and its hyped now, but most products do not need an AI.

  26. Forrester by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    Forrester's latest report says that they aren't. Not even a little bit.

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    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  27. updates resume by acrimonious+howard · · Score: 1

    More than 1,000 vendors say their products employ AI, but many are "applying the AI label a little too indiscriminately,"

    /me updates resume - Acrimonious "AI" Howard

    1. Re:updates resume by dasgoober · · Score: 1

      I will introduce "typos" to my resume: "AI ded users with em AI l configuration"

  28. Just supports what I've said all along by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    So-called 'AI' is media hype and VC bait and has NOTHING to do with actual Artificial Intelligence. This is just the nail in the coffin.

  29. Many Commenters Are 'AI Washing' Claims by radarskiy · · Score: 2

    If it exists, then it's not AI.
    If it doesn't exist, it's vaporware and thus not AI.

    1. Re:Many Commenters Are 'AI Washing' Claims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, the "AI is by definition impossible" line.

      How about a definition of "AI" that can exist? Could there be such a thing?

  30. It does not matter by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Consumers don't know what AI even is, so it's not deceptive to use a term that is completely meaningless to them.

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
  31. Poor AI community by OneHundredAndTen · · Score: 1

    The AI community has been spewing out mostly hype and preposterous forecasts for almost 60 years now. Sure, we have Watson and the Go champ, but translations remain only marginally useful, and chatbots seem to become, if anything, more pathetic with every passing year. As an academic discipline, AI remains tainted, and all this hype is only going to make things worse, in this respect, once it becomes clear that it can not live up (as usual) to expectations.

  32. AI = Minority Report by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Customers don't want driverless cars either. If you're one of the young drones that works for these companies, please stop feeding the beast. Your "enthusiasm for tech" is making the wrong people powerful.

  33. NWO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The companies that push green and AI past the point of sanity are usually publicly-traded companies bought out with the help of central bankers and proxies. They are pushing a political doctrine and will cannibalize their sales to do it unless the central bankers keep laundering more money into it like Carlos Slim and the NY Times. Avoid doing business with them at all costs.

  34. Wait, what? Thank God for Gartner! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Companies trying to sell me products take excessive liberties on describing the capabilities of their products? Marketing people stretch the truth to support their narrative? Thank God we have Gartner and its Hype Cycle and Magic Quadrants, or I never would have been able to figure it out on my own!

  35. Case in point by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

    Basic statistics are now considered "AI": http://www.iflscience.com/tech...

    Something similar has happened with "algorithm", as it seems to appear whenever Facebook, Google etc. are doing something sinister with your data. I guess elementary school was being super evil when I was taught long division.

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    Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
  36. How shall I say, 'Duh?'? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously. People this smart can't be this dumb. Also, even the most advanced 'AI' is still just a *form* of automation. Hype, hype, hype.

  37. Yes we know by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    It's making it quite obvious what products/companies are full of shit and best to avoid. So thanks for that I guess!

  38. Obligatory CommitStrip by complete+loony · · Score: 2
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    09F91102 no, 455FE104 nope, F190A1E8 uh-uh, 7A5F8A09 that's not it, C87294CE no. Ah! 452F6E403CDF10714E41DFAA257D313F.
  39. Automatic cord management by InfiniteLoopCounter · · Score: 1

    This reminds of when I once bought an external USB card reader with "automatic cable management", which is what I was after. In the box on the side was the cheapest and nastiest plastic spool I've even seen.

  40. What's axios? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This news site just showed up out of the blue one day. Does anyone know what they're about, exactly?

  41. There's been AI in games for years... by The123king · · Score: 1

    People seem to forget that AI has been around for decades. It's just that when people used to say "AI", it meant "i wrote a fancy script that makes these digital dudes walk around", and now AI seems to mean some sort or self-learning "neural network" program.

    All told, it really depends on what you define as AI.

    --
    If you gave me a choice between a printer and a giraffe with explosive diarrhoea, i'll get my ladder and my raincoat
  42. W00t! by easyTree · · Score: 1

    Many Firms Are 'AI Washing' Claims of Intelligent Products

    An example the article is quick to follow...

  43. Sure But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you seen what passes for AI in most games? It's pathetic.

    Tell me you haven't seen this. An NPC character gets caught at the top or bottom of stairs and is unable to use the stairs. They get caught under them, or stuck on a railing, or seem unable to decide to use them.

    Or this. A game piece or character comes under attack. Though fully equipped for battle, both offensively and defensively, the game piece just stands there like a moron, taking damage. They don't even attempt to take cover! Unless you intervene they will die without having lifted a finger. All the resources poured into them will be lost.

    Or this. A game character starts cycling back and forth in some repetitious activity. They aren't accomplishing anything and often would be farther ahead just standing still. It's like they have OCD or something and have to touch every stone in the walkway exactly 100 times...

    Yes, many AI controlled game characters aren't quite that bad any more. However even the peak of AI accomplishment in very modern games is pretty bad.