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Recordings of the Sounds Heard In the Cuban US Embassy Attacks Released (apnews.com)
New submitter chrissfoot shares a report from The Associated Press: The Associated Press has obtained a recording of what some U.S. Embassy workers heard in Havana in a series of unnerving incidents later deemed to be deliberate attacks. The recording, released Thursday by the AP, is the first disseminated publicly of the many taken in Cuba of mysterious sounds that led investigators initially to suspect a sonic weapon. The recordings themselves are not believed to be dangerous to those who listen. Sound experts and physicians say they know of no sound that can cause physical damage when played for short durations at normal levels through standard equipment like a cellphone or computer. What device produced the original sound remains unknown. Americans affected in Havana reported the sounds hit them at extreme volumes. You can listen to the "Dangerous Sound" here via YouTube.
>The recordings themselves are not believed to be dangerous
So we can rule out Kanye West...?
Not that I have any idea what it was, but I'd be more inclined to suspect some kind of one-off natural phenomenon more than I'd suspect a weapon, given there is not an iota of evidence to suggest that malicious intent must have been behind the harm it caused.
But hey.... assuming intelligent intent behind something that we don't yet fully understand is historically a very human thing to do.... why should we be any different now than our caveman ancestors?
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
Sound experts and physicians say they know of no sound that can cause physical damage when played for short durations at normal levels through standard equipment like a cellphone or computer.
Obviously these people have never heard Trump speak. I actually envy them
They basically admit it's a simulation. There's no way the AP would be able to "obtain" nor disseminate it if it were really evidence in this ongoing spook dig.
Granted that's an annoying sound but I doubt it's very similar to what the people affected experienced.
The youtube sounds to see if they're legit?
I've got the order for 20 or so outdoor speakers pointed at my neighbors house waiting on amazon...
It's time to round up the nerds.
Everybody else seems to be content watching the weekly Sports Broadcasts on Saturday. Those nerds are messing around with wires and poking in parts of the computer they're not supposed to be in.
The score (from http://www.politifact.com/trut...) as of 2015...counts deaths of Americans in America:
24: number of Americans killed by terrorism in the last decade
208,024: number of Americans killed by guns in the last decade
Both low frequency sound and high frequency sound can cause negative health effects... and any recordings of audible sounds were likely caused by some resonance at an audible frequency. Any audiophiles out there have an idea what frequency this could have been based on the resonant sound produced?
Seems this is quite an insidious way to mess with people, just set up some equipment and point it at someone's home or building and they are going to have a bunch of unfortunate health issues that will be disruptive to their lives and work.
I'm guessing we have the CIA or old KGB to thank for coming up with the techniques that have now gone mainstream apparently.
...to send the Marines into Cuba.
I'm not saying the answer is yes, but if the terrorist attacks keep happening, maybe it's time to ask the question.
Maybe it would be easier to round up the potential victims. They're generally law abiding, so they'll probably willing migrate to the daily search camp^H^H^H^H safety zone.
On some ocasion I spent a night in a hotel in a small town and all the night long there was a cicada or another critter loudly buzzing a nasty sound like this. In the following days I realized that I had developed tinitus, that I carry since then. I don't know if it was a coincidence. Probably not.
Obviously we need to loosen the definition of terrorism.
This is egg on their face. It means that they cannot guarantee diplomatic safety in their own capitol, and if it's their own people doing it behind their back it means they cannot control their own intelligence services. Those are the sort of things that make a dictator get cold sweats at 2AM. It's a major crack in the facade of their power.
Let's say that it turns out to be "The Russians" and we catch them in the act. The obvious solution for the Cubans is to let us take the foreign operatives back to the US. It would even be justifiable for the Cubans to arrest the diplomatic mission of the foreign power and turn them over to US. Diplomatic immunity my ass. Doing this to a foreign embassy is an act of war because it is extremely serious non-lethal violence against a diplomatic mission. All bets are off at that point.
Obviously we need to loosen the definition of terrorism.
Pretty sure it's already looser than a 60-year-old whore.
I suppose a natural source could produce a noise like this. The problem is that something that is high-frequency AND has enough amplitude to do damage would be extremely directional. You would probably still hear something off-axis or reflected, but at a much lower amplitude. An omni-directional signal powerful enough to do damage to a human at a distance would also be shattering windows.
