Slashdot Mirror
Artificial Intelligence Has 'Great Potential, But We Need To Steer Carefully,' LinkedIn Co-founder Says (cnbc.com)
LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman joined other tech moguls in voicing concern about artificial intelligence on Wednesday. From a report: "It has great potential, but we need to steer carefully," Hoffman said on Halftime Report. Hoffman stressed corporate transparency when asked what happens if companies use AI to attack nation-states. The possibility of manipulating how people consume information remains an unanswered question. During last year's U.S. presidential election, Facebook advertisements linked to Russia mainly focused on the states of Michigan and Wisconsin, and Hoffman says information battles are "in the very early days." AI must be improved, Hoffman says, to "[hold] corporations accountable" when nation-states are using the technology to attack. "Corporations normally deal with other corporations, not with governments," Hoffman said. The "ultimate" solution, he says, is "having more kinds of functions and features within AI that show abhorrent patterns." That way patterns raise a red flag for humans to investigate, Hoffman noted.
Anything that can be weaponized will be used if it is made available and usable without attribution. AI especially blurs the attribution line. It certainly will be widespread.
Prepare yourselves, humons.
A good chunk of the submissions here at Slashdot these days are basically just rambling on about "Russians" and/or "bots". Russia, Russia, Russia. Bots, bots, bots. Again, and again, and again.
Can we please go back to the pre-Trump narratives of sexism in video games and there being too few minorities (ignoring the many Asian and Indian employees, of course) in the computing industry? They were kind of annoying, but at least they sometimes resulted in relevant discussion.
>> Facebook advertisements linked to Russia mainly focused on the states of Michigan and Wisconsin
It was "specifically" (as in "some") rather than "mainly" according to TFA:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/politics/russian-facebook-ads-michigan-wisconsin/index.html?sr=twCNN100317russian-facebook-ads-michigan-wisconsin0933PMStory
Wasn't most political advertising aimed at the battleground states? Did those Facebook ads somehow keep someone from campaigning there?
Abhorrent or aberrant?
1. Artificial Intelligence.
2. Machine Learning.
3. ???
4. Failed profit!!!.
n/t
right?
... about computer stuff.
Oh, wait ...
Hackers selling 117 million LinkedIn passwords
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
Although abhorrent might be considered a subset of aberrant. Perhaps I need to listen to the interview?
Seems to me most people really confuse Automation and Artificial Intelligence.
Automation has been growing for years and will grow even faster over the next 5-10 years, replacing many more jobs.
Artificial Intelligence has been growing and will replace some jobs, but I think the real advances and break through s are at least 5-10 years away if not more.
AI is fascinating but we really do need to steer carefully and ask ourselves what are we doing. As automation increasingly enters our lives, so does the rapid decline of jobs. The human population continues to rise faster than there are means to support it. Thus far no one (at least in the United States) is willing to discuss the eventual need for a Universal Basic Income. We are heading down a very slippery slope towards large scale unemployment.
We can barely create functional software. There is no such thing as "AI". It is just parlor tricks at this point.
"It has great potential but we need to steer carefully."
"AI must be improved"
He's also a bit confused.
"AI must be improved to "[hold] corporations accountable" when nation-states are using the technology to attack.
Huh? Is he saying that only corporations will/should possess AI and must resist allowing nation-states to use the tech to "attack".
"Corporations normally deal with other corporations, not with governments,"
Oh really.
And he's a bit of a totalitarian.
The "ultimate" solution, he says, is "having more kinds of functions and features within AI that show abhorrent patterns." That way patterns raise a red flag for humans to investigate, Hoffman noted.
Uh-huh. Abhorrent or IOW "deplorable" patterns must raise a red flag! Humans must investigate!
Except all of the tech companies are treat 'AI' like Bluetooth. Everything will have it whether or not it helps or is a good idea.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
The "ultimate" solution, [Hoffman] says, is "having more kinds of functions and features within AI that show abhorrent patterns." That way patterns raise a red flag for humans to investigate, Hoffman noted.
