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Medium Will Now Pay Writers Based On How Many 'Claps' They Get (theverge.com)

Medium is getting creative with how they're paying its writers. The San Francisco-based online publishing platform will determine how much an author is paid by how many claps a story receives. Claps are basically Medium's equivalent of a Like, and they recently replaced the "recommend" feature -- a little heart button at the end of each article. The Verge reports: The site wants people to send authors claps to show how much they enjoy reading each article. Now, those claps are actually going to mean something. Medium pays authors by dividing up every individual subscriber's fee between the different articles they've read that month. But rather than doing an even division between articles, Medium will weight payments toward whichever articles a subscriber gives the most claps to. It's not clear exactly how much each individual clap tips the scale, but you can be sure that writers will be asking readers to click that button. It's a pretty strange way to implement payments, since it relies on a really arbitrary metric that individual subscribers might use in really different and inconsistent ways. Time spent on page and whether someone shared an article probably would have been useful metrics by which to tell how much a reader enjoyed a piece, but maybe that makes too much sense for a startup in the middle of its second business model pivot. On the positive side, claps can help Medium surface content that people are enjoying and get it in front of more readers.

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  1. Mob justice all the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who else bets that the frothing-at-the-mouth angry SJW articles (and their right-wing equivalents, I guess) will always get a ton of claps? (Claps? chlamydias? kek!)

    This is a good way to marginalize reasonable authors that tell the difficult truths, and pander to the lowest common mob drone from your favourite group of idiots.

    1. Re:Mob justice all the way by ckatko · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ironically, they're extremely vocal about video games and movies yet they never buy or watch them...

    2. Re:Mob justice all the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ironically, they're extremely vocal about video games and movies yet they never buy or watch them...

      Not ironic in their world. To even see what you are critical of is to normalize or give power to it. Read both here on slashdot as excuses for refusing to read the Google Memo.

    3. Re: Mob justice all the way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ironically, they're extremely vocal about video games and movies yet they never buy or watch them...

      Isn't it ironic; like meeting the man of your dreams, and his beautiful, beautiful wife?

      No Chris, you fucking moron, that isn't irony.

    4. Re: Mob justice all the way by ckatko · · Score: 1

      Can't we make peace, not war?

    5. Re:Mob justice all the way by Petersko · · Score: 1

      That only matters if you're in the business of difficult truths and avoiding the lowest common denominator. I don't know that's Medium's business, is it? I wouldn't judge Mad Magazine against that criteria.

    6. Re:Mob justice all the way by GonzoPhysicist · · Score: 1

      Seems like it would be rather hypocritical of them to support an industry they are complaining about.
      Maybe if someone made a game or movie to their tastes they might be more inclined to purchase.

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    7. Re:Mob justice all the way by tomhath · · Score: 1

      Too easily manipulated by a small but vocal/fanatic minority.

    8. Re:Mob justice all the way by Megol · · Score: 1

      I guess you are new to the Internet? Because the angry vocal shitheads are more likely racist, sexist idiots than the SJW strawmen people like you (=idiots) try to portrait as the standard. Whatever...

  2. Re: Medium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's a newspaper in San Francisco for the LGBTQ2SN community. So it's appropriate that writers get paid based on how many of their readers get the clap.

  3. Peak clickbait has arrived. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    And I for one am excited to see where this takes us.

  4. That can't possibly be abused. by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So whoever writes the most drivel that gets the most Facebook postings to drive more people to the site gets all the money each month. A writer could even pay people's subscriptions for a few months, since most of it would come back to them as payment. After building up a small following, they could just keep writing the same drivel and get the same claps, without having to payout the seed money anymore.

    It's like a multi-player computer game I played once, based on a small business model. The person who sunk all their money into Research and Development at the start had the most money each round, and then just before the end they sunk all their money into Advertising, and had all the money at the end. After seeing that, that was the only way to play the game if you wanted to win.

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    1. Re:That can't possibly be abused. by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The truth is very often undesirable and boring. So they will be paying more for artful lies. Want a system that works, treat your audience like children. Give them some pocket play money to spend, a set allowance each time period (longer time periods require more careful thought so 24hour vs 48 hour vs 7 days) and that they can spend with whom they wish. Allow them to earn extra play money by buying stuff with real money and they can spend that play money as they wish. Those authors who they choose to spend their play money with, earn real money. Selling stuff seems to work better than advertising stuff, in the current era. Advertising seems to be spending big to gain very little sales because once you are on the internet, you see and interesting item you might be interested in and you, well, immediately use the internet to compare it to competitors and find it is over priced shite with a big advertising product and you don't buy it. The only advertising that works for me, is when I am actually shopping and something is on special and I check it out (compare with competitors) and that special is actually worthwhile, that is it. Trying to squeeze marketing dollars out of that does not leave much space. Spend more on the product and less on advertising and you are more likely to win the sale.

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  5. Re: Medium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "2SN"? What's this latest addition to the freak show?