So you would have to assume that it's a natural phenomena that just happens to be emitting directly at embassy staff. The odds of this being natural start dropping off rather quickly.
Technically, a significant number of Muslims are old white men.
Ezekiel 23:20
I recall 58 being killed in an attack claimed by ISIS just days ago.
I played all 5 seconds of the YouTube link at very low volume and my dog jumped up from where he was lying down and began looking around the room with a "what the fuck was that" attitude.
It shouldn't have been reopened in the first place. Cuba continues to violate basic human rights on a massive scale. Political prisoners are still very common.
We shouldn't be giving them credibility. This was a big mistake by the previous administration.
And 80% of those gun related deaths are due to gang violence, obviously banning all gangs would solve that problem ;)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf
And most of those gang deaths happen in a few cities, Washington DC, Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Oakland, banning those cities solves the problem too ;)
The actual sound is very creepy, but its slightly under volume. You may need to adjust your speaker volume. At 3min the tones begin to oscillate a little causing a slightly dizziness. Be careful. https://youtu.be/cyMHZVT91Dw?t=3m5s
Actually, 2/3s of those gun deaths are suicides, and about half of the remainder are gang related. A significant portion of the other half are police shootings, which leaves very few "innocent" gun related deaths.
Most of those were suicides. Not very apples-to-apples.
There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to – The Outer Limits.
Would a sonic weapon be protected under the 2nd or 1st amendment?
The number of Americans killed by guns in that "factoid" also includes suicide. Never mind that the mass shootings that are listed are primarily in poor black neighborhoods or anything. Obviously we need drug control too, so many people die from the wrong medication dosages and drug induced suicide every day that the opoid crisis is certainly to blame. 400,000 people die every year in the US from it. The opoid crisis is obviously the cause of all those deaths.
Speaking of which, we're seeing exactly that same type of problem with gun violence in black neighborhoods here in Canada. But we don't see the same level of problem in say poor chinese, indian, or vietmanese neighborhoods. We don't even see this problem in native communities, and despite the money handed over via treaties(and it's a lot -- which many never see due to their own corruption). It's almost...almost like there's more going on here.
Om, nomnomnom...
Someone next door to the American embassy was playing the "Havana Moon" album too loudly.
A significant portion of the other half are police shootings, which leaves very few "innocent" gun related deaths.
... If you believe that the police only shoot guilty people. I'm not at all convinced of that, or even that most cases of a police officer drawing and using a firearm are justified given the circumstances. IIRC, police officers don't even make the top 10 of most dangerous professions in the USA, so their trigger happy attitude isn't really justified. Unless of course their job is relatively safe because they tend to shoot first.
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
Yep. For starters, we need to make it apply to white people too. Then that number would jump dramatically. Still be dwarfed by other gun deaths, but as I recall most of those are suicides, followed by accidents, followed by intentional murders over personal causes, none of which should qualify,
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I think the GGP's numbers are way off in terms of shooting deaths; GP's link indicates 11,000-11,100 firearm related homicides per year, 19,300-19,800 firearm related suicides per year. (Interestingly, or not, roughly 5,000 "other" homicides per year.) Police shootings account for less than 500 deaths per year based on the best available information-- CDC data shows 258 in 2011 and 412 in 2010; Washington Post tracks 400 per year in the last few years.
Another interesting tidbit-- if you look at total death rate by state, the highest rates are by far the rural states.
Nah but we should round up the musicians. Hurting people with sound seems to be their MO.
But now that you've listened to it, umm, what?
Acoustic mind virus.
The state department keeps calling this a "weapon", which doesn't make any sense. Listening devices and spying have a LONG history in embassies. The Russians were great at this in Moscow against the US, and the entire US embasy in Moscow had to be torn down and rebuilt because the Russians had infiltrated it. My guess is this thing was either transmitting information in some way and just completely miss-configured.
The sound itself sounds modulated in some way. It's not a regular repeating pattern, or random noise. It varies in time. That's odd in itself, and suggests it's transmitting information.
If they're still dead from suicide, then it's rather irrelevant if it's suicide. Unless suicides become immune to death or resurrect on a regular basis.
