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Domino's Market Tests A Self-Driving Pizza Delivery Car (cnn.com)

An anonymous reader quotes CNN: Someday soon your Domino's Pizza could be delivered to you -- without an actual delivery person. Ford and Domino's are testing out a specially-equipped Ford Fusion that comes not only with self-driving technology but also an oven. It sounds cool but there is a catch -- there's no one to walk the pizza to your front door and ring the bell. That's what Ford and Domino's say they're really testing. "How will customers react to coming outside to get their food?" Domino's president Russell Weiner said in a statement, "We need to make sure the interface is clear and simple."

During the testing phase, an engineer and a driver will be in the car -- but the windows will be heavily tinted so customers can't see them. And both have been instructed not to interact with people at all. Domino's wants to see how well customers deal with coming out and getting their own pie from what is, basically, a pizza ATM built into the car. To get their pizzas, customers will have to enter a number on the touchpad, then a back window will lower, revealing the pizza. Over the next five weeks, randomly selected customers around Ann Arbor, Michigan, will be offered the option of getting their pizza delivered by the hi-tech "driverless" car.

145 comments

  1. College Campus by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2

    Perfect testing ground.

    1. Re:College Campus by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Funny

      Since I don't have to tip, I am for it.

    2. Re:College Campus by tgeek · · Score: 1

      I remember well what traffic was like in Ann Arbor. Good luck getting your pizza delivered the same day. Unless you don't mind a few pedestrians impaled on the grill of the self driving car. But then again, that shouldn't affect the pizza /shrug

    3. Re:College Campus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God damn your nothing commentary is boring. Oh really, college campuses enjoy pizza? Derp. Fuck you.

    4. Re:College Campus by edgedmurasame · · Score: 1

      Never mind that Ann Arbor is quite hilly.

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    5. Re:College Campus by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      You don't have to use a Ford Fusion as your delivery vehicle. A golf cart or motorcycle with an oven sidecar would work fine. And conceptually it could cook the pizza while traveling. On a college campus, I'd worry more about the customers finding ways to bypass the payment step.

      The big problem is probably going to be that the technology to navigate a target rich environment without hitting anything/anybody doesn't exist and is probably going to be way harder to develop than most folks think.

      I recall that in Tokyo in the 1980s and likely today as well, take out food deliveries were made by bicycle or motorscooter.

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    6. Re:College Campus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was my first thought it will make pizzas "cheaper" because you'll knock 10-20% off the top not having to tip. Probably would increase sales for them and reduce expenses.

    7. Re:College Campus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha ha ha. HA HA HAAA!

      No.

      The reason you tip your pizza guy is so you don't get "extra spit" as a topping.

      They will remember you from your phone number and mark it down.

    8. Re:College Campus by OffaMyLawn · · Score: 1

      There are a multitude of reasons I tip well for all my delivery food. This is one.

      Another is because I've had several delivery persons tell us that when they head out with multiple orders, if our house is on the list, we go to the top immediately. People you treat well tend to return the favor, who would have guessed?

    9. Re:College Campus by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      you tip the driver, not the people working the counter. If you tip a driverless car by adding a tip to your credit card order, Domino's is going to keep 100% of that extra money and not tell the employee's about it. It's not like a restaurant where the waitress tips the busboy for turning over her tables faster. I've only ever heard of a few mom+pop places where the tips are community property divided equally among employees. You can bet your ass Domino's isn't one.

  2. Always some lame fucking bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whenever something cool supposedly happens, it's always lame and retarded when you get the details. Make a fucking delivery robot and maybe this would be news.

  3. "How will customers react to coming outside to get their food?" Judging by the scary apartment building I delivered to 25 years ago or so, they'll go along with it.

    1. Re:how? by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      They're hungry. If they weren't, they wouldn't have ordered a pizza. Odds are that they'll walk out to the curb to get it.

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    2. Re:how? by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      I live somewhere where it is -13F most of the year. If I wanted to go outside to get pizza, I would have gone out to pick it up. This better come with some convincing discounts beyond the tip.

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  4. Let's do some physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A 2500 pound vehicle to carry one 1-pound pizza. That's efficient. Make it a drone, obviously.

    1. Re:Let's do some physics by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nowhere in the description does it say it will deliver pizzas one at a time; I would assume it would do multiple deliveries per run for efficiency's sake.

    2. Re:Let's do some physics by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Since it has an oven, it seems like the next step should be to load it with with frozen pizzas in the morning and have it cook them on route all day.

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    3. Re:Let's do some physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The next step is to combine it with one of these.

    4. Re:Let's do some physics by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Since it has an oven, it seems like the next step should be to load it with with frozen pizzas in the morning and have it cook them on route all day.

      For even more savings, have the buyer bake their own pizza too.

      Seriously, the reason people order pizza is so they won't have to go get it. I'm not going to exchange my robe and slippers for full clothing and walk to the end of the driveway, especially not in bad weather. I'd rather tip someone who does it voluntarily.

    5. Re:Let's do some physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since it has an oven, it seems like the next step should be to load it with with frozen pizzas in the morning and have it cook them on route all day.

      Sure, can you please add extra toppings to the right side of the pizza.

    6. Re: Let's do some physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This version is a vehicle that size. But there's no reason the future version would have to.

      This version is carrying not just the pizzas and the warmer, but an engineer as well. Losing the engineer would cut a ton of weight between the person, seat and safety gear.

