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Virtual Zuck Fails To Connect (bbc.com)
Rory Cellan-Jones, writing for BBC: It must have seemed like a good idea. As a taster for a big announcement about Oculus VR on Wednesday, send Mark Zuckerberg on a little virtual reality trip, including a stop in Puerto Rico. But the reviews are in -- and they are not good. The sight of Mr Zuckerberg using VR to survey the devastation of an island still struggling to recover from Hurricane Maria may have been meant to convey Facebook's empathy with the victims. The fact that he was there in the form of a cartoon seemed to many the perfect visual metaphor for the gulf in understanding between Silicon Valley and the real world. Sure, he was talking about all the activities which his company had initiated to help the island, from helping people tell their families they were ok using Safety Check to sending Facebook employees to help restore connectivity. But cartoon Zuck showing us a 360 degree view of a flooded street before zipping back to a virtual California just seemed a little, well, crass. Is Facebook really concerned about the plight of Puerto Rico, or is it merely a handy backdrop to promote Oculus, whose sales have so far proved disappointing?
Did virtual Zuck get a chance to lob some?
What did the announcement taste like?
The real one saying they care about form over function is the author of the article. I hear no complaints about what Facebook is actually doing in Puerto Rico. In fact the article lists several things that sound quite helpful, even though Facebook is not a relief agency and has no charter to help at all. Yet this article complains about how Zuckerberg was rendered in a VR setting.
I am sure the article author has done much more to help Puerto Rico than Zuckerberg has.
The real cool part was lost because the message delivery felt like a PR stunt using devastation in PR.
What this really is good for:
Using Oculus like this is a way that professional relief planners and project managers can determine optimum load-out of emergency supplies before leaving the warehouse location, when it's much easier to add/remove/change the loadout on short notice.
There's nothing quite like *seeing* the environment. back-pack street-view cameras on dirt bikes comes to mind...
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Motive aside, I like this.
It is important that Congress connect to their constituents, see what they endure each day, talk with them, learn their problems, their needs. It's also important that Congress see the country as a whole, see the disasters which strike in remote locations, and the ones which make locations in the very heart of our nation remote by way of the sheer volume of destruction visited upon them.
We need a reasoned, rational approach to all things; yet men only move at an imperative driven by emotion. We'd best learn to restrain those emotions, because it is perhaps necessary that we face their assault so as to truly understand what need presents itself to our care. Here we have a low-cost, effective method to force direct exposure to those conditions upon ourselves, to step into a world thousands of miles away and see the hurt and the suffering around us, and to truly grasp the urgent need with which we are faced.
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Is Facebook really concerned about the plight of Puerto Rico
I think we all have come to realize that the SJWs out there are really more concerned with signaling virtue more than actually solving problems.
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He's become one of these people who live in a bubble surrounded by sycophants who blow smoke up his ass all day about how great and meaningful he and Facebook is to the world, despite the fact that if Facebook actually did disappear overnight the only real effect on the world is probably greater productivity and some unemployed Facebook workers who will be needing new jobs. And this guy is coyly hinting he might want to run for President. I personally believe he'd be just as bad as Trump for mainly similar reasons - both think they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. Though where Trump harms by malice, Zuck would harm by out of touch ignorance.
a guy who had the enormous luck to turn a side project from his dorm room into a multibillion dollar business before being old enough to rent a car without paying extra has a little trouble "connecting" to the average person.
Some people have success and humility. Other people have success.
I'm still against the very idea of Trump being president, on the basis of, well him being completely unqualified to actually perform the actual duties. Or any actual duties at anything. He's basically a 'fake it until you can fake it" guy, with nothing underneath. I feel the exact same way about Reagan actually.
For the same reason, I'm going to be against Zuckerburg being anywhere near the presidency. It's cool that he can craft an advertising/communication empire from his college facebook project - but actually governing should mean a whole lot more than that.
I'm not talking about the abstract feelings here - being able to construct a society that cares for the least among us, manages real tragedy, deals responsibly with international incidents, and maintains a sense of civic humility - those things matter. Republican, democrat, whatever - the shared governance of the people is an important responsibility, and maximizing company profits does not qualify you alone for those demands. Indeed - those same skills would lead more to a twisted mercantilism if used to govern, and that doesn't work for long without deep tragedy and large-scale dysfunction.
