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FBI Tracked 'Fake News' Believed To Be From Russia On Election Day (cnn.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from CNN: The FBI monitored social media on Election Day last year in an effort to track a suspected Russian disinformation campaign utilizing "fake news," CNN has learned. In the months leading up to Election Day, Twitter and Facebook were the feeding grounds for viral "news" stories floating conspiracies and hoaxes, many aimed at spreading negative false claims about Hillary Clinton. On Election Day, dozens of agents and analysts huddled at a command center arrayed with large monitoring screens at the FBI headquarters in Washington watching for security threats, according to multiple sources. That included analysts monitoring cyber threats, after months of mounting Russian intrusions targeting every part of the US political system, from political parties to policy think-tanks to state election systems. On this day, there was also a group of FBI cyber and counterintelligence analysts and investigators watching social media. FBI analysts had identified social media user accounts behind stories, some based overseas, and the suspicion was that at least some were part of a Russian disinformation campaign, according to two sources familiar with the investigation.
OK. What did they find? Or is the answer to that question (maybe even the question itself!) "fake news"?
targetting the Trump campaign too?
Y'know the stuff that was played out here on slashdot as well? Or are we only running this as a propaganda campaign that anything and everything attacking Trump was true but everything attacking Hillary was Russian fake news?
Exactly which points of disinformation were being spread that are provably false? (No, obvious lunacy like being a satanic blood drinking whatever don't count.)
What makes them say it was a campaign of influence rather than clickbait for ads?
...many aimed at spreading negative false claims about Hillary Clinton.
Trump and Clinton were arguably the two most hated presidential candidates to run in US presidential election history. They didn't need the "help" of fake news to have material on which to attack each other as there was no shortage of negative true information about them.
The key difference was that every little thing Trump did was held up by the media (and the Republican establishment) as a harbinger of the end of modern civilization if Trump were to get elected.
On the other hand, every thing that Hillary did (and there was lots: evading federal records laws, flipping on "don't ask don't tell", flipping on gay marriage, colluding with the DNC on debate prep, colluding with the DNC on subverting Sanders' campaign, the highly questionable financial arrangements of the Clinton foundation, etc.) was largely treated as non-news by the same media.
So, in summary, there was absolutely no shortage of negative news on Clinton, it was just getting ignored by the news media.
Another wonderful use for scrapebox. Or did that end with the panda update...
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CNN is talking about fake news again.
oh the irony!
"His name was James Damore."
As consumers of news, how can we be sure that this news story isn't an example of "fake news"?
The article says
The FBI declined to comment for this story.
And it repeatedly includes stuff like
Sources say
and
according to multiple sources
and
according to two sources
and (once again!)
according to multiple sources
The lack of concrete details and information leaves me very uneasy. It makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to independently verify what is being claimed.
Should I play it safe and assume that this article may just be "fake news" until proven otherwise?
CNN and the DNC have been claiming that Russia was responsible for John Podesta's falling for a phishing scam, which gave hackers access to his account which contained information that lead to further DNC hacks. How can the Russians be responsible for the foolishness of a single American? It's time for real facts, not the ongoing BS, which is repeated enough that it becomes circular and self sustaining.
Why is this garbage on Slashdot?
-- j0uSt
`Russia` is a distraction.
The real evils are not even indicted.
Where is Hillary? Loretta? Dick? Herbert? George? The list goes on!
If they're less bad than we know they will not be jailed.
The real problems are way closer to home.
The real problems get no policy.
And the empire declines even further.
At some point the arabs will stop using JUST dollars for oil.
At some point the many, MANY military bases around the world will have to be evacuated.
Those are the signs that the rest of the world recognises the TRUE situation.
Why else is the goldprice so manipulated? To make the dollar look good.
Same for the inflation, jobless claims, etc.
I still read it for the tech stuff, but the obvious shilling for globalist with well selected climate change propaganda and continuing the completely proven as bullshit Russian narrative is not only spreading fake news, it's not even technology fake news.
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That sums up this whole witch hunt.
5 out of 6 people enjoy Russian Roulette & 6 out of 7 Dwarfs are not Happy
"Hey, guys, calm the hell down and look for actual proof. Jumping into WW3 would be a bad thing, and doubly so if it's not even for a good reason."
"OMG YOU PUTIN LOVER!!!!"
Nobody believes any of this shit and nobody watches CNN. Why post anything they have to say here? No matter how much you hope and pray and will for it to be different, Trump won, you lost fuck off.
#MAGA
This post is cancer. CNN is cancer. Was Russia behind Hillary's transmission of classified emails on her personal server? This is a mere distraction from the fact that Democrats are the sorest losers in history.
So, in summary, there was absolutely no shortage of negative news on Clinton, it was just getting ignored by the news media.
I see...so, it was ignored by the news media and you found out about all of that how again? Space aliens beaming the information directly into your brain? You have a tap on the NSA via the CIA via the Vatican?
You need to stop being the battered spouse here Democrats. Hillary Clinton was an awful candidate and didn't need any help from the Russians to get there. It was a tepid campaign at best that only related to her most devoted fans on both coasts ignoring almost everyone else.
In the 2020 primary please get a candidate who can actually relate to normal human beings, can empathize with them, and isn't a tool for Wall Street banks and corporations funding the campaign.
