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Windows 10 Will Soon Give Users More Control Over App Permissions (engadget.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: The software giant has revealed that you'll get much more control over what apps are allowed to do with your device. Where you previously only had control over location sharing, the Fall Creators Update will ask you to grant permission before accessing all kinds of potentially sensitive hardware and software features. It'll ask to use your camera and microphone if you have a video recording app, for instance, or check before offering access to your calendar and contacts. You'll only get these prompts for apps installed after you move to the Fall Creators Update; you'll have to dive into your privacy settings to review permissions for apps you already have. Even so, it's an important boost to Windows' privacy security levels. Much as on phones, where fine-grained permissions are already fairly commonplace, you might not have to worry as much about malicious apps spamming your contacts or hijacking the camera.

76 comments

  1. Basically less granular SELinux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and you probably can't set permissions for integrated software like the natural language command interface

    1. Re:Basically less granular SELinux by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Of course, you still can't turn off sending whatever data Microsoft feels like it wants to Microsoft...

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  2. I can hear the cries already by enjar · · Score: 1, Funny

    Why can't they just make it work like Windows XP did? It never asked me about permissions or for administrator access when I installed 500 toolbars, bonzi buddy and cool customized cursor packs and it was all just fine.

    1. Re:I can hear the cries already by coastwalker · · Score: 2

      Hey suckers you carry on using Apps and the rest of us over 50 will stick with conventional desktop applications. I imagine they already know when to start advertising funeral services to losers like you. At least for the moment Classic Shell hides all of these pieces of marketing malware in a drop-down menu that I have never bothered to explore. Though I have bothered to disable anything that they hook to in the settings. Enjoy your walled garden!

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    2. Re:I can hear the cries already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why can't they make it work like Windows 7? In Windows 7 I can grant different users and groups access to only the things they should have access to. In turn, I can make any application run under whatever permissions I want. Why the fuck is Windows 10 going backwards and taking control away from users?

      Also I see nothing in there about Windows 10 removing the spyware, removing the adware, restoring user control over updates or giving users the ability to purge worthless bloatware like "Windows Store", "Xbox" or "Cortona".

    3. Re:I can hear the cries already by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Of course people here over 40 fear change.

      Now they swear by 8 year old win 7 and are shocked it's become difficult to use on new hardware.

      Not sure if these statements are related to me in any way or not but as far as we had a recent chat on pretty similar lines, I would assume that it is the case and here I go, for me and for my generation :)

      Firstly, I am 39 and am not sure whether all the other people of my age feels like I do but am very far away from starting to feel afraid of any kind of innovation. Much less in anything related to computers and software because this is what my work is about; in fact, I am not precisely doing standard stuff but trying always to go a bit further, to innovate. My impression is that software-related people around my age with all what this entails (e.g., relevant amount of work experience, mostly related to software) is everything but scared of change, although the logical behaviour is to not change (only a fool believe that magical, working-perfectly new approaches can compete with actual knowledge, experience and being comfortable with certain conditions). Actually, having a relevant experience is a basic requirement for becoming proficient in the programming/software world, much more now with the increasingly big number of alternatives and higher complexity. In fact, experienced-enough people are usually more opinionated in the sense of objectively criticising/appraising, what might be somehow inconvenient for some theoretically-technical companies which seem to have moved from objective correctness into the fan-based world.

      Even by ignoring the experience/background/objectivity aspects, letting fear influence any relevant decisions sounds as a quite stupid behaviour. Assuming that certain person has performed whatever action, not because of a sensible reason, but because of something as childish as fear (to what?! To not knowing how to use increasingly easier formats?!) is almost an insult to that person; it is pretty much the same than arbitrarily calling that person an idiot. I don't know how it was back in your times (from your UID, your nick and the way in which talk, I presume that you are notably older than me), but my generation (the current 40-ers) has grown with computers and technology everywhere (like the younger ones, without the disadvantage of over-saturation and companies/movies trying to indoctrinate them into some kind of fanatic love for a company/product). I have been working on programming/engineering and completely into all this world for over 10 years, but some time before that my behaviour was completely different; people who met me 20 years ago might not even believe my current occupation/knowledge/likenesses; but even back then when I wasn't caring too much about all this, I was systematically surrounded by computers/software and never felt anything even close to fear to use a so idiot-proof piece of software as an operating system.

