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Microsoft Extends Free Windows 10 S-To-Pro Upgrade Deadline (betanews.com)
BrianFagioli shares a report from BetaNews: Windows 10 S is a really great idea in theory. By limiting the operating system to applications from the Windows Store, it could make users safer. After all, it should limit the potential of malware since users can't download and install questionable things from the web. Of course, this will only be successful if there is a good library of apps, and I am sorry to say, the Windows Store is a failure in that regard. The biggest selling point for Windows is legacy program compatibility. Once you take that away, there isn't much left. Thankfully, the company is giving complimentary upgrades from Windows 10 S to Windows 10 Pro until the end of 2017. This will allow a person or organization to easily recover from mistakenly buying into Windows 10 S if it doesn't meet their needs. Today, however, as a sign of weakness, Microsoft extends this deadline. Buried at the end of a blog post about Surface Laptop colors, Microsoft drops the following bombshell: "For those that find they need an application that isn't yet available in the Store and must be installed from another source, we're extending the ability to switch from Windows 10 S to Windows 10 Pro for free until March 31, 2018. We hope this provides increased flexibility for those people searching for the perfect back-to-school or holiday gift." Why do I say this is a sign of weakness? Well, if the Windows 10 S experiment was going well, Microsoft would have no need to extend the deadline. In other words, if users were truly buying into and enjoying the "S" experience, we wouldn't see such an announcement. The fact that the company seemingly tried to hide this news is quite telling too. Ultimately, it signals a lack of confidence in Windows 10 S.
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Windows 10 Sucker edition ought to be good enough for anyone who enjoys being lightly screwed.
From an OS that sucks to one that sucks a little less.
"A sign of weakness"? Really? This is a decision by a multinational corporation, not a dog in heat. What kind of idiot wrote that?
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I want functionality from Windows 98 back. Toolbars that actually worked and a more customizable File Manager.
Do they have a Windows DACA?
Hey, I can dream, can't I?
The same reason Windows RT failed. People buy Windows for the large application install base. Even not being able to run Chrome and be forced to use Edge is enough to not use Windows 10 S.
Microsoft has generously decided to extend their offer of infecting you with Ebola until 2018, in order for laggards to get to experience the unique disease at no cost to themselves.
Being given an opportunity to use Microsoft software is like being given an opportunity to eat gravel. It's free-ish and all, but why would you?
With Windows 10 self destructing and thereby loosening their grip on the OS market, Microsoft's solid revenue drivers are down to Xbox, Office lock-in and cloud services. Not the end of the world but it has to be highly unsettling that they constantly get their asses kicked technically. The self-inflicted wounds are just salt on the cut.
What's the next thing they're going to screw up?
Captcha: predict
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It's basically useless.
Because nobody wants this S/It.
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The S is for Sucks.
that's right, my DAMN balls for you to suck
On that note, "S-To-Pro" may have dangerous connotations for the Portuguese-speaking...
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The whole point, as I understood it, with Windows 10 S, was to bring Windows 10 to low spec hardware in an attempt to compete with Chromebooks?
If the only way of competing is to say "Yeah, the OS is crap cus our app store is crap. As a compromise, here's an OS that requires higher spec hardware than you have", surely all you end up with is a crap user experience?
With Windows 10 S hardware and software, you can either have a good Windows 10 S experience, and accept there's no software available (ultimately a crappy experience), or have a crap Windows 10 Pro experience...
Windows S should really just be an option at install for Win Pro, called "Locked down for businesses and schools", which lets you edit group policies and what not straight from the installer, that nobody will ever use since they will do one machine, ghost it and paste it on all their computers.
And really, it should allow the option to install softwares from outside the store through an administrative password, so that businesses and schools can still install their "proprietary" softwares. It shouldn't be a consumer OS at all.
Basically, it should not exist, because Windows S's locked down crap can already be done through group policies.