Guess what the weapon is being used on me now
Shitty weapon then... your are still alive... and shitposting.
Another interesting tidbit, related to your last tidbit: if you look at gun ownership by state, the highest rates by far are also rural states.
How are they recording a sound with "extreme volume" without clipping or anything? This is all very suspicious.
When someone exhorts others to violence by stoking the fires of fear and anger, NOT silencing them will only allow the riot to continue. It's why you arrested several Imams in the USA and why you block things like ISIS and other muslim fundamentalist propaganda sites.
I would rather we round up internet trolls like yourself.
The "neighborhood factor," if there is really such a thing, doesn't really matter because gun control works in all neighborhoods: https://www.vox.com/policy-and...
I'm skeeeeeered of Muslims!! I'm skeeeeeered of Mexicans!!
More than 200,000 Americans KILLED THEMSELVES LAST YEAR WITH A GUN.
Your stats are a bloody lie.
Still not nearly enough, perhaps we could get Trump to offer discount funerals for those willing to suicide themselves, or some other such incentive.
youre nuts. this is real. yours is not.
how do you know youre nuts ? because energy is dissipated through atmosphere, laser or not.
The US and I believe even Russia experimented with sonic weapons for quite a while during the Cold War, nothing really came of it. All of the known systems are large, obvious & pretty ineffective. Sure you can kill/badly injure someone with sound, with a device the size of a Buick, at ranges of no more than 100' & sustained exposure. Or you could use a device the size of a large beer can launched from a mile away with a simple metal tube (mortar using either standard or chemical warheads). Which of the following three scenarios sounds more likely, a small and poor island nation developed a weapon two superpowers couldn't, some people (either government or independent) went out of their way to haul around a massive sonic device to attack an embassy, or some people are vastly overstating a minor incident for political gain.
Sorry, but I couldn't hear a thing despite turning my speakers up.
Deaths from suicide are usually included in that figure because people who attempt suicide using guns are much more often successful than those who use other means (like sleeping pills). So easy access to guns results in more deaths from suicide.
See, we all think those commies are soo much smarter than we are, they have devised a sonic "weapon" that even our best experts can't explain.
Here, let me try.
This is the sound of jury-rigging. If you've got not parts, and no money, and no normal source for repairs, you just put stuff together as best you can. This particular noise is the sound of a fan scraping a trash-can lid that washed up on shore 20 years ago. /sarc
"We receive as friendly that which agrees with, we resist with dislike that which opposes us" - Faraday
https://www.scamstuff.com/products/sonic-nausea
From Dumb and Dumber? The most annoying sound ever?
So 208 thousand out of 26.2 million deaths in America from all causes. High five, that's actually pretty good.
Speaking of which, we're seeing exactly that same type of problem with gun violence in black neighborhoods here in Canada. But we don't see the same level of problem in say poor chinese, indian, or vietmanese neighborhoods.
Given that Canada doesn't track racial statistics as they relate to crime very well (or at all in many cases), I'm going to have to see a citation for that.
Sooo... how do you explain the crazy high rate of suicides in Japan who have just about no guns? They don't seem to have any problem with success.
During the day it records everything it hears. At night it retransmits everything but at an ultrasonic pitch. Either the bug has been damaged (tropical moisture) or two similar devices are interfering with each other.
Deaths from suicide are usually included in that figure because people who attempt suicide using guns are much more often successful than those who use other means (like sleeping pills). So easy access to guns results in more deaths from suicide.
It's a shit way to make it look like guns are an actual cause of death. Suicide is suicide, it doesn't matter how it happens. It would be like blaming gravity for people who jump off a bridge/building. But look at the stats for how that breaks down under sex. It's mainly men who will use guns, or really any method to commit suicide via any violent/excessive method because they want a method that's successful. It's also one of the reasons why male suicide makes 70-80% of all figures, they're choosing a method that's final. Women on the other hand are most likely to use things like sleeping pills because there is a far higher purchase put on 'how they look' even after they're dead, that reduces the chance of a successful suicide.
A person determined to commit suicide though it really doesn't matter, they'll use anything at hand.
Om, nomnomnom...
Given that Canada doesn't track racial statistics as they relate to crime very well (or at all in many cases), I'm going to have to see a citation for that.
