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US Employers Struggle To Match Workers With Open Jobs (npr.org)

In the United States, there's a record number of jobs open: around 6 million. That's just about one job opening for every officially unemployed person in the country. From a report: Matching the unemployed with the right job is difficult, but there are some things employers could do to improve the odds. Andrew Chamberlain, chief economist for the job site Glassdoor, says U.S. employers often complain that workers don't have the skills needed for the jobs available. That is true for some upper-level health care and technology jobs. "But for the most part, it doesn't look to be like there is a skills gap," Chamberlain says. "That's not the main reason why there are many job openings." Chamberlain says that with unemployment so low and the U.S. labor force growing slowly, there's no doubt it is harder for companies to find workers. But he says if that were the main problem, you would see wages rising more rapidly in the economy -- and that's not the case in many industries. Part of the hiring problem, Chamberlain says, lies in company hiring policies.

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  1. On the Job Training by krisyan · · Score: 5, Informative

    There is on the job training funds (and training funds in general) available through the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act. You can access them by visiting your local Career One Stop or Workforce center. https://www.careeronestop.org/

    1. Re: On the Job Training by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Has more to do with the terms of hire. I work in the IT industry and my last 5 jobs have all been contract with the dangling carrot of full time hire / conversion.

      I'm 35, married for a year and really done with contracting. I need a full time position, health benefits and some type of 401k for it to be viable for me. Not a 3 month contract, not a 22 month contract but even a 2 year. I'm looking to set down roots and grow with a company. Plenty of loyal employees with no reasons to be loyal

    2. Re:On the Job Training by sycodon · · Score: 5, Informative

      HR: " We need someone with 5 years experience with Tech A, 10 years with Tech b, and two years with Tech C"

      Recruiter: "Tech C has only been available for 1 year"

      HR: "That's what the manager said"

      Recruiter: "I have someone who's been in the Industry for 30 years, has 10 years in Tech A, 20 years with Tech B, but only six months with Tech C."

      HR: "Sorry, we can't use him."

      Lest you think I jest. I saw this in person.

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    3. Re:On the Job Training by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In my experience they know that their spec is unrealistic, and are just using it as an excuse. An excuse to offer less money, or dismiss candidates they dislike but can't legally give the real reason why (age, race etc.)

      If they offered me the position but at a lower salary due to lack of experience, I'd just call their bluff tell them to go with the candidate who has more experience. It's not like there is a shortage of tech jobs around here at the moment.

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    4. Re:On the Job Training by peragrin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It gets better outside of tech.

      We want a bachelors degree with 5 or more years experience in unique field and the pay rate is $40,000 to $45,000.

      Do they realize that a bachelors degree is 4 times that amount? Nope we set our wages in 1990 and haven't adjusted them since. This is the bigger issue companies want to pay 1990 wages in 2017. Changing that is the difficult part.

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    5. Re:On the Job Training by thevirtualcat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also fairly common:

      HR: "We need someone with 5 years experience with Tech A, 10 years with Tech b, and two years with Tech C."
      Recruiter/Candidate: "Okay, (we can find that|that's me). What's the rate?"
      HR: "We pay $12/hour. No benefits or overtime."
      Recruiter/Candidate: "Thanks, but no thanks."
      HR: "Woe is us, we can't find anyone to fill this position!"

  2. Pay More Money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If only there was a way to motivate American workers to apply for jobs? Oh well, I guess more immigration/H1Bs is the only solution.

    1. Re:Pay More Money by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Same here in parts of Europe. For a couple of years now, companies are screaming for qualified IT staff, but wages haven't increased with this supposed demand and lack of supply. And more telling: fee rates for IT freelancers haven't increased either.

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    2. Re:Pay More Money by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I make a 6 figure salary; it's hard to find jobs which pay more out in total compensation than I make today. That said, paying me more base salary/bonus, at this point in my career, is not even close to important.

      What is important, you ask?

      1. Flexibility
      2. Vacation
      3. Insurance cost
      4. Opportunity
      5. Freedom to operate
      6. Interesting work

      There are others, but you get the general idea. That said, I had a job interview elsewhere, recently, where the recruiter reached out to me and basically begged me to come into speak with them. The position has been open for 11 months and they cannot find anyone. Yeah, the pay is lower than I make today and the insurance is 2x the cost, but the real problem was that it was an institution where there was no flexibility or freedom to operate. They wanted something done to solve their problems but had a very narrow allowed view on how that could occur.

      Just like others who likely passed before me, it was probably due to the environment, not the pay. At some point, money stops being a motivator.