Here's hoping he's running a 'Brewster's Millions' campaign here.
let me know when there's an oculus 'virtual boxing match' starring zuck. i imagine the lines would be pretty long to buy one of those goofy headsets if it meant you got to pummel the Hitler of privacy concerns.
Zuck and Oculus can suck my big hairy balls.
- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then ???, then profit.
I think it is fair to say that most technical leaders of our time don't really understand anything about people in general. Oh they know how to make a buck off of them, but beyond that they are very out of touch.
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Here's a link to the video: https://www.facebook.com/zuck/videos/vb.4/10104094186863501/
Also, none of the articles I looked at on this topic included a link to the video. What is it with "news" no longer linking to their sources? C'mon people!
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Zuck and Oculus can suck my big hairy balls.
Just took off my Oculus I can confirm that your balls are neither big nor hairy.
"Cartoon" and "Death Toll" should not be applicable to the same media presentation.
I actually think the problem here wasn't actual insensitivity, but rather failure to anticipate a shortcoming of the avatar technology employed. Zuck's cartoon representation doesn't reproduce any emotional expression, just the kind of upbeat, non-Duchenne smile you get from a hotel receptionist greeting you as the 100th guest that morning. The jolly Zuck cartoon figure surveying scenes of horrific devastation gives the inescapable impression of sociopathy.
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This guy has proven himself a fucking moron over and over and over again.
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Was the video a bit in poor taste? sure. Should they have had a more serious demeanor when showing people's loss? probably. Especially the Rachel character.. Zuck had a much better demeanor IMHO she sounded more like she was marketing making sure they kept talking about the VR.
All that being said: The efforts they highlighted are real efforts that are working towards real results in helping the people of Puerto Rico. I'll give them a lot of leeway when it comes to squeezing a bit of PR out of PR when the the efforts are more than just fluff. I only hope some of that generosity is going to the USVI and other island nations as well as they are in as bad or worse shape and now out of the spotlight since Puerto Rico is a more visible aide target.
Put 'em back on, zuck
- First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then ???, then profit.
> What is it with "news" no longer linking to their sources?
Some of them have yet to start. My solution has been to stop considering them to be news.
Why would anyone care? You wouldn't expect a company to be concerned about a plight, other than how it might affect their sales or equity. Companies aren't for that.
On the bright side, thanks to this story, I just learned that Oculus has a product for sale. I had heard of them a few years ago but had no idea they were already open for business. Did they ever open it up to everyone, or is it just another video game console / iPhone type thing?
If it's the latter, we've had those for decades and they're all terribly boring, so I think I figured out why the product isn't selling.
...that zero zucks were given.
I'll show myself out.
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Is Facebook really concerned about the plight of Puerto Rico, or is it merely a handy backdrop to promote Oculus, whose sales have so far proved disappointing?
Even if you're willing to hold your nose against the Facebook stink, the price is something radically different than anyone who followed the Rift from the beginning expected. We expected a shoestring budget device with established electronics business margins of the size they're accustomed to in Taiwan, not "recover all US development costs in 5 sales" prices. After all, when you get right down to it, it's just another display. Pricing similar to another monitor is reasonable. Pricing similar to a tricked out home theater, including the furniture, seems a bit much. Especially given the state of the software—there ain't much, and what there is doesn't do much.
In short, it costs too damn much for what you get.
Was it a 'good' idea. Facebook is either the largest group of sycophants ever to walk the earth, or Zuckerberg really is THAT deluded. If he didn't have his ill-gotten wealth, he would be the crazy guy on that Reddit thread (you know the one).
Social justice warriors change the world for the better by fighting oppression and inequality.
I think this is how social justice warriors see themselves.
The rest of us mostly see them as tilting at windmills for their own gratification and/or local social standing.
It's surprisingly easy to see them that way from the outside. But the person you hear about tends to be the one with the loudest voice, not the typical one, much less the one you should take as representative of what the movement aspires to. There are lots of people who dedicate their lives to making the world better because they like helping people. While there are some noisemakers who do it for social standing (among SJWs just like in pretty much every other population), there are also lots of great people just working hard to help people in pain.
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I grew up around smarmy little craps like him. They never do wrong. It is always somebody else's fault.
Would LOVE to send this joker on a trip. A hunting trip with Dick Cheney. Unless we can arrange a one-way trip to the sun?