Otherwise, prepare for plenty more of this daily garbage from Teflon Don and his crew. You know how to win - think 2008 and you'll get the picture.
What you're describing really boils down to average Americans in general getting sick and tired of the leftism that has been forced on them recently, especially over the last decade or so.
These average Americans are tired of the hypocrisy and contradiction that leftists continually exhibit.
Average Americans are tired of seeing huge numbers of illegal aliens flow over America's borders uninhibited, and they're especially tired of the economic distortions these illegal aliens bring. Average Americans are tired of the crime these illegal aliens commit, beyond their original crime of entering the USA illegally. Average Americans are disgusted by how leftists think all of this is acceptable, if not to be encouraged.
Average Americans are tired of constantly hearing about transsexuals from the media and from leftists, despite transsexuals making up far less than 1% of the population.
Average Americans are tired of being mislabeled as some kind of "-ist" or "-phobic" by leftists just because they don't want to constantly parrot the tenets of leftist ideologies.
Average Americans are tired of seeing armed and violent criminals portrayed as "innocent" by leftists when these criminals physically attack police officers, and the police need to respond with reasonable deadly force in self defense.
Average Americans are tired of seeing classic movies being remade by leftists just so that the cast can be more "inclusive" or "diverse", even when doing so makes absolutely no sense given the story being told. It isn't just limited to movies, as well. Many other aspects of American culture and history are being revised by leftists.
Average Americans are tired of being told by leftists that these average Americans need to be more "inclusive" and "tolerant", yet leftists rabidly attack anyone who doesn't agree with leftist ideology.
Average Americans are tired of the censorship they fall victim to on various social media sites, perpetrated by leftists.
Average Americans are tired of seeing academia become less about real education and real research, and more about leftist indoctrination. Average Americans are tired of seeing the STEM subjects and the classics forced to becoming a tier below questionable leftist subjects like "Women's Studies", "Indigenous Studies", and "Sociology".
Average Americans are tired of being threatened with carbon taxes or other environmentalism-driven restrictions by leftist "environmentalists" who generate massive amounts of greenhouse gases by living in large mansions, driving SUVs, and flying their private jets around the world to give speeches about how generating greenhouse gas emissions is bad!
Average Americans are tired of the crocodile tears so often exhibited by leftists. Today's "cause" is forgotten by tomorrow afternoon. Sometimes tomorrow afternoon's cause actually contradicts with today's cause!
All of this hypocrisy, contradiction and outright disrespect results in these average Americans voting for the political right. This is happening at the local level. This is happening at the state level. This is happening at the federal level. There is a widespread rejection of leftism by a huge portion of the American population.
And instead of recognizing that leftism is being rejected because it's so ideologically hypocritical and toxic to most average Americans, we see the leftists going on and on about "Russians". It's absurd.
WHEN DID THIS FUCKING START??
I'm still getting my $5 million from Nigeria, right?
Let me fix that for you:
"Hey, guys, let's not pretend that there aren't legitimate concerns that Putin is an oppressive dictator and realize that there are significant questions as to the potential interference in an election. Such issues compromise our relationship and our trust of our own president."
"You monster! You just want to push the big red button and start WW3!"
You clearly don't realize it, but the childish insults about "LOLOLCOVFEFE!!" only make you look like petty idiots, so there's no reason for us to do anything but laugh at you.
OTOH implicitly accusing someone of treason over and over and over and fucking over based on "Russia may or may not have posted mean things about Hillary on twitter!" manufactured hysteria or "Someone who knows someone who knows Trump talked to someone who knows someone who knows Putin in 1994!" conspiracy mongering needs to be rebutted, even if it is still every bit as sad.
Put it this way, if half the mainstream media in 2010 was suddenly replaced by a small army of Glenn Becks, would you have been content to say nothing?
t. Russian Bot.
So what you are saying is that they found CNN offices in Russia?
I see the woodwork still leaks...
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
"CNN has learned"
No. I am not Russian. I am not FSB agent. If I were I would have to tell you.
As evident by how trump lifted all of the russian sanctions and refrained from involving america in attacking Assad...Oh wait, what timeline is this again?
Slashdot has(d) tech minded individuals who don't buy the russian narrative simply based on the lack of evidence/details on how the 17 (now 3) intel agencies concluded russias involvement in the DNC release.
None of the agencies were able to investigate the DNC equipment which is critical in reaching any conclusion as to who is responsible for the breach or even if it was a remote attack.
Nobody who knows anything about exploits or malware believed in the russia finger prints since exploits developed in russia can easily be purchased by public or private groups from any country. NSA has the ability to trace basic proxy and VPN use but no reports have surfaced so there is nothing to disprove the DNC was attacked from say an american using a russian VPN.
Lets not forget Vault 7 outlining CIA tools which exploit the misconception that malware 'fingerprints' are evidence of sources of an attack.
the "trumpbot" ad homonym is quick and easy to use but really fails to counter the above arguments.
I'm a politician. I am an elected member of the State Level Executive Committee of the Texas Libertarian Party. I don't come to Slashdot for politics.
I absolutely hate all the fake news about Donald Trump.
Trump isn't a Libertarian - he's far from supporting my views, but I find myself defending and supporting him constantly. Why? BECAUSE OF ALL THE FAKE CRAP ATTACKING HIM.