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Metro apps (a highly restricted sandboxed application) were renamed "Windows Store Apps". It is difficult to know from the marketing hype, but I think that the store only supports Metro except for the exceptions, which would make it largely useless.
Stuff that doesn't matter.
But I guess there could be someone with a Windows Phone and Windows 10 S reading /. and might care... But they are probably both playing Pokemon Go on the school playground.
The thing is I only heard of it on Slashdot, and I assure you that most people don't go to nerds sites.
It's very likely that most people in the market for Windows 10 S or normal or Pro aren't aware that Windows 10 S exists, or what it's for or what's the difference.
And they might be right since this may be useless information as everything changes in a couple years again anyway. Maybe not this time, but remember when the latest thing was "Windows 8.1 Update 1"? where's Windows 8.1 Update 2, nowhere to be found.
Now people are starting a new school year, etc.
They might get a Windows 10 S, although I know of no such devices except one Microsoft Surface lapblettop computer and only that one.
It's bad form to press them with a "life and death" choice about their hardware and software and not even leaving them decent time to inform themselves about it.
Many people don't install anything at all, or they install something like chrome setup.exe but will be discouraged and get over it when it fails to run on their Windows 10 S. A much smaller portion might actually use the app store.
But when such people get e.g. a printer and scanner combo around Christmas then they suddenly want to install something, be it a warez photoshop version, a legit program (might also be Libre Office etc.) or the CD that came with the printer/scanner combo.
If you leave these people stranded because the offer expired two days ago, you'll piss them off.
that's right, my DAMN balls for you to suck
On that note, "S-To-Pro" may have dangerous connotations for the Portuguese-speaking...
Yeah, disgusting.
Please explain
While $50 isn't that much if you've bought a $1500 Windows Laptop, if for a user who purchases a $200 laptop and suddenly needs to pay another $50 in order to use the applications they need - that user isn't going to be happy.
Except you can't app apps with Appdows 10 S. Currently, you need Visual Studio to app an app, and that isn't an app in Windows Store. This in fact makes macOS and Android appier than Appdows. Xcode is in Mac App Store, and AIDE is in Google Play Store.
Unless and until some sort of "Visu-app Studio" makes it up to Windows Store, AP Computer Science courses will continue to "need an application that isn't yet available in the Store and must be installed from another source."
I think that the store only supports Metro except for the exceptions
Then I foresee a lot of exceptions. Windows Store supports both Universal Windows Platform (UWP) apps, which are the apps formerly associated with the "Metro" name, and Desktop Bridge apps, which use a safe subset of the Win32 API. Thus Win32 apps can be packaged for Windows Store using Desktop Bridge, provided they aren't a web browser, game emulator, programming tool, system utility, companion app for a custom peripheral, or other specialized apps that exceed Desktop Bridge's limits or violate Windows Store Policies.
As if everyone who had any contact with the Windows Store didn't know this was comming.
I'll tell you why Microsoft is extending the deadline: because Windows Store is a piece of shit, horrible crappy experience that no one should be subjected to and it should've been euthanized together with Windows Phones and Surface RT a long loooong time ago.
Microsoft is trying to escape liability for selling an overpriced underpowered hardware that comes with a OS that makes the entire thing less useful than a smartphone.
I dunno who the shit for brains was that put the Windows 10S monstrosity in practice, but it's insisting on an error that had so much insisting in the past years that I frankly don't even know what to take from it anymore. It's downright cult-like fanatical brainwashed stuff.
If Microsoft went back to the drawing board, started developing an entire other OS from nothing, they'd still have something better today even if it also wasn't stellar by any modern metrics.
And I'm only saying this as someone who had a Windows Phone, and had to deal with that store in the past with a Windows tablet that came with Windows 8. It is worse than Apple Store and Google Play Store in almost everything. In fact, even for novice users I'd recomment Ubuntu over it. Sure, you'll be hard pressed to find some novice level support and help for Linux in general, but at least you'll find something. Windows Store doesn't even have that because no one uses it.
