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iOS 11 Has a Feature To Temporarily Disable Touch ID (cultofmac.com)
A new feature baked into iOS 11 lets you quickly disable Touch ID, which could come in handy if you're ever in a situation where someone (a cop) might force you to unlock your device. Cult of Mac reports: To temporarily disable Touch ID, you simply press the power button quickly five times. This presents you with the "Emergency SOS" option, which you can swipe to call the emergency services. It also prevents your iPhone from being unlocked without the passcode. Until now, there were other ways to temporarily disable Touch ID, but they weren't quick and simply. You either had to restart your iPhone, let it sit idle for a few days until Touch ID was temporarily disabled by itself, or scan the wrong finger several times. The police, or any government agency, cannot force you to hand over your iPhone's passcode. However, they can force you to unlock your device with your fingerprint. That doesn't work if your fingerprint scanner has been disabled.
Ain't it grand that with the 8, all someone will have to do is shove the phone in your face.
"Baked into" implies it's non-removable and non-optional. "Included with" implies it's optional. The terms are discrete and worth using.
I wasn't aware that the standard well-understood phrase "baked in", that has been around far longer than I have been alive and doesn't come from cooking, is now "cool" and "hipster".
Maybe it's time to stop worrying about hipsters hiding under your bed.
Apple is a faceless corporate ? I'd have thought Apple had, and has, some very famous faces. That extends slightly down the pecking order, not just the top man; example, the UK has honoured and listens to, Jonathan Ive.
He does have a point though, tech world today is full of stupid, needless phrases that are meant to sound nice to investors and shareholders rather than actually describe something accurately.
We could say the mechanism is integrated, built-in, anything really. But no, let's use some appy-app appminology to appscribe apps and appctions a device comes pre-apped with.
Imagine a birthday cake. You might make it with eggs, and sugar, and flour, a bit of oil and such. These ingredients all get BAKED IN and cannot be removed no matter how hard you try, you'll have to make a new cake from scratch to change their presence.
On top of the cake you put some candles. These candles are INCLUDED WITH the cake and can be removed at your leisure. Same with the frosting, you can scrape that off if you're careful, so it's included, not baked in..
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Perhaps it should only be used for talking about hardware. Clearly it would be fitting in that context. You go inform the Internet. I'll wait here.
What if you "forgot" it?
I think the battle is lost as much as I'm on your side.
As for the arguments here that it's a distinction from "included" other terminology is available. If "baked-into" is supposedly mandatory but some exploit is found to remove or bypass it then what does it become?
Perhaps the best way to win this war is just to invite more stupid terminology. Let's not upgrade, let's "level up" our hardware and installation. Let's not have "Pro" as a suffix but "Boss", etc.
No, "baked into" implies the author is an arse.
... if there's a secret button combo that reactivates Touch ID if it's been deactivated in this manner, but a combo that Apple only provides to law enforcement and other Government organizations.
If you're going to add a backdoor why not have one that just unlocks the phone without having to involve its original owner. That is, a backdoor that can be used without creating a witness who now knows about it!
is that unlocking your phone with a password is considered different from using a fingerprint according to the law/police.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
The Russian tourist asks a British cop: Sir, can I? - Cop: Yes, you can!
No, Sir, I mean, may I? No, you may not.
The cops MAY NOT force you to hand over your passcode, but they CAN.
Simple PIN unlock (not just finger print as an easy option, something that works right out of the shower) and long password to unencrypt for booting.
I have android, but the if I want a secure phone (long boot password), my only easy unlock option is the fingerprint, which doesn't work with touch screen gloves, and doesn't work with post shower fingers.
Then, make the five button click reboot rather than disable touch.
Wow, sent an e-mail as suggested when clicking on "use classic" banner, and got a fast response that addressed my msg
You'll be held in contempt until you provide it.
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Officer learns about new feature of iOS 11
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"Integrated" would be a less colloquial term and clearer and more transparent to a diverse audience.
Hiding under the bed is so mainstream. Hipsters hide in your pillowcase.
Baked into is really the older term and shorter to boot so who's being stupid here? There's nothing new to see here and I'm 40 years old. They said baked into about the space shuttle.
I'm not saying it will pass legal muster. Prosecutors use the pain of the process to wear down defendants. You will be vindicated in the end but be out thousands of dollars in attorney's fees and time spent incarcerated.
A lot of comments on the 5th amendment here, buy taking proactive action to prevent access to evidence would likely be seen as obstruction of justice. Basically, if it is reasonable to a judge that knew an investigation was about to happen and you do something like this, it is no different than wiping your hard drive or burning your flash paper. It would be best not to use touch id at all.
