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Star Trek: Discovery Nearly Cracks Pirate Bay's Top 10 In Less Than 24 Hours (ew.com)

Yesterday was the season premiere of the first new Star Trek TV series in 12 years. While the first episode aired on the CBS broadcast network Sunday night, the second episode -- and all the rest to come -- was made available exclusively on the CBS All Access streaming service for $6 a month. Naturally, this upset Trekkies and led many of them to find alternative methods to watch the show. EW reports that Star Trek: Discovery "is on the verge of cracking Pirate Bay's Top 10 most illegally downloaded shows in less than 24 hours." From the report: The Discovery pilot is currently at No. 11 on the list (apparently at No. 15 just a few hours ago), the pilot is up there with the likes of HBO's Game of Thrones, Adult Swim's Rick and Morty and, for some reason, TNT's The Last Ship. The show's second episode is at No. 17, which is a tad surprising as that was the one that wasn't free. Ever since the distribution plan was first announced fans have resisted with some vehemence the idea of paying for "yet another streaming service just to watch a single show" (there's more than one show on All Access, CBS is quick to point out, and then a debate over the relative merits of NCIS and MacGyver repeats ensues).

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  1. Re:Binge watched anyone ? by gravewax · · Score: 5, Funny

    No it is fucking awful. way too much touchy feely Janeway type crap combined with moronic plot building and a captain and first officer that are suicide twins doing everything themselves regardless of how risky. I am hoping Michael gets the same treatment as the captain got in the next few episodes then perhaps they can start again. The only remotely likeable characters are the klingons

  2. This is what TV viewers wanted, free from packages by mutantSushi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages. Not clear what is horrible about sub'ing the producers of content one watches at any one moment, and switching those around when one's viewing preferences change. Personally I'm not much of a TV watcher so am not in market for this, but seems strange complaint given the population who does want paid TV content.

    re: the show, can't say it interests me, I am more the sort who wants to see time-line furthered post DS9, rather than re-hash original Trek timeline. And fuck Kirk, Sisko was King. :-)

  3. Re:Binge watched anyone ? by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No.

    The lead characters are all thoroughly unlikeable. All for different reasons; a ridiculously stereotypical scaredy-chicken science officer, non-descript (quite literally) secondary officers, an arrogant, egocentric and irresponsible first officer and gullible, emotional and passive captain. All thoroughly unlikeable nonetheless. The main protagonist especially.

    The camera work also doesn't add; all dark, cold and gloomy. Will human spaceships really be more depressing than the inside of a WW2 submarine?

    Orville gets the "feel" of the original ST shows a lot more even though it has it's own problems.

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  4. Re: That gender fluid main character... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whatever it was, it was ugly.

    Well guess what uncomfortable men of slashdot?

    The spirit of Star Trek has always been quite radical since it's 1966 introduction. It had an African American woman playing. Many TV producers at the time refused to air series showing professional African Americans as it would offend white southern TV viewers. She was also a woman which back then was controversial as well.

    Star Trek also had the first interracial kiss which really shocked people the most as you could be beaten up and mobbed if you did this in the south back then. Martin Luther King was a Trekkie as it showed an alien, Russian, Chinese, and African all working together in harmony with racial differences involved. He even flew down to the set and pleaded with the actress who played Uhara to not quit and be an inspiration to both women and Black Americans.

    Transgendered folks as much as they make you uncomfortable are here. Star Trek wants to portray them in a future where we overcome differences which is the spirit of the series.

  5. Re:Binge watched anyone ? by gravewax · · Score: 3, Insightful

    bullshit, all of the Captain/first officer garbage was touchy feely bullshit, their was fuck all logic to any of their actions. I never said the Klingons were good, but compared to anything on the fucked up federation side in this steaming turd they looked great. how could you possibly think the captain was an interesting character? she lacked all substance and made decisions that went against logic and just plain common sense.

  6. I wouldn't risk it. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A show like this is going to be too hot. Anyone downloading without using a VPN client is risking a $3,000 fine and possible loss of their internet connection.

