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Star Trek: Discovery Nearly Cracks Pirate Bay's Top 10 In Less Than 24 Hours (ew.com)
Yesterday was the season premiere of the first new Star Trek TV series in 12 years. While the first episode aired on the CBS broadcast network Sunday night, the second episode -- and all the rest to come -- was made available exclusively on the CBS All Access streaming service for $6 a month. Naturally, this upset Trekkies and led many of them to find alternative methods to watch the show. EW reports that Star Trek: Discovery "is on the verge of cracking Pirate Bay's Top 10 most illegally downloaded shows in less than 24 hours." From the report: The Discovery pilot is currently at No. 11 on the list (apparently at No. 15 just a few hours ago), the pilot is up there with the likes of HBO's Game of Thrones, Adult Swim's Rick and Morty and, for some reason, TNT's The Last Ship. The show's second episode is at No. 17, which is a tad surprising as that was the one that wasn't free. Ever since the distribution plan was first announced fans have resisted with some vehemence the idea of paying for "yet another streaming service just to watch a single show" (there's more than one show on All Access, CBS is quick to point out, and then a debate over the relative merits of NCIS and MacGyver repeats ensues).
But is it any good ?
I wonder if it's because episode 2 was only on their shitty spyware streaming paid service with ads...
And it turns out it's stupid meh.
Fire the first officer at that unknown object!
Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages. Not clear what is horrible about sub'ing the producers of content one watches at any one moment, and switching those around when one's viewing preferences change. Personally I'm not much of a TV watcher so am not in market for this, but seems strange complaint given the population who does want paid TV content.
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re: the show, can't say it interests me, I am more the sort who wants to see time-line furthered post DS9, rather than re-hash original Trek timeline. And fuck Kirk, Sisko was King.
People who think they want a la carte are working on an assumption that they buy channels on an individual basis at a fixed price, and resell them like coffee beans. If they could get a bundle of this and a bunch of others, for a little more than just one or the other they'd probably leap at it, even if they don't currently pay for any of them.
Star trek Discovery is available on Netflix in Europe.
Not exclusive to CBS All Access in Europe. We get all the episodes on Netflix (a Netflix "Original"; which just means Netflix streaming exclusive in Europe).
Pretty sure CBS is positioning this to be one of the numerous streams you subscribe to on your Apple TV, thereby participating in the "a la carte" ecosystem.
And you are mistaken, Kirk was the Bomb. I mean other than Picard, of course.
I think you underestimate just how much I just dont care.
For a show with as much history, visibility and marketing as Star Trek, this seems like a failure. Headline should be rewritten:
Star Trek: Discovery failed to make Pirate Bay top 10
On CBS or Pirate Bay? I just watched it on Netflix last night!
Whatever it was, it was ugly.
Well guess what uncomfortable men of slashdot?
The spirit of Star Trek has always been quite radical since it's 1966 introduction. It had an African American woman playing. Many TV producers at the time refused to air series showing professional African Americans as it would offend white southern TV viewers. She was also a woman which back then was controversial as well.
Star Trek also had the first interracial kiss which really shocked people the most as you could be beaten up and mobbed if you did this in the south back then. Martin Luther King was a Trekkie as it showed an alien, Russian, Chinese, and African all working together in harmony with racial differences involved. He even flew down to the set and pleaded with the actress who played Uhara to not quit and be an inspiration to both women and Black Americans.
Transgendered folks as much as they make you uncomfortable are here. Star Trek wants to portray them in a future where we overcome differences which is the spirit of the series.
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A show like this is going to be too hot. Anyone downloading without using a VPN client is risking a $3,000 fine and possible loss of their internet connection.
I like star trek. But I'm simply not going to watch it.
I have too many other forms of entertainment anyway.
If it's good- perhaps it will be available thru less expensive or less risky delivery methods.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
"The show's second episode is at No. 17, which is a tad surprising as that was the one that wasn't free".
You're forgetting about the "Rest of the world" -- that massive populous outside of the U.S. of A (which is only about 22 times the population of the USA, so probably doesn't register for you) that don't have CBS (and probably many in the US that also don't have access to CBS), and thus have no other way to view the pilot. It makes sense to me that more people will download the pilot to watch before downloading the 2nd episode, which they may download the next day, or not at all if they didn't enjoy the show.
It covers the transgender issue far more succinctly than ST:D (how fitting) is going to, as well as actually making it have potentially lasting long term effects for the characters on the show, doubly so if said character ends up having issues with their transgendered identity.
Additionally, while the dialogue is occasionally ackward, it doesn't sound condescending/out of character, which all of the dialogue in ST:D sounded like.
Orville: More in line with Trek production values and content than Trek is.
Also, did anyone else feel like throwing in a 'new' rehash of Sarek, and that Android on the Bridge made ST:D feel more like The Phantom Menace equivalent of a Trek premiere rather than an attempt at new direction for Trek? Nevermind the 'OMG Klingons!', which felt like a rehash of Enterprise, which itself was a reboot of the canon of the series. Have to wonder how Be'lanna Torres is ever going to get born with those fugly ass new Klingons. Or the Worf/Troi and Worf/Dax romance arcs.
it isn't "radical" to take a pro lgbtqxyz position right now, that is the current default position of establishment in west.
i think what you mean is star trek has a history of siding with the "liberal" "progressive" ideological position. doing that was once radical and risky. now that progressive liberalism is the ideology of establishment, it is neither risky or radical.
A la carte would be more like The Pirate Bay. Has everything, pick what you want and pay a reasonable fee for it. Ideally a flat monthly fee but per episode might be okay too, as long as it's not silly prices (hi Amazon, I'm not paying 2.99 per episode of Dexter, maybe 0.10).
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Was able to watch it on Netflix, so it seems that Netflix secured the streaming for some countries.
getting a starship close to the ATMOSPHERE, nevermind *IN IT* was a cause for major concern!!!
I guess you missed the pre-reboot movie where the Enterprise landed in Golden Gate Park.
I didn't know I chose to be Autistic because it was trendy nor that the people who post comments like that know more than the psychiatrists?
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I don't know why so many people seem to think that Michael is gender fluid or trans or something. Bryan Fuller always gives his female characters male names, it's his signature move. It doesn't imply anything, all the previous ones on other shows have been cis females.
Considering how some people denounced the show as some kind of SJW bullshit before it even aired, the first two episodes didn't have any hints that a single character was gay, trans or whatever. Is just being female or non-white enough to trigger people now?
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Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages.
What is replacing cable is certainly not "ala carte" by any means.
Example: I want to view exclusive content on Netflix. So now, I have to pay them for that right while ignoring the other 90% of content they offer that I have zero interest in. Tell me again how that is any different than being forced to pay for 200 cable channels I'll never watch in order to get access to desired content? Rinse and repeat this stupidity for the other dozen "exclusive content" providers, with more on the way.
In the end, consumers will likely end up paying twice as much per month to get the shows they want to watch, bundled with 500 years of crap they'll never watch. Due to death by 1,000 cuts, they'll gladly pay it too. Creative Marketing/Millennial Math will make a $10x12 streaming cost seem like a bargain, while a $120x1 cable cost was a "ripoff".
Yeah, I wanted to see this show. So the show - the visuals, I mean - was very pretty, the acting was terrible, the plot was positively drowning in angst (not uncommon for shows these days, sigh), the Klingons ridiculously slow to communicate (a warrior race that can only speak at turtle-like rates is pretty damn disadvantaged against humans) and the presentation was wounded mightily by commercials. Plus, what, yet another version of Klingons? Good grief. And the incompetence and lack of discipline on the part of the bridge crew, that was just... well, I'll call it "highly unlikely" in order to keep my language clean.
So we cancelled our CBS all-access subscription and will wait for the show to come out on bluray, assuming that happens (I expect it will.) We might even buy it at that point. Maybe the pain of the problems with these two episodes will have faded from memory by then...
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Discovery is not SF. It's fantasy. Bad fantasy.
No even slightly competent science advisor got anywhere near these plot lines.
Between that, the angst, the rather awesome lack of discipline and order among the bridge crew, the pointless nattering when serious matters needed addressing, and O lord, the inundation with commercials...
Ugh. Terrible. Bye bye, CBS-all-access.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
I didn't know I chose to be Autistic because it was trendy nor that the people who post comments like that know more than the psychiatrists?
Didn't you? That's okay, you can find plenty of "self-diagnosis" and "concerned individuals" who will tell you that you're autistic along with parents who will paint their kids the same for sympathy. Along with plenty of psychiatrists especially specializing in the upper-class who will happily do all of that for you. It's a booming industry in the latter case, especially in the upper-progressive class in most of the west.