Even kids know that.
The cops can also start breaking your fingers one by one until you reveal the passcode. "Yes your honor, he came with his fingers stuck when we closed the door, a stupid accident".
Then you get a free treatment against memory loss. After being hung at your toes upside down for a day you might suddenly remember it.
Muggers might have even less restrictions about forcing the passcode out of you than cops.
I just thought the guy who added it was high at the time, we are about to get "High" Sierra from them. I can't think of how many times the subway "artist" baked my sandwich while totally baked, most recently after I was out in the sun too long and my skin was totally baked.
It's a shame that people assume that people reference the US as if its laws apply everywhere.
Unfortunately, US laws ARE enforced all over the world.
Many of the terms we use in computer technology comes from existing concepts. Just to name a few: application, file, virus, boot, handshake, cache, screen, menu, command, forum.
It doesn't matter that the words have a double meaning. It matters that they effectively communicate intent.
All my liberal friends think I'm a conservative, all my conservative friends think I'm a liberal.
I know this probably sounds difficult to believe, but it's actually true.
Officers have become increasingly frustrated with criminals who refuse to hand over the passwords for their encrypted mobiles, denying them access to vital information.
But the Metropolitan police have come up with a novel solution, by snatching an iPhone from a suspect on the street before he had a chance to lock it.
Officers investigating a credit card racket realised that crucial evidence was stored on the phone of suspect Gabriel Yew, 45, that would be inaccessible without his password.
To get round the problem covert officers from Operation Falcon, the Met police team that investigates major fraud, seized the mobile from Yew's hand as he took a call in the street. They then tapped the screen to prevent it from locking while the evidence was being downloaded.
Yep, I'm even older and can attest that the phrase was very common from before I was born. It used to be electronics jargon, and software adopted it later.
There is some hope for the Fourth and Fifth Amendments!
Not that Apple actually intended this. I would not be surprised if this feature goes away. Soon.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
In the UK you can be compelled to hand over your passcode too.
Not by the police, you cannot. That takes a magistrate's order.
Then you better hope your jurisdiction is one which recognizes the fallibility of human memory.
I know you put it in quotes to indicate lying about forgetting it, but since it cannot be proven that you are lying about forgetting it, it doesn't really matter.
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It seems perfectly in keeping with Apple's business plan--they do seem to care about customer security.
I used an option in Settings to disable the fingerprint scanning on my phone quite some time ago. If the idea is that you set your phone up in advance, that's nothing new. If the idea is that you can quickly do it when being arrested, that's legally risky.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Usually, the high-profile "phone unlocking" cases you hear of lately are terrorism or drug-related. Your average iPhone owner is most likely looking to protect his contact list, evidence of dealings, etc. than planning an attack. I'd say Apple aimed this feature squarely at their core demographic -- affluent Millenials:
- Locking up your phone when high/drunk prevents people from using your fingerprint without your knowledge to get access to the phone
- If you're stopped for a minor offense (traffic stop, DWI, etc.) it could prevent the police from finding anything else to make your situation worse if they are suspicious
- Almost all non-violent interactions with the police involve traffic issues or drugs. If a cop catches you in possession of a small amount of drugs, they may or may not be more willing to just let you go if they have to go through a whole search warrant process, take you in and fill out paperwork to see what's on your phone.
What would be an even more interesting feature is if you held down a certain key sequence (three long, three short, three long sounds good...SOS) and the phone instantly wiped itself by shorting out the flash memory and destroying itself. You wouldn't have your $1000 computer in your pocket anymore, but you'd have to decide if that was worth less than the evidence the police could have obtained.
I guarantee this is going to get challenged in court to sort it out. 200+ years ago, and even in the Miranda era, no one was carrying a device capable of storing every personal detail of their lives in their pocket. The best you'd ever get is a drug dealer's notebook with their contacts. Phones are interesting in that they're extensions of the people who carry them.
Honestly, with the baking of a PCB, I'd be curious as to what other term you'd use. You smear it with solder paste, put components on top of the paste, and put it into a big ass oven at 500 degrees or so for 15 minutes to melt the paste, then put it on a cooling rack so the solder can solidify. If that's not baking, then I don't know what is.
If you are doing reflow soldering at 500 deg. F for 15 minutes, you're going to be pulling out a charred, useless, potato-chip-looking specimen, unless most of that time was spent doing pre-heat and cooling profiles.