I'm a crusader against bullshit. I really, really disliked Obama, but there were occasions when rumors circulated on the right about him that weren't true. I defended him in those instances. With Trump it's nearly a full time job.
The whole Russian thing is completely made up. There is some justifiable Russian narrative, but only when applied to the Hilary camp and uranium dealings - which the news isn't talking about. The Don Jr. thing was a frame job where nothing really happened. Yes he met with that lawyer who was here without a visa because she was let in specifically for this purpose, but they're not exploring that publicly. Every president in my lifetime has talked to Russian/Soviet leaders. I can remember as far back as Reagan doing it - I was born during the Carter administration.
I am personally against a wall and am for open borders with a catch - we have to shut off our freebie system first. Fine you can come here, but the rest of us aren't going to support you. Donald Trump is pro imminent domain, I'm very much against that. He hasn't pulled our troops out of foreign conflicts yet, I have a problem with that. The Donald is not my man, please quit making me defend him. By attacking him with bullshit constantly you're drowning out legitimate criticism that needs to be addressed. Notice nobody talks about the imminent domain stuff or the troops where they don't belong part because of Russia, Russia, Russia!
Russia isn't even our enemy! Once the Soviet Union broke up they've been sort of neutral and someone we've done some dealings with. They're like that guy we've worked with on a couple of projects but he doesn't come to our house for Thanksgiving or anything.
There needs to be a collective head-ass removal in this nation where reality is concerned.
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By vilifying every single Republican during the primaries, the media propped up Trump because they figured there was no way Hillary could lose to him. In doing so they gave the "anybody-but-Hillary" people practically no choice but to vote for Trump. The media made him and now they get to live with their creation.
And please don't forget that this whole thing revolves around proving russia attacked the democrats by exposing DNC corruption. The DNC is responsible for their demise, and for Trump, all wikileaks did was expose their corruption to the public.
Both Clinton and the DNC are even less popular than Trump.
>Putin is an oppressive dictator
Sure. But pretending it's still the cold war or blaming him for literally everything bad that happens in the world or relentlessly isolating him internationally isn't helping anything. Also if you rounded up every head of state in the world and ranked them by terribleness I doubt Putin makes the top quartile.
>Such issues compromise our relationship and our trust of our own president.
How does Russia posting shit on facebook compromise Trump in any way? It's like you idiots JUST found out that there are other countries in the world and that they also have access to the internet. You have no intention of EVER trusting or liking or even tolerating Trump, but you're still desperately looking for an adequate reason to justify your hatred.
It's been nothing but evidence-free conspiracy theories since day one and the best you've come up with is "Trump Jr. got baited into talking to some random Russian lady for 20 minutes once over a year ago, which if you squint hard enough and hire the right lawyers might almost be a violation of campaign finance rules".
It's like Glenn Beck and the birth certificate truthers all over again. Though to be fair republicans have killed it electorally at all levels since Glenn Beck showed up, so maybe the fact is that insane conspiracy mongering is simply a winning political strategy in the 21st century.
Clinton isn't running for president now, and there won't be a Democratic candidate for another three years. Pretty piss poor attempt at deflection
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
I'm not American so maybe I've missed something despite my best attempts at following the events in the US closely but I am under the impression that there are several investigations underway into the Russia thing. So how come it's possible for people to claim anything to be proven, one way or the other, when the guys looking into it (Muller, the senate committee, etc) have not come out with anything yet as they're still gathering data?
I've always considered /. to be a place of (mostly) rational, science-oriented people who understand the importance and value of due process and following the evidence, but yet people from both the left and the right alike are proclaiming that they know the end result of the investigation(s) before it's even remotely completed. What the fuck is up with this shit?
The presence of this kind of rhetoric to me is worrisome because it reeks of 3rd world pseudo-Orwellian BS. People in their own little bubbles with insane amounts of confirmation bias absorbing blog posts masquerading as news and becoming convinced that they know the truth ahead of time, so that when the investigation(s) finally conclude, no matter the result, half of the people will be up and arms and shouting 'Conspiracy, conspiracy, I know the result is false, I read so at [insert news/blog outlet of choice] several months ago, clearly the establishment/'deep state' is [out to frame the innocent president/corrupt and in the back pocket of a corrupt president and lying to protect him]".
Democratic systems require an informed voter base to function. Once that is gone, once the public can be spoon fed tailor made propaganda and manipulated with relative ease into believing nearly anything without hard evidence, then the entire concept of accountability goes out the window, and truth stops mattering, by which point you might just as well elect a king and be done with it.
-1984
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous" -Alfred North Whitehead
Having the FBI track fake news seems a bit like overkill to me. Is fake news the new super weapon? It's only a matter of time before the FBI starts tracking all of us for the things we write?
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I don't get it: why does anyone care. Foreign government has an opinion, published propaganda pieces supporting it. Opinion happens to be about another government's elections.
Tell me the US government doesn't do this. Tell me just about any country on earth doesn't do this. This isn't news, it isn't even interesting. It's just the continuing progressive drumbeat, as they try to not let their "fake news" Russia stories die.
tl;dr: Hillary didn't need any help losing the election.
Also: For anyone who hasn't figured out why Trump won, and why those of us from flyover country have decided to stop humoring the progressives, read this rant. If you're from flyover country, you will nod knowingly. If you're not, maybe it will give you some insight into the foundations of the alt-right.
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
The Clinton Defense:
1) You're innocent if you didn't intend to break the law.