  6. Re: Medium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    LBGTQ2SN? What repressed deviant group is the "N" for?

  7. Autoclap.org by peterofoz · · Score: 1

    An anonymous bot service that provides automated "claps" for writers to get paid on articles.

  8. And cue the ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

    ... bots.

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    1. Re:And cue the ... by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking, where is my botnet when I need it!
      Next headline about Medium is that it's funds are Low and it's going Under.

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    2. Re:And cue the ... by r0kk3rz · · Score: 1

      What would the bots even do? Medium is weighing where an individual subscribers fees go according to articles that individual subscriber 'clapped'.

    3. Re:And cue the ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      ... individual subscriber 'clapped' ...

      Clapperbot @ 2017 CaptainDork

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    4. Re:And cue the ... by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      Dude, I have no clue what Medium even does, kinda inferred it from the blurb. I did try a quick google search on "Medium" but obviously had zero fucking luck with that. But I had work to do and a deadline, so I didn't bust a gut trying to find out more.

      If the only people who can clap have to be paid subscribers, then a simple calculation of how much money you will get by creating multiple accounts for the "bots" and the amount of money you would make getting "claps" would determine whether it was worth using a botnet. I assume Medium is making money in that equation somewhere so chances are you would be making a loss. UNLESS the pay scale they give you would slide depending on the number of claps and if the more you got the more prominently your stuff was displayed which would mean you would start getting claps from other people. I dunno, I suppose I need to research some more, but then I don't have a botnet (or the time to build one) so what's the point.

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  9. Re:Medium by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Funny

    And of those, how many care?

    I care. I am going to sign up as a writer, whip up a Selenium script to "clap" my articles, and then write myself a minivan. If that doesn't work, I will hire clappers on Mechanical Turk.

  10. Ad Revenue sharing fairness by peterofoz · · Score: 1

    If this online journal, magazine or news site is paid from ad views, then the fair way to do this is to share a portion of the ad revenue with the authors by views. By instituting a requirement for the viewer to 'clap' the article, they have another opportunity to get paid for an article and ad viewed, but not pay the writers.

  11. Re:Medium by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    For a while, not so long ago, one of their bloggers would submitl every post from their blog as a proposed Slashdot story. I got really tired of seeing medium.com all over the firehose (and even on the main page).

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  12. Re:Medium by phantomfive · · Score: 1

    They're basically trying to follow the Buzzfeed business model. Paying attention to online business models has value.

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  13. Re: Medium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The N word you xenophobic monster!

  14. Re: Medium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's customary to add a letter at random. So every time you use the acronym, add one more letter over the last time you used it. Otherwise I'd have to complain to the GP about lack of "A" and "I" and a few others in there, that insensitive clod.

  15. Re: Medium by s.petry · · Score: 1

    That is "2SN!!!!111ONE!!!!1!" you insensitive clod!

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  16. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    He also avoid claps by being a terrible writer.

    I may be a terrible writer but at least I make money at being a terrible writer. I wouldn't make money with Medium. If I want to give my work away for free, I would publish at Fictionaut.

  17. Re:Medium by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    dunno but they are sure to get lots of trollish "EVERYONE MUST READ THIS AND SHARE!!!" and cutesy cat stuff articles from now on..

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  18. Re: Medium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I prefer "GayBLT".

  19. crowdsourced by Reverend+Green · · Score: 1

    What's the chance the payouts will be determined in a fair, transparent, non-partisan manner?

    What's the chance this is just a way for the VC cabal who own Medium to crowdsource some hysterical anti-worker propaganda?

  20. Re: Medium by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3

    Appropriately, I've misread a sentence in the summary as "Claps are basically Medium's equivalent of lice". Maybe they should have gone for jazz hands?

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  21. all articles need same level of journalism by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    Claps are basically Medium's equivalent of a Like

    It's not like pay-per-click or 'like' or whatever hasn't been tried before. Probably hundreds have tried it.

    Journalism. That's the "problem" in a sense. If you want actual journalism, you need an article that gets 2000 clicks to have the same level of journalistic quality as one that gets 20000000.

    Journalism all needs to be of a minimum level of quality. In a free market economy there will be a fair market price for that minimum level.

    Unless the pay-per-clap thing is a bonus *beyond* fair market pay, or they set the rates to equal fair market pay intentionally, this will fail as inevitably writers will only do stories that will get a minimum number of clicks. Otherwise it won't be worth their time.

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    1. Re:all articles need same level of journalism by Megol · · Score: 1

      Yep. But in this new brave world appearance is everything and medium obviously thinks that's great.

  22. Great by schleimkeim · · Score: 1

    So all the writers have to do is gather a couple of friends to click that stupid button.

  23. Re: Medium by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    No it's not. It's LGBTQP+BBQ+UTC&A

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  24. Re:Medium by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

    Bearing in mind you get a portion of the clappers subscription money based on their claps each of you Selenium sesions will need a paid subscription. Good luck with that

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  25. Re: Medium by B33rNinj4 · · Score: 1

    Well done!