    3. Re:Pay More Money by Luthair · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh no, corporations only follow capitalism when they're the sellers. The rest of the time they want to suckle at the public teat.

    4. Re:Pay More Money by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Depends. 20% more and fully funding my insurance contribution is great.

      But if I'm working in an open floor-plan for a boss that doesn't know his ass from his elbow at a company that has some shady business practices and they've had a ton of turnover recently and everybody who works there seems really miserable? My mental health is worth more than a 20% raise, thank you.

  3. TL;DR by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Zombie 'openings' that expect senior rock-star level experience for H1-B level wages. Pay more. Train people. KTHXBYE.

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    1. Re:TL;DR by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You see that outside of the technical fields as well. My area is in a construction boom, and I'm constantly seeing local job postings looking for journeyman carpenter, journeymen electrician, skilled concrete workers, and so forth, and while they don't usually post the wages, I hear through the grapevine that these companies are often paying totally shit wages, and what's more, so sustained is the building boom that anyone who is an actual tradesman is their goddamned competitor, and you only get the tradesmen who are washed up drunks willing to work for those wages and, well, you get what you pay for. Meanwhile there are people who are either apprentices or who would like to be, but the companies don't want to hire them, or if they do, just want them as minimum wage laborers and don't want to do anything to help them along.

      We've entered this age where companies in all industries want people with huge amounts of skills and talent, but they don't want to pay them what they're worth, and worse, in a way, don't want to give entry-level people a leg up and into the industry. And then they bitch and whine and demand allowing foreign workers in because "worker shortage", a shortage, by and large, that the industries themselves have created, either intentionally to drive wages down, or unintentionally, because they want these magic employees with boatloads of skills who just love to work for peanuts.

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  4. Alternative Title: by bobstreo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "US Employers struggle to find workers willing to be paid minimum wage, part time with no benefits."

  5. Drugs by ghoul · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The main reason companies are unable to fill low skill positions is that they have strict drug check programs where if marijuana is in your blood you are an automatic fail even if you smoked on the weekend and its legal in your state to smoke recreationally.
    Companies need to change their drug screening processes to match with the reality of American society where almost all poor people are doing drugs

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    1. Re:Drugs by Bozzio · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can't tell if you're kidding.

      I've been smoking marijuana on and off for almost 20 years now. I'm not addicted, and I've never been tempted to smoke during the work day or even the night before work. My clients have always been happy with my work and past clients even reach out to me asking me to come back (I'm a software contractor). I'm known for being reliable, quick thinking, creative, and productive.

      All that to say: Your idea of what smoking a bit of marijuana is outdated.

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    2. Re:Drugs by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do you equate "used marijuana within the last weeK" with "drug addict"? Are your opinions based on Reefer Madness?

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    3. Re:Drugs by Bozzio · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How is it a contradiction? I've been smoking "on and off." I've gone several consecutive *years* where I haven't smoked. I also never have any difficulty stopping (in fact, stopping is easier than starting as it's hard to find where I live).

      None of that sounds like addiction to me. Maybe we have different definitions of addiction.

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    4. Re:Drugs by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Okay...last time I checked, bus adverts were not a particularly reliable source of information.

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  6. Ironically, economy not that great by HBI · · Score: 5, Interesting

    150-180k net jobs created per month is not good at all. 300k/month used to be the gold standard for robust growth. The anemic Obama economy got people used to this, but by pre-2008 standards, this is a mild recession right now.

    If the business were out there to justify it, people would be willing to pay higher salaries to lure in workers. The fact they aren't tells you the truth about what I said above - the economy is not that great.

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  7. Employers are full of shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, just read the summary.

    Back in '08 when the shit hit the fan, I was told, "Just get a job waiting tables! It'll show that you have gumption!!"

    So, I went to the local bar and grill who was looking for help and applied. Sorry, we need someone who has had at least 5 years of RECENT experience.

    The local landscaper (professional lawn mowing company) asked me, "Do you have experience in this line of work."
    Now, how to answer that. "Uh, how hard is it to mow lawns?!" or "No sir, I do not."

    Well, they are both wrong answers. (BTW, working beneath you skills ruins your career. All those folks who said, "Get a job flipping burgers to pay your mortgage!" were wrong. If you did that, you ruined your career. YOU ARE YOUR LAST JOB. And if that's flipping burgers, then you are a burger flipper - sorry Mr. BS CS. Been there - I know.)