2) You're innocent if the guy who gave the evidence to the cops is a baddie.
3) You're innocent if you're not/no longer a politician or public figure.
How did political biased news get on slashdot. This is a complete waste. I'm so sick of reading this type of news and it infiltrated the technology news source I use. Whoever submitted this pulled a biased news source of CNN for an anti Trump article. What a great job publishing an article. The posts are getting worse. There was an article just the other day about a billboard hacked that was just a conspiracy and it seemed the writer of the summary didn't even read the article as the edit time of the article was prior to the publishing time of the slashdot story and it listed as it was just an ad campaign if you continued reading. These articles should be flagged or removed.
Nope, just corrupt and unrepresentative.
Political parties have a right to set their own standards. But both parties have a flawed primary system, and so does the presidential election itself. Not to mention the various legislative seats, which are grossly imbalanced.
I'm coming to the realization that the Democrats are actually corrupt(*).
I was reading about the DOJ slush fund(**) and it struck me just how deep and insidious the corruption has been in this country.
This is paired with the IRS selecting conservative charities for intense scrutiny, 11 California counties have more registered voters than adults, all the leaks and outright disobeying of executive orders from the WH.
And let us not forget after the election, leftists pleaded with the EC delegates to be faithless, then pleaded with the supreme court to invalidate the results, then pleaded with the U.S. military to step in and prevent the inauguration (wtf?), leaked secret and sensitive information - not to expose crimes, but for political slander, and rioted for weeks. They thought all this was OK, if it somehow got them to their goals. For example, Hillary made no statements condemning the riots, and most of the left blamed the rioting on Trump.
All this *in addition* to the Sanders thing, and getting special treatment in the press and for the debates, blocking reasonable voter registration, and suppressing the military vote.
There's a sub-conversation on the net that holds that the Democratic party *won't survive* once all the corruption has been rooted out. The Democratic ideals are so far from what people want that they require all the extra boost they get from a tilted playing field.
I'm not sure I believe that bit about the Democratic party not surviving, but after reading about the DOJ thing, and knowing the level of effort we're putting into the Russia probe while ignoring some seemingly obvious evidence on the Democratic side, it makes me wonder...
(*) Whether the Republicans are also corrupt, or have a different level of corruption, is still an open question.
(**) DOJ plea-bargains where the offending company pays its fine to charity, but the DOJ only chooses charities that promote left-wing causes.
Will you fuckoff with this fake shit already.
In the land of politics trump is an angelic boyscout with the halo even.
Any crime you want to 'investigate' i have 5 recent examples of the democrats doing the same thing and it being ignored.
So just fuck the hell off already. You're annoying.
Here I sit without mod points. Thank you for posting this.
Trump isn't a Libertarian - he's far from supporting my views, but I find myself defending and supporting him constantly. Why? BECAUSE OF ALL THE FAKE CRAP ATTACKING HIM.
That's not a reason to support Trump. It's a reason to support the truth. You're not inherently defending Trump by attacking fake news.
On the other hand...
The whole Russian thing is completely made up.
That's a stupid thing to say, and you are a stupid person for saying it. Trump and his relatives and his cabinet have lied at every turn about their various ties to and meetings with Russia, and not by accident, either. They couldn't have been accidents. If they have nothing to hide, why are they lying so much?
Russia isn't even our enemy!
Russia is not our enemy on paper, which is why what Trump has done is not treason. You have to be aiding the enemy, and Russia is (on paper) our ally. We are the left and right fists of the UNSC. But Russia is not our friend. Russia is a competitor.
They're like that guy we've worked with on a couple of projects but he doesn't come to our house for Thanksgiving or anything.
And he's got a penchant for poisoning people who disagree with him, and he's fond of spreading a lot of rhetoric about what assholes we are. You wouldn't actually invite him to dinner, at least, not if your kids were going to be home. And you'd lock up your valuables.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
(*) Whether the Republicans are also corrupt, or have a different level of corruption, is still an open question.
Whether the Republicans are also corrupt is only a question an idiot would have to ask at this point. If they have a different level of corruption, it is not apparently significantly different, so that question is not already answered, merely irrelevant.
Your first response is to name calling.
It's interesting, because I've always held that the Republicans were cold, selfish Scrooge-like people who don't care about others.
Coming through the election, I've just now realized how poorly based that opinion is. When I mentally gauge the amount of hate and loathing from the left to come up with a "compensation" metric, and if I apply this metric to some of the widely-held beliefs that I've been told over the years, many of them evaporate.
Republicans are more charitable than Democrats, for instance.
Apply your own metric to well-known memes about the Republican party, and what do you come up with?
And then look up some actual statistics. You may be surprised at the results.
I'm mostly ignorant about who or what Assad is.. Why should the US be attacking it? The US should refrain from attacking more things. I'd probably support the president on this one, I don't know why you would not.
I remember election night. I knew who was going to win, but I turned on the computer, poured myself a drink, opened the political sites, turned on news radio, and waited for the fait accompli bloodbath to commence. Everyone knew who was going to win. Because we'd been told in poll after poll after poll.
Similarly with Brexit. We knew it was going to fail, because poll after poll after poll said so.
Very suspicious. That's the real fake news.
If the Russia story is made up, why did Flynn lie? And why did Sessions lie? And why did Trump Jr. lie? And why did Jared lie? All about meeting with Russians?