    7. Re:Let's do some physics by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      who does it voluntarily.

      I know some people love their jobs, and it's their dream career. But no one is a pizza delivery driver voluntarily.

    8. Re:Let's do some physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never seen one being forced at gunpoint to deliver my pie.

    9. Re:Let's do some physics by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      Considering I made more than double minimum wage in college delivering pizza, I had no complaints about being a delivery guy.

    10. Re:Let's do some physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand what you're saying. That a delivery driver is no one's long-term career choice, but words really _fucking_ matter. One could choose to not work just as easily as one could choose to work as a pizza delivery driver.

    11. Re:Let's do some physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hunger is a cheaper and more effective weapon than a gun.

    12. Re:Let's do some physics by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Are you still a pizza delivery guy? Did you do it for love or did you do it because you needed money?

    13. Re:Let's do some physics by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Sure, can you please add extra toppings to the right side of the pizza.

      Why would that be a problem?

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    14. Re:Let's do some physics by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.

    15. Re: Let's do some physics by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      are you calling the engineer fat? LOL.

      one reason to keep a heavier autonomous vehicle of moderate size is theft. If they used a drone not much bigger than your order, and it sat around waiting for a code to be input to ensure the right person retrieved the order, whats to stop someone from stealing that drone? The drone would be worth more than the pie, even if it were just sold for parts. Theres been a huge uptick in theft lately, to such a degree that even with positive ID of car theft, they are not prosecuting, should the car be recovered later. Insurance companies dont want to pay for lawsuits and the DA office isnt charging the felonies. Its hard to steal a vehicle, even one as small as a SMART car.

    16. Re:Let's do some physics by apoc.famine · · Score: 1

      That's a pretty stupid argument. Only a very small percent of people do their job because they love it. How many lottery winners go back to work? I know that while I like my job, if I was independently wealthy I'd be gone in a heartbeat.
       
      Given the tips and the hours, there are lots of reasons to love a pizza delivery job if you're a teen who can't work a regular 9-5 shift. Where else can you make double minimum wage after dinner while smoking a lot of weed?

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    17. Re: Let's do some physics by Guru2Newbie · · Score: 1

      Really? Frozen pizzas are configured with default toppings; low probability that they could carry *every* permutation of desired frozen pizzas. So add in a robotic refrigerator for the fresh toppings that someone *may* want added to their pizza (after thawing, before cooking). Plus, there needs to be a robotic, on-demand topping-distribution method that works properly for every possible topping kept on hand (or robot claw). So now you have a freezer, a robotic pizza oven and a robotic refrigerator in the same back seat to fight it out, environmentally (HVAC) speaking. I see no difficulties at all. /s

    18. Re: Let's do some physics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... why wouldn't you just wear the robe and slippers out to the driveway?

    19. Re:Let's do some physics by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Only a very small percent of people do their job because they love it.

      So? That doesn't change the argument at all. Only a very small percent of people go to work voluntarily which was my original point. The pizza guy isn't "voluntarily" dredging through the rain and snow. He's doing it because if he didn't he'd not get paid and THAT is the only reason he's currently in your driveway.

      Just because you love a job, doesn't mean you do it voluntarily. You just admitted that yourself.

    20. Re: Let's do some physics by arth1 · · Score: 1

      ... why wouldn't you just wear the robe and slippers out to the driveway?

      Snow, rain and fisher cats.

    21. Re: Let's do some physics by GLMDesigns · · Score: 1

      Well. Maybe not EVERY configuration possible. :)

      but there has to be an 80/20 rule that's applicable here.

      1. Frozen pie goes into oven
      2, Pepperoni, or one or more of 4 toppings, gets added to the pie.

      -- Pie spins and toppings (pepperoni, mushroom) get dropped. OR
      -- Toppings are dropped on one half of the pie

      Obviously not ALL permutations are possible but I'm sure a large portion of the most common ones could be.

      I'm a pizza snob so I wouldn't partake in this. But, if someone is already a Dominos type of guy, then I can see a pepperoni / mushroom / extra cheese pie being made on the way to their house.

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  5. An the point of getting food delivered is .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When i order food for delivery it is because I either have a hang over or it is raining/cold and I therefore don't want to go outside. For me, NOT having to go outside is the whole point of getting food delivered.

  6. This is not progress. by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right now, the pizza comes to my door. I don't need to put shoes on or a coat. This customer experience is worse. Why would I choose it when there are other pizza deliveries that will still deliver to the door.

    It would have to be significantly cheaper...

    1. Re:This is not progress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will be cheaper in the sense that you won't need to tip a delivery driver. Instead of the $2 tip or whatever, you get to go outside to the car.

    2. Re:This is not progress. by thereitis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wait till ED-209 exits the car when you walk away without tipping

    3. Re:This is not progress. by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      I should think it should at least be faster .... if there's an oven in the car then it should be able to complete the cook on the way to the house.

      If they just mean a warming oven, then meh. I generally had to go out of the apartment when I lived in one to get the pizza anyway, none of the drivers had a clue where apartment 23 of 50 was.

    4. Re:This is not progress. by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      And it's also shit pizza. Any local restaurant can do better.

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    5. Re:This is not progress. by Nutria · · Score: 3, Funny

      I can just imagine the chaos caused by sub-100 IQ people (and hung-over higher IQ ones) opening a hot pizza oven.