But don't worry, I'm sure that this won't hurt the kids at all. Nope not at all, it sure won't fuck them up for life and they sure won't turn around and hate their parents either.
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Sorry, but with the level of medical tech that the ST universe has adult edge cases like that would be almost unimaginably rare. Especially cases caused by extra chromosomes as that would be easiest to fix permanently during childhood.
Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages.
I think you might be misunderstanding the complaint about wanted "a la carte" cable. The precise problem isn't that they have too many channels available to them. The problem is that the price of cable packages are high and rising, and people are saying, "If I'm paying $120 for 500 channels with thousands of shows, but I only watch 20 shows on 4 of those channels. Why can't I save some money by only getting the shows and channels I want?"
So now the content owners are saying, "Oh, you want a la carte, do you? Ok. We'll take those 20 shows that you want, put them each on a different streaming service. We'll charge $10/month for each service, and then in order to justify that price, we'll pack the service with a bunch of other shows that you don't care about. That's what you want, right?"
But no, having a la carte cable wasn't the goal, it was the means. The goal was to save money without losing access to the shows they want to watch. The idea was that maybe they could save money by sacrificing access to the crap they don't want. It doesn't help to give them a new distribution model that finds a different way to bundle crap we don't want, that ends up costing even more when you add it all up.
That was Fox, not SyFy. No less despicable for that. Firefly was the best SF-ish series show I've seen. Ever.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Pretty useless to link articles without linking the actual top10: http://uj3wazyk5u4hnvtk.onion/...
(alternate link may also work: https://thepiratebay.org/top/2... )
It's at the 6th place at the moment.
:wq
I did, and was happy to do it, on the chance that it might have been a good show - it can happen, witness Firefly.
Of course, now that I've seen how dismally bad those two episodes of Discovery were in so many ways, CBS-all-access gets the boot.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Well, transexuals are mentally ill, by definition.
It is a mental illness, that's why it requires psychiatric counseling before you can get your junk cut or be put on any type of medication and so on. Argue all you want, but if a person has gender dysphoria or body integrity identity disorder aka amputee identity disorder you have a mental illness. There is no fundamental difference between the two besides the individual "wanting to have a part cut off" or "believing that they aren't the same sex as their body."
There's nothing "bad" about that. Except for the people who believe it isn't a psychiatric problem, and would dissuade people from getting proper treatment.
Om, nomnomnom...
Well, they aired the same time, it's likely they were available on TPB at the same time, too. And people downloading ep1 will probably start downloading ep2 too, why wait?
I think the deciding moment will come when Ep3 comes out, where people will actually have seen the first two and decide based on this whether or not it's worth their bandwidth.
Because if it's not even worth the bandwidth, I doubt many would consider it a subscription...
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Republicans control both houses. Republicans are not progressive.
Trump controls the White House. He is definitely not progressive.
Seems to me that the political establishment is fairly far to the right in the US. Even the Democrats are on the right by European standards.
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You seem to know nothing.
When young children say they are trans, they are supported to live as their correct gender but there is no medication or surgery. That only starts when they hit puberty, after they have been living as that gender for some years, and even then it takes many years of living as their correct gender and sticking to the hormone medication before surgery begins.
It's not something a person can simply decide one day because it's "trendy", it's something you have to commit to living with for years. And when they are only 10, living with it for 5 years is half their life.
Is it really so surprising that state healthcare covers well established medical conditions? Are you also outraged that it covers "non-essential" stuff like prosthetics for men who had testicular cancer? Or is it just that you think it's not a real condition, in which case why do you disagree with the majority of medical experts?
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Many Federation starships could do atmospheric maneuvers. Both the Intrepid and Nova class could actually land.During the ST:D time, the ship are much more compact as well.
romulans warp technology so their ships could move at higher than sublight speeds (the original bird of preys were impulse only 'sub-like' patrol craft, as covered in... S3 of TOS
Season 1, Balance of Terror, but that episode was full of things that didn't make sense. Part of it was trying to show cold-war era audiences how advanced the modern weapons were by having them describe nuclear bombs as old, yet they still had a few of them on the Enterprise, in spite of having much more powerful (and stable) weapons. It also doesn't explain in any way how there could be a war between Earth and Romulus when the Romulans can only get a tiny fraction of the distance from their own star to the next one, yet the humans can easily get all of the way from Earth to Romulus (nor how you can even have a ship-to-ship battle that isn't totally one-sided when one side can travel faster than light and the other can't). In spite of various ship-to-ship battles, they manage to go the entire war without ever seeing a Romulan - or even recovering a Romulan corpse from a destroyed ship. No boarding actions, no attempts at invasion, yet apparently they were considered a scary enemy.
Finally, the entire premise of the episode - that they absolutely must catch the Romulans before they make it home because otherwise they'll launch a full-scale attack on the Federation makes no sense. Even if they did, it would be years before any Romulan war fleet made it anywhere near a Federation outpost, and at any point in this time the Federation could simply send half a dozen cruisers to drop out of warp, fire a bunch of photon torpedoes, and pop back into warp, as many times as required to destroy the fleet.
It's a recurring problem with SciFi that the writers often seem to have absolutely no sense of scale, but this episode was one of the worst in this regard. Subsequent writers have tried to fix this with various retcon shims, but short of simply pretending that it didn't happen at all, there's only so much that you can do...
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I seem to know nothing? Yet I can find plenty of examples of children under the age of 10 with parents pushing this on their kids as well. So can you, pick a search engine. You'll easily find those parents who're pushing their kids into it, show them off and "how proud they are" and so on. Not parents acting like a parent. Seems to me you know nothing on what's going on or that there's a push in this, that the media has made it into something trendy along with advocates of it.
That you can find news stories on those under-age kids not dressing up, not living their "correct gender." That those same kids who apparently "know they're the wrong gender" are legally unable to know the difference from right or wrong at the age of 10.
s it really so surprising that state healthcare covers well established medical conditions? Are you also outraged that it covers "non-essential" stuff like prosthetics for men who had testicular cancer? Or is it just that you think it's not a real condition, in which case why do you disagree with the majority of medical experts?
No, here's the thing. In our lovely socialized countries, a trans individual is being bumped to the top of the line for priority treatment while that person suffering from cancer is waiting a 1/3 of a year for treatment. They're also being bumped to the top of the line against that 40yr old worker with the torn out knee that's stopping them from going back to work and taking surgical time up in an already strained system. On top of that they're getting drug coverage, and covered by the state where the person who's on depression is paying out-of-pocket for their medication. Do you think any of that is reasonable, that a single person is granted preferential treatment vs more cases in a strained system?
You mean those same "majority of medical experts" that classify it as a mental illness which requires psychiatric treatment? Or the "experts" who turn around and claim that gender is whatever you're feeling like it is when you roll out of bed because that's also trendy?
Om, nomnomnom...
*6 months later*
Now they canceled the show because you intolerant nazis didn't watch!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
You know what the problem with transgenderism is right now? That it's trendy, just like autism was trendy a few years ago, and having gay kids were a few years ago too
So what you're saying is our society is governed by pop culture and we make real issues part of that as pop culture "trends". Could this have something to do with reality TV? Nahhhhhh... Idiocracy here we come! If only there were a society that promoted free thinking instead of being programmed by media. "There's that fag talk again" (Idiocracy reference)
We'll make great pets
I didn't know I chose to be Autistic because it was trendy nor that the people who post comments like that know more than the psychiatrists?
If you were autistic you most likely would not be able to make that coherent of a post. If you do have a condition on the autism spectrum it is probably Aspergers. It's a "high functioning" disorder on the autism spectrum. Yeah, some of us do know the subject matter. This is slashdot, news for nerds right?
We'll make great pets
the bigot speaks.
even though no one really cares what drivel pours out of its mouth.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Yes very progressive in the media and university establishment. And look at the government, so progressive in Europe. I mean just think how much shilling they go out for to protect islamists, covering up those rape gangs, burying their head in the sand over extremist imams. The same ones who'd turn around and kill that trans individuals or gays. And just look at that progressive media in the US, the ones not reporting on the mass murder by Emanuel Samson. You know the black guy, who's the equivalent of Dylan Roof and shot up that church full of whites. So progressive to cover up for the supremacist, I mean we really wouldn't want a "social outcry" like what happened when whitey shot up that black church.
It's kinda like feminism too. Which turns around and cozy's up with islamists and defends them so fiercely. The same islamists who'd turn around and demand that the "stupid whore should get that black bag on, and shut her mouth up." After all, those sharia courts that are running in the UK are also very progressive in many cases, per your own inquiry. They operate on the belief that women are eternal children. So progressive!