Oh, and that talk about the Store getting better overtime, about it offering a more secure environment, about devs eventually coming to make apps for it, and about it being the future? Microsoft has been preaching that crap for years and years now. Back when Nokia was still it's own company.
... the only life form without a pro subscription may soon break.
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Windows 10 S is a really great idea in theory.
I wasn't aware that Microsoft's approval dictating what software I can and cannot use on the hardware I am supposed to own was a good thing. Shall I outsource my critical thinking functions to Facebook, then?
You want windows 10 walled off aka 10 s
I am currently upgrading my main computer. Although I don't use too hardware-intensive software like new games and my usual memory/CPU requirements are acceptably low, I do spend a lot of time in front of the computer and perform a quite demanding job; so, I do want a responsive and reliable hardware. Long story short: I bought a quite powerful computer with Intel i7-7700. I have always been mostly using Windows and even develop on .NET; despite relying on Linux for secondary machines and my webservers, I was always planning to install Windows (at least, in one of the partitions) on this new computer, expected to become my main machine at work.
.NET work or about having gradually got used to relying on tons of Windows-only programs for performing virtually any action. I am still not even sure what I will be doing in all the fronts. I will certainly be relying on Windows, but only on secondary machines and when strictly required (e.g., having to develop something on a .NET language).
I got the hardware without OS, installed a paid Windows 7 Professional copy which I have been using for a while and got ready to notably improve my work conditions (I haven't upgraded my main computer in some years; my previous one was quite powerful though). But the whole process was completely different than what I was expecting: everything was behaving really weirdly since the very first moment (mouse/keyword not working properly, everything being too slow and similar weirdnesses; note that I have done tons of fresh installs on these lines with different Windows/Linux versions on different machines and never saw something on these lines) most of the attached drivers didn't work (some of them even provoked the brand-new computer to hang and forced me to unplug it!) by claiming that the expected hardware couldn't be found! I wasn't able to make the graphic card work and this entire process was done with the very-bothering 800*600 resolution in a pretty big monitor! I downloaded many different versions of drivers and hardware-recognising applications (-> the hardware was certainly there) from intel.com. I firstly got quite pissed with the guy selling me the hardware because of thinking that this wasn't what I bought. But then I realised about the problem: that new powerful CPU (including things like the graphic card) was only supporting Windows 10!! I confirmed that assumption firstly with a quick online research (even tried some of the suggestions given in some forums, but nothing worked) and definitively by installing a Linux distro where my new hardware was immediately working as expecting (= marvelously!).
This is the first time after having been using Windows for quite a few years when I cannot install a relatively-recent version of Windows on new hardware!! Technically, I can run that hardware with Windows 7, but it is extremely faulty, slow and with a horrible graphical experience (I could increase the 800*600 resolution but, for my monitor, the higher ones were even worse); so, I can actually not run that new hardware with Windows other than 10 without converting that powerful machine in pure crap. On the other hand, I was able to install any Linux distro and start enjoying all that hardware right away!! I made my decision in that same moment: moving to Linux as my first operation system, certainly the one installed on my main machine. I don't care about all my
Note that I did install Windows 10 when it was firstly released. I tested it during some weeks and even got a pretty good first impression; but it still was too unreliable on exchange of minor visual enhancements and that's why I quickly decided to temporarily move back to Windows 7. Then, I started hearing about all these attempts at forcibly installing Windows 10 (I had to expressly disable the nagging updates on my Windows-7 computer!) and stopped considering the eventuality of trying it again within the short term. And now, I discover that they are trying to force me to use Windows 10 with all
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Had to laugh at that malware line. "Windows Store should limit the potential of malware".
Considering the significant lack of attention that administrators of all 3 stores pay to malware embedded in their apps, this theory about limiting malware has turned out to be total bullshit in practice. I think I'm better off NOT risking downing apps from the store, because there is no reasonable assurance they're not compromised with malware, ad injectors, telemetry, or other data scraping.
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