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    6. Re:This is not progress. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      It would have to be significantly cheaper...

      What a coincidence. Exactly the customer base of people who would choose Domino's to begin with over another pizzeria.

    7. Re:This is not progress. by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Right now, the pizza comes to my door. I don't need to put shoes on or a coat. This customer experience is worse. Why would I choose it when there are other pizza deliveries that will still deliver to the door. It would have to be significantly cheaper...

      Here in Norway the pizza shops take ~75 NOK for delivery and ~250 NOK for a big pizza, tipping is not common. At work I get reimbursed 4.10 NOK/km for using my own car which is expected to roughly cover the running cost of the car with gas and wear/tear and the pizza shops usually deliver within 4 km. So at most it's ~33 NOK round trip to deliver a single pizza, my guess the average doing rounds is more like 10-15 NOK. The rest is probably mostly paying the driver for his work shift. I guess the autonomy and ATM and loading it up will add some cost so let's say 25 NOK/delivery should be possible, that's 2/3rds off the delivery charge and 15% off the total... I'd go outside and get it myself for that.

      And that's assuming the service doesn't get better, like if the car is only costing money when it's driving and much less per km they could have longer opening hours, greater range, express delivery etc. because it's much less of an issue if there's idle capacity. Though to be honest I think the cart is way before the horse here, what you need is the autonomous car. The other part is just a glorified vending machine, it would be pretty hard to fuck that part up so bad people wouldn't use it.

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    8. Re:This is not progress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us live in gated apartments and have to get off our asses and go to the gate anyway. What's an extra 5 feet? Now the question is: will the cars just block traffic if there's no parking?

    9. Re:This is not progress. by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      In many states, it gets COLD in the winter. In my state, it can get to -40F. If I have to walk outside to a car to get a pizza, I might as just well drive to the Domino's store and get it myself.

    10. Re:This is not progress. by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Not in the UK. Dominos pizzas are about the most expensive of the take away and delivery pizza companies. Their pizzas are stupid prices.

    11. Re:This is not progress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and yet there will still be a 3.75 delivery fee assessed on all delivery orders.

    12. Re:This is not progress. by jezwel · · Score: 1
      I think it would simply be faster delivery - make the pizza and chuck into the car oven. Pizza is cooked during autonomous delivery. Saves several minutes of in-house cooking time.

      Of course, coming up with a level 5 autonomous car is going to take some time...

    13. Re:This is not progress. by Zaelath · · Score: 1

      I was envisioning the "pizza ATM" in the summary to handle that part, and keep their filthy mitts off my pizza.

      If I found it was at all trivial to get at anything but my pizza, it would be my last order... it's bad enough having professionals spit in your food.

    14. Re:This is not progress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it would simply be faster delivery - make the pizza and chuck into the car oven. Pizza is cooked during autonomous delivery.

      And once the customers who have burnt themselves removing the pizza from the oven have finished sueing the delivery company, how much of a busness do you expect to be left?

    15. Re:This is not progress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right now, the pizza comes to my door. I don't need to put shoes on or a coat. This customer experience is worse. Why would I choose it when there are other pizza deliveries that will still deliver to the door.

      It would have to be significantly cheaper...

      I agree. There is a Dominos about a 1/2 mile from my house. I usually just order on my phone and then go get the pizza. This doesn't sound any better, since I assume they will charge me to bring it to me, but I'll still have to get dressed and go outside.

    16. Re:This is not progress. by MancunianMaskMan · · Score: 1

      Not in the UK. Dominos pizzas are about the most expensive of the take away and delivery pizza companies. Their pizzas are stupid prices.

      yes but only if you exclude the few places that make actual decent pizza, as opposed to the grease-soaked takeaway rubbish "pizza" you get at Domino, their imitators, or your typical ethnically-diverse takeaway that covers all the bases by offering kebaba and fried chicken as well as fish&chips, pizza, and curries.

    17. Re:This is not progress. by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      The real pizza places around me don't deliver at all. And they still aren't as expensive as Dominos.

    18. Re:This is not progress. by SirMasterboy · · Score: 1

      Well, fuel is not free...

    19. Re:This is not progress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's absurdly expensive. ~325 NOK works out to almost $42.00US to deliver a single pizza?

    20. Re:This is not progress. by bozzy · · Score: 1

      That's ok. As long as you run down stairs, you'll be fine.

    21. Re:This is not progress. by geoscodin · · Score: 1

      I delivered pizzas in college and tips were virtually non-existent, so I always tip well. The thing that may reduce prices is that I got $0.50/sandwich and $1/pizza from the company, but my only real tips came from any girls who thought I was cute, thus my virtually non-existent qualifier.

    22. Re:This is not progress. by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      when I was in the navy and stationed in dorms on base, the drivers were only allowed to come as close as the parking lot. This was even before you could get a text that the driver was waiting, so sometimes they waited a good 10min. I believe college dorms have similar issues. They can't just stroll into a dorm anymore, not after all the reaction to a girl getting raped about 20yrs ago.

    23. Re:This is not progress. by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Pizzas take about 10 minutes to cook in a commercial pizza oven. There's not a lot of time savings to be had there.