    Tech is even more retarded. I once recommended this brilliant ENGINEER (BS ME - a REAL engineer) who had tons of experience with the company's technology.

    Nope. "Sorry, you don't fit in to our corporate culture."

    Kiss my fucking ass. EVERY company that says they cannot get qualified people are liars. Period.

    1. Re:Employers are full of shit. by Herkum01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The day after companies can effectively evaluate technical schools, they can evaluate company culture fit. Otherwise there is always one jerk at the table saying "I don't like him or personality" whenever they feel threatened.

  8. Economics 101 by sphealey · · Score: 3, Funny

    Economics 101 says a labor shortage is not possible - employers need only raise offered wages until all positions are filled. What went wrong? Econ 101 explanations seem to be highly satisfactory when the job market is on the way down (in a recession for example).

  9. Did anyone read the article? by StevenMaurer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I pop in here to the comment section, and read a bunch of people angrily talking about how there really not being an job opening problem, just that "employers are full of shit".

    Here's the thing. That's what the article says. Let me be helpful to you, and quote it:

    Part of the hiring problem, Chamberlain says, lies in company hiring policies.

    Peter Cappelli, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School, agrees. He says one problem is that companies are posting openings with required qualifications that aren't really necessary for the job.

    "They're just asking for the moon, and not expecting to pay very much for it," Cappelli says. "And as a result they [can't] find those people. Now that [doesn't] mean there was nobody to do the job; it just [means] that there was nobody at the price they were willing to pay."

    Come on people! Read!

  10. I like the way it was done overseas by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 5, Insightful

    when I was young. The gov't placed you in a job, and paid for your training/education, and the company got a tax break until you were up to snuff. Kept unemployment low, and people happy.
    I don't see why this can't be done here.

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  11. Re:Warning: May cause triggering by danbert8 · · Score: 4, Funny

    My HR department is about a 50-50 split between men and women. And they are all equally useless...

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  12. Companies are Unrealistic by Herkum01 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I had 2 phone interviews without any depth to them and over in a few minutes. The reason why? They were stuck on looking for a specific skill and if you did not have it, you were done.

    The first failed on AWS, oh you have not worked with AWS? Sorry, we are not going forward. It was not a matter if I understood networking, or servers or administration or any of the 50 tools that AWS promises, no direct experience, interview over. Not only that, they ended up hiring nobody!

    The second one was Scrum and Continuous Integration, have not done either, interview is over (over in 2 minutes with pleasantries). They don't even try to evaluate your skills, or your thought process or even if you are capable.

    It seems like they cannot even be bothered to try and get someone to be productivity and thejob salaries are not great either, just average. If companies were really desperate they would be more aggressive but I think they are just cruising along, not really competing or losing ground. When they become greedy or desperate that is when you will see change.

    Note: In reference to AWS, I took an online course on AWS after the interview. It was powerful, not hard but broad. Certainly not as hard as working with specific hardware that implements the same features.

  13. Re:so stop by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've been drinking soda on and off my whole life.

    Why don't you stop using the Internet and never start again to prove that you're not addicted?

  14. The myth that employers care... by zarmanto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If corporations cared at all about unemployment, they already know exactly what they could do to remedy that problem: Let the cream rise to the top. That is to say, offer additional training to existing highly skilled employees, so that they can easily qualify for the next job up the ladder, and then move them up. Then fill the now vacant lower level jobs with people who are presently unemployed and living on the street (or in their parents basement). The newly hired wage earners will be thrilled just to have a job at all, and won't be quite as picky about how much they're earning, and the highly skilled workers will be thrilled to get the raise, and to be recognized for their contributions.

    The problem, as I see it, is that far too many companies are more interested in the bottom line than in anything else. And one of the easiest ways to turn a profit is (and always has been) to milk existing employees for all that they're worth for as long as possible, and make them do tasks above their pay level, because they "can't find anyone qualified for that position, right now"... which basically causes that old adage, "You have to move out to move up," to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. I've moved out because of that, myself. If you're in the workforce at all, you've probably done it, too.

    And here's where it gets even more frustrating: the "requirements" for any given position do not remain static. It's quite common for employers to adjust the requirements based upon the skillset of the person who just left that position. "Hey, Ralph became a freaking genius at SharePoint while he was working for us. We can't possibly hire someone who knows less than him, now! Change that job req for his position to include senior SharePoint experience, okay? Years of experience? I dunno... how long did Ralph work here? That long? Really?"

    And thus, the position that Ralph left -- specifically because he was being underpaid for the skills he'd gained over his years there -- is now entirely un-fillable. Because nobody with those skills would take the job, at the offered pay.

