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Learn To Code, It's More Important Than English as a Second Language, Says Apple CEO (cnbc.com)
Apple CEO Tim Cook says it is more important to learn how to code than it is to learn English as a second language. From a report: The tech executive made the remarks to French outlet Konbini while in the country for a meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron, who has called for tech companies to pay higher taxes in Europe. "If I were a French student and I were 10 years old, I think it would be more important for me to learn coding than English. I'm not telling people not to learn English in some form -- but I think you understand what I am saying is that this is a language that you can [use to] express yourself to 7 billion people in the world," Cook tells Konbini. "I think that coding should be required in every public school in the world. [...] It's the language that everyone needs, and not just for the computer scientists. It's for all of us."
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That will improve communication in international development teams -- not having a common language to speak to each other in. I'm sure that will have no impact on the final product.
The idea that everybody needs to learn to code is ridiculous. It's like saying that everybody needs to learn how to build a house, or how to build a car, etc.
Just like learning basic carpentry or basic auto repair is a useful life skill, so are basic computer skills. But if programming isn't your thing, then learning it isn't going to do you a lot of good in your life.
Code using what programming language ?
Swift ?
Whose keywords are english words ? And most of the documentation is in english ?
The french should sue Apple for not releasing the programming language "Rapide" - where all the keywords are in french. And it understands the following:
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Not everyone needs to know how to code. Not everyone has the talent for it. Adding more and more subpar coders is only going to make stuff worse, not better.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
Oh, I mistook it for Perl ;-)
Tech CEO's just want cheap labor for their sector. They don't care about more general downsides of poor English to a other areas of a person's life. For example, when a coder gets older and is forced out of coding due to agism or RSI, as often happens, lack of English could greatly limit Plan B. It can also make everyday life difficult outside of work.
On a related note, the NRA says everyone should own and learn about guns. Surprise!
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This seems like Cook is looking to turn the States into a land of cheap programming labor, like those lands that corporate America enjoy today.
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Because, you know, we don't need any other services in this world. We will code the trash pick up.
Anyone know? Or was he simply reading off some prepared script or a teleprompter?
Seriously, it does not. The level most people can learn to code on (with significant effort) is maybe comparable to being able to order a beer or to say "thank you" in a foreign language. Coding is an experts-only game and it will remain that. You would not seriously advise people to "learn to do mathematical proofs", would you? Coding on any level where it is worthwhile doing is on that level and often even harder, since you need to understand the machine you are coding for.
Of course, Cook will likely know that very well and just wants to assure a steady supply of cheap, low-quality coders. The stupidity here is with those that believe such statements.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
I was looking at university catalogs in the mid-1990's. Many were willing to waive the foreign language requirement if a programming language course was taken. Pascal and C were popular programming languages. I've never heard anyone speak Pascal or C. That gibberish sounded like Greek anyway.
>"Apple CEO Tim Cook says it is more important to learn how to code than it is to learn English as a second language."
And that just shows how ignorant he really is. Knowing English is far, far, more important than learning coding. It is useful in just about every single field out there and give you the ability to communicate to nearly anyone on Earth, certainly any place that has a strong economy and/or strong educational system. But most importantly, communication language is something best learned when very young. The brain designed to be wide open and ready for communication language ability. Computer coding is something the brain is NOT really ready for when very young- that comes later with logic, reasoning, math, etc. And keep in mind that while all humans can easily learn English [when young], that is NOT true for coding- there is a large portion, perhaps a majority, of people who will never really learn or master coding at ANY age.
Knowing both (English and Coding) is great. But if you have to choose one, make it English and teach it young. If you can do both, teach coding later, after English.
Try avoiding buried power lines, phone and cable lines, and pipes with a backhoe. Try getting a backhoe through a gate barely wide enough to walk through.
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Huh?
Rust is the 43rd most popular programming language in the world in 2017. I've been working with international teams for over a decade now and, although personal experience doesn't mean anything at all in these sorts of things, I have never personally seen Rust used for professional programming.
Although it pains me to say it, since I hate the language, I think that if you have to pick one that is closest to being "universal", it would be Java.
Well, you need to learn *those* english words. Probably a few subsets as well. That's really about it.
There's a vast difference between understanding the words in programming syntax -- which more often than not are not contextual and have a 1-to-1 transliteration with whatever language you know -- than it is to understand why "10k spoons when all you need is a knife" is not ironic.
Seriously ... I've never heard a reference to any software he developed before?
Bill Gates, by contrast, actually DID write some code, including part of the BASIC operating system that was used in some of the old Radio Shack TRS-80 computers.
It seems to me like if you haven't learned to code yourself, it's pretty hypocritical to declare that all students need to learn it now.
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Comparing coding to language is an exercise in shortsightedness.
A backhoe, an overpaid operator, contracted maintenance, financing for said backhoe, fancy accountant at the home office to deal with a depreciating asset, fleet supervisor to manage company cars for the job site foreman. Insurance for the machine, a CDC driver to deliver the big equipment, ooh, another depreciating capital expense - the truck, more insurance for the truck, Drug testing for operators, Yep, just a backhoe is all anyone needs.
How is learning to code going to help a ditch digger?
Maybe 'Digger' has his or her sights set on some other occupation. Maybe s/he's part of the hacker community, and digging ditches is just how the bills currently get paid. Maybe it's just about broadening horizons and stretching the mind.
Pigeonholing people based on the jobs they hold is shortsighted and lacking in imagination.
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I still see people at construction sites, in ditches, with shovels, in the USA, quite often. And it actually pays quite well compared to other menial labor positions.
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You just go out and "hire a backhoe"?
Do you mean rent one? Because if so, bullshit. You've got to transport it, you've got to deal with 611, you've got permits if you're in a residential area, you've got a whole lot of fucking shit.
If you mean "hire someone to use a backhoe to dig for me", you ARE hiring a team of people. There's the person in the office you spoke with, the manager, the person who buys the equipment, the guy who deals with the permits, the guy who handles the insurance, the guys who run the backhoes, the guys who drive the trucks, etc. etc. You're just ignorant and you don't think beyond what's right in front of your face.
You can absolutely rent backhoes, small excavators, etc. I've personally rented an excavator to help a friend with a basement repair.
Dealing with 611, which I'm presuming is your local utility locator hotline, is something you have to do even if you are digging a posthole by hand. Additionally, permitting you have to deal with on many projects regardless what equipment you are using.
Look up your local rental shop, you'll find they rent all the stuff. They'll have skidsteers (bobcats), excavators, tillers, trenchers, etc. If you don't have a trailer to haul it on, they'll rent that too. Your car can't tow 4000 lbs? They'll rent you a truck to tow it too.
when XCode runs on an iPad.
Otherwise, your $500 iPad that my niece's parents were forced to buy for her schooling is not fit for purpose.
Of course not because all the best programmers avoid commenting their code.
Well, at any rate, many people who think of themselves as the best programmers avoid commenting their code.
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Do you mean rent one?
Pretty sure he means hire one. You can hire diggers from any good plant hire centre.
Because if so, bullshit. You've got to transport it,
I just googled "plant hire with delivery". It seems that there are many plant hire companies who offer both delivery AND collection services. If transport is a problem for you, I'd recommend using one of those.
you've got permits if you're in a residential area, you've got a whole lot of fucking shit.
Like planning permission? Sure you need that to start digging up shit generally, but that's not really got much to do with plant hire. You need those even if you're digging by hand. And the plant hire company won't generally help you with it.
Anyway, google disagrees with you, which means in this case, you're spouting crap. It's really quite easy to hire heavy plant.
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