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Feeling Bad About Feeling Bad Can Make You Feel Worse (berkeley.edu)

An anonymous reader writes: Pressure to feel upbeat can make you feel downbeat, while embracing your darker moods can actually make you feel better in the long run, according to new UC Berkeley research. "We found that people who habitually accept their negative emotions experience fewer negative emotions, which adds up to better psychological health," said study senior author Iris Mauss, an associate professor of psychology at UC Berkeley. At this point, researchers can only speculate on why accepting your joyless emotions can defuse them, like dark clouds passing swiftly in front of the sun and out of sight. "Maybe if you have an accepting attitude toward negative emotions, you're not giving them as much attention," Mauss said. "And perhaps, if you're constantly judging your emotions, the negativity can pile up."

102 comments

  1. Metafeelings by Moblaster · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is why I suck at competitive Starcraft. No meta-game. But at least have a scientifically-validated excuse to tell wifey next time I disappoint her by not feeling disappointed about disappointing her, "hey! I got no meta-feelings!"

    1. Re:Metafeelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear you like feeling bad so much that I put feeling bad in your feeling bad

    2. Re: Metafeelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thos is like; admitting that your cooking sucks makes it taste better

    3. Re:Metafeelings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...next time I disappoint her by not feeling disappointed about disappointing her...

      One of the fundamental tenets of modern psychology is that all feelings and wishes are acceptable but not all actions are acceptable. :)

      It's acceptable for you to feel differently (disappointment, lack of disappointment, etc) from your wife - Theory of Mind, and all that. But there might also be value in talking with each other about your narratives and values to understand each other better in those areas where you don't feel the same.

  2. You all know my answer... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I find it easier to be upbeat in the face of negativity while pissing of my trolls at the same time.

    1. Re:You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who are you?

    2. Re:You all know my answer... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0

      Who are you?

      You must be new around here.

    3. Re:You all know my answer... by 110010001000 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Every story here is about you somehow. I call it narcissism. You have to expect trolls when you talk about yourself constantly.

    4. Re:You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why sociopaths are happy people, including the fat one.

    5. Re:You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With that ID number, you must be as well.

    6. Re:You all know my answer... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 0, Troll

      You have to expect trolls when you talk about yourself constantly.

      I could talk about the weather and a troll would still complain about my fat cock.

    7. Re:You all know my answer... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      With that ID number, you must be as well.

      You must need reading glasses. My user id number has six digits. Newer user id numbers have eight digits.

    8. Re:You all know my answer... by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      What is with all the cremier hate I have been seeing on this site lately? What has he done? Apparently he's a friend of some friend of mine on this site so I'd expect I would be seeing his posts filtered up for me frequently but I have no friggin' clue who he even is, just that I keep seeing posts like this hating on him. What's the deal?

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      -Forrest Cameranesi, Geek of all Trades
      "I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam."
    9. Re:You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, creimer - we'll complain about your fat everything else.

      I know, I know. "hurr. think football player."

      Tell you what - why don't you post a picture of a football player who you think shares a similar physique to you, and let's compare.

    10. Re:You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      1) Repeated, irrelevant personal anecdotes.

      2) Affiliate spam

    11. Re:You all know my answer... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

      What's the deal?

      Successful fat people make Slashdot trolls feel stupid.

      Check out my Slashdot page, "There are 10 types of people on Slashdot...", and my past blog postings.

    12. Re:You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a morbidly obese virgin who lives in a studio at 47. Not really my idea of success. The Amazon money was a surprise to me, but it still worked out to about $3/day, which is about how much money I earn in two or three minutes.

    13. Re:You all know my answer... by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Maybe you need some glasses for yourself? No uid on /. has 8 digits, none.

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      Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
    14. Re:You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who dared modding you off topic? Everybody should know that every comment, every thread, every article on /. is about creimer. Therefore, you are always on topic.

    15. Re: You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Maybe you need some glasses for yourself?"

      Oh, oh, I know a good place where he could get some! Super speedy delivery..