Canada does, it's just suppressed by organizations because of political correctness. That's why we have things like the Gladue report, if you want the reports for Toronto you have to call them up and ask for the non-annualized statistics. Or you can simply pay attention to the media, which paint a picture of what's happening too.
Om, nomnomnom...
Top 10 leading causes of death per group age:
https://www.cdc.gov/injury/images/lc-charts/leading_causes_of_injury_deaths_unintentional_injury_2015_1050w760h.gif
Guns are always behind cars. Let's ban cars!
Except when it doesn't right? Keep in mind that you can "fix" crime statistics into different categories if you change the race of the offender. Something that's very popular in Chicago and Philly right now.
Om, nomnomnom...
Not to rain on your narrative, but the vast majority of deaths from guns are suicides (60.5%), not mass murders or single homicides. During the ten years from 2003 to 2012, the most recent year for which data are available, 313,045 persons died from firearm-related injuries in the United States. In 2012, 64% of gun deaths were suicides. Over the past 30 years, suicide has exceeded homicide even when firearm homicide rates were at their highest, and it was also the case for most of the twentieth century.
http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev-publhealth-031914-122535
This is not to take away from the fact that in the U.S. deaths and injury from firearms far outnumber those of other developed nations, or that guns are used in nearly 70% of all homicides in the U.S., but statistics need context to be accurately understood.
No, apply it to guns. If guns are terrorists....
Don't listen to it! Seven days later you will die!
"Gun control works in all neighborhoods"... LOL.
Gun control doesn't work in "bad" neighborhoods. That's the problem. Thugs, who typically infest "bad" neighborhoods, buy stolen guns on the black market specifically to use in the commission of crimes. There's absolutely no reason to buy black market guns other than to commit crime.
In "good" neighborhoods, the gun owners typically purchase their guns from a reputable dealer and get whatever needed licensing, registration, and background checks done as part of the purchase process.
Obviously, this breaks down as "bad" = poor, "good" = not poor (but not always rich), when considering how those adjectives apply to various neighborhoods. Guess which neighborhoods have hideously-high gun crime rates. Hint: it's not the "good" ones. It's never the "good" ones. The "good" neighborhoods are always shocked by a gun crime, while the "bad" neighborhoods only get on the news when there's a mass-slaughter, and they always interview some long-time resident that says, basically, "gunshots are an everyday occurrence around here, but never like this".
The reason "black lives matter" has become a catchphrase of late is because so many crimes happen to black people in these poor neighborhoods that everyone collectively stopped paying attention to it and began to simply expect it to happen. Like "the sky is blue" or "bears shit in the woods", so is "black people shoot the ever-loving fuck out of each other in the ghetto". Eventually, even the police stopped paying attention and simply didn't respond anymore to incidents in those areas where this happens a lot, because, hey, they're government employees, they don't get paid enough to go into harm's way to sort this shit out if it's just going to happen again and again. BLM isn't about people thinking black people are worthless. It's about people being lazy and not coming to the aid of other people in violent neighborhoods. Skin color is secondary, and is really not even the point. BLM could just as easily be called "Poor Lives Matter" or "Violence-marred Lives Matter" or "People Are Fucking Sick Of Being Stuck In A Hellhole, Both Physically And Economically, With No Way Out" or, simply, "We're Despondent And Desperate, PLEASE FUCKING HELP US, ASSHOLES".
As you can see, "gun control" is just another non-fix for a deeply broken system that allows politicians to ignore the real places where they've failed to govern effectively.
There could never be any plausible malicious intent by people in Cuba against U.S. Embassy personnel. There's just no precedent and no motive.
The Cuban people were NOT indoctrinated for years to view U.S. Government entities as their enemy. There is NO possibility that rogue elements within Cuban society might be doing this 'For Fidel' out of ideological zeal.
Nope. None of that should even be considered.
I'm pretty sure they US public has been more thoroughly indoctrinated to view Cuba as the spawn of Satan by the US media than the Cuban government could ever hope to indoctrinate the Cuban people to view the US as a mere 'enemy'. I attribute this largely to the fact that the average Cuban is better educated and generally better informed than the average American.