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the bigot speaks.
even though no one really cares what drivel pours out of its mouth.
Don't worry, you wouldn't know actual bigotry if it tried to cut your head off. Or started screeching that they need those masks so they can beat you for holding an unpopular opinion.
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The GP said the WEST is progressive. That goes beyond just the US (or the UK with Brexit).,
It's a nice idea, but the west is centrist.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
No it's not a mental illness. No more than being gay by definition.
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Last Ship is a fun show.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Aspergers no longer exists. It is now part of the bigger Autism label in the DSM
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When young children say they are trans, they are supported to live as their correct gender but there is no medication or surgery. That only starts when they hit puberty, after they have been living as that gender for some years, and even then it takes many years of living as their correct gender and sticking to the hormone medication before surgery begins.
The problem is the whole idea of a "correct gender", or the idea that "living as their correct gender" means treating them differently from any other child. Children learn that some genders are good or bad, appropriate or inappropriate, and then take that idea and run with it to an illogical conclusion: that it is better to undergo drastic surgery and at minimum have to take sex hormones forever (if there are not other complications, as there often are with surgery) in order to pretend to be something they are not, because they're not happy with the way they were born. People somehow get the idea that there's something wrong with them because they don't feel the way they are told that someone of their gender should feel. Then they have to get the ol' hack n' slash done to their goodies in order to feel good about themselves.
How about we do away with the gender role bullshit that society forces on people, instead of promoting fixing everything with surgery? I'm about as liberal as can be, and I'm in favor of people having the right to reassign their gender if they want to, but the situation where we make people feel bad about their goodies and then end up paying for them to have them remodeled is sick from stem to stern.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Netflix bought the international rights, and kept their word. I live in Europe. Yesterday morning I got a push message from my Netflix app saying it was available. No need for me to download the shows. Besides, on Netflix you can pick Klingon as your subtitle language.
Well, they aired the same time, it's likely they were available on TPB at the same time, too. And people downloading ep1 will probably start downloading ep2 too, why wait?
Not everyone has a magical internet connection. And the disparity between the download numbers is trivially explained; after downloading the first episode, most people felt no need to download the second. CBS has a huge flop on its hands, and may well kill Trek on TV dead. Thanks, Jar-Jar!
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Yet I can find plenty of examples of children under the age of 10 with parents pushing this on their kids as well. So can you, pick a search engine.
Finding examples of "parents pushing [gender transition] on their kids" with a search engine is problematic to say the least. You are talking about something that is a crime in most places, and which proving would require a detailed investigation that is likely to be beyond what a journalist could do on their own. It would need medical expert opinions at the very least.
All you get when you use a search engine is blogs making wild, unsubstantiated claims and some disreputable media sources that are little better.
Can you provide just one single example of a confirmed case of this happening?
That those same kids who apparently "know they're the wrong gender" are legally unable to know the difference from right or wrong at the age of 10.
It depends on the jurisdiction, but actually most places do try to involve children in medical decisions even when they are that young, or younger. I wasn't much older than that when I had to sign medical consent forms for surgery, and refusal would have resulted in my death (or legal intervention).
In our lovely socialized countries, a trans individual is being bumped to the top of the line for priority treatment while that person suffering from cancer is waiting a 1/3 of a year for treatment.
That's the "non-essential" argument I asked if you were making. You seem to be saying that cancer patients should get priority, and if that means diverting money from other treatments then so be it because cancer is life-threatening and represents a greater need.
However, no sane healthcare system works that way. I'm also going to have to ask for a citation that there is a line and transgender people at at the front of it.
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Because having a screaming fit when your pencils are mixed up is definitely a self-diagnosed super-power! Or are you just deciding your 'on the spectrum' because you're awkward and socially inept?
Only when I see people run bash.exe on Windows 10
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Well guess what uncomfortable men of slashdot?
...assuming that women, of all people, *wouldn't* be disturbed by the 24th century society? :-p
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Can you provide just one single example of a confirmed case of this happening?
You mean like the case of Thomas Lobel? Which started at the age of 3.
It depends on the jurisdiction, but actually most places do try to involve children in medical decisions even when they are that young, or younger. I wasn't much older than that when I had to sign medical consent forms for surgery, and refusal would have resulted in my death (or legal intervention).
Yeah and in most places, you can't consent until you hit the "mens rea" age. In most places that's the age of 12, a few places it's as low as 9. Even in places where it's under the age of 12, the courts routinely rule that the child is incapable of fundamentally understanding the situation before them.
You seem to be saying that cancer patients should get priority, and if that means diverting money from other treatments then so be it because cancer is life-threatening and represents a greater need.
And they should, and that's not happening.
However, no sane healthcare system works that way. I'm also going to have to ask for a citation that there is a line and transgender people at at the front of it.
Oh so naive. And if you think it's just in Canada, search in your own backyard and you'll find something similar.
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What bothered me most was the ungloved fist-like introduction of the characters. And all of them, without fail, stereotypes. Hello, I'm the nonstandard captain. Hello, I'm the faithful sidekick. Hello, I'm the nonbinary genderfluid ... well, that has to suffice for a character. Hello, I'm the alien.
That's not characters. You could get away with that in a TV show in the 1950s where the Indian was the Indian and the Cowboy was the Cowboy, but PLEASE, TV writing went a wee bit further by now. Who the heck designed these characters? Could they be any more bland and nondescript?
And they don't work together. There is zero chemistry, they don't "work" together. You get the feeling that you are dealing with people who just got thrown into a new project and don't yet know how to treat each other, when they have allegedly been together for years. Well, of course in reality they were, but c'mon, you are allegedly ACTORS! TNG solved this by throwing a new captain into the mix and, as everyone can relate, getting a new boss makes people act cautiously, not knowing what the new head honcho is like, that could have played out well here, too.
I usually sell good advice, this one is free: Can the shit and redo it. Here's how.
First, create a new character, an alien, and make it captain. It's only the logical next step in the development of commanding officers if you want to go down the "inclusive and diverse" road. We've had it all, except an alien captain. Make that race not quite as warlike as the Klingons, but make it a race that has some Klingon traits. The whole warrior code of honor thing comes to mind. And give them a reason to dislike Klingons, which should fit beautifully into the planned setting. It would also allow a lot of very interesting scenes with Saru's character, who such a captain would of course antagonize somehow but at the same time requires him and depends on him at the same time. It would allow some plot angles depicting how we have to work together with people whose personality or whose philosophy we can't stomach. Star Trek has always also been social commentary, and if there's ONE thing right now that we face as a social problem, it's exactly this.
If you really want to go overboard with it, make it a female captain and make the race she's from a very male oriented and dominated species which would again allow a lot of angles that can be explored. Like i said, ST has always been a social commentary on real life issues, so why not? There's plenty of space to develop that race and character, make them associate members of the federation with her leaving her race because she knew she wouldn't get anywhere with her own folks... that alone is enough material for at least 5 episodes.
The idea of making the first officer the focal point and the main character is good, keep that. We need an identification figure in that slot. What we need here is a Joe or Jane Everyperson that many in the audience can relate to. Make sure to make this character well detailed. Don't forget family, hobbies, quirks, the whole shit. This has to be the most detailed character. Gender and race are pretty much negligible in the end, but he or she has to have an aspect that everyone watching can somehow relate to. FFS, I hope you checked your viewer demographics before making this show, so model that character accordingly!
We need a main antagonist. Someone like Tomalak in TNG. That Klingon uniting the Empire comes to mind. Don't show him. Not in the first episode, not even in the first season. You needn't even cast an actor for him yet. Why would the big warlord show his face to those insignificant insects anyway? Megalomania is a good trait, and make him someone the other Klingons revere. Hitler would actually be a great role model for him, mostly because he did something very similar and it worked for very similar reasons.
Get rid of Sarek. Seriously. He's basically the magical negro deus-ex-machina, and if you really need something like this, well, get better writers. S
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
It's a mental illness, just like religion
Yeah it really is a mental illness. Unless you want to argue that the entire branch of psychology is wrong.
So let's roll with this: The "conscious self" says one thing, the physical body is saying something else. Will you now argue that someone who wants to cut off a part of their body to gain a disability doesn't have a mental illness? Is that not the very definition of a psychiatric problem?
Om, nomnomnom...
Well if you stopped choosing to be autistic for a moment you'd know!
/sarcasm
A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
Is that like saying "big boned" doesn't exist anymore, it's now under "obese"?
No wonder I'm getting less booty calls.