    16. Re: You all know my answer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What's the deal?
      Successful fat people make Slashdot trolls feel stupid.
      Check out my Slashdot page, "There are 10 types of people on Slashdot...", and my past blog postings."

      Okay, I bit. I suppose I'm 1 of the 10 who don't think you're a fat retard.

      But your tits put Dolly Parton to shame...!

    17. Re: You all know my answer... by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Good one AC!

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      Everything I write is lies, read between the lines.
  3. Guilt adds to the burden by Bruce66423 · · Score: 1

    If you should be a happy camper, and you're not and your boss / friends / family are expecting you to be a happy camper, of course you are going to feel worse than if you are allowed to be honest about how you are feeling.

    1. Re:Guilt adds to the burden by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone can feel good about feeling bad. But that seems to be the recommendation based on TFA.
      Insane people feel better?

    2. Re:Guilt adds to the burden by Quirkz · · Score: 2

      If I get dark and cynical enough, it goes from gloomy to deep to absurd to funny, and I end up laughing at myself. I have no idea if it works for anyone else.

      From a mindfulness perspective, sometimes just recognizing what you're really feeling (as opposed to denying or fighting it) might also help it clarify, and then pass.

      And then there's the Slashdot headline, which says the opposite of what the summary says. What's up with that?

    3. Re:Guilt adds to the burden by PPH · · Score: 1

      Not so much feeling good about feeling bad. But accepting that your moods change and sometimes you are going to feel down. It's normal and you'll get over it.

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
    4. Re: Guilt adds to the burden by plate_o_shrimp · · Score: 1

      Not feeling good with feeling bad, but rather accepting that sometimes you will feel bad, it's normal, and it will pass. So rather than feeling good about feeling bad, you're /equanimous/ about feeling bad. The Buddha figured this out 2500 years ago...

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    5. Re:Guilt adds to the burden by Pfhorrest · · Score: 1

      The headline is saying that if you "feel bad about" feeling bad in the sense of rejecting it and fighting it, it can make you feel worse than if you accept it and let it pass, which is also what the summary says.

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      -Forrest Cameranesi, Geek of all Trades
      "I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam."
    6. Re:Guilt adds to the burden by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Yeah, my brain broke down somewhere while trying to translate the triple negative. No other explanation.

  4. Shit... by Nutria · · Score: 1

    this has been obvious for decades. Centuries, even. Keep a stiff upper lip and soldier on instead of emoting.

    Thanks, 1970s, for fucking something else up!

    --
    "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    1. Re:Shit... by gringer · · Score: 1

      this has been obvious for decades. Centuries, even. Keep a stiff upper lip and soldier on instead of emoting.

      This research suggests the opposite. Instead of trying to ignore (or cancel out) the emotions, recovery to a better state is quicker if individuals accept their emotional state.

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      Ask me about repetitive DNA
    2. Re:Shit... by Nutria · · Score: 1

      "I'm sad, I'm angry, on the inside. But I soldier on anyway."

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      "I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
    3. Re:Shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this has been obvious for decades. Centuries, even. Keep a stiff upper lip and soldier on instead of emoting.

      No, the idea is that you accept all your feelings as part of a package that will never be entirely perfect. Let's say you're swimming in a remote wilderness lake with some smoking hot super model. But the water in the lake is uncomfortably cold. Rather than trying to ignore the cold, or acknowledge the cold but wish it was warmer, you accept that the cold is part of the experience.

    4. Re:Shit... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is literally what stiff upper lip means! You're not trying to be a happy camper, you're not denying your emotions good or bad, you're just accepting them for whatever they are and getting on with it.

      The problem, as I see it, is sitting around obsessively over-analysing them: "I should be feeling good, but I feel bad, oh woe is me, I must sit here and process/discuss with my girlfriends for the next hour/day/year." Instead try "I feel bad. That sucks. Oh well, it will probably pass, now what was I doing again?"