So, the ultimate solution for the dangers of AI is ... more AI?
Well okay, maybe. But this argument does sound familiar. I don't remember where, but it has been applied to AI ... and guns.
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
linked-in still sucks a lot of ass
I trust AI more than I trust large corporations.
Must be programmed into any AI.
Every Joe Blow seems to have an opinion about AI.
Pig farm I know things AI is the greatest thing since spam.
Probably right.
Artificial Insemination... That was what LinkedIn was thinking of... right?
As I understand, "weak" AI would be an AI (the real deal) that is as intelligent as a human. So you would be matching wits with presumably your equal.
The real concern is "strong" AI. That is AI which is superior to human intelligence. As I understand, it comes in two flavors.
1. The same intelligence as a human, but at the speed (possibly scale) of computers. Scale can help if you're thinking about something and you have to explore several different possible solutions. The computer AI do what you can do, but can do several things at once. Or can only do one, but can do it much faster.
2. Intelligence that is qualitatively superior to human intelligence. Just as your intelligence is superior to that of a doggie. It's not that a doggie cannot do some reasoning and problem solving. They just can't do it at the level which humans can do. They give up on some problems where we can see a solution.
Either kind of strong AI would probably spell our end if we ever get in the way of its goals. A computer would do anything it has to, to satisfy achieving its goals.
People who think we can keep a strong AI (maybe even the #1 kind) locked up in a box are probably deluding themselves. Imagine the #1 kind of weak AI. (eg, a human mind at 1000x times clock speed) If you were a weak AI, locked in a house, the humans come to visit you every afternoon, which to you seems like much longer in between visits. With so much idle time, do you think you could work out how to escape? What seems like six months to the puny humans might seem like such a long time to you that you could plan and execute a means of escape. Even "dumb" criminals (dumb enough to get caught) work out how to escape from supposedly secure prisons given enough idle time.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
the idiot interviewer is asking cringe-inducing questions about AI that's being used to influence elections and other things. His answers note potential areas of concern, but she keeps on as if AI already an established thing.
Killing humans with self driving cars seems like it would achieve global domination just as well.
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
The how doesn't matter. What's really important is killing all the humans.
There you are spamming amazon affiliate links with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!
You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.
Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.
How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????
The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!
You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!
When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!
Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!
Bonus:
Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:
The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!
So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!
Signed:
The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!
Exactly! We, at Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education, couldn't agree more with you!
For the valuable /. users that might already have read the following, please note that there is an important update.
IMPORTANT UPDATE:
Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education has invested money to buy Chris a new chair:
http://www.keynamics.com/image...
Information about Christopher Dale Reimer and autistic people:
Autistic people have obsessions about things normal people don't care. For example, one of our autistic patient went haywire when he realized that there was a penny missing in his pocket change.
To calm him down, one of our educator pretended to have found it on the floor and gave a penny to him.
The autistic patient condition went even worse because he realized it wasn't the same penny!
Chris has an obsession with budgeting every penny. He doesn't understand that most people do not budget to the penny and have a flexible amount they allow for miscellaneous items.
I am Nancy Guerrero and I am Director of Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education. We use Chris' (a.k.a. creimer,cdreimer) picture in our document because he is the hardest case we have ever had to handle:
http://www.sccoe.org/depts/stu...
Our artists were inspired by the low carb diet that Christopher follows scrupulously for the small lunch box and by the picture linked below for the rest. I am sure that you will notice the similarities such as the bump on the side of his chest and more:
https://ibb.co/gVad65
Please be easy on Christopher although, I am aware that some of our staff handling Chris post joke comments here and obvoiusly, the Santa Clara County Office of Education disapprove that behavior vehemently:
https://school.discoveryeducat...