You'd think if it was such a fake story that they wouldn't keep lying about it. They'd just tell the truth.
More fake news from the fake news media.
US fake news is not a result of solely government action. It's primarily a result of heavily biased private media. The US government does not have an official news organ (PBS is, to some degree). US fake news is primarily a result of private media and business interests aligning with a political party, which are wholly private organizations (which many people often forget and the illusion of being public entities is pushed heavily by the parties).
Other country's fake news comes straight from the government, as a result of their governments having official and unofficial news organs.
I think the net result is the same: a successfully misinformed population.
CNN has long been debunked as fake news so no more really needs to be said here.
As for FBI, these are the idiots who were told that a Chechen terrorist was plotting something and FBI still sat on their asses. Sure enough, we later got the Boston Bombers.
Both entities are not credible, are incompetent, and not worthy of any consideration.
>Putin is an oppressive dictator
Sure.
Amazed that you admit it. Then you may want to notice all the effusive praise for him. Or even the blithe dismissals.
But pretending it's still the cold war or blaming him for literally everything bad that happens in the world or relentlessly isolating him internationally isn't helping anything.
You're right in the first, that's why we don't need to do what so many suggest. Including a certain president, who seems to think we're in a Cold War situation with North Korea, or possibly Australia. The second is just useless handwringing used to ignore and dismiss actual complaints. But isolating him IS far more useful than embracing him as a buddy and ignoring his malfeasance.
Also if you rounded up every head of state in the world and ranked them by terribleness I doubt Putin makes the top quartile.
Oh, so he isn't that bad? And we care? Is it because he crosses the General Mendoza line?
Fuck that, and fuck the devotion to Putin and his like.
>Such issues compromise our relationship and our trust of our own president.
How does Russia posting shit on facebook compromise Trump in any way?
Well, it wouldn't, if he didn't want to be friendly with Russia.
You think it doesn't hurt Trump when people see him praising Putin as his besterest bud, and then you see the general conduct of his presidency? Ok, maybe not with his devoted base, but other people, see that, and get skeptical.
Is this so hard to grasp?
It's like you idiots JUST found out that there are other countries in the world and that they also have access to the internet.
Hmm? You think this is new NEWS? You're the one who doesn't seem to understand the problem is long-recognized.
That's why most Presidents realize that they need to watch out for appearances. Except Trump.
You have no intention of EVER trusting or liking or even tolerating Trump, but you're still desperately looking for an adequate reason to justify your hatred.
Why would I pretend to ever trust or like or tolerate Trump, when he's desperately doing everything he possibly could to justify the complete opposite action on my part? And this isn't new, he's been like that enough to be a joke for decades.
Even his actions on Russia are not good, but be honest, has Trump not claimed a landslide election, not tried to force through a bad healthcare plan, not imposed a draconian executive order, not supported a bunch of other things that really should raise your eyebrows? Even his "university" was a crock, and so much else. Yet you ignore all of that.
Maybe it's not me who needs to give Trump a chance, maybe it's Trump who needs to give me a reason to even think otherwise. You do realize that, don't you? He's the one rolling in the mud, and I find your attempts at reversing the grip to be laughable.
It's been nothing but evidence-free conspiracy theories since day one and the best you've come up with is "Trump Jr. got baited into talking to some random Russian lady for 20 minutes once over a year ago, which if you squint hard enough and hire the right lawyers might almost be a violation of campaign finance rules".
It's like Glenn Beck and the birth certificate truthers all over again.
You mean Donald Trump, the birther in chief? Yeah, that's another strike against him. Did you think people had forgotten about that? Interesting that you bring up the subject without mentioning that albatross around his neck.
Though to be fair republicans have killed it electorally at all levels since Glenn Beck showed up, so maybe the fact is that insane conspiracy mongering is simply a winning political strategy in the 21st century.
Not really, a
"spreading negative false claims about Hillary Clinton" So many lies about the saint Hillary!
The mod you were looking for is "flamebait". When I give my actual opinion, that is not trolling, and if you think it was, you do not know what trolling is.
This comment is "offtopic", not a troll or flamebait. HTH, HAND!
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Because that's when right wing trolls flood the comments section of such stories with their drek and moderate all other posts into oblivion.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming!
They're promoting Linux and reading slashdot! Gather your mod points and take up a defensive position, don't let any of their comments break through!
Seeing how most of America is either Democrat or Republican, which really hate each other right now, the 'Average American' must be a paranoid schizophrenic who has trouble understanding reality and hates just about everyone, including themselves.
Come to think of it, this Average American probably does think Trump is the best president ever right now, but will call him the worst president ever once his term is up.
-AC
When the correct answer is "a 100% chance", but you give "a 25% chance" as your answer, then you're just as wrong as the person who answered "a 5% chance" or "a 0% chance".
City-Think is a dangerous thing.
Coastal-Think is a more dangerous thing.
Fly-over-Think is going to save this country.
I can see where others might have a different view. Our lives are very different, so our experiences have been very different. I don't trust the federal govt. I don't trust state govts either - having lived in 9 different states, this mistrust isn't without reason.
It seems a fair question: the US has a long history of interference in the democratic processes and/or governments of literally DOZENS of other countries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change). So why are people so upset if a foreign power plays that game on their own soil?