  5. About indirection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not about honesty, it's about indirection. You create distance between the negative feeling and yourself if you can say "I wish I didn't feel like that" rather than "I hate myself for feeling that." Also, if you can joke about the problem without feeling like you're berating yourself, you can relieve stress, and stress beyond a certain level becomes a mind-killer.

    1. Re:About indirection by king+neckbeard · · Score: 1

      No, FEAR is the mind killer, not stress.

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    2. Re:About indirection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You create distance between the negative feeling and yourself if you can say "I wish I didn't feel like that" ...

      But wishing you didn't feel like that isn't acceptance either. :) Suppose you're having a picnic with friends and you feel too hot but there isn't an option to move into the shade. The trick is to then accept that feeling too hot is part of the picnic experience - that nothing is ever going to be perfect.

    3. Re:About indirection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's not about honesty, it's about indirection.

      Or maybe it can be about pardon. Pardoning yourself for the negative feelings has a healing power.

    4. Re: About indirection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This reminds me of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox

    5. Re:About indirection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Close. The real answer is: feeling like you're not in control (i.e. the root cause of stress, fear, and depression).

  6. Yeah, this is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It has been common knowledge for sever thousand years. Research something useful.

  7. Feeling Annoyed, Bored, etc. by retroworks · · Score: 1

    Seems par for the course

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    Gently reply
  8. Re: No chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The positive side is that one side won not because they were good at winning, but because their opponent made a blunder.

    That just makes it easier for the opponent in the end. See you in 2020 or sooner, comrade.

  9. feeling worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Feeling worse about feeling worse can make you feel bad

  10. impossible expectations by avandesande · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's why I stay away from FB: It's impossible to be happy all the time... why is this even some kind of goal? Sad or dull moments make the happy ones more poignant.

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    love is just extroverted narcissism
    1. Re:impossible expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's actually so much worse. If someone is happy all the time, all shiny, sunny, perfect, there's something missing from life. We need to ups and downs. It makes us deeper and more real.

      These researchers are discovering "Life 101" (also called Yoga).

      Pretty funny how perplexed they sound at very basic knowledge.

      Captcha: stupid

    2. Re:impossible expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may think it's obvious, but Sunday somebody told me to my face "maybe if you didn't focus on the negative you'd be happier" and everybody around them chimed in with their agreement. Clearly what you call Life 101 is unknown to many. That being said, I complain a lot, but I'm not particularly depressed.

    3. Re:impossible expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty funny how perplexed they sound at very basic knowledge.

      They don't sound that way at all. You're just lying about what they said because you want to think you're smarter than scientists, when in fact you're not even smarter than any of your own pets.

    4. Re:impossible expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... Sad or dull moments make the happy ones more poignant.

      Tell it to people with chronic depression. I would rather feel nothing at all, which I do on occasion. It is a massive relief. Like a fucking holiday.

    5. Re:impossible expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "maybe if you didn't focus on the negative you'd be happier"

      There's a subtle but important difference between accepting the negative and focusing on it. :)

    6. Re:impossible expectations by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's actually why my wife quit Facebook. The constant illusion of everyone's happy happy joy joy fake-faces was feeding her depression. Even though she knew these were carefully crafted illusions, cherry-picking the good bits of everyones boring lives, the effect was still very real.

  11. Recursive Headline FTW by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    Feeling Bad About Feeling Bad About Feeling Bad Can Make You Feel Worse

    1. Re:Recursive Headline FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Feeling worse about feeling worse can drive a man to drink.

  12. He's getting re-elected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're stuck in your urban bubble again. Same way the "Black Lives Matter" protesters in Charlottesville were all white.

    1. Re:He's getting re-elected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah no. -A very rural Sanders socialist.

  13. Headline of the fucking year, folks by blackomegax · · Score: 1

    What would we do without science?!

  14. Vicious cycle by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    Does feeling bad about feeling worse because you're feeling bad about feeling bad also make you feel worse? This sounds like a vicious cycle in a way, so where's the bottom? Is it being goth and trying to embrace beauty in pain or something like that, and if so is the cure worse than the disease?