      What I saw the other day when trying to install my Windows 7 copy in my brand new computer wasn't scaring to me. I simply didn't like it. I don't have to like what Microsoft or any other company does. I don't have to be afraid of sharing my honest impression about what I don't like of a company whose products I consume (= I am their client = their everything = my voice has to matter to them, their voice is irrelevant to me). Additionally, if that company delivers the tools which I use in my highly-specialised work (almost my hobby too), where I am an expert, my opinion about their decisions should still be more relevant to them.

      I have been using Windows as my primary OS for quite a few years; I have used Linux quite a lot too, but always secondarily, never installed it my main machine, the one I use to perform my work. When I saw the problem I commented the other day, I decided to move to Linux in the same spot: moving to a completely different format without having thought about it even 1 hour before! This

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    4. Re:I can hear the cries already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course people here over 40 fear change.

      Now they swear by 8 year old win 7 and are shocked it's become difficult to use on new hardware.

      Not sure if these statements are related to me in any way or not but as far as we had a recent chat on pretty similar lines, I would assume that it is the case and here I go, for me and for my generation :)

      Firstly, I am 39 and am not sure whether all the other people of my age feels like I do but am very far away from starting to feel afraid of any kind of innovation. Much less in anything related to computers and software because this is what my work is about; in fact, I am not precisely doing standard stuff but trying always to go a bit further, to innovate. My impression is that software-related people around my age with all what this entails (e.g., relevant amount of work experience, mostly related to software) is everything but scared of change, although the logical behaviour is to not change (only a fool believe that magical, working-perfectly new approaches can compete with actual knowledge, experience and being comfortable with certain conditions). Actually, having a relevant experience is a basic requirement for becoming proficient in the programming/software world, much more now with the increasingly big number of alternatives and higher complexity. In fact, experienced-enough people are usually more opinionated in the sense of objectively criticising/appraising, what might be somehow inconvenient for some theoretically-technical companies which seem to have moved from objective correctness into the fan-based world.

      Even by ignoring the experience/background/objectivity aspects, letting fear influence any relevant decisions sounds as a quite stupid behaviour. Assuming that certain person has performed whatever action, not because of a sensible reason, but because of something as childish as fear (to what?! To not knowing how to use increasingly easier formats?!) is almost an insult to that person; it is pretty much the same than arbitrarily calling that person an idiot. I don't know how it was back in your times (from your UID, your nick and the way in which talk, I presume that you are notably older than me), but my generation (the current 40-ers) has grown with computers and technology everywhere (like the younger ones, without the disadvantage of over-saturation and companies/movies trying to indoctrinate them into some kind of fanatic love for a company/product). I have been working on programming/engineering and completely into all this world for over 10 years, but some time before that my behaviour was completely different; people who met me 20 years ago might not even believe my current occupation/knowledge/likenesses; but even back then when I wasn't caring too much about all this, I was systematically surrounded by computers/software and never felt anything even close to fear to use a so idiot-proof piece of software as an operating system.

      What I saw the other day when trying to install my Windows 7 copy in my brand new computer wasn't scaring to me. I simply didn't like it. I don't have to like what Microsoft or any other company does. I don't have to be afraid of sharing my honest impression about what I don't like of a company whose products I consume (= I am their client = their everything = my voice has to matter to them, their voice is irrelevant to me). Additionally, if that company delivers the tools which I use in my highly-specialised work (almost my hobby too), where I am an expert, my opinion about their decisions should still be more relevant to them.

      I have been using Windows as my primary OS for quite a few years; I have used Linux quite a lot too, but always secondarily, never installed it my main machine, the one I use to perform my work. When I saw the problem I commented the other day, I decided to move to Linux in the same spot: moving to a completely different format without having thought about it even 1 hour

    5. Re:I can hear the cries already by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      And if you are one of those who also has aero disabled and has the classic look here is what the kids think of it today :-)

    6. Re:I can hear the cries already by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      You can thank Intel for that. Not Microsoft. Remember USB 3.0 wasn't even invented yet when Windows 7 was made.

      It is a so difficult problem that even Intel (without access to the OS source code) has created its own solution.

      Microsoft gets paid by the seat licenses either way so it makes no difference.

      Because all what they did before with this stupidly imposing attitude made sense, right? Windows 10 seems to be a good version, perhaps even better than Windows 7; why not letting the product speak for itself? Why trying to force clients by scaring lots of them? Why they had everything on their side to have an excellent medium-/long-term evolution and they did what they did? Perhaps because they got nervous? Because the initial targets weren't met and some manager thought that forcing clients was a better idea than just being patient? A stupid decision. It doesn't make sense; exactly the same than Intel providing ways to use USB 3.0 with Windows 7, but not enabling it in their new machines. In any case and as said, I don't care about the final responsible, the underlying reason was Microsoft's decision of unilaterally imposing Windows 10 to everyone.