    24. Re:This is not progress. by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      the tip is not for the company, its for the driver specifically. They companies started throwing extra delivery charges more than 15yrs ago. Before then there was no price difference between ordering for delivery or picking it up at the store, aside from a $1 or $2 tip to the driver.
            Anyone tipping 20% is retarded. You tip a waitress or waiter 15-20% because he brings your drinks, brings your food, refills your drinks, makes sure if the food has an issue he/she gets it fixed, cleans up after you, does the dishes, etc. Plus she is paid $2.13/hr so the tips ARE her income. Its purely commission based. IF all they did was drop your food off it would be free. There are plenty of fast-food restaurants that take your order at the counter, give you a numbered sign, and then bring you your food. None of them are tipped for that. That's like giving the drive-thru attendant a tip when she hands you a bag of food, or tells you to pull forward and later brings it to your car. I used to tip more for delivery when they had to pay their own gas. Now the company charges a $2.50 delivery charge to recover fuel costs. The driver makes a full wages anywhere between $5/hr and $9/hr, depending on location. Because its not classified as a tipped employee, and a lot of times the tip is cash, its typically tax-free. The only exception would be ordering a lot of pies, and then tip proportional to the number of pizza's ordered. If I was tipping a driver because the office did a big order and ended up getting 6 or 7 delivered, I'd probably tip $10.

    25. Re:This is not progress. by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure this is just a warming oven, therefore under 200F. Quoted from a vendor that makes equipment:

      "To do this, companies such as FWE / Food Warming Equipment have figured out the ideal temperature and humidity settings specifically for pizza. FWE has found that maintaining and holding pizza at 150F – 160F with a relative humidity* of 15% – 20% will keep the pizza at an optimal serving quality."

      At 160F you aren't going to get an immediate contact burn. Eons ago I worked as a dishwasher for a restaurant. The machine had a 180F rinse cycle to be considered sterilized. The entire time from pressing start to pulling out the rack was around 5 min. There was not a lot of time to let the rack cool down before emptying. Basically you let them air cool while you were spraying off the dishes going into the next rack (basically 2 -3 minutes). The shit was hot but I never got burned. Water at 150 burns much faster than conductive contact. Such as the famous McDonalds coffee incident, because they insist of serving their coffee at 160F (that way its ready to drink 45min from now, instead of right now)

    26. Re:This is not progress. by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      the final version will likely be a very lightweight, all electric, and some sort of plug-in or hot-swap for power source. It will not have have to meet any of the NHTSA regulations beyond lights and signals since there are no passengers to keep alive. This cuts weight considerably. Essentially its an all electric go-cart with an onboard computer, warming oven, and access code vending module, all wrapped in a skin. This could be done under 500lb. Therefore its plausable that the delivery charge could go from $2.50 to something much lower since the 'fuel surcharge' amounts to electricity and maintenance. Whether a corporation decides to do this or not simply pocket the profits remains to be seen. Im sure the cities with legal cannabis will gladly still pay $2.50 and avoid any DUI charges. Quite possibly their largest customer base =)

    27. Re:This is not progress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You got suckered by a silly advert, talking about the 'customer experience' and drones and shit.

      Who's the sub-100 IQ retard again?

    28. Re:This is not progress. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^This.
      This is why I am so happy to live in a country without a tipping culture.
      Having to worry about how much extra money I should pay based on what particular branch of the food/drink industry they work in or how much work they had to do or knowing approximately how much base wages they are getting paid, just does my head in. Just tell me the price and I'll pay it.
      Service staff should be paid a decent wage just like anyone else, and as far as I can tell the service isn't any better or worse over here.

    29. Re:This is not progress. by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Anyone tipping 20% is retarded.

      As a former pizza delivery driver, we remember who tips and who doesn't. That does matter as we often take the orders, also help make the pizzas, in many cases route them, and decide in what order they get delivered in once out the door.

  7. The best part? by bobstreo · · Score: 1

    I'm never, ever tipping a robot for service.

    So that's $3-5 cheaper already.

    1. Re:The best part? by freeze128 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean that you will never give a robot a "gratuity". On the other hand, TIPPING a robot is something I might do...

    2. Re:The best part? by stdarg · · Score: 1

      They'll probably increase their delivery fee to compensate.

  8. NEVER by lucm · · Score: 2

    If they send a robot, we will lose the opportunity to look at the driver name in the tracking app and get in stalker mode if it sounds even vaguely like a girl name.

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    1. Re:NEVER by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      for an additional fee they will send a sex robot.

    2. Re:NEVER by mishehu · · Score: 1

      You could probably request delivery by The Crushinator

    3. Re:NEVER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For an even larger fee they'll clean the robot before your delivery.

  9. Take the pizza, leave a turd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People are going to abuse the hell out of this. They'll put excrement, used condoms, dead rodents, vomit, or god knows what else for the next customer to deal with.

    1. Re: Take the pizza, leave a turd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that there'll probably be cameras combined with a location and the authenticated identity of each customer (thanks to payment, etc), I'd expect that to be curbed fairly quickly.

    2. Re:Take the pizza, leave a turd. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      People are going to abuse the hell out of this.

      Domino's will have your phone number, your credit card number, and a video recording of your misbehavior.

    3. Re:Take the pizza, leave a turd. by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      People are going to abuse the hell out of this. They'll put excrement, used condoms, dead rodents, vomit, or god knows what else for the next customer to deal with.

      Alright. Now I need to go see if Netflix has Drawn Together. The above brought Spanky Ham's "sausage" pizza prank to mind.