    Employers shoot themselves in the foot like that, all too often. My previous employer did it, too... that's why they're my previous employer. And over the past few weeks, I've sat by and watched as my up-line supervisor is being run through the beginnings of the scenario I've described above... so I would imagine she's currently evaluating her options.

    The wheel turns, and the cycle repeats itself.

  15. Can we stop with this bullshit? by PortHaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We have millions of job openings. See...

    Job 1: Social Worker - Must have master's degree. Salary $35,000/year.
    [Translation, must be someone who did not get their degree in the U.S. because there is no way one can pay for a master's on $35K/year.]

    Job 2: Warehouse $12-$14/hr. Flexible hours (either 60 or 20, but not 40). $29,000 a year...with little prospect of moving up. Maybe $17/hr after you've been there 10 years. Support your family on THAT!

    Job 3: IT Position $60K a year in major urban city requiring you to live in very expensive housing, the slums, or outside of the city requiring 2-3 hours commuting a day. Please note, we understand that between your commute, mortgage, family, and student loans, that this salary is not sustainable for you. However, it allows us to employ an IT engineer from India, seeing as they do not have a several hundred a month student loan payment.

  16. Stop recruiting w/Job description exp by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem is HR wants someone in percise wording that matches the job description with years of experience and rather be understaffed than take a risk. Worse, they use software programs to do the work for them which filter 100% of all the qualified candidates out.

    This is why the H1B1 visa is popular. It is not about cost savings anymore. It is the Indian firms will lie and make a resume that matches the description as no American can do the job etc.

    In the old days if you had 7 years of experience in programming in one language and doing the same work then you can learn another language in a similair role etc. NOT today! You need to have ONLY that language. Worse, you can have the same language AND same kind of work experience but still be not qualified. It is because your coverletter and resume didn't have the keyword % of the descriptions. Or you have done it for 10 years, but your last position where you have 3 years experience doesn't touch what the job entails so therefore you are not qualified.

    What needs to change is managers need to do the filtering and not HR and God FORBID do not use Taleo to filter out resumes first. You will get liars and Indians and just because I have done a job for 5 years doesn't mean I am any good.

    Competence is job title and projects you work on. Not based on how many years you did the same tasks which is all HR looks at. I would take a senior software engineer who did design work in another language or different tasks then to pick a mediocre guy who only did 5 years experience in the same tasks over and over which HR would choose.

  17. Re:I'm hiring... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Funny

    Position: Internet Application Developer
    Salary $250K-$350K

    REQUIREMENTS: Must have 5+ years of HTML6 experience, and be familiar with Windows 12.

    I have a team in Bangalore who has that. We can offer you a rate much smaller and our salesmen can show you how to use it as a tax right off so it is free where you do not have to pay benefits.

  18. The "struggle" is definitely NOT real. by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear Hiring Managers Everywhere,

    I've been hired and have had to do the hiring. I know the drill. So, you want good candidates? Do the following:

    1) Get HR out of the loop. HR, as you know, isn't where the brain trust of the company lives. They also tend to be lazy. Result? They're using keywords to exclude resumes. If you don't say, "Agile" on your resume, you sink out of sight, even if you've been working in an Agile environment for years. Keyword based systems are an utter, abysmal, total fail.

    2) Don't throw every skill you can think of into your ad. Otherwise good candidates who may not have ever used say, Jira (which takes all of about 15 minutes to learn), are excluded. Pick a few of the core ones. You want someone who can teach themselves. That's as or more important than experience in any specific technology.

    3) Understand that you'll have to train and that this will take time. Nobody's going to have everything. If they lie enough to claim they do, well... good luck.

    4) If you have a thoughtlessly hacked together toolset that includes, VB6, F#, Erhang, Perl, a collection of proprietary, obscure TLAs and BrainFuck 2, you'll probably have to hire two or three people, instead of the 1 you could have hired to maintain a standard LAMP or Windows stack.

    5) What you really want is a 20 year old kid with 30 years of experience who'll work 60 hours a week for 40,000 a year. Guess what? You won't find that person. If you do, don't expect him to stick around. If your manager(s) don't/won't understand that, your company is doomed. Polish up your resume and start looking.

    6) Fix your application software. If you get a resume, do not make anybody fill in all that redundant information again, get disgusted and stop. Don't ask the address, web site, and supervisor phone number of the company that died in the dot com crash of 2001. It wastes everyone's time and make you look like idiots.

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