A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
Women generally are not freaking out and making life miserable for trans ladies. It is men as we are taught as young boys to bully feminine boys as they are weak. We then grow up and do the same to other adults who are different.
Ladies I talk to are mortified reading internet comments from guys. I guess feminine qualities are a virtue for them so they probably don't get it
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would dissuade people from getting proper treatment
Except that there is no "proper treatment" besides performing the operation.
If you had any clue about the topic you would not write such nonsense. Hint: read a bit how people end up in the wrong body, aka a body with the wrong sexual organs ... that might help.
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
Well, you can still be attacked and killed for taking that position publicly in certain areas here in the US, in the same way you can still be attacked and killed for being black. It may not be as common as it used to be, but it still happens, and it probably will as long as religious dogma is still around (unless everyone switches to a pacifist religion like Buddhist, Quaker, etc., but IMO it's more likely for people to give up religion completely than to do that).
Anyway, my point is that it's still risky, even if it's not considered radical anymore.
There is a difference. If I binge eat I am mentally ill? That is a disorder but it doesn't mean I am mentally ill. Homosexuality was once an illiness. Now a simple disorder
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No? Sure explains the TERF's then doesn't it. Better look those up if you don't know the term. Those women aren't out there punching people, but they're out there being psychologically abusive all the same. Boy's aren't taught to bully, boy's engage in bullying behavior because that's how most 'sort out' the pecking order. While girls do something similar it's almost always psychological. If you've never seen "mean girls" in action, you have no idea just how quickly that feminine virtue melts away in to a pile of demeaning personal attacks. And you know what? I'll bet that if I rattled off the most common psychological attacks that women engage in, you'll find nearly every one of those 'ladies' use them on a regular basis and find zero problems engaging in that abusive behavior either.
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Aspergers no longer exists
You're cured! Seriously, you are arguing that doctors decided to reclassify your condition going from the DSM-IV to DSM-V. You still have whatever it is you have. Do you prefer the label Autism? You have a condition, it is unique to you, do labels really matter? Who knows what they'll call you in the DSM-VI. And besides, I'm not seeing evidence of you having this disorder in this discussion. You could theoretically, obsessively respond to this thread but that would more or less diagnose you as having a common malady with the slashdot crowd.
You know what the biggest cause of discrimination is? Labels. As soon as you define one for one or more people and distinguish them as different, you paint a huge target on your back. I suspect the reason most people want so desperately to be diagnosed with these labels is to garner special treatment. Some legitimately have a condition and couldn't contemplate the idea due to cognitive impairment but you sure seem to have that capability.
We'll make great pets
Considering Trek has been off the air since 2005, what is dead may never die.
It does feel like someone turned a Mary-Sue Fanfic story into a TV show, doesn't it?
In case anyone's wondering, Michael is the Mary Sue Character.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
The "conscious self" says one thing, the physical body is saying something else.
From the very first sentence from your link:
Gender dysphoriaÂoccurs when there is a persistent senseÂofÂmismatch between oneâ(TM)s experiencedÂgender and assigned gender.
It doesn't imply that the mismatch is between a purely mental perception and a purely physical one. There are a huge range of conditions that cause parts of the body to more masculine or more feminine than other parts, including parts of the brain.
When people say it is a mental illness, they usually want to imply that it can be cured by talking therapies and the like, rather than by changing the person's gender. Most medical experts view that in the same light as "gay conversion" therapy.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
You're confusing 'Republican' with 'conservative'.
Right now the Republicans are the conservatives. But when they did all the things you listed they surely didn't further conservative ideals.
No, they didn't, since that was a Klingon Bird of Prey. But they missed the TOS episode where the Enterprise winds up in Earth's atmosphere circa 1967.
Short of the streaming-only shows, you can basically do that via iTunes, Amazon, Google Play and sometimes Vudu. It's the streaming exclusives that knock this out of whack, not to mention that you're going to pay exorbitant rates per episode.
Non-US Netflix is becoming more lucrative than US Netflix. Between The Expanse and Star Trek Discovery, I may have to find a good VPN to watch the stuff that being an American bars me from watching.
What is wrong with the Tammy Lobel case? It appears that she said she was a girl, her parents thought maybe she just made a mistake but she insisted. They sought medical advice, and eventually she started wearing girl's clothing, upon which:
"As soon as we let him put on a dress, his personality changed from a very sad kid who sat still, didn't do much of anything to a very happy little girl who was thrilled to be alive," Moreno said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/09...
How exactly is that her parents pushing her into anything, when they initially tried to discourage her?
As for your link, did you read it? There is a 2 year waiting list, that doesn't sound like "front of the queue" or priority over cancer patients. In fact the story doesn't imply that there is any priority given at all, it's about who is allowed to make referrals.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Children learn that some genders are good or bad, appropriate or inappropriate, and then take that idea and run with it to an illogical conclusion: that it is better to undergo drastic surgery and at minimum have to take sex hormones forever (if there are not other complications, as there often are with surgery) in order to pretend to be something they are not, because they're not happy with the way they were born.
Do you have some evidence of that? It doesn't sound like the way we understand children think about gender.
People somehow get the idea that there's something wrong with them because they don't feel the way they are told that someone of their gender should feel.
I'm not trans so I can only tell you what trans people say they feel, and that's not it. I do see your point - I'd be the first to reject the traditional notions of what a man or a women is or should feel, but that's not how people experiencing it describe it and I'm curious to know what you base the claim on.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
again: wrong.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
...and slashdot addiction ;-)
bigots gonna bigot.
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
In Vietnam. ðYZ
The problem with slashdot is that most of its users were bullied and stuffed into lockers as kids!
Mostly a Mary-Sue.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
whats it like in your fantasy world?
The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
Did not know this, but a quick google will confirm this.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0298188/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
Trade Marks:
All of his shows have at least one female character with a traditionally male name (Chuck in ''Pushing Daisies'', ''George in Dead Like Me'', Freddie Lounds in ''Hannibal'')
Is just being female or non-white enough to trigger people now?
Yes.
>> would dissuade people from getting proper treatment
> Except that there is no "proper treatment" besides performing the operation.
Please look into the variety of people, and of treatments that work for some, for gender dysphoria. The physical rebuilding of genitalia has profound medical risks, it is very expensive, and it requires lifelong medical support. There are as many effective "treatments" as there are varieties of transgender people. Sadly, there are also many ineffective treatments: their suicide rates remain high, whether or not they proceed with transsexual lifestyle or surgical alteration.
Son of a bitch! George isn't Chinese!
Is that like saying "big boned" doesn't exist anymore, it's now under "obese"?
No wonder I'm getting less booty calls.
I thought being big boned got you a job with an ex hamster.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
that might be a boy since it has the name Michael, but sometimes doesn't quite seem male enough to be a male, bothered me more than paying to stream it. What was it?
I've known more than one girl named Michael in my life. It's not unheard of. Some European countries pronounce the male version of the name "Michelle". Get over it.
"That's the way to do it" - Punch
They have to be primed by social media first.
People knew what they thought of this show before they saw it. As they increasingly know what to say about any topic before they've thought about it; they even know the exact language to use.
Social media have proven to be the greatest agent of social conformity in history.
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"They operate on the belief that women are eternal children."
Hmm, maybe they're onto something. Maybe it's more accurate to say that liberals are eternal children, and women tend to be strongly liberal, ergo...
Before the flame war starts and the conservatives try to mod me up while the liberals try to mod me down, it's a joke. I vote liberal, my wife is liberal, and I have no problem with making a joke at my own expense (or my wife's ;-). If you have a problem with it, maybe the joke hit too close to home, in which case you may have bigger problems than my poor jokes.
Anyway, I often feel the biggest problem with conservatives is that they never lighten up about anything. Too often they act like the stereotypical "angry old white men". So if you're liberal (or a woman) and feel insulted by this, don't act like an angry old white conservative man. Lighten up and take the joke the way it was intended.
Women generally are not freaking out and making life miserable for trans ladies. It is men as we are taught as young boys to bully feminine boys as they are weak. We then grow up and do the same to other adults who are different.
Ladies I talk to are mortified reading internet comments from guys. I guess feminine qualities are a virtue for them so they probably don't get it
Very insightful. Yes we're taught which only exacerbates the problem of boys bullying feminine boys, but in the larger context and time scales of evolution, I don't think this would be quite unnatural to instinct either. Looking at our immediate evolutionary ancestors and relatives the sexual dimorphism is fairly apparent but not as obvious as some species. Still, it's never that simple. Even more importantly than that, bullying transcends sex and gender, and carries many faces. The desire to dominate others are just our instinctual brutish attempts to rise to power through whatever means necessary.