    1. Re:Vicious cycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's sort of like the pain cycle. You can break it by consuming a form of "aspirin for the personality." Just don't let Sessions catch you in flagrante delicto with your aspirin of choice.

    2. Re:Vicious cycle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Girl you been givin' me that line so many times it kinda gets like
      feelin' bad looks good

  15. Mental cases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should all just be euthanized. Seriously. A drain on humanity, people with defective brains.

    1. Re:Mental cases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're all waiting for you to Livestream your suicide, then.

    2. Re:Mental cases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My mind works fine. You appear depressed...

    3. Re:Mental cases by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this will solve everyone's problems: https://scjdmcdn.azureedge.net... please chug the entire bottle and post it on YouTube.

  16. Aw shucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh great, another thing I am doing wrong. I suck :(.

  17. Yeah, but what about... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    Feeling bad about feeling good? Does that make you feel better?

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    Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
  18. Too Much Cringe by SmaryJerry · · Score: 1

    The Slashdot title alone is cringe because no shit Sherlock. The paper is claiming if someone has gotten over a negative thing then they have less negativity than someone who hasn't. A toddler could tell you more of anything means more of anything, including more negative means more negativity. Also, what the hell is this doing on Slashdot, there is nothing at all technology related.

    1. Re:Too Much Cringe by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      No, it means that, if you're feeling down, just accepting that you're down and keeping going is better than trying to find reasons why you're down. Getting over it is not required.

      As far as applicability, lots of geeks suffer from depression.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  19. Feeling Bad About Feeling Bad... by Freischutz · · Score: 1

    Feeling Bad About Feeling Bad Can Make You Feel Worse

    Am I the only one who read that sentence and let fly a clearly audible: DUUUUUHHHHH!!!! ???

  20. Ric Romero and Capitain Obvious agree by williamyf · · Score: 1

    In a Joint Statement today, the Ric Romero Institute and Capitain Obvious indicated that they agree wholeheartedly with the results from UC Berkley about feeling bad about feeling bad makes you feeling worse.

    The institute will dedicate more funds to research the subject, searching for a Joint study with Berkley, while Capitain Obvious will use his public opinion powers to raise awarenes about the subject, specialy amongst people who suffer from depression (yours truly included), who know nothing abut this strange effect.

    News at eleven...

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  21. Re:I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, the President and VP would be Pence and Ryan. Will you continue to weep at this revelation?

  22. They be singin' the blues by sysrammer · · Score: 1

    There is an entire genre of music devoted to "feeling bad". Western music also has a mode for this kind of thing--it's called the minor key. Country-western has lots of "My Woman Ran Off with my Best Friend's Truck" songs, too. These guys need to get out more.

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    His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
  23. I'm going to ignroe politics... by Jhon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and answer from the heart.

    I've had a lot of personal horror in my life. Here's what I've found works for me:

    I PRETEND to be happy and upbeat when I don't feel that way. And you know what? The act of my smiling and speaking a certain way actually *DOES* improve my overall mood. Hell -- just SMILING changes my mood -- even when there's nothing for me to smile about.

    Just because there's a lot of crap in my life I wouldn't wish upon anyone doesn't mean I need to let it slip in to my interactions with a world that for the most part wouldn't give a rip -- or would care too much an attempt a level of intimacy I don't want from strangers or casual acquaintances or co-workers.

    1. Re:I'm going to ignroe politics... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also helps by improving the mood of people you interact with. Make people you are around happy, and the reverse becomes a bit more true

    2. Re:I'm going to ignroe politics... by Jhon · · Score: 1

      Also helps by improving the mood of people you interact with. Make people you are around happy, and the reverse becomes a bit more true

      You should have posted under your name. Quite insightful.

    3. Re:I'm going to ignroe politics... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Good for you. It doesn't usually work that way for people with real depression.