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    4. Re: Take the pizza, leave a turd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use my handy flowchart to check if Netflix has it:

      Do you want to see it? --> Yes --> "Search for titles related to..."

    5. Re: Take the pizza, leave a turd. by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      I would mod you up if I hadn't already posted... and if I had points.

      But I did not get that result this time around. Nope, it was "Drawn Together is available on DVD only."

      Fortunately, watchartoononline has it.

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    6. Re:Take the pizza, leave a turd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People are going to abuse the hell out of this.

      Domino's will have your phone number, your credit card number, and a video recording of your misbehavior.

      Only if they use their own credit card and phone.
      My credit cards has been cloned like four times over the years, and every time they bought a Pizza Hut item in addition to something trivial at a Walmart or Target. At first I was angry, but when I saw what they had bought, I only felt sorrow for them.

  10. The Deliverator is going to be out of a job by llamalad · · Score: 4, Funny

    "The Deliverator used to make software. Still does, sometimes. But if life were a mellow elementary school run by well-meaning education Ph.D.s, the Deliverator's report card would say: "Hiro is so bright and creative but needs to work harder on his cooperation skills."

    So now he has this other job. No brightness or creativity involvedâ"but no cooperation either. Just a single principle: the Deliverator stands tall, your pie in thirty minutes or you can have it free, shoot the driver, take his car, file a class-action suit. The Deliverator has been working this job for six months, a rich and lengthy tenure by his standards, and has never delivered a pizza in more than twenty-one minutes. " â" Neal Stephenson

    1. Re:The Deliverator is going to be out of a job by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 1

      Next time fix the quotes and drop the attribution. Make them work for the reward.

  11. If it's cheaper people will go for it by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    Walmart has shown that many people will put up with a crap product if it seems to save them a few bucks.

    I'd just as soon pay a few bucks more and let the kid keep his delivery job.

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    1. Re:If it's cheaper people will go for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Fuck Domino's and Ford and everybody else trying to put people out of work.

    2. Re:If it's cheaper people will go for it by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      I'd just as soon pay a few bucks more and let the kid keep his delivery job.

      You can create even more jobs if you pay him to smash windows.

      Nobody benefits from pointless busywork, so why not just spend the "few bucks" on something you actually want, so someone can be employed to create it?

    3. Re: If it's cheaper people will go for it by Thundercat007 · · Score: 1

      I agree, I haven't ordered a big chain pizza in years. I go to this little Italian restaurant, I go in, see the owners mother with a huge cauldron on the stove. I ask what she's doing , he tells me (thick Italian accent) she a make a da sauce. Ever since, only place I go. He delivers to my door personally, we shoot the breeze.

    4. Re:If it's cheaper people will go for it by mrclevesque · · Score: 1

      "Nobody benefits from pointless busywork"

      What is to one isn't to another and what isn't to another is to one too.

  12. This is very strange by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was assured that we'd be 3D printing pizza by now, in this post-Luddite revolution we live in.

  13. This is not news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's marketing bullshit which Slashdot runs without thinking. Slashdot. you used to be a great source of news. These days you're full of shit. How long has it been since I've seen an interesting news article posted on Slashdot? I can't even remember.

  14. Think of the poor ... by dasgoober · · Score: 1

    ... porn writers!
    They're gonna hafta come up with new plots!!!

    1. Re:Think of the poor ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Hey, nice chassis! Oh, look. You're low on fuel. Can I... Fill you up?"

      Bow-chicka-bow-bow.

    2. Re:Think of the poor ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or combine them. The pizza van broke down in front of Rhonda's apartment and the hot hunk who showed up to repair it gave her a delivery of his own that day. Bow chicka wow wow.

    3. Re:Think of the poor ... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      They're gonna hafta come up with new plots!!!

      If the majority of porn being made today is any indication, they can just switch it up to a woman going out to get her pizza and being choked and raped on the hood of the delivery vehicle.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:Think of the poor ... by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      I thought they did away with plots? waay waay back in the 80s the type of porn out there was a spoof on a real movie. It was full length, had a story line, bad acting, multiple sex scenes. Fast forward a few decades and the scenes practically start out undressed and end just as soon as the facial is over.

  15. franchises stores don't have funds for owned cars by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    franchises stores don't have funds for owned cars no they under pay drivers to use there own. Lot's of them don't have commercial car insurance. As some personal car insurance does not cover pizza / food.

  16. instructed not to interact with people at all. by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Good way to get in local lock up and makes it sound like there are safety issues and they don't want any one to say something about them.

  17. Multi drop runs?? will they have more then holding by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Multi drop runs?? will they have more then holding area?

  18. Fake orders and robbery setups by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    Fake orders and robbery setups will this system fall victim to them.

    1. Re:Fake orders and robbery setups by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Fake orders and robbery setups will this system fall victim to them.

      Even now, many pizza shops require caller ID to place an order by phone, or pre-payment with a credit card.

      The delivery vehicle will have a camera, and require presentation of a texted QR code to dispense the pizza.

      I have a hard time seeing how either fake orders or robberies could be a problem. At least the robberies will be much LESS of a problem than with human drivers, since there will be no wallet to steal.

    2. Re:Fake orders and robbery setups by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      since there will be no wallet to steal. But they will have an car that will be coded to not hit people. Just jam the cell and it can't send out any data.

    3. Re:Fake orders and robbery setups by scdeimos · · Score: 1

      The delivery vehicle will have a camera, and require presentation of a texted QR code to dispense the pizza.