I really just wish that Americans would figure out how to associate government actions with the government, and not condemn the country or people in it for the actions of their government. Your statement that the American public views Cuba as evil is surprising to me, because I don't think that at all. That may happen for some countries, like North Korea where things are a bit more extreme. But Cuba? I don't see it.
And I sure as hell hope that people in the rest of the world don't judge all Americans based on what our government does and says.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
So that's what, 56 a year. I think there are about 50 per year killed by lightning too.
Were you trying to make a point, or just throwing out random numbers?
350,408: number of Americans killed by Automobiles in the last decade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year
Are you suggesting that removing guns in the US would lower suicide rates?
I've known more than a few intelligent Cuban-Americans (except for Otto Reich, whom I don't know), so allow those still back on the island a little leeway please. If they used concentrated bursts of directed microwave transmissions (something the old Soviets were researching back in the 1960s) along with those sounds, people might tend to believe the sounds were the cause and not look for any microwave sources.
The only plausible (sort of) physical theory so far was that it were micro-waves. That is, something that can penetrate the building and produce sensations of sound in people it is aimed at, but stay inaudible to the rest of the World.
Now that it IS sound (otherwise how could it be recorded?) the whole thing just doesn't make sense when you consider the buidling and its location. Look it up on Google maps - where would you put the emitter capable of penetrating the buidling with sound while being discreet? Wherever you try, it would be very loud on the outside which as we're told is not the case.
Now the real question:
How many of those werent either A) suicides or B) blacks and mexicans offing each other in the streets?
And dont bring up poverty. The really poor are the hillbillies in WV and EKY and they arent duking it out like savages.
They sorted this problem out in East Menlo Park by asking the local research groups (NASA?) if they could do anything. They came up with a "gunshot detector" which triangulated or quadratulated the location of the shot and the type of weapon. Everything from someone clapping their hands, a car backfiring or a real gunshot could be identified.
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The south side of chicago is no more poor than VW, EKY or various places in the south that dont have this problem. The problem is these people are fucking animals and theyre allowed to be, and are getting worse.
Canada does, it's just suppressed by organizations because of political correctness.
So if the data is suppressed (and your article confirms it is not collected at all in some jurisdictions), how do you know there is a trend of gun violence specifically in poor black neighbourhoods, but not in other racial categories? Personally I think Canada likely has similar, if less inflamed, issues as the US in terms of racial disparity and over-representation in criminal statistics simply because CA/US cultures aren't that far apart. However I find claims of specific trends lack credibility without actual data to back it up. I would love if we had actual public data on this so we could try to address issues that might exist.
Or you can simply pay attention to the media, which paint a picture of what's happening too.
No, there is too much bias in media. I take trends in media as trends in what people are interested in at the time. When I see an uptick in articles about police killing unarmed black civilians, I don't assume this is suddenly happening more often, only that people are suddenly more interested in those stories.
attacking Americans in their sleep. It's so hilariously bad you couldn't even fit it in a 50's B-movie.
without the sound of the motor.
Just the high pitch of the bit cutting into metal.
It would be like blaming gravity for people who jump off a bridge/building.
More like blaming a lack of guard rails. The point is not that having easy access to guns makes suicide possible, yes of course if someone is really determined they can always find a way to kill themselves, the point is that having lots of guns lying around makes suicide quick and easy.
The difference between someone who is dead and someone who had a brief but intense episode of depression is sometimes a matter of convenience - how easy is it for them to kill themselves in that moment?
The thing that surprised me most about this whole affair was that no-one seems to have modified a gunfire location system to see where these sounds originated.
I understand that ensuring the safety of your diplomatic staff is of primary concern but, given the US's traditional response to threats, I'd have expected a 'squad' of marines or a pair of men in dark glasses knocking on the door of room 623 in the overlooking office block* within a week of 'hearing' the sounds.
*An example. Not the actual location of the origin of the sounds, as far as I know...
The problem is that Black Lives Matter doesnâ(TM)t focus on the 8000 Black on Black murders per year, they focus on the 25 unarmed blacks killed by police each year. It seems they need to reprioritize.
You put a dozen focused emitters in various locations and point them at your target, syncing them up for constructive interference.
Did you know in 2016, 52.6% of US homicides were committed by n i g g e r s?