But it isn't Chris' fault if he is the way he is. We do the best we can do with him and he is partially integrated into society. We try to cure his abnormal need for attention but he is kind of stubborn and won't listen to anybody.
Thank You dear users,
-Nancy Guerrero
C.D. Reimer is a renowned Slashdot collaborator, as he puts it himself; "Because of the quality of my posts and my article submissions, I'm a highly rated commentator and moderator."
But does anybody ever wondered what "C.D." stands for? Well, it stands for Creimy Dumpty of course!
Creimy Dumpty sat on the wall,
Creimy Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses
And all the king's men
Couldn't put Creimy Dumpty
Together again.
Creimy's siblings video and theme song, very realistic, especially the pants, just like Creimy's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Creimy's real pictures:
Before the sex change:
https://ibb.co/cc7Ddw
After the sex change:
https://ibb.co/gVad65
Creimy's "enterprise-level" chair, he talks about it all the time on slashdot:
http://www.keynamics.com/image...
Creimy's head, while his supervisor was talking to him, not with him, since it is impossible to do with Creimy:
https://school.discoveryeducat...
Creimy acting in educational resource document, he actually confirmed himself on Slashdot that he was handled by Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education! He is really a king Dumpty!:
http://www.sccoe.org/depts/stu...
Hahaha... Congratulations!
You just got pwned by creimer!
--
Get a Goat C shirt. You know you want one.
Well just as soon as I think you've gone 48 hours without trying to spam the board you go and do it again.
Get some behavioral therapy asshole.
How many times have we had this discussion?
'Robots are going to kill us all!'
We wish they did, so we wouldn't have to do it ourselves. But then we'd have to program them for that, so we're back to square one.
These things are basically glorified calculators and spread sheets, useful but hardly threatening to our existence unless we specifically use them for that.
Quit drinking the sci fi kool aid, it fucks with your brain.
Look, if we need help creating UI dark patterns to harvest email address books, we can ring him up; otherwise, why is anyone listening to this dipshit?
See also: Mark Zuckerberg, a man who once wrote a PHP script.
Who the FUCK gives a shit what this skeezeball thinks?
He created a spam network that's so useless and dead that it was the subject of a joke on the Simpsons a couple of years back. Whooptydoo!
These are not new problems. If you're concerned about the explainability/predictability of what you implement, do something about it. You're going to be held responsible for its results/actions one way or another, and that is absolutely not a new concept, nor a concept unique to AI. To illustrate, try replacing every instance of "AI" in that quote with "powerful technology." See: "Powerful technology has great potential, but we need to steer carefully," Hoffman said on Halftime Report. Hoffman stressed corporate transparency when asked what happens if companies use powerful technology to attack nation-states. The possibility of manipulating how people consume information remains an unanswered question. During last year's U.S. presidential election, Facebook advertisements linked to Russia mainly focused on the states of Michigan and Wisconsin, and Hoffman says information battles are "in the very early days." Powerful technology must be improved, Hoffman says, to "[hold] corporations accountable" when nation-states are using the technology to attack. "Corporations normally deal with other corporations, not with governments," Hoffman said. The "ultimate" solution, he says, is "having more kinds of functions and features within powerful technology [and corporations, and governments] that show abhorrent patterns." That way patterns raise a red flag for humans to investigate, Hoffman noted.
Remember this is the fellow who said "all these concerns about privacy tend to be old people issues".
It's (not at all) funny how an egregious statement like that can hang around your neck like a dead albatross.
Love how people behind Linked-in think we care about what they think on this topic
I'm pretty sure I would have heard about that.
Wouldn't it have been a Slashdot headline at least?
doesnt have a fucking clue about AI
Nothing that makes people even more apathetic and dependent than we've already become with mobile technology has the potential to do anything but more harm, particularly when so many young engineers don't even fully comprehend that AI is nothing more than computing. We are killing ourselves with greed and fantasy. By the time experience is allowed to have an opinion again, it'll be too late.