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FCC Chief Tells Apple To Turn on iPhone's FM Radio Chip (cnet.com)

FCC Chairman Ajit Pai pushed Apple on Friday to activate the FM radio chips in the iPhone. From a report: In the wake of three major hurricanes that have wiped out communications for millions of people over the past month, Pai issued a statement urging Apple, one of the largest makers of cellphones in the US, to "reconsider its position, given the devastation wrought by Hurricanes Harvey, Irma, and Maria." FM radios that are already included in every phone could be used to access "life-saving information" during disasters, he said. For years the majority of smartphones sold in the US have included FM radios, but most of them have been turned off so that you couldn't use the function. Why? Mobile customers would be a lot less likely to subscribe to streaming music services if they could just listen to traditional, free broadcast radio. This incentive is especially true for Apple, which has a streaming music service. Apple said in a statement: "iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 models do not have FM radio chips in them nor do they have antennas designed to support FM signals, so it is not possible to enable FM reception in these products."

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  1. Turn it on, will not work by WillRobinson · · Score: 5, Informative

    No internal antenna.

    1. Re:Turn it on, will not work by freeze128 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Head of FCC tells Apple to bring back the headphone jack. That's what the headline should say.

    2. Re:Turn it on, will not work by TexasDiaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When Apple removed the audio jack in the iPhone 7, they removed the ability to plug in an antenna to the device - in Android devices, you have to plug wired headphones into the audio jack to act as the antenna for the radio. But why would the FCC chairman blow smoke out his bunghole without speaking directly to them first? Is it some unwritten requirement that they have to publicly shame themselves rather than putting on their big-boy pants and actually directly talking to someone? It seems like if you're the head of the FCC you can find a technical contact at Apple to speak to before being an ass about it.

    3. Re:Turn it on, will not work by reboot246 · · Score: 2

      Lots of people don't have the latest, greatest iPhones. They still own phones WITH the audio jack, so it would benefit millions.

      Apple's answer referred to the iPhone 8, like that's the only version out there. They wish.

    4. Re:Turn it on, will not work by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      So simply require that they put it back for emergency purpose, it's called regulation in the public interest. Why would you think it would be bad for the government to be able to broadcast to the public in times of emergency. It's kind of common sense, especially in light of the growing number of weather based disasters. Instead you applaud, it cost $5, people should shut up and die instead, that's GOD blessed profit, just ask the majority of US politicians.

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    5. Re:Turn it on, will not work by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 2

      Use the charging port. Apple is always saying how they can't comply with the EU's microUSB charger mandate because

      ... there is no such thing. Stop pretending.

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  2. Television? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I was in Korea a few years back I was intrigued to see everyone on the subway watching OTA broadcast TV on their phones. This wasn't "streaming" video coming in over their data plan - The phones and tablets had antennas that extended from them and they were watching broadcast TV.

    1. Re:Television? by FudRucker · · Score: 2

      in the USA they want everyone to buy subscriptions to everything, satellite radio, streaming music by paid subscription, netflix, everything is being geared to milk the consumer for money, i refuse to play their cash cow game fuck em they can FOAD for all i care

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    2. Re:Television? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is called 1seg. Started in Japan, it's low quality 12 FPS video but easier and more reliable to receive on the move. Many cars have it, I was really surprised to see people watching TV while driving.

      The name of because it uses one segment of the available digital TV spectrum. It trades quality for extra error correction and redundancy.

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    3. Re:Television? by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

      The South Korean version of this is called DMB and is distinct from but similar in concept to 1seg. The US might see this some day in the form of ATSC-M/H.

      All of them are similar in they use H.264 for video and HE-AAC for audio multiplexed in an MPEG transport stream.

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  3. Nothing to do with streaming services by Guspaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    iPhones were shipping with the FM support disabled long before Apple Music or Spotify existed.

    1. Re:Nothing to do with streaming services by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      The iTunes Store still existed, though.

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  4. on a side comment on all in one functions by WillRobinson · · Score: 2

    Why not just buy like a transistor radio with solar cell charging, their very cheep. Where's my Swiss knife pop out of my Iphone, that would be more useful.

  5. Again, Pai demonstrates his stupidity by GerryGilmore · · Score: 2

    As Apple pointed out, their phones truly just do not support OTA radio broadcasts. But Pai could not be bothered to uncover this little technical fact first....Now, if he were really serious about this "life-saving" stuff, he could use his R majority on the FCC to mandate that - after, say, 2020 - all smartphones sold in America must be able to receive and play OTA broadcasts but the chances of THAT happening are below zero.

    1. Re:Again, Pai demonstrates his stupidity by Bartles · · Score: 2

      Pai didn't specify iPhone 7's and 8's now, did he?