It's not easy for everyone to rise above their nature to override their instincts. No matter how "civilized" society becomes. It'll always be a part of who we are. I haven't watched this star trek yet but that was one of the subtle themes I really, really latched onto in TNG. I found it interesting that humanity achieving such dazzling levels of civility and wisdom, elements of our primitive selves remained nonetheless.
It is 100% irrelevant if it is or it is not a mental illness. Presently, we have no treatment/correction so you are arguing semantics.
Democrats were against civil rights. Republicans have always been in support of minorities. At least until the Democrats rewrote history to make themselves not look as evil as they were.
1791 - The Democratic-Republican Party is formed by James Madison and Thomas Jefferson against Alexander Hamilton’s Federalist Party. The Democratic-Republicans strongly opposed government overreach and expansion, the creation of a national bank, and corruption.
1804 - Andrew Jackson purchases the plantation that will become his primary source of wealth.
1824 - The Democratic-Republican Party split. The new Democrats were supported by Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren, and the National Republicans were supported by John Quincy Adams and Henry Clay.
1828 - Andrew Jackson is elected President of the United States.
1830 - Andrew Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act, whereby the Cherokee and other native tribes were to be forcibly removed from their lands.
1831 - Cherokee Nation v. Georgia, whereby the Supreme Court ruled that Cherokee Nation was sovereign and the U.S. had no jurisdiction over Cherokee lands. Andrew Jackson had already started to enforce the removal of the Choctaw.
1832-33 - The Whig Party is formed in opposition to Jackson’s government expansion and overreach in the Nullification Crisis and the establishment of a Second National Bank. The Whig Party successfully absorbs the National Republican Party.
1838 - Many Indian tribes had been forcibly removed. Under Jackson, General Winfield Scott and 7,000 soldiers forced the Cherokee from their land at bayonet point while their homes were pillaged. They marched the Cherokee more than 1,200 miles to the allocated Indian territory. About 5,000 Cherokee died on the journey due to starvation and disease.
1854 - The Whig Party dissolves over the question of the expansion of slavery. Anti-slavery Whigs and anti-slavery democrats form the Republican Party with their sole goal being to end slavery.
1861 -The election of President Lincoln spurs the beginning of the Civil War.
1862 - Lincoln writes a letter where he declares he wishes to preserve the union regardless of the morals on slavery. He issues the Emancipation Proclamation, whereby all slaves in Union territories had to be freed. As states came under Union control, those slaves too had to be freed.
1863 - Frederick Douglass, former slave and famous Republican abolitionist, meets with Lincoln on the suffrage of emancipated slaves.
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1864 - Lincoln revised his position on slavery in a letter to Albert G. Hodges stating “If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.”
1865 - Confederate General Robert E. Lee surrenders at the Appomattox Courthouse to Union victory. After Lincoln’s Assassination, Democrat President Johnson issues amnesty to rebels and pardons the slave owners of their crimes.
1865 - The 13th Amendment which ended slavery passed with 100% Republican support and 63% Democrat support in congress.
1866 - The Klu Klux Klan is formed by Confederate veterans to intimidate black and Republicans through violence, lynching, and public floggings. They gave open support to the Democrat Party.
1866 - The Civil Rights Act of 1866 is vetoed by Democratic President Andrew Johnson. Every single Republican voted and overturned the veto.
1868 - The 14th Amendment which gave citizenship to freed slaves passed with 94% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress. The first grand wizard of the KKK, Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest is honored at the
1968 Democratic National Convention.
1868 - Representative James Hinds who taught newly freedmen of their rights is murdered by the KKK.
1870 - The 15th Amendment which gave freed slaves the right to vote passed with 100% Republican support and 0% Democrat support in congress.
1871 - The violence of the KKK grew so savage that congress passed the Enforcement Acts to repress their influence.
1875 - Democrat Senator William Saulsbury speaks out against the Civil RIghts Act of 1875, claiming it will allow “colored men shall sit at the same table beside the white guest; that he shall enter the same parlor and take his seat beside the wife and daughter of the white man, whether the white man is willing or not, because you prohibit discrimination against him.“
1884 - A train conductor orders Ida B. Wells, a black Republican woman, to give up her seat and move to the smoking car. Wells was an investigative journalist who worked for a Republican journal to expose the horror of lynching. She advocated for the 2nd amendment rights for blacks so that they could protect themselves, and she denounced the Democratic Party for treating blacks as property unequal to whites.
1892 - Democrat Benjamin Tillman is re-elected to the Senate. He was a white supremacist who boasted his participation in lynchings. He is quoted saying that “as long as the Negroes continue to ravish white women we will continue to lynch them.”
1915 - Democrat President Woodrow Wilson screens KKK promotion film Birth of a Nation. The film pictured blacks as ignorant and violent savages, and the Klu Klux Klan as rescuers and protectors of the civilized world. The popularity of the movie revived the Klu Klux Klan which had previously gone extinct. Reportedly Wilson said about the film that “[it] is like writing history with lightning, and my only regret is that it is all so terribly true.”
1919 - The 19th Amendment which officially gave women the right to vote passed with 82% Republican support and 54% Democrat support in congress.
I was watching the premiere with my father, and he commented "You know, they can switch to English any time now." (because he doesn't like reading subtitles). However, you could really tell that the actors went through the trouble to learn the Klingon language, but they all sounded like their fake teeth were getting in the way of the dialog. The same thing happened to the early episodes of TNG with the Ferengi.
Don't worry about the changes in the Klingon physiology. If they stick to canon, they will start to look more and more human so they can meet up with Kirk at Space Station K-7.
The director doesn't seem to be dedicated to the timeline of when this happens. Discovery is supposed to take place a bit before TOS, however, the bridge design is nothing like TOS or ENT, even though the Captain says that the Shenzhou is old. The bridge sound effects are all over the place. They seem to have the scanner sounds from TOS, but the Hailing Frequency scan from TNG. There are also a lot of TNG sounds scattered around the bridge, but the transporter sound and door squeak are from TOS.
Oh, and when did Daft Punk join the Federation?
Sorry, but that would a) require basic technical competence, b) doesn't generate ad revenue and c) doesn't make the UI look more modern(*), so it's low priority. Don't hold your breath.
(*) Noticed how the moderation dropdown is now a uselessly flat, javascript driven dropdown, once you click it?
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Ah, you are also 'in the spectrum'. I wondered why I found all of your comments in this thread so clearly formulated and well thought out.
Now it is obvious: you mostly use your brain to think instead of your guts, just like me.
Wenn ist das Nunstueck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput.
I saw Ep1 last night (legally, on Netflix). Nice CGI, but the rest of it was largely terrible. Unsure I'll bother with Ep2, or anything after. Crap plot, crap characterisation, crap acting. Compare this with the new Expanse (which also had its flaws), only one is really Science Fiction, and that would be the Expanse hands down. Looking forward to the third series, but I really don't care to see anything more of "STD".
A mental disorder is a mental illness, just like a sexually transmitted infection is a sexually transmitted disease. The industry rotates through terms so as not to offend people when accurately describing them. See crippled, dumb, lame, retarded, etc.
Be careful trying to play that word game. The main thing we're talking about here is DSM-V defined mental disorders (homosexuality is not one, but gender dysphoria is). If you want to say that's just a "disorder", then by psychological definition also realize that another "disorder" is pedophilia. Want to argue pedophiles aren't mentally ill because pedophilia is "just a disorder"? Or are you just completely untethered from any kind of formal definition used by mental health professionals and just asserting what you "feel" is a disorder or an illness, therefore that wouldn't be true. (This isn't meant to impugn trans- folks, I'm very pro-LGBT, it's just this guy is playing stupid word games)
Amen, brother.
Both great shows, btw.
And what happened? Democrats realized that was horribly wrong and turned away from racism, while Republicans said "hey that's a pretty good thing!" and took over the racist mantle. Among people alive today, the right is more racist than the left by orders of magnitude. So whine about the past all you want, like it excuses the abhorrent bigotry of the right today.
You seem to know nothing.
When young children say they are trans, they are supported to live as their correct gender but there is no medication or surgery. That only starts when they hit puberty, after they have been living as that gender for some years, and even then it takes many years of living as their correct gender and sticking to the hormone medication before surgery begins.
It's not something a person can simply decide one day because it's "trendy", it's something you have to commit to living with for years. And when they are only 10, living with it for 5 years is half their life.
Is it really so surprising that state healthcare covers well established medical conditions? Are you also outraged that it covers "non-essential" stuff like prosthetics for men who had testicular cancer? Or is it just that you think it's not a real condition, in which case why do you disagree with the majority of medical experts?