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    7. Re:I can hear the cries already by JohnFen · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't confuse hating change for worse with hating change in general.

    8. Re:I can hear the cries already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And? Kids lack knowledge, experience and wisdom. They have the least credibility out of anybody.

    9. Re:I can hear the cries already by The123king · · Score: 1

      Most kids. I'm 25 and am happiest sat in front of my Amiga, or toggling the switches on my PiDP-8

      Most kids today have grown up in a world with apps, smartphones and a complete disregard for data privacy, and i hate it with a passion. My iPhone won't even play music if it can't get a good 3G signal any more. That was a simple fix though, i took out the SIM card and put it in a Nokia 3310

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    10. Re:I can hear the cries already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All kids. I'm sorry but there is no shortcut to acquiring such things.

    11. Re:I can hear the cries already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WIndows 10 may well be a great operating system. But I don't want to have "telemetry" reporting. And I don't want crap like Cortana etc.

      As I can no longer customse Windows to fit *my* needs I have no use for it. So I'll stick with Windows 7 to run the Windows programs that I need and use a, non systemd, Linux for everything else.

      If I can't control and custoise *my* computer operating system to how I like it then it's no use to me.

      All an operating system is there for is to allow me to mange my files and run the programs I want to run. I'm not paying to run somebody elses shit on my dime.

    12. Re:I can hear the cries already by CustomSolvers2 · · Score: 1

      Note that my comments here are a continuation of a previous discussion. As you can see there, I was a happy Windows 7 user expecting to continue being that way until I discovered that my new hardware wasn't supporting Windows 7; rather than forcibly using Windows 10, I preferred to move to Linux (first time ever on my main computer). So, if you are a Windows 7 user planning to buy new hardware, you should take a look at that other thread + do some pre-research because it might not be supported.

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    13. Re:I can hear the cries already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why can't they just make it work like Windows XP did? It never asked me about permissions or for administrator access when I installed 500 toolbars, bonzi buddy and cool customized cursor packs and it was all just fine.

      Humor aside, Windows 10 is essentially Windows XP(x64) plus 500 things you may not want.

      And that's the difference. XP was XP (plus Windows Genuine Advantage!!!) and Windows 10 is all the privacy violating crap you used to have to download and install yourself.

    14. Re: I can hear the cries already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of good stuff was added in Vista, everything after that is just small stuff. 8 started the apps downfall and Explorer had code doing app bs. In 10 there are 4 processes required just to open the start menu.

    15. Re:I can hear the cries already by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Right they fail to see how the gray Windows 95 GUI was the best overall!

      They said it lacks interactivity and is dull. The Windows 10 tiles and phone widgets get up to date mail, news, etc. You do not even need to open them. All the old peopl (I am 40 I may add) complain about how it looks funny but can't cite an example on why it is inferior to older stuff.

      Sorry, but I agree with the grandparent here on learning new things is hard on muscle memory even if it is an improvement. I heard the same people cry on losing XP when they talk about user preference stuff.

  3. Like Windows will obey them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do not give permission for Windows 10 to even be installed, but with new hardware forcing upgrades and Linux making itself a non option with systemD I will be soon forced to have Windows 10 ignore my permissions.

    1. Re:Like Windows will obey them by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      BSD, OpenBSD

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    2. Re: Like Windows will obey them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gentoo Linux, no need for systemd. Most likely other Linux options. As someone pointed out, there are also *BSD options.

    3. Re: Like Windows will obey them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Devuan

  4. MS still dreaming of winodws mobile by Dorianny · · Score: 2

    Of course this only applies to apps using the Universal Windows Platform UWP api. I don't know anyone not stuck with windows on a ARM using the windows app store

    1. Re:MS still dreaming of winodws mobile by PmanAce · · Score: 0

      What about the Raspberry Pi? It runs UWP apps.

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  5. This feature already on mobile Win10 by sinij · · Score: 1

    One of the reasons I keep using Windows Phone is ability to fine-tune access to GPS and Contacts. More so, I can additionally turn off GPS for everything via easily accessible drop down setting menu.

    1. Re: This feature already on mobile Win10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android and iOS have this as well. There's no reason to be using a windows phone.

  6. Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microsoft Operating Systems Privacy Software Windows 10 Will Soon Give Users More Control Over App Permissions

    What about Windows 10 giving users more control over OPERATING SYSTEM Permissions?