Why'd Obama steal billions from Freddie & Fannie which was illegal for him to do in order to underwrite HIS failed "obamacare"?
If you had anything real you'd be impeaching President Trump immediately. You've got jack shit and you know it. We do. Otherwise you'd be on impeaching him like white on rice motherfucker.
Is Trump's twitter (and the various gov. departmental and individual twitter) feed(s) not considered an official news organ yet?
The "thing" with Don Jr may have been a set up, but in exactly the same way that a dude hoping to buy detonators over the internet is set up when his contact turns out to be an undercover FBI agent. Not guilty - it's a set up, your honor.
Five? Six? How were they tracking? Real-time? Or is this two guys in a basement looking over old web logs 4 months later?
All this could mean is that 3 agents in the DC office were surfing for porn on elections' night.
We're always presented with news/information claiming the government/FBI/NSA/CIA are all-knowing and all-seeing but they never put any evidence of that forth. If the US government had all the data claimed, organized crime would be (or _should_ be, at least) nonexistent. But the crooks are doing as well as ever. It's as if no surveillance exists at all! And possibly that is indeed the truth: government surveillance is an unachieved myth. Unfortunately we cannot proceed under that assumption.
We know that abuse is already rampant and uncontrolled:
- Local police/FBI/NSA monitor cellphones
- NSA Routinely Monitors Americans’ Communications Without Warrants:
https://theintercept.com/2017/03/13/rand-paul-is-right-nsa-routinely-monitors-americans-communications-without-warrants/
a) Obama unmasked thousands of Republican supporters:
Or another alternative: those who have access to government surveillance are so busy using it to forward their own personal agenda (e.g., make a couple million $$ and retire early, screw the new pretty girl down in accounting (what is on her FaceBook page?, now), shaft their ex-wife's husband, etc.) instead of simply doing the right thing!
C'mon, c'mon, you're given a super surveillance system and what's the first thing you wanna do? Look up your friends and your enemies.
I've read your posts on this story. You post nothing but insults and you're not in any position to talk here. It's very telling that you don't have any facts to fall back on. You're reduced to citing "news" that can't even meet Wikipedia's standards for sources. The top story on on the reddit "news" subs the other day was someone calling Trump a nincompoop and you already tried claiming anonymous, unverifiable sources said he wet the bed.
This is toddler-level stuff.
I don't come to Slashdot for politics.
Tell us another story.
I absolutely hate all the fake news about Donald Trump.
Including the same fake news from Donald Trump? Often about himself.
Trump isn't a Libertarian - he's far from supporting my views, but I find myself defending and supporting him constantly. Why?
You're inclined to foolish and misguided actions?
BECAUSE OF ALL THE FAKE CRAP ATTACKING HIM.
No, that s how you justify yourself.
I'm a crusader against bullshit.
Funny thing about the crusaders, they ended up hurting lots of Christians.
I really, really disliked Obama, but there were occasions when rumors circulated on the right about him that weren't true. I defended him in those instances. With Trump it's nearly a full time job.
Yes, Trump did supply a near constant stream of false tweets about Obama. That is why he is known as the birther-in-chief.
The whole Russian thing is completely made up. There is some justifiable Russian narrative, but only when applied to the Hilary camp and uranium dealings - which the news isn't talking about.
You mean the made-up hysteria from Trump himself? Where you mysteriously don't call him out on his bullshit about the uranium going to Russia?
The Don Jr. thing was a frame job where nothing really happened. Yes he met with that lawyer who was here without a visa because she was let in specifically for this purpose, but they're not exploring that publicly.
Jr. Already admitted why he met with her.
Every president in my lifetime has talked to Russian/Soviet leaders. I can remember as far back as Reagan doing it - I was born during the Carter administration.
Name one who met with foreign agents to sabotage a political rival. Oh wait, it was the same one you already named. Huh.
I am personally against a wall and am for open borders with a catch - we have to shut off our freebie system first. Fine you can come here, but the rest of us aren't going to support you.
Why not? Do we not exist to support one another? Is not the purpose of government to support the people? Why choose some as more fit than him?
Trump is pro imminent domain, I'm very much against that. He hasn't pulled our troops out of foreign conflicts yet, I have a problem with that. The Donald is not my man, please quit making me defend him.
Nobody is making you defend him, respect your own free choice.
By attacking him with bullshit constantly you're drowning out legitimate criticism that needs to be addressed. Notice nobody talks about the imminent domain stuff or the troops where they don't belong part because of Russia, Russia, Russia!
By constantly seeking out reasons to defend Donald Trump, you are choking off your own potential criticism of him. Not that you are right about the Russia business, but really, you only have yourself to blame.
Russia isn't even our enemy! Once the Soviet Union broke up they've been sort of neutral and someone we've done some dealings with. They're like that guy we've worked with on a couple of projects but he doesn't come to our house for Thanksgiving or anything
We were dealing with Russia when they were still the Soviet Union. frankly, many of their leaders were better than the corrupt oligarch that is Putin. That he is a brutal and oppressive dictator is a problem. Yet Trump praises him?
There needs to be a collective head-ass removal in this nation where reality is
.
You first
What if they just legalized a gigantic Denial of Service at all the Political party offices and election offices on Election Day.. 24 hours before and after.. so no traffic in or out.. a Timeout for voters to think and have all the ads go silent.