When we did prototype reflow in a toaster oven (with a temperature controller!) in our lab, IIRC, it generally took under 30 seconds at around 425 F to get a good flow of the solder-paste. Of course in our lab, we didn't use lead-free (RoHS) solder-paste, either. But still...
It's also an easier term to coin while massaging sage scented beard oil into your soul patch while cruising along on a hover-board discussing the profound implications of embracing the semi-popular ideas..
But remember, hover-boards should not be used while consuming locally sourced craft beers!
Or using your iPhone to control them!
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hammer?
I can't believe the ridiculous placement of the fingerprint sensor on the recent Samsung phones, it's like they thought to themselves "where's the worst possible place for the fingerprint scanner? Let's put it there!"
But then again, that describes basically every single design decision from Samsung since the end of the Note 4.
how do I rapidly disable it on this device?
The easy way is to long press the power button. That will re-boot the device causing it to require the password.
They need a compromised password feature like VeraCrypt so that if you have to give a password, you can but it only shows what you want them to see. This way, you not some poor guy held up in a jail cell for not cooperating. You technically gave them access. Matter of fact, I'd argue that password protected apps don't count in the same way as unlocking your phone. There are ways to lock any app on an iPhone if jailbroken.
It's a shame that people assume that people reference the US as if its laws apply everywhere.
In the UK you can be compelled to hand over your passcode too.
You can in the US too.
I thought about this, and when the phone is "cop locked" it shouldn't be totally locked down. FIngerprint should open it into "dumb phone" mode. In dumbphone mode, you should be able to make calls and send texts, but without the address book or call history; you should be able to receive calls, but only from people on the "all circumstances receive" list; you should be able to record photos, audio, and video, but not review that content. You should be able to play some fiddly little game that doesn't keep score.
Also, when someone "cop locks" their phone, the user should have the option to set it to broadcast a wifi ssid indicating that this happened, so that others nearby who have chosen for their phones to respond to that can have their phones automatically "cop locked." That way, during an incident, everyone in a group doesn't have to simultaneously whip their phones out and start punching the power button. And, of course this capability would need the corresponding ability to lock the phone down if it detects the presence of jamming that could prevent detection of the other signal.
If this is a thing, a phone should probably automatically go into a similar mode (the exception being to receive every call with only fingerprint needed to answer) after a half hour or so without active user interaction - also so you don't have to whip out your phone and lock it down when you're minding your own business in an urban environment and cops show up, mistaking you for a participant in a matter that concerns them.
Of course, once security awareness is incorporated into modes of operation, then one could go in the other direction as well. There could be three modes: dumbphone, tourist, and secure location. In tourist mode, your secure location password vault, secure location contacts, secure location messages to regular contacts, secure communication apps, secure files and secure location mode itself would all seem not to exist. That way, you could share your phone with a friend without sharing your surprise party planning messages. Everyone might know this mode has the potential to exist, but it'd still be rude to have a "secure mode" button sitting there thumbing its nose at your phone use guests.
Real spies won't need a secret mode, though. They could use apps located on nfc devices to encrypt their secrets into tourist mode pics in (relatively) plain sight.
I'm not saying it will pass legal muster. Prosecutors use the pain of the process to wear down defendants. You will be vindicated in the end but be out thousands of dollars in attorney's fees and time spent incarcerated.
You don't get it. When a cop arrests you, he can take a look at your personal possessions. Mostly to make sure you don't carry knifes, guns, spray cans, anything dangerous. Looking at your personal possessions includes your unlocked phone. And it includes putting your finger on the finger print scanner of your locked phone. That's prevented. And in that situation, you cannot be forced to reveal a passcode or use it to unlock your phone.
What you are talking about is cops with warrants, or being in court. That's a totally different situation. Disabling TouchID doesn't help. "Forgetting" the passcode doesn't help, only get's you into trouble. The only thing that helps is having no evidence against you on the phone.
Generally accepted by whom? Not anyone I work with. They just think its comical.
They should offer a 2 factor option of PIN and fingerprint.
I had no issues with it... but bad English is a fairly universal language, and "baked into" would leave most non-Americans puzzled.
"Contempt of court" - ie a jail cell till you comply with the court's orders. Even if that lasts longer than the maximum sentence for the supposed crime.
If you ran a program that encrypted a portion of your computer's hard drive without giving you the unlock code there is no way you could know the code to give to the police. But under UK law you can be held in Contempt of Court and jailed indefinitely for not handing over when asked the code you don't know. And in these days of crypto ransomware running wild that's an even more scary concept.
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