    1. Re:Whatever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

      Microsoft is fine letting people restrict *other* software, but heaven forbid if the user wants to restrict Microsoft's spyware and forced updates.

  7. windows apps = worthless imo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People actually use "apps" for Windows? Like for real? As in this isn't a hoax? Sorry Microsoft, but you're not going to get my credit card number.

    (Seriously, I still think windows "apps" are some kind of extended April Fools gag.)

    1. Re:windows apps = worthless imo by KiloByte · · Score: 1

      People actually use "apps" for Windows? Like for real? As in this isn't a hoax?

      I don't think anyone not on Microsoft's marketing team does. And for actual work even they still use programs not apps.

      (Seriously, I still think windows "apps" are some kind of extended April Fools gag.)

      That's a tragedy not comedy.

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  8. Slashdot Comments by Merk42 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    M$ did thing! Thing is bad!

    It's a thing we've wanted before? That other OSes we like do?
    Doesn't matter! M$ is teh evil!!1

    1. Re:Slashdot Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does a thing that is worse than the administrative controls, permissions and policies we already had in an attempt to make a desktop OS even more like a phone OS.

      Don't forget all of that spyware, adware and inability for the user to control what updates they receive or when their computer will reboot, shill.

    2. Re: Slashdot Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct: It does not matter.

  9. How about these permissions by ebyrob · · Score: 1

    Get off my device and go disable the windows store entirely.

    I really don't need an "app store" for a company that can't even field a cell phone platform. Heck, I don't need an app store from the 2 who CAN! If I want to install something I'll go download the bits and run it the old fashioned way thank you very much. (even if it's .apk not .msi or .exe)

    1. Re:How about these permissions by ebyrob · · Score: 1

      or .pkg or .mpkg or .deb or .rpm or .tgz or .inf or .zip etc...

  10. That's not how it will work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How it will work, is, each app will ask for a buttload of permission for stuff you'd think it doesn't need, like a puzzle game asking for camera permissions, but the app will not run unless it gets those permissions, so most users will give up and grant every app all permissions, thus making the whole exercise pointless.

    1. Re:That's not how it will work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      True that. And MS is doing the same itself; today Windows version of Skype asked if it was ok to install a update (funny question itself, as I have disabled automatic update checks on it) and the dialog gave two options; Yes and Later. Pressing Later-button just closes the Skype immediately. Only way to bypass that dialog was to answer yes. Why not be honest that we give you no choice but do as we tell you or cry and do as we tell you? And if the MS did not try to make the Skype UI worse and more phone-like on every version, people might actually want to update it.

    2. Re:That's not how it will work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "accept all and install" has been the norm for shady installs for more than a decade.. you expect anything better?..... from microsoft, the people that forced windows 10: spyware edition upon everybody?

      linux, folks.. learn it. learn to love it, or at least hate it less than the other options. teach your friends; and those who are unteachable, tell them to buy ipads or kindles or chromebooks instead of real computers (ya i know they're 'worse' than a desktop, but they really aren't worse than the smartphone that's probably already in their pocket wrt privacy). if we can get a few hundred million users to switch away from windows 10 maybe microsoft will care... maybe. might take half a billion or more though.

    3. Re:That's not how it will work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like how the gmail android app tells you the following if you try to compose an email:
      "This app won't work properly unless you allow Google Play services' request to access the following:
      * Camera
      * Microphone
      To continue, open Settings, then Permissions, and allow all listed items.
      [Cancel] [Open Settings]"

      Dear Google, an email client does not need access to either one of those.

    4. Re:That's not how it will work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Gmail app is shit. K-9 Mail is much better, supports any mail server and it's open source.

      Get it from F-Droid (because Google Play is garbage too)

    5. Re:That's not how it will work by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 2

      This. That's exactly what I've noticed. The last time I used IOS and Android, neither will let you assign granular/discrete permissions. It's all or nothing. Interestingly, Blackberry 10 already has this feature. The commenter's statement turns out to be exactly what happened to the native Blackberry 10 applications. You can refuse to grant the app this or that permissions, and in turn it'll simply re-display the permissions dialog or rage-quit because you won't grant 100% of everything it asked for. I've used IOS, Android, and BB10. Now, I've gone back to Symbian on a phone that is incapable of installing apps. It's a Phillips Xenium and the battery life is about three weeks.

  11. Sticking with Windows 9 by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    I'm not hearing good things about Windows 10, so I am sticking with Windows 9.