  26. It was inevitable by GrumpySteen · · Score: 2

    Ad-revenue driven websites have been in a race to the bottom, happily abandoning any sort of meaningful content in favor of clickbait that generates revenue. Switching the pay for the writers over to a formula derived from the number of clicks they generate is just the next step in that process.

    1. Re:It was inevitable by Northdot · · Score: 1

      It sounds like it may be even worse than that. Someone isn't likely to "clap" unless they agree with an article, so it will be maximum echo chamber as writers tailor content for their readers viewpoints.

  27. I've never gotten the clap... by clonehappy · · Score: 1

    And I never want to get it again!

  28. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    People told him he was a bad writer because he chose to write "scary" books - stories about monsters and ghosts, latter-day fairy tales.

    Uh, no. The fact that Stephen King made a shitload of money is why he got cared a "bad writer" over the years. If he hade made no money, no one would have cared. America has a literary tradition that anyone who writes for money and/or popular with the masses must be a hack. I'm honored to wear that badge, especially if it pisses off my merry band of trolls on Slashdot.

  29. What a brilliantly stupid idea. by ilsaloving · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Did they even *try* to think that through?

    Say goodbye to any topic that is even vaguely controversial.

    Say hello to authors that harshly compete with one another, and potentially even start backstabbing one another.

    The bottom line is that their quality will sink faster than... a very... fast... sinking... thing. *whistles*. (I was gonna say Trumps career but I'm sure everyone else is as sick to death about just reading that name, as I am...)

    Maybe they could have done this as a bonus on top of a basic salary, but not as their entire salary.

  30. I can't wait by computational+super · · Score: 2

    This will definitely increase the value and in-depth content of the postings. There's nothing internet readers flock to more than a calm, rational, carefully balanced view of all perspectives of a critical issue.

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  31. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    You're also not interested in your reader's reviews...

    Reader's reviews should always be taken with a grain of salt, especially when the reviews are too negative or too positive.

  32. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    But what if overall you have many negative reviews, and other people also laugh at you?

    Being the proverbial fat boy on the short bus (a.k.a, fat retard), I'm used to negative reactions and being laughed at.

    At what point can it become possible in your mind that you're a bad writer?

    Never. Being a writer means you have to continuously improve yourself. What you write today won't be as good as something you write ten years from now.

  33. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    But it's clear that you are interested, creimer.

    I'm always interested whenever a troll starts a thread that I'm not a part of by making a snide comment about my sexuality.

  34. Re:I doubt by Megol · · Score: 1

    How is that a trolling attempt? More reasonable than the pile of shit you posted (opinion without reasoning nor facts to back it up). And you obviously do care as you not only read the above post but replied to it.

    So you are a hypocritical poster claiming to be spamming (=posting without being interested in a debate). Yeah. We call those trolls.

  35. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    How is that a trolling attempt?

    Because this is the fourth, fifth or sixth time that this particular AC told me that my writing sucks and then writes paragraphs about a literary debate I'm not interested in having.

  36. Claps? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    I thought they were asking me to give them crap!

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  37. Re: I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    You are such a piece of shit and 100x worst than any troll I've seen here.

    No, that would be the person who posted dick pics with my contact info.

  38. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

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    What makes you think I would be interested in this unsolicited advice?

  39. Re:I doubt by ls671 · · Score: 1

    On a non-writing topic, this website will save your life: https://intensivedietarymanage... [intensived...gement.com]
    I recommend starting here [intensived...gement.com], then reading around. There's many article series, with intermittent fasting being the most important.

    What makes you think I would be interested in this unsolicited advice?

    What makes you think I would be interested in unsolicited advice about books and other stuff?

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  40. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    What makes you think I would be interested in unsolicited advice about books and other stuff?

    As of yesterday, 3,525 clicks from interested Slashdotters so far this month.

  41. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    We think you need it, just like you think we need your constant shitposting.

    That's where you're wrong. My product recommendations are optional and can be freely ignore. Unsolicited advice about a person's health is usually an attempt to put yourself above that person, and, when that unsolicited advice is rejected out of hand as it should be, you will feel entitled to bitch at that person for not doing things your way. I got two words: suck it.

  42. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

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    When I had to take care of my father for two months after he had an episode that put him in the hospital, he had to got a diabetic nutrition class and go on a low-carb diet (150g per day). Since company loves misery, I had to take to him to class and go on the same diet. My father went off of insulin in six months because of the diet. I'm still on the low-carb diet after five years. I recently lost ten pounds and plateaued out at 360 pounds. And life goes on...

  43. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

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    Only on Slashdot.

  44. Re:I doubt by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    August has been a weird month for sales. No sale for the first ten days. Got 50% of last month's sales in one weekend. No sales for another ten days. Daily sales are picking up now. Not sure if I'll get the other 50% this weekend or the remainder of the month. Click through rate is 50% higher than last month. People are kicking the tires but not buying much.