  6. tell them ALL to do it by FudRucker · · Score: 2

    Tell Samsung, Tell Pixel, Tell Motorola, tell ALL the smartphone manufactures to turn on the FM radio chip so i can at least get local broadcast FM radio music, news and weather

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    1. Re:tell them ALL to do it by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Tell Samsung, Tell Pixel, Tell Motorola, tell ALL the smartphone manufactures to turn on the FM radio chip so i can at least get local broadcast FM radio music, news and weather

      Many of those devices already to have their FM radios enabled, but lack software to drive them. I use the free NextRadio app on my Kyocera Hydro Vibe and it works great. It uses the headphone wire as an antenna, so they (or a speaker) must be plugged it, but you can also output through the built-in speaker.

      Here's the official list of supported devices. Note that my device wasn't listed when I first installed the app, but it worked anyway. I sent some feed back telling them it worked and my device is now listed.

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    2. Re:tell them ALL to do it by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      My Moto G1, G4 and G5 all have FM hardware and software by default.

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    3. Re:tell them ALL to do it by jwhyche · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have a samsung S7 and I can't believe that actually worked.

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    4. Re:tell them ALL to do it by freeze128 · · Score: 5, Informative

      I was curious about NextRadio so I installed it. My device (LG G2) wasn't on the supported list, but it detected my location, and showed me my local FM stations. They played great.... I was suspicious.

      So I turned off WiFi and Mobile data, and the stations stopped dead. This fucker was ***STREAMING*** audio to my phone over a data connection, not using the FM tuner. Also, for some reason, it needs access to your files and photos.

      Unsurprisingly, I uninstalled it.

  7. The Cluelessness of the FCC Chair is Amazing! by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In order to get FCC Approval, Apple has to submit not only samples of their "production-ready" Phones; but full documentation, including SCHEMATICS and SPECIFICATIONS...

    TO THE FUCKING FCC!!!

    But now, that same Clue-Free MORON has the temerity to attempt to make Apple look like "Bad Guys" that have simply REFUSED to "turn on" that which does not exist!

    And he Bloody-Well SHOULD have known that, BEFORE he even made his "Demand"!!!

    FFS! Our Tax Dollars at Work...

    1. Re:The Cluelessness of the FCC Chair is Amazing! by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      But now, that same Clue-Free MORON has the temerity to attempt to make Apple look like "Bad Guys" that have simply REFUSED to "turn on" that which does not exist!

      And we should just trust apple because they say it doesn't have one? Both AT&T and Samsung have told me that my S7 doesn't have a radio chip in it. An i trusted them and left it at that. Well turns out it does. I just tested it myself..

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    2. Re:The Cluelessness of the FCC Chair is Amazing! by PPH · · Score: 2

      REFUSED to "turn on" that which does not exist!

      Maybe. Maybe not.

      Does Apple have a different hardware model for the Indian market? Because FM radio in your phone is a pretty important over there. Don't have one and you won't be selling any phones in India.

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  8. Re:FM a threat to streaming? by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

    I could not agree more about what unclearchannel consolidation has done to homogenize our community media.

    If a community doesn't support its local radio station to the point that the station needs to sell out to a national chain in order to exist, then was it truly community radio to begin with? Is it better for the station to close down and have the equipment removed, or to be in place so that it can be used do disseminate emergency information when necessary? Why does it matter what it plays at other times?

    At least we do have NPR with real engineer, tech and talent that knows the phone numbers for local resources.

    Our "NPR" tech/engineer works in the big city 60 miles away and has the numbers for resources 60 miles away. That's not local. There are places where that 60 miles is more like 180 and a four or five hour drive.

    The fact that the handset vendors are selling $k phones without such a simple, basic lifesaving resources as an FM receiver + weather radio (~162 MHz) is criminal.

    For those to be "lifesaving", they need to be listened to. Most people don't know about NOAA radio, and even most of those that do don't listen on a regular basis. How many people have a properly configured and working weather radio where they are? I have one and I have yet to hear it alert on anything, including the alleged regular tests. It's basically useless.

  9. Re:Sorry, not possible by jwhyche · · Score: 2

    And yes, I'll go with transistor radio, because those can get AM radio, which is where I'd go for my news. FM is full of Clearchannel crapola so even in an emergency I probably won't think to turn on FM radio.

    Don't just top at AM if you are getting one for emergency. Get one that handles the shortwave bands too. The shortwave bands can pick up radio from all around the world so the can get signals that are come from outside of a disaster area. If the disaster is big enough it might take out all the AM stations in range of your radio.

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  10. Maybe just maybe... by Graymalkin · · Score: 2

    Pai could read up on WEAs. They work with existing cell phones with no additional hardware necessary. They use out of band signaling so a flooded network does not affect them and cell sites don't actually need MSC connectivity to send them out.

    Pai could also call out the CTIA et al, for dragging their feet and suing the government to not be required add backup power to cell sites. This was something the FCC mandated after Katrina but got thrown into legal limbo for years by the CTIA.

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  11. Re:Why not just use Pandora/Spotify? by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 2

    Just download the emergency broadcasts before the hurricane starts and listen to them later in the comfort of your soon to be destroyed home.

    All you smart people and you can't come up with this obvious solution! Come on guys!

  12. Re:Q: Why? by PPH · · Score: 2

    Most pocket-sized radios use the headphone cable as an antenna. So just plug your headphones into your iPhone ...... Oh.

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