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Results of the Ubuntu Desktop Applications Survey (dustinkirkland.com)
Ubuntu Product and Strategy head at Canonical, dustinkirkland writes: A few months ago, Slashdot readers were asked for feedback on the Ubuntu Desktop default applications. This blog post, by the author of that post (hi, it's me again), provides the aggregated and processed results of that survey.
I can't RTFA and I don't want to WTFV.
You can't read the results, it's just a bunch of randomly moving pixels.
Can you fix this Dustin?
I'm getting the impression that knowing how to read automatically removes the user from consideration in the Ubuntu (and Gnome as well) worlds.
The message you send by making video-only text-based content is :"If you can read you're way too smart to be the target of this content. This content is for people too stupid to read, so go away!"
I'm a minority race. Save your vitriol for white people.
Seriously fed up of video this, video that.
GIVE ME SOME FUCKING TEXT AND A FEW CHARTS!
At least I have the option of blacklisting the site and never ever visiting it again.
Winner:
Visual Studio
Clearly no one from Slashdot voted for that as it's made by Microsoft.
I can't read anything!
This is getting out of hand.
They aren't locked away in the video, are they? Is there any chance they could be made available in a reasonable format?
I prefer Totemto VLC, except when I run across videos that Totem has trouble with. Totem has a nicer UI, and works most of the time, so VLC is a backup. Same as it is on Windows. I just don't want it to be the default.
Gnome-Terminal is nice, and so is gedit, but I'm more a fan of KDE. Konsole, Kate, and no Gnome registry. Dolphin or Konqueror for a file manager. Suprised they scored so low. I guess KDE users got tired of getting dumped on by Canonical, and switched to other distributions. Or maybe they are hoping for a Kubuntu conference. Or probably just not participating cause their votes typically don't matter.
Firefox and LibreOffice/OpenOffice are hard to beat. And like a lot of Linux users I would rather avoid anything Chromium based.
coming from the Ubuntu camp, why am I not surprised?
Have they solved their endless power management problems, where Ubuntu gets less battery life than Windows, even if you install any proprietary drivers on Ubuntu manually? No? Then I don't care what applications it runs as default, Ubuntu is still useless for most people (and so are all Desktop Linux distros). It's a mobile world out there.
I was able to see them fine after making them full-screen. (jump to slide 12 and start there)
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
This crowded unaccountable garbage is exactly why Linux (including Ubuntu) is still by-programmers, for-programmers... all about the coders.
No normal human being would want to sift through that cr4p, and if they did, there's no "there" there. I thought maybe things had changed. Maybe linux as a desktop OS was finally ready for users who were not coders. I took the chance of switching from windows to using ubuntu (instead of Mac), and no It looks like a total dead end.
https://www.microsoft.com/net/...
Microsoft raised the white flag and surrendered to Linux a year or two ago.
If I click "Download" on that page then "Continue to download", I'm presented with a box to log in to LinkedIn or sign up for LinkedIn. Was this article intended as an ad for Microsoft's LinkedIn service?
Microsoft raised the white flag and surrendered to Linux a year or two ago.
I knew about attempts at natively porting to Linux and even using Windows-based Visual Studio to directly develop on Linux. But this isn't the same than having a proper Visual Studio/.NET support equivalent to the one on Windows. These are just the first versions which are likely to be quite faulty (not criticising Microsoft/.NET Team, just guessing their most likely behaviour on account of their usual proceeding). Additionally, .NET Core isn't the same that the whole .NET Framework. So, for the time being and as per my knowledge (honestly, not too good; as far as I haven't done too much .NET work on Linux), the most reliable comprehensive enough Linux alternative to .NET continues being Mono, where the best IDE seems to be the referred MonoDevelop (I have started using it quite recently, precisely on Ubuntu, and it seems quite nice).
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I use Visual Studio Code on a daily basis. It's the best IDE on Linux by a huge margin. It's much, much, much more efficient to use than Atom, vim or Emacs are, and I say this as somebody who has used vim for many years and is quite proficient with it. It's nowhere near as slow and bloated as Eclipse and NetBeans are. Visual Studio Code provides a great foundation, and there are a lot of great plugins that make it even better.