Did you know that in over 95% of the cases of gender dysphoria in children, if they just bear with their biological sex, by the time they're adults they're basically fine and are glad they never did anything drastic? Nowadays studies like this are largely ignored and people are performing irreversible hormone treatments that surgeries that have yet to show any evidence of improving their wellbeing. For example, 40% of people with gender dysphoria have attempted suicide, irrespective of whether they're made the full change or not, and the researchers controlled for whether they were supported/treated well by their families and social circle.
Your examples of established medical conditions are things that we have achieved a level of understanding of, while there are many things we've yet to understand about the effects of sex changes, so a "majority of experts" doesn't mean much when you only see a small piece of the puzzle. Besides, what makes a child qualified to know what its mental gender is when he/she has basically zero experience living as a man or woman (irrespective of its biological sex) when it's been alive for so short a time and hasn't actually experienced much of life in general? Some psychologists claim that having a stable environment where men are men and women are women (amongst a host of other things) is far more beneficial to the development of all children than giving into their every whim at a phase where some children want to be trucks and flowers when they grow up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... I'm happy to argue that the definition of mental illness is fluid, and entirely open to debate
It is men as we are taught as young boys to bully feminine boys
It's funny that nobody taught me this. I feel cheated! :-p Should have been born in the US or something?
Ezekiel 23:20
By the way, there's a decent chance that discrepancy between body and mind is exactly one of those things that won't be one of the 24th century issues, just like many other peculiarities of human biology that we accept as a fact of life until we can do something with them even before they become a problem. When I was referring to people being "disturbed by the 24th century society", what I had in mind is the differences we can't even begin to imagine yet. Just like you could easily have "progressive" 17th century people gasping at our 21st century society for a number of reasons. Hence my earlier comment on projecting our own contemporary notions as being in any way important for a future almost half a millennium from now.
Ezekiel 23:20
Do you even know what gender reassignment surgery is? It's not about cutting bits off, they get remodelled into other bits. How do you think they create the desired genitalia?
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
And just look at that progressive media in the US, the ones not reporting on the mass murder by Emanuel Samson.
As far as I can tell, everyone reported on that. The reporting tends to cool off a bit if (as in this case) the guy has been caught.
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I'd be the first to reject the traditional notions of what a man or a women is or should feel, but that's not how people experiencing it describe it and I'm curious to know what you base the claim on.
Yes, yes it is, and perhaps you should do some more reading before making declarative statements, since mine are based on things people have actually said while yours is based on what you imagine that people have not said.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
When compared to the "Traditional East" (why do we even use this language anymore) of Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, India and China... where gays are jailed or executed, marriages are forced, women are traded, castes and careers are planned by birth... the Western European and American countries are quite progressive.
So what? Compared to John Wayne Gacy, Trump is barely even a criminal. If you get near a point, then make it.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Are you really citing "Catholic Authenticity" as a source for claims about how people experience being transgender?
Perhaps you might try a published, peer reviewed study instead.
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Perhaps you might try a published, peer reviewed study instead.
There are literally transgendered people who say they only get the reassignment surgery because of the way they are treated by society if they don't do it. If you want to ignore them, fine, but don't pretend like you give a fuck about them if that's the way you operate.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
The problem is that it's like asking someone who considered homosexuality to be a test sent by god and a sin what it's like being gay. Their religious beliefs strongly influence their feelings and they don't represent the majority of gay people.
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I love Republican revisionism! Next you'll tell us the civil war has nothing to do with slavery or that supply-side economics really works!
Actually if you take a long hard look at the federation they are communists capitalism has been thrown out of the window. If you want the conservatives try the Ferengi :D
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
My question is what are people sending from thats putting unicode in? Most people manage punctuation just fine here. You even drew an arsehole with it (*). Or is this just people trying to be clever and doing it themselves? I don't know though because it seems he got autocorrected were to we're.
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Transgendered folks as much as they make you uncomfortable are here. Star Trek wants to portray them in a future where we overcome differences which is the spirit of the series.
Except that transgender folks don't exist in a practical sense! There are handfuls of intersex persons in the population that have a legitimate biological difference. No thinking person has problem with them. If an 85 pound 5ft tall woman told you she was fat you'd say she had an body image or eating disorder. Its the same thing if someone with penis tells you they are a girl, they have body image disorder. They are not a girl.
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I guess it's mobile devices doing it just because they can. ASCII is so archaic.
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Gay conversion therapy has actually worked for lots of people. The problem is its been mostly practiced by people who are unqualified to do so; so its got a bad name.
There are a huge range of conditions that cause parts of the body to more masculine or more feminine than other parts
While this may be true their frequency in the population does not come anywhere near the number of people who currently claim to be transgender. Essentially yes most of these people probably could and should be treated with a mixture of therapy and less invasive drugs like mood stabilizers, not the extreme measure of gender conversion. Which by the way has been show over and over again to do nothing to address the state of depression and other conditions these individuals have, which suggests its a not a route cause of the "discomfort" experienced by these people. This is further evinced by the number of people who 'transition' back.
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One of the earliest, but not the earliest.
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The vast majority of these posts are either thinly veiled complaints about a female black lead, which, frankly, STFU, you are objectively wrong, and would be, even if you hadn't completely missed how good this actress is, given you failed to recognize her as Sasha from the Walking Dead.
The rest are either Bitching that the show is 1. Too modern trek action style over substance. 2. Too SJW echo chamber snowflake touchy-feelyness.
Mutually exclusive positions like this generally mean polarized people are reading into it what they want to, so, stuff that as well.
It's got action, it's got star trek exploration of moral and cultural issues. Because it is Trek. The lead is, FFS, not a Vulcan, she's a human raised by Vulcans for a time, struggling between two cultures, She is basically reverse Spock, and that's at lest an idea worth looking at. She's not gender fluid or trans or whatever, she simply has a name that sounds masculine to us in this century, Marion used to be a male name less than a hundred years ago (Famously, the Duke's real name). Is it that weird that a masculine name would become unisex in 200 years? isn't that exactly the sort of world building detail that Star Trek would include? I'm reminded of the famous, "wouldn't they have cured baldness in the future?" question given to Rodenberry, to which the response was, "in the future, they wouldn't care".
There's a lot of hate here that seems weirdly misplaced.
The lead isn't a Mary Sue, in no small part because that would require her to be amazing at everything, when it's perfectly clear that she is in fact massively insecure about not being amazingly perfect at everything (because raised by VULCANS) and fucks up several (reasonably believable) times.
Some characters are thinly drawn, but my understanding is that most of the "crew" in the pilot are guest stars, and the actual ship and crew are due to be introduced in Epp3, so they were all basically redshirts and I can live with that.
The physics is a bit hit and miss, sure, but t'was ever thus with trek.
As for the Klingons, only the one ship, led by the religious fanatic, covered themselves in coffins, because, hey, RELIGIOUS FANATIC!
I will agree with one major gripe though, the Klingons (and they are not "new" they are the ones from the shoddy "Into Darkness" movie) are so badly awful looking, so horribly done, I think they gave me cancer. Fecking Ctrl-Z that change.
In articles promoting the show the character Michael has specifically been referred to as sporting a "gender fluid name."
Eh... but already at current tech you have people decrying the tests for downs syndrome and so on, aligning it with eugenics. In Star Trek, whose backstory has eugenics wars, they may have some rather unique ethics about messing with babies and what counts as a defect. DS9 went into it a little bit with Bashir but I'm afraid I don't recall all the details.
Aspergers no longer exists
You're cured! Seriously, you are arguing that doctors decided to reclassify your condition going from the DSM-IV to DSM-V. You still have whatever it is you have. Do you prefer the label Autism? You have a condition, it is unique to you, do labels really matter?
Sure they do. Labels (symbols) are how we communicate. In most cases, these labels are collaboratively constructed by the whole society, and evolve over time. If you want to communicate, you need to keep up. For example, while I don't use "sick" to describe something appealing or good, I understand it when my kids do. In cases of technical jargon, there is sometimes a professional body that defines the meaning of terms, which is definitely the case with autism and Asperger's Syndrome. If you want to communicate clearly and accurately about issues within a certain space, you should use the terms as defined by the relevant body.
That said, Billly Gates is wrong about what DSM-V says. It does not eliminate Asperger's Syndrome as a diagnosis, nor does it call Asperger's "autism". Instead, it defines a set of pervasive developmental disorders which include autism and Asperger's, as well as several others, as the "autism spectrum". Asperger's and autism are separate diagnoses, but they both fall within a category of diagnoses called "autism spectrum disorders". So to be very precise, Billly Gates should not say that he is autistic, but that he has an autism spectrum disorder.