Russia might have to use (cringe) robocalls to get the vote out in America or resort other archane technology.. like horse and buggy whips.
>The whole Russian thing is completely made up.
I liked Slashdot when it wasn't a dumping ground for pro-Russian shills like you.
I don't know what happened exactly. Did a lot of old accounts get hijacked? Did people sell their accounts to trolls? It's hard to imagine the mostly sane populace of Slashdot abruptly turned into Russia-worshipping, American-hating facists like yourself.
The CIA is tasked with counterintelligence. I am not seeing the newsworthiness of the article that I did not read.
It's only a 100% chance once the ballots have been counted. Up until election day (or at least a few days before), Clinton still had the better odds, but she did not enjoy perfect odds. You do understand the nature of probability, right?
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Bullshit detected! Please don protective gear!
Democrats need a few 2020 candidates by at the latest the end of 2018. Mind you, it is not as though there's much out there in democrat- land that even likes the idea of a presidential run. Much the same in republican-land.
Apparently congress is never popular. Presidents can be, but usually it doesn't last.
What she did was unwise but in the end not worth prosecuting.
"Obama, but there were occasions when rumors circulated on the right about him that weren't true"
Holy fucking shit, could you downplay that a little more? Among the things the right claimed was that Obama wasn't an American citizen and was, in fact, a secret Muslim terrorist out to destroy the nation. FFS, the current sitting president was among those demanding to see a birth certificate (but god forbid he should release his tax information!).
So forgive me if I don't think you're being very objective in your assessment.
Hosts files are fake news
I was tempted to stop reading when I saw your links to Breitbart. I wish I had stopped.
You conflate a whole slew of things with the Democrats, using half-truths and falsehoods. Others have done a good job of picking your post apart. I can't be bothered.
Then why's AT&T thinking of selling off CNN under turner after the timewarner merger if they're not fake especially the russia fake narrative? It means CNN is doing badly.
Someday, when Russia really *does* do something, nobody is going to believe the reports about it.
(||) Nehmo (||)
OReilly hosts security -> http://oreilly.com/pub/a/windows/2004/03/30/hosts.html/ & hosts speed -> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/excerpt/winxphacks_chap1/index1.html?page=3/
Aryeh Goretsky/ESET/NOD32: hosts = good security http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=7442373&cid=49747129/
Malwarebytes hpHosts' hosts/RECOMMENDS me!
Oliver Day (SYMANTEC/SECURITYFOCUS) http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/491/ "Host file accessing the Internet - particularly browsing the Web - is actually faster... Spybot Search & Destroy offer lists of known malicious servers to add a layer of defense against trojans & other forms of malware
Steve Gibson endorses hosts https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-045.htm/
Brocke Wilders of WILDERS' SECURITY does inferior clone of MY work http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/hosts-block.378901/
APK
P.S.=> China too http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/boffins_supercharge_the_hosts_file_to_save_users_plagued_by_dns_outages/ - see subject... apk
Trump Jr met with her because of emails saying 'She has dirt from the Russian government to help your fathers campaign'
It doesn't matter if the prostitute is really a whore or is a cop, you still solicited her buddy. And your Libertarian ass would still be in jail for breaking the law.
We have a Rule of Law. Deal with it.
And please don't forget that this whole thing revolves around proving russia attacked the democrats by exposing DNC corruption. The DNC is responsible for their demise, and for Trump, all wikileaks did was expose their corruption to the public.
You're right, and you represent the typical view of /. readers. But if you read the comments on YahooNews, (judging by "like" ratio) less than half agree with you. The general public believes what they are told to believe.
(||) Nehmo (||)
I'm going to continue using the Host File Engine. Your software is well written, functional. The Host File Engine performs exactly as promised by mmell
his hosts program is actually pretty good by xenotransplant
his hosts tool is actually useful for those cases in which one does indeed want to locally block stuff outright while consuming minimum system resources by alexgieg
(APK's) work, I've flat out said it's good by BronsCon
I've tried his hosts file generating software. It works by bmo
APK your posts on this & the hosts file posts, and more, have never been in error &/or bad advice by BlueStrat
Your premise that hostfiles are a good way to deal with advertising & malvertising is quite valid by JazzLad
I like your host file system by Karmashock
* It's recommended/hosted by Malwarebytes' hpHosts!
APK
P.S.=> That's in addition to respected security pros etc. here earlier https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10953959&cid=54948109/ - want more? Ask... apk
He didn't vote for Trump?
Plus-o-which, would the MuhRussians successfully penetrate a network with the possibility of
extracting intimate information from an American administration at will, and then tell Wikileaks
about it? As an exercise, get some high value intel from MuhRussia and give it to Assange. Explain
to them that you are just trying to help the orange boy so he will build a golf course near the Kremlin.
Then measure your shadow the next clear day.
We're all waiting on the Grand Juries, motherfucker.
I'm a politician. I am an elected member of the State Level Executive Committee of the Texas Libertarian Party.
Whoa, so you're elected to a public office in Texas?
Oh wait .... no, you're not.
Till when? Doomsday? Took less time to get Nixon. They actually had evidence there though. Where's yours? It's not!
Since we have 11 million illegals (curious how they keep coming but that number never changes) and it's racist to ask for an ID in an election, and establishment government actors won't audit the voters roles, we definitely don't know that more "Americans" voted for Hillary.