      You should at least RTFA before spouting on about it. QR codes would be nice and simple but people have to enter the last four digits of the phone number used to place the order into a keypad when picking up the pizza. So backwards.

    4. Re:Fake orders and robbery setups by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      QR codes would be nice and simple but people have to enter the last four digits of the phone number used to place the order into a keypad when picking up the pizza. So backwards.

      If your phone dies between the time you make the order and the time the delivery occurs, you still want to be able to get your pizza off the truck.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  19. Why don't they automate the last bit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They could just launch a drone from the roof of the car to deliver the pizza to your doorstep. It could recharge itself from the car in-between deliveries. The bigger puzzle is how they deal with people who want to steal or destroy the car or the drone...

    1. Re:Why don't they automate the last bit? by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      stealing the car would be more difficult due to size/weight. the drone would be easier. You could conceivably get the delivery vehicle down to 500lb ( not much more than those motorized wheelchairs) and make them just big enough to be difficult to put into a vehicle/truck/etc. A drone big enough to avoid the same thing probably becomes a safety issue with the rotating propeller.

  20. Pizza delivery and no drivers??? by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 1

    Sounds racist to me.

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    "The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
  21. Mothership EV could launch drones by Morgaine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A 2500 pound vehicle to carry one 1-pound pizza. That's efficient. Make it a drone, obviously.

    Combine the two types of autonomous vehicle for the best of both worlds. An autonomous EV van could be loaded with pizzas and able to launch short-hop delivery drones. It could keep one or more drones out delivering to the door while the rest are being recharged on the EV as their mothership.

    This overcomes several issues, notably the lack of delivery to the door in Domino's (test) solution. It also ensures that pizza stays hot without needing a heavily insulated box since the trip by air would be much shorter. What's more, it allows the flying drones to be replaced with short-range wheeled delivery bots as an alternative, perhaps chosen on a house by house basis, which may be cheaper and more reliable, or even necessary in the rain.

    Recharging on the mothership overcomes both efficiency and range issues, and allows smaller/cheaper batteries to be used in end-delivery vehicles. This in turn could lead towards the short-hop drones/bots becoming cheap, mass-produced, disposable delivery elements.

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    "The question of whether machines can think is no more interesting than [] whether submarines can swim" - Dijkstra
    1. Re:Mothership EV could launch drones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is clearly an advertisement.

      One that has generated a 130+ comment discussion in a supposedly intelligent community.

      Do you realize how dumb you people are discussing this ad in earnest? Whoever said nerds were smart was WAY wrong.

  22. The sky was the perfect untroubled blue by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    of a television screen, tuned to a dead channel.

    If Niel Gaiman can adapt so can they.

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  23. right... by supernova87a · · Score: 1

    Really, so out of all the problems that autonomous vehicle manufacturers face in terms of developing, testing, and deploying their technology, the pizza part is the hard part? Get real. This will die within 18 months (sooner if they're smart).

    The amount of uninformed ignorance of how hard a problem this is (not the pizza part) is astounding. It's almost a joke that they think to attach the triviality of the pizza to the problem.

  24. Domino's working on self driving car by bongey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Guess they finally threw in the towel on making a good pizza.

    1. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Food preparation robots are kind of hard... Maybe harder than a self-driving car.

      Food tends to be soft, made of many irregularly shaped small parts that even humans find a challenge to handle, and requires some fairly good computer vision. Lidar won't help you evenly cover a pizza base.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    2. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Food preparation robots are kind of hard... Maybe harder than a self-driving car.

      Pizza-making machines are a well-solved problem, which is why there are so many frozen pizza offerings at your local supermarket.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    3. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      They call them "pizza", but they aren't really... You are right, I should have specified that robots can't make real human-style pizza.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    4. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      You are right, I should have specified that robots can't make real human-style pizza.

      Right, and this would affect Domino's "pizza" how?

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    5. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Guess they finally threw in the towel on making a good pizza.

      Real question for the Americans: What are Dominos pizzas like in taste and price compared to other normal Pizzas? In Australia they were great. Loads of toppings, huge variety, it was actually really difficult to beat them on taste and almost impossible to beat them in bang for buck.

      Even now you go to a lovely Italian place where they make their own dough and have their own wood fired pizza stove, and the littering of ingredients is so sparse and the flavours so basic that I find it hard to justify it.

      One place that did beat them was Pizza Hut ... in China. But then the pizzas there cost $25 when I could get a full freshly made meal down the road for $1-3. So that definitely failed on cost.

    6. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Fair point. For some reason I had images of proper pizza restaurants.

      Not watching adverts sometimes insulates you from what is mostly considered common knowledge.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    7. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Real question for the Americans: What are Dominos pizzas like in taste and price compared to other normal Pizzas?

      In my part of the US, they are absolutely terrible. Greasy, bland, poor quality ingredients.

      However, they used to be a lot worse! I would say they're no longer the worst pizza you can buy from a chain, but now rank as maybe the third worst.

      The Dominos customer base is primarily college students who haven't learned that they can do much better for only a little more money.

    8. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I'm not surprised. I've stopped judging companies by what is said about them in other countries. As said I had an awesome Pizzahut pizza in China. Truly a delight on the tongue. Yet in Australia I instead got a tasteless ingredient sparse disc with a side of spending the entire following day on the toilet.

