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Google Hit With Gender Pay Discrimination Lawsuit (axios.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Three female former Google employees have filed a lawsuit against the search giant alleging gender-based pay discrimination, as the Associated Press reported. The former employees, Kelly Ellis, Holly Pease and Kelli Wisuri, all left the company after being put on career paths within the company that they say would pay them less than their male counterparts.

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  1. I shed no tears... by sinij · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It will be absolutely hilarious to watch Google defend against this in courts. After all, we all got the memo that victim-blaming and perpetuating gender stereotypes goes against Google's core values.

    /popcorn

    1. Re:I shed no tears... by bsolar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What he's saying is that Google will be likely accused of victim-blaming and perpetuating gender stereotypes no matter which kind of arguments they will use to defend themselves, even if those arguments are actually correct and show no pay discrimination took place.

  2. Frivolous Lawsuit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Why don't these chicks just identify as male if they want higher salaries? Problem solved.

  3. Enjoy by Tailhook · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of grievance mongers.

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  4. It's because of social justice activism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google is infamously left-wing. That's the *reason* they're being sued. It sounds counter-intuitive, but it's true. Hear me out.

    I work at Google. You'll find no real sexism here. What you will find is unending leftist propaganda. There's a weekly microaggression newsletter, even. The constant drumbeat is "You are a victim! You are being oppressed! The world is arrayed against everyone except white men!"

    Now, when you put a normal well adjusted person in this environment, he or she starts to believe the propaganda and attribute any adverse circumstances to his or her identity group, not to his or her individual abilities and choices. The non-stop social justice narrative teaches people to see everything as a social justice grievance.

    So is it any wonder that some women at Google started to really believe that they were being oppressed and sued? You reap what you sow.

    1. Re:It's because of social justice activism by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 5, Insightful

      An unverified AC making bold claims... Excuse me if I don't take your word for it.

      It's entirely possible he just likes his paycheck. From literally every story about and leak out of Google they will hunt down and destroy the professional lives of anyone even so much as not stating what the AC said in a positive light.

    2. Re:It's because of social justice activism by PoopMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How well did it go for the last person who criticized google with their name attached?

    3. Re:It's because of social justice activism by computational+super · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's the fundamental problem with the SJW ideology - it's never enough. You could kill every white man alive, and the SJW's would still be unsatisfied.

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    4. Re: It's because of social justice activism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe some white men just want to ensure that everyone has the same rights -- including white men. I honestly don't care if my grandfather oppressed your grandfather (he didn't, but that's another matter), I am not oppressing you and that's all that should matter.

      Perhaps if the whole lot of you weren't hell-bent on "turning the tables of oppression" and, instead, cared about the equality that we all deserve, you'd get farther.

  5. it was inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Once Google denied that their gender gap could possibly be caused by any non-discriminatory factors, all you are left with is discrimination.

    This is only the beginning. Class-action suits will soon follow and the statements of top Google executives in response to the Damore memo have painted Google into a corner.

    To echo other posters, couldn't happen to a nicer company.

    1. Re: it was inevitable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Someone on Twitter said it best: by firing Damore, Google rejected the only explanation for the gender gap that doesn't leave Google at fault.

  6. Not Pay Discrimination? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The former employees, Kelly Ellis, Holly Pease and Kelli Wisuri, all left the company after being put on career paths within the company that they say would pay them less than their male counterparts.

    Let me get this straight. They aren't suing because they were being paid less, they're suing because in the future they might've been paid less?

  7. You made your bed Google... by Derekloffin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At one time I might have put up a defense for them, but not anymore. Far too much BS coming out of Google these days, and they good and cleanly shot themselves in both their feet with the Memo fiasco.

  8. Re:Settles in for Reasoned Debate by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This sure is an inconvenient story, isn't it? Google, that solidly left-wing company, so left that they fired a man for a very well written and calm critique of Googleâ(TM)s policies (with rather decent suggestions to improve things, mind you). He argued that Google was becoming an "ideological echo chamber" where right-of-center views weren't welcome. He was dismissed for creating a hostile work environment, proving the point. Now Google is being sued for not being far enough left. Google may well end up arguing the exact same points the memo author made in court. I'm making the popcorn, this is going to be a great show.

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  9. Re: Bring it on ladies... by cyber-vandal · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think you've signalled enough virtue for one thread fella.

  10. Kelly Ellis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Name sounds familiar. Oh yeah, She claimed she was sexually harassed two years ago. Obviously, nothing came of it, so she moved on to the next feminist myth.

    Note to anyone hiring: Do not hire people who put "Patriarchy Smashing" on their list of skills on LinkedIn. Or this will happen to you!

  11. Re:Settles in for Reasoned Debate by alvinrod · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whoa there ganjadude, you need to watch your terminology or someone might get offended. You should use the gender-neutral "straw persons" or perhaps the more modern preferred terminology "persons of straw" when pointing out logical fallacies. I don't quite know if this could be construed as a micro-aggression, but it's at least a pico-agression and probably closer to a nano-aggression.

  12. Re:OH! WOMEN! by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Prohibition. And yes absolutely, the woman suffragists _were_ largely the same group as the temperance societies.

    Worse, they did it while the young men were away fighting WWI and couldn't practically vote. Talk about a kick in the teeth when you got back.

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  13. Re:ORLY? by malkavian · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The Economist" did an article on this. The end result from it (in the UK anyway) was that the gender pay gap was a fraction of a percentage point in a like for like. Inside a given company, with the same responsibilities and title, women earned the same as men. Women in a company tended to go for the lower paid, more hourly flexible positions, which is what dragged the average down. This is from the statistics gathered by a consultancy (Korn Ferry) with about 25 million sample points. That's reasonably robust.
    The UK as a 0.8% difference in post from men to women for exactly the same role.
    Oddly, the cries around this are suddenly that women must be given equal shares in the board rooms and at higher management. It doesn't say whether skills and choices lean that direction or not, simply that this must be made so.
    You're absolutely right as far as I can see that people must be given every chance to shine, irrespective of gender, colour, or whatever. If they can do the jobs well, that's what counts.
     

  14. Re:Settles in for Reasoned Debate by penandpaper · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whoa there ganjadude, you need to watch how you administer non-verbal praise, facetious or not. The proper way to "clap" is to click your fingers. Clapping is an oppressive expression that shows your privilege. However many pico-aggressions you just committed before you have definitely crossed into micro aggression territory. Find the nearest minority or woman and give them $1000 to reaffirm that you are an ally to the cause and not an alt-right cis gendered sexist- racist- homophobe- xenophobe- islamaphobe deplorable.