Face it, the Microsoft of 2017 is not the Microsoft of 2007, and it's not the Microsoft of 1997. With Azure in the picture, Microsoft of 2017 has a lot more to gain from people using Linux than they have to lose.
If you're firmly stuck in the past and thinking that the situation today is the same as it was 20 years ago, then you're a fool.
As for the old "embrace, extend, extinguish" meme, I think it applies far more to the supposedly pro-Linux corporations than it does to Microsoft. It wasn't Microsoft that embraced GNOME, extended GNOME 2 into GNOME 3, and by doing so extinguished GNOME's usability. It wasn't Microsoft that embraced sysvinit, extended it into systemd, and extinguished my computers' ability to boot reliably.
Frankly, Microsoft hasn't harmed my Linux experience at all. Thanks to things like Visual Studio Code, .NET Core and now SQL Server, Microsoft is actually improving my Linux user experience significantly.
If Microsoft came out with a Linux distro that didn't use systemd, that provided a good UI (they could just use KDE), and that had great .NET Core integration by default, then I would switch in an instant. I'd even consider paying a reasonable amount of money to use such a system.
I know, you or somebody else will probably trot out the "shill" or "bot" false accusations at this point. But the reality is that Microsoft isn't paying me anything to write this comment, and they don't have to. I'm impressed with the product they've created, and I'm not afraid to say so.
Microsoft is doing more to help the Linux community today than the supposed pro-Linux companies are.
Visual Studio would be running on Windowsand only the corresponding virtual machine on Ubuntu.
I guess that rules out anything written in Java, C#, or Python, as all three languages run on virtual machines. Eclipse would be running on IcedTea, MonoDevelop would be running on Mono, and even Update Manager would be running on CPython.
And even if you're willing to explain the key difference between JVM, CLR, or a Python interpreter on the one hand and VirtualBox on the other hand, let me rephrase my interpretation of Merk42's comment in light of your rule that applications in virtual machines don't count:
"When the best tool for a job is exclusive to Windows, you run Windows. Visual Studio is the best tool for X, Y, and Z jobs [please clarify how], and it's so much better at these jobs than widely used IDEs for Ubuntu that it's worth running Windows in addition to Ubuntu."
Hi, I am fully illiterate and can't read or write. Could someone please make a video to summarize the results of this survey?
Yes, there is a very good one here: Video to summarize Ubunutu Desktop Applications Survey for the Illiterate
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
I feel it should be noted that they separated Thunderbird and Lightning into two separate entries in the survey. For those unaware, the calendar plugin for Thunderbird is Lightning. Therefore, they should be counted as one. Doing so would make them the winner hands down. Unfortunately, since the separated them, Gnome-Calendar was the winner.
One of our competitors trademarked the term "hypothesis". From now on, we will call them "boneheaded ideas".
I'm fine with the results. Keep on fighting the good fight ubuntu!
I just read a long analysis by someone who seems to be quite knowledgeable about both, and they updated it over time as .Net Core improved and the focus of the Mono ecosystem has changed.
The bottom line: .Net used on Linux servers, since everyone is using Linux servers.
For server and cli / console applications, you're probably better off with . Net Core. Microsoft is heavily invested in making that work well. They want
For GUI applications, Mono is a better bet. Microsoft isn't big on supporting the Linux graphical desktop.
Visual Studio, the IDE whose C++ compiler secretly injected spyware into binaries?
That's my review of this shit.
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We just helped some motherfucker write his keynote? Wait, not me. I smelled a rat and stayed away from the initial story.
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Melinda Gates is a cunt.
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> On the other hand, you are not saying anything about compatibility issues (perhaps there is a theoretically perfect backwards compatibility with old .NET versions, but what about applications developed before the relatively-new .NET Core was even created?)
While it's supposed to be backward compatible, .Net Core is designed so you can embed the (small) copy of whichever version you want right into your application, so you can have multiple versions on the same machine.
Because it's small, it doesn't include the GUI stuff that Mono includes. Now that Microsoft owns Xamarin, and therefore Mono, we may see more and more code shared between them, until eventually they become the same product, or Core is a part of Mono.