    1. Re:Sticking with Windows 9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that German for Debian?

    2. Re:Sticking with Windows 9 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use Windows 11. It's Windows 8.1 Pro + Classic Shell + custom theme + custom security and with Windows Store, Windows Update, Windows Media Player, Windows Defender, Internet Exploder and a bunch of worthless services, tasks and applications disabled or removed.

      It's by far the best version of Windows. Fast, light, good looking and more secure than anything Microsoft could produce on their own.

    3. Re:Sticking with Windows 9 by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Windows 11, it's one louder

  12. It's just like crosswalk buttons. by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

    You can push them all you want, but most of them are disconnected. (Notice the many years this has been happening.)

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    1. Re:It's just like crosswalk buttons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have never seen a disconnected crosswalk button that wasn't due to being smashed by vandals. If there isn't much traffic, they cause the light to change quicker and they all cause the "walk" symbol to appear. If they were disconnected, they wouldn't do any of that.

      Nice little paranoid conspiracy you've stumble upon though.

    2. Re:It's just like crosswalk buttons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, my experience is that if the crosswalk button at a major intersection has any effect at all, it prolongs the current through cycle, probably to get a few more cars through before the long pedestrian cycle. Otherwise, about the only effect is that on the next change for the direction you want to cross, the "Walk" sign will blink on for about 5 sec. or less than you're "Don't Walk countdown starts. "Don't Walk" is correct - there's never enough time to complete the crossing if you're actually walking; you must move faster than that.

      As for MS and controls: I don't use apps a lot but so far W10 (even in the phone) does seem to have a fair number of controls and the apps for the most part have accepted limitations gracefully. Will that continue? Headline says yes, and maybe more; comments are skeptical. Comments are probably overblown but correct. It's still a little while before FallCU arrives, and I actually only got 1703 less than a month ago, so there's plenty of time for features to be removed.

    3. Re:It's just like crosswalk buttons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, my experience is that if the crosswalk button at a major intersection has any effect at all, it prolongs the current through cycle, probably to get a few more cars through before the long pedestrian cycle.

      It actually hastens the change if traffic is low or non-existent. When I go for my early morning runs, some streets have very few cars and when I tap my arm against the crossing sensor (or press the button for the ancient crossings that haven't made it to the 21st century), the light changes immediately.

      "Don't Walk" is correct - there's never enough time to complete the crossing if you're actually walking; you must move faster than that.

      You must walk at a snail's pace then. I never have trouble walking across a street before the countdown finishes.

      Do you live in a backwater area where there are no sidewalks or something? I'm from a major city (Los Angeles) and what you're saying simply doesn't apply.

    4. Re:It's just like crosswalk buttons. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Referee: Mis-use of LMGTFY in response to nothing. 5 yard penalty, repeat first comment.

  13. Clarification by XSportSeeker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just so people know, this has nothing to do with regular Windows software, just Windows Store apps... which no one cares about.
    https://blogs.windows.com/wind...
    "Starting with the Fall Creators Update, we’re extending this experience to other device capabilities for apps you install through the Windows Store."

    1. Re:Clarification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't that obvious, from the talk about "apps" and "permissions", stuff that has never existed in Windows before?

    2. Re:Clarification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      which no one cares about

      You know, at some point if someone wants to make something successful they at least have to fucking TRY. I'm not a fan of the Store either but at least Microsoft are trying when they're surrounded by naysayers who'd rather we just stick with the Apple/Google duopoly.

    3. Re:Clarification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      WTF are you talking about? There are hundreds of thousands of sources for Windows software.
      The only reason for a Windows Store is to give Microsoft a cut of the purchase of other people's software.

  14. I'd rather the headline be: by QuietLagoon · · Score: 3, Informative

    "Windows 10 Will Soon Give Users Complete Control Over Windows 10's Data Harvesting" But it's not. So I stuck with Windows 7 until I finish my migration to Linux.

    1. Re:I'd rather the headline be: by WallyL · · Score: 1

      This. Windows 10 is what brought about my Year of Linux on the Desktop (2015). I still maintain a Windows 7 machine for gaming but that will change someday.

  15. When will we get Microsoft control? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd much rather be hearing that Microsoft gives users more control over Microsoft permissions, for instance being able to completely and totally turn off all 'telemetry', monitoring, 'phoning home', and all other forms of end-user privacy invasion. I want to hear that you can install Windows and know that Microsoft will never have any access to the machine other than what you explicitly grant on a per-instance basis. I want to hear that you can once again pick and choose what updates are installed instead of having them pushed on you. Will never happen though, power always seeks more power, they never give it up. The only way to win is to not play -- not use Miscreant-o-soft products.