The left establishment seems just as cozy as the right. I wish you had a point there, but you really don't.
Why'd CNN producer John Bonnifield say CNN's "russia" stuff is bs for? & Why'd Van Jones say russia bs is a "big nothing burger" for too then??
* ANSWER THAT!
The CNN fake news "russian narrative" is PROJECTING what their kind in Hillary & crew ACTUALLY did fool!
Tell us about Hillary Clinton & her Uranium One deal w/ Russkies. How about her selling nuke + missile tech to Korea too, ok???
How about Podesta's ties to KGB backed companies he has what, 75K in stock in????
(Drinkypoo - get your head out of your ass man!)
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-line: IF President Trump's opposition actually HAD anything solid, they'd have him in impeachment proceedings - obviously, they have NOTHING & are full of crap on the 'russia narrative' (a mere distraction to keep eyes off the games the ANYTHING BUT "FEDERAL" RESERVE IS PLAYING w/ interest rates raising them to hurt Trump's already good economic recovery on many levels)... apk
The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming
Trump won, move on!
In GOD we trust, all others we monitor.
It's easy to spot Soros funded narrative control, especially on Slashdot when you can just AC instead of creating a bunch of sock-puppets.
The preceding post was not a Slashvertisement.
They have ZERO integrity
Makes sense I guess...
.... got really low.
Every single government uses propaganda against other countries, even friendly countries (BBC publishes sneaky anti French articles on a regular basis)
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
Flynn lied because he was cheating on his taxes by not reporting the income from his overseas jobs.
Sessions didn't lie - the Democrats have been lying about his "secret" meetings with Russians that were actually public events attended by Democrat politicians, too.
Trump Jr. hasn't been caught lying yet. He was tricked into a meeting arranged by a Democrat opposition research firm that was employed by Russia that also produced a very famous anti-Trump fake dossier. When the meeting turned out to be BS, he left.
In other words, there are plenty of lies - and you are spreading them. You have nothing but vague hints and suggestions of impropriety, but you can't actually point to a crime much less a criminal.
You're wrong. The Russians are already here. And the guy in the White House is laundering money for them.
I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
...the source. CNN - home of the "nothing burger". Really Slashdot? I mean seriously?
Never implied otherwise. You're just attempting to discredit everything I say based on a perception you're attempting to weave based on a stretched implication. Was your reply funded or a genuine AC?
The preceding post was not a Slashvertisement.
Every part of this is full of weasle words, like 'suspected' and 'may'.
Someone actually quoted CNN seriously! I love irony :)
#CNNFakeNewsFactory
Captcha: comply
Fuck off you useless mound of blubber, get out of moms basement for once.
The alt right has been gunning for the Clintons ever since they got all riled up with Bill's sexual peccadillos as if THAT had never happened with a politician before! These agents specialize in media hatchet jobs: it's called dirty tricks and almost all political animals engage in it.
As for Hillary, those hacks played a masterful game of hyping up the non-story of Benghazi, when it was the Republican majority that CUT THE SPENDING that would have paid for those reinforcements, not that anything less than a full garrison of troops would have made a difference. That was all done to put obstacles in the path of anything the Obama administration did, for the avowed reason of preventing his reelection. They were being vindictive merely to attempt to gain power back.
All political games. All NOT in the interests of the US people, who continue to suffer the idiocies of the wholesale pimping of the Constitution of the US for the gain of the already wealthy, at the cost of the middle class and the working poor. They have been the big losers in this hypocritical exercise in cynicism and deceit.
The bad guys are winning because they have succeeded in dumbing-down public education and destroying the independence of the news media through corporate buyouts and by making the FCC into a toothless lapdog.
Not to mention packing the SCOTUS with corporate pimps who systematically rule against the democratic principles of one person/one vote, allowing money to be conflated with votes and speech.
You were asked a question, answer it - afraid to, "Forrest"? Yes... "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" = YOU unidentifiable ac troll!
APK
P.S.=> That blew you away, letting CNN's OWN do it for me, lol... apk
See subject: I own my own home for a decade now + am 6' 2" & 190lbs. (almost perfect) so quit projecting!
You're also talking to a former lettering 1st string athlete for a national power in the sport of Lacrosse (1985 letter K) http://lemoynedolphins.com/sports/2014/5/29/MLAX_0529144330.aspx/
* You know - a thing that the "likes of you" (a 'special snowflake') will NEVER ever do...
APK
P.S.=> I love projectionists like you, lol - you're easy to BLOW AWAY... apk
The list I produced is fact from sources FAR MORE REPUTABLE than an UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous TROLL worm like you!
APK
P.S.=> Truer words were NEVER spoken on /. ... apk
Sure. But pretending it's still the cold war or blaming him for literally everything bad that happens in the world or relentlessly isolating him internationally isn't helping anything.
It's not the Cold War anymore? So certain of that, are you?
CNN's own John Bonnifield admitted the "russia narrative" IS PURE BS FAKE NEWS & Van Jones said it's a "big nothing burger".
APK
P.S.=> Love how you douchebags are SO easy to prove wrong using YOUR OWN SOURCES (CNN) & how you "self upmod" for your bullshit too (no way can you defeat what I put out, lol - drinkypoo RAN too - why? YOUR OWN FAKE NEWS SOURCES' PEOPLE PROVE ME RIGHT!)... apk