    I like star trek. But I'm simply not going to watch it.

    I have too many other forms of entertainment anyway.

    If it's good- perhaps it will be available thru less expensive or less risky delivery methods.

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  7. Re:Binge watched anyone ? by Koen+Lefever · · Score: 4, Funny

    The vulcan gave the very non-vulcan advise to skip any diplomacy but to shoot first. The casus belli was a human he indoctrinated eagerly desecrating a klingon shrine. Might he be a romulan infiltrator posing as a vulcan tasked with igniting a human-klingon war?

    The klingons were obviously played by reman actors.

    My guess is that CBS bought this series from the Romulan Propaganda Directorate.

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  8. Re: That gender fluid main character... by sittingnut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it isn't "radical" to take a pro lgbtqxyz position right now, that is the current default position of establishment in west.
    i think what you mean is star trek has a history of siding with the "liberal" "progressive" ideological position. doing that was once radical and risky. now that progressive liberalism is the ideology of establishment, it is neither risky or radical.

  9. Re: That gender fluid main character... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I didn't know I chose to be Autistic because it was trendy nor that the people who post comments like that know more than the psychiatrists?

  10. Re: That gender fluid main character... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know why so many people seem to think that Michael is gender fluid or trans or something. Bryan Fuller always gives his female characters male names, it's his signature move. It doesn't imply anything, all the previous ones on other shows have been cis females.

    Considering how some people denounced the show as some kind of SJW bullshit before it even aired, the first two episodes didn't have any hints that a single character was gay, trans or whatever. Is just being female or non-white enough to trigger people now?

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  11. It really wasn't very good by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, I wanted to see this show. So the show - the visuals, I mean - was very pretty, the acting was terrible, the plot was positively drowning in angst (not uncommon for shows these days, sigh), the Klingons ridiculously slow to communicate (a warrior race that can only speak at turtle-like rates is pretty damn disadvantaged against humans) and the presentation was wounded mightily by commercials. Plus, what, yet another version of Klingons? Good grief. And the incompetence and lack of discipline on the part of the bridge crew, that was just... well, I'll call it "highly unlikely" in order to keep my language clean.

    So we cancelled our CBS all-access subscription and will wait for the show to come out on bluray, assuming that happens (I expect it will.) We might even buy it at that point. Maybe the pain of the problems with these two episodes will have faded from memory by then...

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  12. Agreed, but by fyngyrz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Discovery is not SF. It's fantasy. Bad fantasy.

    No even slightly competent science advisor got anywhere near these plot lines.

    Between that, the angst, the rather awesome lack of discipline and order among the bridge crew, the pointless nattering when serious matters needed addressing, and O lord, the inundation with commercials...

    Ugh. Terrible. Bye bye, CBS-all-access.

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    1. Re:Agreed, but by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wait... You paid for an on-demand streaming service... And there were commercials!?!

      Fuck that, it needs to die in a fire.

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  13. Re:This is what TV viewers wanted, free from packa by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages.

    I think you might be misunderstanding the complaint about wanted "a la carte" cable. The precise problem isn't that they have too many channels available to them. The problem is that the price of cable packages are high and rising, and people are saying, "If I'm paying $120 for 500 channels with thousands of shows, but I only watch 20 shows on 4 of those channels. Why can't I save some money by only getting the shows and channels I want?"

    So now the content owners are saying, "Oh, you want a la carte, do you? Ok. We'll take those 20 shows that you want, put them each on a different streaming service. We'll charge $10/month for each service, and then in order to justify that price, we'll pack the service with a bunch of other shows that you don't care about. That's what you want, right?"

    But no, having a la carte cable wasn't the goal, it was the means. The goal was to save money without losing access to the shows they want to watch. The idea was that maybe they could save money by sacrificing access to the crap they don't want. It doesn't help to give them a new distribution model that finds a different way to bundle crap we don't want, that ends up costing even more when you add it all up.