      I can't stand anything from KFC in the Netherlands. Yet their chips have the most amazing seasoning in Australia. McDonalds is bland and boring in Australia, yet they had all sorts of exotic burgers with interesting ingredients in Austria. Subway serves apple slices to put on your bread in Germany. WTF!

    9. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Yes, I was surprised to hear that there are Pizza Huts that make great pizzas. Again, in my part of the US (these things can and do differ in different parts of the country), I would say that the worst pizza you can buy is Little Caesars, followed by Pizza Hut, then Domino's.

      Several years ago, the same three populated the list, but Domino's ranked at #1 in it. It was so bad that Domino's made a major effort to change their ways and engaged in a media blitz where they literally were saying "our pizzas don't suck anymore". And they did improve, moving to the third worst position.

    10. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL fuck off. Dominos is literal fucking crap pretending to be pizza even in Australia. If you cant find a better pizza in Australia, you are fucking retarded. Like a literal retard.

    11. Re:Domino's working on self driving car by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of those were franchises. What follows is my understanding of Pizza Hut's expansion into a certain Asian market:

      Pizza Hut (PH) franchises an entrepreneur for the market, asking for a share of the profit. This entrepreneur works out the details, including incentivising a cheese industry that literally hadn't existed before.
      The franchise (PHF) makes decent pizza, partly because over-processed ingredients were not really a thing in that part of the world at that time. Over time, the pizza becomes spicier, owing to the local cuisine, and adds local flavors: shrimp soup pizza and the like.
      PHF continues expanding and does rather well.
      PH itself becomes rather envious and asks for a bigger slice of the pie (oho! puns!). Entrepreneur disagrees. They part ways with PHF renaming all its restaurants.
      PH expands into the market itself, or with some new franchisee and competes with their original franchisee.

      New Yorkers or Italians might complain about the two chains' offerings, but they are both decent and wildly better than any PH-USA I've had the misfortune to visit.

  25. Pounds means Economics by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 1

    A 2500 pound vehicle to carry one 1-pound pizza. That's efficient.

    The only time physicists use pounds is as a currency unit which would make this an economics question and a vehicle costing 2,500 pounds sounds pretty efficient to me. However, I'm not sure I would want to eat a pizza which cost one pound. Sometimes you can be too efficient.

  26. inexpensive by bugs2squash · · Score: 1

    it sounds like an inexpensive way for a gang of angry Luddites to set up an ambush for a machine. Plus presumably they get pizza.

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    Nullius in verba
  27. One can't help imagining... by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    ...convoys of armed thugs in stolen vehicles trailing along behind these things, secure in the knowledge that people will be coming out of their houses late at night to pick up a pizza at the curb.

    "Landshark Home Raiders" is a catchy name. Or maybe, "Su Casa Es Mi Casa, Inc."

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    I've calculated my velocity with such exquisite precision that I have no idea where I am.
  28. That's kinda what happens now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...with current delivery of pizza. One two ton vehicle and an obese driver to deliver a pizza.

  29. Domino's? Better make at home or go to a restauran by havana9 · · Score: 1

    There are nuve pizza ovens and breadmakers that make the job easier.
    I suppose that making a full automated pizza machine is possible and easier than a self driving veichle.
    Or going actually to an Italian restaurant to eat pizzas, oer even ask a these restaurans to delive could and is a better option.

  30. Are you pro choice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Think twice about supporting dominos, owner donates to anti abortion causes
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/dominos.asp

    1. Re:Are you pro choice? by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      I really dont give a shit. Im really not pro choice, Im definitely not anti-abortion. Im a libertarian and dont really give a shit what someone does or doesnt do to themselves. All I really ask is that I don't have to pay for someone else's mistake. If someone needs a suction DNC for heath reasons/complications, or because they got raped, sure. I don't even mind paying for Plan-B or that shot that works the first 12 weeks because its relatively inexpensive. Outpatient surgery with anesthesia and a medical staff in an operating room because someone was not responsible enough to take the pill and/or use Plan-B, or even get the shot after they found out they were pregnant, should probably have to pay for that mistake. This can run into several thousand dollars. If I get drunk and trash a few tables in a bar, I would be expected to pay for that mistake. I dont see how this is different. By most 'pro choice' groups, they would most likely put me on a list for anti-abortion too. The truth is I just dont give a shit and never question legality, only who needs to foot the bill for their circumstances. "You made your bed, now lie in it" used to be an expression at one point in time. Erasing any and all consequences, including financial, really doesn't prevent them from being more careful the next time. But one thing I won't do, as a libertarian, is make business choices of who I pay based on whatever personal beliefs they have. Its their damn right to be anti-abortion as much as its my right to be 'dont give a shit'. As long as they sell me a reasonable product at a reasonable price, and arent putting dead fetus' on the damn pizza, why should I care? If you use this same metric to hold EVERYONE accountable for any sort of ethics you disagree with you'll find that not only would you not buy service from anyone, you probably wouldn't work for anyone either. There hasn't been a single candidate for ANY political office in the last 50 years that has not been some sort of son-of-a-bitch in one fashion or another. If you've cast a vote, by your own account, your a hypocrite.

          By the way the link you provided says FALSE, that they dont contribute to that group, only the founder has. Guess what? I eat unbreaded chicken patties from chick-fil-a too! Why? did I mention I really dont give a shit? If you're going to cite a reference wouldn't it make sense that you cite one that supports your argument instead of contradicting it?