      Depression is not about any crap that happened to you. It just is. Faking feeling better isn't going to do any good. Faking feeling better to get out and dealing with people or accomplishing something may be worthwhile, but just pretending you're happy does not work.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  24. No shit. by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    Recent findings brought to you by the Captain Obvious Research Institute.

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  25. Re: I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd watch that type of language regarding assassination

  26. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Feeling good about feeling bad makes you like feeling bad and thus makes you feel bad.
    Feeling bad about feeling good makes you avoid feeling good and therefore makes you feel bad.
    Feeling bad about feeling bad is good but you're feeling bad because feeling bad about feeling bad implies you're feeling bad at least once in the chain of events.

  27. Thanks UC Berkeley... by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

    Now I feel bad about feeling bad about feeling bad!

  28. Is the reverse also true? by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    Can feeling good about feeling good make you feel even better?

    Right now I'm feeling better than a Walker County inmate with a brand new jar of peanut butter.
    (google it for the joke)

  29. Isn't this what "Inside Out" was about? by Hussman32 · · Score: 1

    I'm wondering if the study started before or after the movie Inside Out was released. SPOILER: The main child character, Riley, was about to run away, but when her emotions (Joy and Sadness) allowed Sadness to express herself, then she cried and was able to express herself.

    Very good movie, much better than "Herman's Head" was.

    --
    "Who are you?" "No one of consequence." "I must know." "Get used to disappointment."
  30. I am sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go fuck yourself.
    Now I feel better.
    Sharing is caring.
    I enjoy shitting in my pants.
    "Pickle Rick" changed my life.

  31. Re: EXACTAMUNDO & fact about Soros... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, I know it seems like a good idea at the time (and it is kinda fun) but don't post comments after drinking a 5th of distilled alcohol.

  32. Re: I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Government has no right to act against such speech without proof of motive *and* means. To prosecute someone because they reject their leader is a violation of the Constitution and would piss off a lot of otherwise harmless members of the public.

  33. Re:I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    YES! The size of the hands is the most important thing about the POTUS! Bring back race biology... You friggin Nazi....

  34. Re:I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see you've read Atlas Shrugged.

  35. Count your blessings by mfnickster · · Score: 1

    When someone is depressed, don't tell them to count their blessings or focus on the good things. "See? You have so much to be happy about."

    The reaction this elicits is: "You're right. These are all good things... so why am I not happy?"

    --
    "Slow down, Cowboy! It has been 3 years, 7 months and 26 days since you last successfully posted a comment."
  36. Re: I see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "But President Pussy-grabber isn't giving me any choice but to oppose him in any way possible"

    You're right, it's better to support "Presidential Candidate 'My husband sticks cigars in pussies'".

  37. Re: Funny how SOROS is caught again, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you just block "SOROS" with your magic HOSTS file?

  38. Akin by poofmeisterp · · Score: 1

    "Slicing into a cut made by a knife that's bleeding, with a knife, can make the cut bleed more."

    Now, where can I get my multi-million-dollar funding to get a research project done to prove that?

    1. Re:Akin by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      I'll support you. I'd like to see proof of a knife that's bleeding.

      --
      His ignorance covered the whole earth like a blanket, and there was hardly a hole in it anywhere. - Mark Twain
    2. Re: Akin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good catch....

  39. Mindfulness by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

    If you study mindfulness, you learn that resisting negative feelings is like forcing your will against them, but they do exist so you can not just will them away. It's tempting because you don't like the situation, and want to eliminate it, or let it never happen again to us. But adding negativity to negativity is throwing fuel on the fire, resisting reality doesn't make the reality go away.

    Accepting it allows you to move on. Bad things do happen unfortunately. If we can learn to make the best of it, or at least stop feeling worse, then overall we will feel better. It doesn't feel like the thing we want to so at the time, but it will make the next step in our life easier to not make things worse right now.

  40. inside out by thoper · · Score: 1

    DidnÂt yall see the pixar movie "inside out". thats bassically the plot-