  14. Re: That gender fluid main character... by Mashiki · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is a mental illness, that's why it requires psychiatric counseling before you can get your junk cut or be put on any type of medication and so on. Argue all you want, but if a person has gender dysphoria or body integrity identity disorder aka amputee identity disorder you have a mental illness. There is no fundamental difference between the two besides the individual "wanting to have a part cut off" or "believing that they aren't the same sex as their body."

    There's nothing "bad" about that. Except for the people who believe it isn't a psychiatric problem, and would dissuade people from getting proper treatment.

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  15. Re: That gender fluid main character... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Republicans control both houses. Republicans are not progressive.

    Trump controls the White House. He is definitely not progressive.

    Seems to me that the political establishment is fairly far to the right in the US. Even the Democrats are on the right by European standards.

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  16. Re: That gender fluid main character... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Informative

    You seem to know nothing.

    When young children say they are trans, they are supported to live as their correct gender but there is no medication or surgery. That only starts when they hit puberty, after they have been living as that gender for some years, and even then it takes many years of living as their correct gender and sticking to the hormone medication before surgery begins.

    It's not something a person can simply decide one day because it's "trendy", it's something you have to commit to living with for years. And when they are only 10, living with it for 5 years is half their life.

    Is it really so surprising that state healthcare covers well established medical conditions? Are you also outraged that it covers "non-essential" stuff like prosthetics for men who had testicular cancer? Or is it just that you think it's not a real condition, in which case why do you disagree with the majority of medical experts?

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  17. Re: That gender fluid main character... by drinkypoo · · Score: 3

    When young children say they are trans, they are supported to live as their correct gender but there is no medication or surgery. That only starts when they hit puberty, after they have been living as that gender for some years, and even then it takes many years of living as their correct gender and sticking to the hormone medication before surgery begins.

    The problem is the whole idea of a "correct gender", or the idea that "living as their correct gender" means treating them differently from any other child. Children learn that some genders are good or bad, appropriate or inappropriate, and then take that idea and run with it to an illogical conclusion: that it is better to undergo drastic surgery and at minimum have to take sex hormones forever (if there are not other complications, as there often are with surgery) in order to pretend to be something they are not, because they're not happy with the way they were born. People somehow get the idea that there's something wrong with them because they don't feel the way they are told that someone of their gender should feel. Then they have to get the ol' hack n' slash done to their goodies in order to feel good about themselves.

    How about we do away with the gender role bullshit that society forces on people, instead of promoting fixing everything with surgery? I'm about as liberal as can be, and I'm in favor of people having the right to reassign their gender if they want to, but the situation where we make people feel bad about their goodies and then end up paying for them to have them remodeled is sick from stem to stern.

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  18. Re: That gender fluid main character... by MitchDev · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a mental illness, just like religion

  19. Re: That gender fluid main character... by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah it really is a mental illness. Unless you want to argue that the entire branch of psychology is wrong.

    So let's roll with this: The "conscious self" says one thing, the physical body is saying something else. Will you now argue that someone who wants to cut off a part of their body to gain a disability doesn't have a mental illness? Is that not the very definition of a psychiatric problem?

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  20. Re: That gender fluid main character... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The "conscious self" says one thing, the physical body is saying something else.

    From the very first sentence from your link:

    Gender dysphoriaÂoccurs when there is a persistent senseÂofÂmismatch between oneâ(TM)s experiencedÂgender and assigned gender.

    It doesn't imply that the mismatch is between a purely mental perception and a purely physical one. There are a huge range of conditions that cause parts of the body to more masculine or more feminine than other parts, including parts of the brain.

    When people say it is a mental illness, they usually want to imply that it can be cured by talking therapies and the like, rather than by changing the person's gender. Most medical experts view that in the same light as "gay conversion" therapy.

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  21. Re: That gender fluid main character... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Did not know this, but a quick google will confirm this.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0298188/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

    Trade Marks:
    All of his shows have at least one female character with a traditionally male name (Chuck in ''Pushing Daisies'', ''George in Dead Like Me'', Freddie Lounds in ''Hannibal'')