  16. Solved a non-problem by JohnFen · · Score: 1

    you might not have to worry as much about malicious apps spamming your contacts or hijacking the camera.

    I already don't have to worry about that, since I won't touch the app store with a ten foot pole.

    Now, will Microsoft address real security issues, such as allowing us to turn off all the telemetry?

  17. Fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can I unpermit the Windows 10 app from rebooting whenever it gets updates? Ive googled and looked thru their shitshow of system settings, nothing really stops it does it?

    1. Re:Fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't give a Windows machine an internet connection. Use a different computer running Linux for accessing the web and have a disconnected Windows machine if you need to run any Windows programs. if you need to transfer data (installers etc.) to the Windows machine use a USB drive.

      Works for me.

    2. Re: Fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      just run it in a virtualbox with internet disabled

  18. The hint is in the article title by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 1

    "Windows 10 Will Soon Give Users More Control Over App Permissions "

    The problem is that Windows 10 should have given users ALL control over app permissions IN THE FIRST PLACE.
    (Just put those permissions somewhere the unskilled users can't mess with them easily though)

    What Microsoft needs to work on are bugs in Windows 10 like the one where you attempt rename your computer with a string of numbers from the new PC Settings:

    "Rename your PC. You can enter a combination of letters, hyphens and numbers"
    Ok, how about 011555472053?
    "That PC name won't work. Pick one that doesn't start with a number and try again"
    *head asplode*

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    1. Re:The hint is in the article title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't hold your breath while waiting for fix. After all, it is the very same company which file encryption password can only be numbers because of reasons. Of course it makes every user of Bitlocker to have at most eight digit passwords which are trivial to brute force.

  19. The cries should be for software freedom. by jbn-o · · Score: 0

    So despite knowing that Microsoft is an early NSA collaborator, forcing and tricking users into "upgrading" to Windows 10, distributes proprietary software (all of which is untrustworthy by default which prevents even technical users from fixing problems and distributing improved software to others), and Microsoft blatantly disregarded user choice and privacy, shipped with bad defaults for privacy, got caught lying to users about how Windows 10's euphemistically named "privacy controls" worked, you believe the headline that Microsoft "will soon give users more control over app permissions" and therefore want to talk about this in the context of the rose-colored vision of the past for Windows users? Microsoft has made so many choices against "giving users more control" over anything there's no reason to believe they'll ever make such choices, just like any other software proprietor.

    Forget the past, history begins now.

    1. Re:The cries should be for software freedom. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Absolutely, giving more control to the users and OS from apps == an assault on freedom and privacy because it comes from Microsoft.

      If it is Google or Apple that is different because they are cool. If MS didn't I bet you would bash MS for being behind the times. lol

    2. Re:The cries should be for software freedom. by jbn-o · · Score: 0

      Please re-read my post slowly and in its entirety, or consider reading virtually any other post I've written on /.. I clearly point out that proprietary software is the problem and software freedom is the fix. The points I linked to in the grandparent post refer to Microsoft specifically because that organization is relevant in this thread, not because Microsoft is somehow a more unacceptable proprietor than other software proprietors.

  20. Dear Leader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But when can I uncheck the "phone home" box???

  21. Corporatocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But will they give users more control over Windows 10 or will they keep trying to gain more control over their users?

  22. Windoze, what else to say? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Windows 10 sucks donkey balls. The first true OS with multimedia and net ownership built it, and more to come. Seriously, unless there is an obscure software piece you absolutely have to have, and Window is the only delivery system, why would you??

  23. If only W10 didn't commit forced data theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this would have a fairly decent feel if Windows 10 wasn't forcibly stealing your usage and data. Microsoft doesn't see users as valuable.

    Oh, having an advertising ID built in to your O/S? Pure evil.

    Microsoft = Pure Evil. Simple as that.

  24. This is just to make you feel good about telemetry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Microsoft will give you a little piece of candy to make you feel better about data slurping that you can not switch off.

    Telemetry example: Sheeple #493242 doesn't use Edge, let's send someone to his house.

  25. Fine grained useless, have to give access anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Much as on phones, where fine-grained permissions are already fairly commonplace, you might not have to worry as much about malicious apps spamming your contacts or hijacking the camera.

    You mean like denying Google access to the mic and camera, but then Gmail doesn't work?

  26. About some error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But why it is slow!!!
    https://goo.gl/m8tqiy