  31. Re:Domino's? Better make at home or go to a restau by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I suppose that making a full automated pizza machine is possible and easier than a self driving veichle.

    Obviously it is, because there's a variety of frozen pizza options at your local supermarket which prove it. But on the other hand, that equipment may be too expensive for a pizzeria to purchase and maintain. Self-driving cars are coming to everyone, sooner or later.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  32. Food brought to them by DrYak · · Score: 1

    They're hungry. If they weren't, they wouldn't have ordered a pizza. Odds are that they'll walk out to the curb to get it.

    On the other hand, they didn't go take the pizza themselves from some take-away (= actually very popular here around at several italian restaurants. much better quality than Domino, btw).

    Instead they specifically order that the food be brought to their place.

    The reasons that they choose not to go out to a take-away might still apply and be reasons not to get to the car.

    e.g.: they live in an upper floor of a stairs-only/no-elevator appartment complex, or the elevator is broken, and they can't walk easily (one leg still in a plaster cast after some accident).

    I can see several situations where "you need to walk out to the car" defies the whole idea of getting your food delivered to your door.

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    "Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
  33. Domino'b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Personally I wouldn't eat one if they delivered it with seven virgins on a full moon night.
    But for people who like it, cool.

  34. to expenive by luther349 · · Score: 1

    the issue is cost much like there fleet delivery cars that have ovens very few will actually ever be ordered by franchise owners.

    1. Re:to expenive by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      the issue is cost much like there fleet delivery cars that have ovens very few will actually ever be ordered by franchise owners.

      Those cars only have warming ovens, which interestingly reuse at least one rear seat heating element (I'd guess they actually use all of them but I haven't looked into it far enough to find out.) This meant only having to do a bit of rearrangement work to complete the electrical system. They also stopped making them after a very short run. What percentage of them do you think have been delivered to franchises?

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:to expenive by luther349 · · Score: 1

      it was like 1 car to select stores. and it falls back to my original point the cost of the cars was to great. now they want a more expensive self driving car with more expensive gear that once again nobody will buy like they said its like 1 little area there covering. they just do this to get media attention for viral advertising. the cost of them pobly would be more then hiring a driver for 5 years.

    3. Re:to expenive by e3m4n · · Score: 1

      The car cost is unknown because we do not know exactly what the final vehicle will look like. If its driverless it will essentially be a warming oven with 4 wheels, a motor, a battery, gps, and driving software. Probably something smaller and lighter than a SMART car (no NHTSA requirements) but yet big enough people cant pick it up and run off with it to scrap for parts. What if it only costs $3k? Domino's was the first major chain to roll out delivery and for a while they purchased a fleet of chevy s-10's for the drivers to use. Drivers using their own cars came about later.

  35. You're in the U.K.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've seen what passes for "cuisine" in your country, it's horrible. No one in in Britannia should be slagging others cuisine, with what you people eat.

  36. The fatal flaw in this plan by JohnFen · · Score: 1

    The fatal flaw with this plan is that customers end up with Domino's pizza instead of one that is actually good.

  37. Dear Dominos by whitroth · · Score: 1

    If I order from you, and send it by self-driving vehicle with no human, I will not accept it.

    Of course, this just demonstrates how STOOOPID you are. If Dominos, and similar businesses do this, then what jobs are folks going to have to make money to order?

    Henry Ford, Sr., decided to pay the employees on the assembly line enough so that they could buy what they built in a couple of years. You like that idea... but assume other companies will pick up for what you REFUSE to do.

    Screw you. I do not suffer fools gladly, and this , most definitely, defines you as fools.

  38. Ford and Domino's Plan to Break the Law? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Front and Front-Side window tint is illegal in michigan under MCL 257.709

  39. What's next? by Macdude · · Score: 1

    So I have to come out to the car that's parked somewhere nearby to pick up my pizza? What's next? Do I have to come down to the shop where they make it and pick it up there?

    There is something wrong with a society that is focused on ways to eliminate people from being part of it. I don't know how to solve that issue...

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    "Grab them by the pussy" -- President of the United States of America
  40. Special Instructions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bring it around the back, we are in the hot tub.

    What a pain in the ass, I if I wanted to go get it I wouldn't have asked you to bring it to me in the first place. It's like asking your 2 yr old to bring you something.

  41. Window tint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > an engineer and a driver will be in the car -- but the windows will be heavily tinted so customers can't see them

    Side and rear windows are one thing, but I was under the impression that it's pretty much illegal in all states to have *any* sort of tint on the windshield.

    (If the purpose of the window tint is to have them so dark as to hide the fact that there's actually people in the car, then the windshield has to be tinted as well...otherwise it's pretty much useless)

  42. Technology of self-driving vehicles: Not ready. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    "... customers finding ways to bypass the payment step."

    Free pizza for hackers?

    "The big problem is probably going to be that the technology to navigate a target rich environment without hitting anything/anybody doesn't exist and is probably going to be way harder to develop than most folks think."

    That seems correct to me. The technology of self-driving vehicles seems to me to be far from ready for common use.

  43. Pity the Middle Aged Women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pity the Middle Aged Women who "forgot" they ordered Pizza, and just happen to be "in the shower" when the Pizza delivery guy arrives, and they "drop" their towel when paying.

    Years ago in Reseda, I was a "Pizza Man, He Delivers", I know what I'm talking about.

    Yeah... they all gonna miss dat.