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Be careful trying to play that word game. The main thing we're talking about here is DSM-V defined mental disorders (homosexuality is not one, but gender dysphoria is). If you want to say that's just a "disorder", then by psychological definition also realize that another "disorder" is pedophilia. Want to argue pedophiles aren't mentally ill because pedophilia is "just a disorder"? Or are you just completely untethered from any kind of formal definition used by mental health professionals and just asserting what you "feel" is a disorder or an illness, therefore that wouldn't be true. (This isn't meant to impugn trans- folks, I'm very pro-LGBT, it's just this guy is playing stupid word games)
The implication is trans people are just crazy and need meds to get better and therefore do not deserve rights or be recognized as being wired differently than typical men. That is the problem and why it's being moved to a disorder which carries a different meaning than an illness which is a threat to him or herself or others.
Calling someone mentally ill is very offensive and encourages prejudice and sexism. If you say oh that programmer needs to be fired as she is mentally unstable etc. A disorder is not someone unstable and an incorrect view re-enforces stereo types
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Worse when you call it an illness rather than a disorder it implies something different medically and legally. If you view someone being mentally ill it gives a green light for HR to fire him or her and not worry about being sued as this person is a threat to herself and others and had to be eliminated etc.
If it is a disorder then it is an acknowledgement that perhaps the brain is wired differently and now you can't fire someone from being trans or discriminate and need to make reasonable work accommodations.
Last, it is frankly offensive to call someone mentally ill. I mentioned aspergers/autism in the thread here. I have a disorder. However, I am not mentally ill and would take great offensive if someone implied this or if I lost my job due to it and have no protection.
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We can also ask racially privileged people if they are racist, and see how that goes. They won't even know they're racist, right?
Most of us are lying to ourselves just to get through the day. I offer as evidence: reality. Just look around at how disconnected people are from their existence. I don't mean in any hippie-dippie way about connection to the dirt or whatever, but in terms of control of their destinies. Most of us (myself included) exert a lot less control over that than we could, instead preferring to let someone else make our decisions for us because we only have so much energy and choose to spend it somewhere else.
I didn't make this up. I don't pretend to know what percentage of people it applies to, though, and I'm firmly in favor of people having the right to make basically whatever changes to their body they find necessary. I do think that we should probably prioritize some other health conditions above gender dysphoria, though; there's only so much health care money to go around, and if we spend other people's health care dollars on that then we can't be spending those particular dollars on things like cancer treatments. But I absolutely believe in people's right to self-modification on the basis that it's their body.
I feel there's something deeply wrong with the basic assumptions around gender when we children who are born with both types of organs have to be assigned one gender or another at the whim of a doctor and parents, let alone when we start assigning positive and negative attributes to gender roles. But as long as groups of women or men punish groups of men or women (etc, etc.) for being born with a certain gender, there's going to be people who feel bad about what they are because they're brought up in an environment where they're punished for it. There's been plenty of people throughout history who have wanted to change the color of their skin not because they thought they'd be prettier (although plenty of people have thought that, of course) but because they'd live a better life. Why are you so resistant to the idea that some people would like to change their gender for the same reason? We have no trouble believing that making suicide easier increases suicide rates, and people want to control guns on that basis, but we can't believe that making sex changes more available and socially acceptable is going to increase their rates?
We can tell children with a straight face that they're wonderful just the way they are, but we can also tell children that if they're not happy with what they are, they should just change it? And that if people don't help them change what they are, then they're suffering an injustice? I maintain that if we treat people like shit no matter what they are or how we feel about them, that's the injustice.
I'm not actually even against a national health care system covering gender reassignment. I just want to see it cover life-threatening illness and basic preventative health care for everyone, first.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
You can often buy season passes to shows on iTunes or Amazon. That's probably about as close as you'll get to a la carte. It ends up being cheaper to buy a streaming sub and binge the show if you're even mildly interested in anything else in their streaming package.
History lesson: All the far right win democrats switched to the GOP. All but Byrd.
The right wing were historically democrats before FDR. THe left and center were republicans. FDR ran as a liberal democrat to win the south (which at the time refused to vote for the party of Lincoln) and being liberal could win northern states. The 1964 Civil Rights act switched politicians to opposite parties as the south said screw the no party of Lincoln mantra we need to discriminate and keep white power and joined the GOP and supported Nixon in protest. Reagan took the rest over by 1980 as Jimmy Carter was too liberal for the south
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It appears that iOS 11 is doing it. Itâ(TM)s very annoying.
The show seemed to be designed to appeal the critics, but not the viewer. So the professional critics have a lot of praise for it, but the actual viewer reaction seemed more tepid.
It isn't bad, but it isn't great. I actually got more joy from The Orvil,
Discovery seemed to be an attempt to make Star Trek as an artistic expression (bluntly shown during the intro, with the artistic sketches of the star trek icon, and images) , The font in the Klingon subtitles, that just made it that hard to read, but looked nice (Combined with the Klingons slurring everything like they had marbles in their mouth)... It was all about trying to make a serial escapism drama into an artistic expression.
If it was on my normal streaming services Netflix, Hulu.... I would give it a chance, to see if they settle down and try to make a good show, but having to pay money for just one show isn't worth it.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Can't help but notice the dislike of the "single producer streaming source" essentially conflicts with the quite-recent desire for "ala carte" cable without enforced packages.
In cable television, a la carte reasonably refers to the practice of being able to purchase access to channels, because that's how cable television is organized; channels, and bundles of channels. In internet "television", a la carte reasonable refers to the practice of being able to purchase access to episodes; not only because this is how we're used to handling digital media, but also because this is how digital media has traditionally been sold.
Unfortunately, DRM really ruins that. You have to trust that whoever you're buying the viewing rights is going to be around for as long as you expect to want to be able to authenticate that video file, assuming a file is even delivered to you. I "bought" an episode of Babylon 5 on Amazon Prime because I couldn't conveniently get it elsewhere. It was only one episode so it wasn't a lot of money even though the price-per-episode is a bit steep, and it served my needs at the time so I spent the money. But I have to trust that Amazon will stick around and that they will retain the rights to distribute that video and that they will distribute that video for as long as I think I'm going to care about it in order to justify the "purchase".
And that's why services like TPB still exist. People will pay a nickel or a dime to watch a TV show that they don't have any expectation of being able to rewatch for free. They'll pay a lot more for a piece of physical media without phone-home DRM, because they assume they'll be able to watch again. The little bit of streaming content that is actually available on a per-episode basis tends to be overpriced. Or you can just go torrent it, and you're done. You have the content for as long as you can hang onto it. Content that people would pay a nickel or dime or maybe even a quarter for to watch now, and then maybe pay again to watch it again later is just getting downloaded instead, producing no revenue now — and no revenue later. Reminds me of a RATM lyric...
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Don't worry about the changes in the Klingon physiology. If they stick to canon, they will start to look more and more human so they can meet up with Kirk at Space Station K-7.
I thought they already retconned that as Klingons disguised as Humans?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Maybe it's replacing ' with ’ ?
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Can't happen. This is after Enterprise, where the Klingons changed in appearance because of the augment virus and the cure for it.
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It's not a mere matter of talking to people. It's a matter of re-architecting society to remove gender biases and meet people's mental, social, and emotional needs so that people aren't being abused in both overt and subtle ways by those around them for what's between their legs, regardless of what it is; male, female, both, neither, or something not-as-yet-imagined.
The best you'll accomplish by talking to the victim of abuse is that they can learn to live with ongoing abuse. The rates of suicide among the transitioning and transitioned suggest that this approach is insufficient. If we're going to solve the problem it's got to be solved by talking to (or otherwise convincing) the abusers instead.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
episode 1 was clumsy. Ep2 was actually good. seems like the acting got better to me in Ep2 and it was less clumsy.
Not everyone has a magical internet connection.
Not everyone has a television, computer, or food, clean water, shelter and basic health services.
I am not trying to bleeding heart, but trying to point out that just because some people doesn't have something, doesn't always mean we need to be fully accommodating to everyone.
I am OK, with STD being streaming only. However I am not going to pay for CBS streaming service where I already have Netflix, Hulu and Amazon (And I think that is too much, but it is better then getting expensive cable), just for one show, that after watching, I wasn't really too excited about.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
trans individual is being bumped to the top of the line for priority treatment while that person suffering from cancer is waiting a 1/3 of a year
Does not sound plausible.
Which line would that be? Since when are surgical operations done by the same team that does cancer treatment?
They're also being bumped to the top of the line against that 40yr old worker with the torn out knee that's stopping them from going back to work and taking surgical time up in an already strained system
In which country do you live that the medical system is "strained" like this?
You mean those same "majority of medical experts" that classify it as a mental illness which requires psychiatric treatment? Or the "experts" who turn around and claim that gender is whatever you're feeling like it is when you roll out of bed because that's also trendy? ...
You know what we need? A pill or an injection that we can give morons like you. So you wake up next morning as a woman in a mans body. Then we could laugh about you and tell you how mental ill you are and that you only need a psychiatric treatment, counseling twice a week for 40 minutes, after two years you will accepted that you are a man
I really don't get how people can be as dumb as you are ...
Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
I do. Sonequa Martin-Green is black, and many white people perceive black women, particularly athletic ones, as unfeminine. Case in point, Michelle Obama. In fact the truly lunatic fringe believes she actually *is* a man.
This is not an entirely objective question; it's an emotional reaction. Some men might be put off by Serena Williams awe-inspiring physique, others aren't. Some would look at coltish Martin-Green in a boyish haircut and unisex uniform as androgynous, and her blackness would be just enough to put it over the edge.
This isn't purely a matter of racism; if you're a man your judgment of a woman's femininity is tied up with how attractive you find her, and studies show that you are more likely to be attracted to people who resemble you or one of your parents.
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"Will you now argue that someone who wants to cut off a part of their body to gain a disability doesn't have a mental illness?"
This is, of course, a deliberate mischaracterization to advance an ignorant point of view.
"Is that not the very definition of a psychiatric problem?"
No, it is not, which is trivially easy to verify.
"Unless you want to argue that the entire branch of psychology is wrong."
Wouldn't be the first time. It's not as though psychology has a strong record of scientific success.
Definitions of words and terms are not all that interesting. Pigeon-holing transsexuals as mentally ill allows you to dismiss them and feel better about your bigotry.
Left-handedness was once considered the sign of the devil. Perhaps it still should be?
"Now a simple disorder"
LOL will the stupidity never end
"Likely yes, because there's other things that have likely triggered that behavior."
I suspect every time you open your mouth everyone around you gets a little dumber.
It appears everything to you can ultimately be reduced to a "mental disorder"
"Want to argue pedophiles aren't mentally ill because pedophilia is "just a disorder"?"
Why not? Shouldn't facts be more important than your emotional investment?
People should be judged by what they do, not how they feel. Feeling a certain way is not inherently a mental illness.
I'd just like to point out that those of us who DVR'd the premiere were in for some disappointment: some football game ran late and the show aired off of schedule. How many of those pirates torrented the show just to find out how it ended?
You forget that it was conservatives who upheld the Jim Crow laws in the deep south, they most certainly were not at all liberal and they strongly opposed equal rights. When they dumped the Democratic party because of civil rights legislation and joined the Republicans, they pushed the Republicans to be conservative.
You think because Al Gore's father had certain beliefs that he inherited them? It's almost a truism that children push away from their parents's beliefs in a way to assert their independence.
Robert Byrd strongly denounced the KKK and claimed that joining them was the biggest mistake in his life.
No, what happened is that the segregationists left the Democratic party and joined the Republicans (with a stopover with the Dixiecrats). Being Democrat or Republican is not a genetic thing; you are allowed to switch parties. It happens quite a lot. Parties are always on the move and changing their core beliefs, and the defacto two party system that's evolved means that both parties are always juggling issues so that we end up with a roughly 50/50 split in the voting public.
Buddhism isn't pacifist, look at what's happening in Burma now. If you say those are people who misunderstand Buddhism or aren't practicing it correctly, then why not apply that apologism to Christianity?
How's life in the hypocrite lane?
"But your boy got breast", Female hormones started at age 12, now they want to reverse it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Oh and stop using your sock puppet accounts.
The Orville is Trek done right. Some laughs and a PC-ectomy making it television that is entertainment and not social engineering. Fuck the new Trek. FYI, I bet the ship was named after Howard Thomas Orville, the first man to survey the entire Antarctica coast and considered the Father of Radar Weather.
Sisko was a fucking hack. It was every other character on DS9 that made it what it was. Sisko was just there for the ride, being... I don't know, fucking weird all the time. Took him the entire first season just to get over the "I've only ever been an extra on shitty 80's shows" bad acting. He's basically just portraying a brain damaged and unnecessarily emotional black person for 7 seasons.
It's time to make some JAMBALAYA HUEH HUEH!
It was good enough for Tyndale, Shakespeare & Paine.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
position of establishment in west
I'm sorry, only the US is talking about shit like that right now.
hush! You'll set the jews off.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
You see it a lot when people copy and paste (including the editors) freom other sites. I think they're "special" quotes that are asymmetric - opening ones like sixes, closing ones like nines. Apparent;y they look prettier.
If you're bored, try some of the examples here. Some will work and some won't.
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Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Valid point. I was actually half-joking when I mentioned pacifist religions. Atheism seems to be the best option as far as religion goes. I'm not saying all atheists would be peaceful, but it would remove one very common excuse people use for violence.
But if you feel it's important to be Christian with a capital C, you could still be a Quaker. Yes, another half-joke.
Are you trying to say that those aren't archaic?
CLI paste? paste.pr0.tips!
Except if you go watch or read the interviews with the actor playing Michael the reason they give is that they wanted to indicate that gender fluidity is part of the future.
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Richard Nixon was raised a Quaker. He did join the Navy though, and ordered bombings in Cambodia while president.
Sorry that would be white nationalists. Conservative = Constitutional textualists.
I know, and you're nit-picking. I actually attend a Quaker church as an atheist attender (some Quaker churches are ok with that, some are not), so I may know quite a bit more about them than you do. But then again, for all I know you may be a birth-right Quaker. Regardless, exceptions like that do not prove the rule. You could've made a better point with the fact that the Quaker church is split into 3 different branches that can't seem to agree with each other. One of the branches is even evangelical, and seems to have little in common with the other 2 except for the name. Either way, their primary tenet is peace, and the Quakers I know (first-hand, not read about) express plenty of regret and embarrassment over Nixon and his role in Vietnam.
As far as Christians go, IMO Quakers are by far the nicest, the most welcoming, and have the most religious integrity. They're actually quite content to discuss different views and beliefs with members of other religions (including atheism), and even respect those other views and beliefs as long as you're not attending to disrespect theirs. Naturally that's not true for every member of every Quaker church (definitely not the evangelical branch), and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'm sure I would find similar issues and differences if I took a closer look at Buddhism. As with anything else in life that's not black-and-white (and very little seems to be), YMMV.
The GP said the WEST is progressive. That goes beyond just the US (or the UK with Brexit).,
It's a nice idea, but the west is centrist.
The west used to be centrist, but the sad reality is we've been solidly goose-stepping further right for the last 20 or 30 years. In Clinton's era, the US would have never considered a nationalist like Trump, let alone Europe and Clinton was definitely right of Eisenhower.
The West desperately needs to move back to the centre, but that wont happen whilst people are buying hate and it's best buddies, xenophobia and jingoism by the tonne.
Personally I have no issue with the right or the left (third way personally) until either side goes too far. Currently, most western governments have gone too far to the right.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Wasn't Freddie originally a male character?
Ezekiel 23:20
It's a pretty decent assumption that remakes or wannabe-continuations of works from the 1980s or 1990s will be crap. Nothing priming-worthy about that; it's perfectly sufficient to survive several periods of the hope-disappointment cycle to become a cynic.
Ezekiel 23:20
You're shifting around definitions. You definition would imply that there was no such thing as a conservative before the constitution was written, or that there are no conservatives in other countries who don't care about the particular constitution in the US. Or are you trying to create a No True Scotsman definition?
You definition would imply that there was no such thing as a conservative before the constitution was written,
In terms of the American conservative movement of course. To be precise the movement didn't even exist before the civil war
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Don't blame me for shifting definitions when you don't even know what they are.
bigots gonna bigot.
Retard gonna retard. Don't worry when current society passes you by, and you're left wondering what's happening.
Om, nomnomnom...
You aren't autistic, thats the first problem you have. Your problem is you want to be a victim and have excuses. Autism diagnosis became a dime a dozen a few years back, now half the fucking country says 'I have autism' when in reality, you have no such thing you're just looking for excuses to be a douche.
If you go to a shrink and say 'I think I have autism' you'll walk out with a diagnosis, same about your kids.
Trendy != reality
Oh look it's Mr. fucking autism diagnosis expert spewing out his usual bullshit. Let's all listen in awe to what this fucktard has to say...