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/table-21
Number of Americans killed by automobiles in the last decade (as of 2016): 350,408. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year
So, whatever statistics show, your country is a fucking warzone, isn't it?
So clueless
The cuban sonic weapon crisis and the US government's crusade against Kaspersky Lab of Russia are closely related.
Absolutely true. I've always been haunted by this article in the New Yorker about the very things you describe.
I don’t understand the mystery here. Seems like a simple unltrasound attach to me. They have been beaming sound on not people’s heads for years.
Has anyone filed a dmca takedown notice yet ?
Americans killed by guns in recorded history: 0
Is that like that philosopher who insisted that nobody was killed by a sword, they died from not avoiding the sword?
Here's a shock for you, guns do kill people.
On a side note, concealed carry warning and brandishing probably stops that many robberies, rapes and murders in a week...
Because...you must think that attempted robberies, rapes, and murders are so common that there are thousands a week! What kind of crime-ridden world of fear do you live in?
Americans killed by medical mistakes each year: about 250,000
And we've got a whole group of people arguing about that problem too!
Americans killed by antibiotic resistant bacteria each year: 23,000
Also discussed.
Clearly guns are not that big a threat unless you are an alt left fascist progressive looking to dominate and subjugate the American people.
Nope, guns are a big threat to the American people, what with deaths from toddlers with guns, whereas imaginary fears of alt-left fascist progressives looking to dominate and subjugate the American people aren't a threat at all, except so insofar as they lead right-wing pseudo-conservative trolls to instigate feigned outrage in America.
Every dictator in the last 100 years from Stalin to Mao on down the line disarmed their people first and then murdered millions of them.
Nope. In fact, many dictators armed their people, then told them to go forth and kill "not their people" because well, that's a great way for dictators to keep power.
You must not be familiar with history.
Guns are in fact inanimate objects controlled by their wielder, which is why every LEO in the country carries one.
Guns, are in fact, tools that ought to be regulated like many other tools, such as lawnmowers, chainsaws, pressure washers, and nail guns, and no, not every LEO in the country carries one. For example. And some shouldn't.
Any group that uses "gun deaths" are political shills with no interest in truth.
I wonder if you realize that group includes yourself.
Gun deaths usually include suicides (who just use different methods in gun free countries), criminals shot by police or citizens, and other justified shootings that are actually a good thing for society and end up saving lives.
Nope, actually, they're not using different methods, the suicide rates are often lower, self-defense and other justified shootings are excluded from the counts though actually...the number of such shootings is a problem, not even counting the various incidents.
Sorry, I know you don't want there to be any problem except not having enough bullets for all those dirty leftists who you hate with all you
...is that you? I once saw you kill three men in a bar with a pencil, a fucking pencil! Who the fuck can do that?
It might also be worth mentioning, then, that legal access to assisted suicide would reduce gun deaths by up to a third. Take a few other easy steps toward a better society (better social safety net, worthwhile education, fair economic opportunities, etc) and I think you could knock off another third.
Keep in mind that you can "fix" crime statistics into different categories if you change the race of the offender. Something that's very popular in Chicago and Philly right now.
Like it Texas? You know, where the police tried to conceal their own malfeasance? Horrors!
Sorry, Mashiki, once again, you're suffering a mistaking of facts.
It's the police trying to hide their misconduct.
It's called Tinnitus...
The US is absolutely packed with tens of millions of white guys with guns and this is as bad as it gets.
The US doesn't yet have tens of millions of Muslims. Wait until the Muslim population is at 20% and they think it's finally time to take over in the name of their satanic pedophile prophet.
The rates of deaths will sky rocket. The US will collapse into civil war or anarchy and it'll look just like the modern day Middle East.
Welcome to your Muslim inspired future.
I'm more inclined to believe that it's another state-actor or else a very, very large criminal enterprise, something on the international scale.
Of course it is a state actor. Also it seems very clear that it is probably a false flag op trying to create friction between Cuba and the US. Lets think about this: In recent years there are has been a considerable thawing of relations between the US and Cuba. Previously, it was a Soviet friendly country right off the coast of the US. If Cuba suddenly becomes A BFF with the US, what do you think happens to relations with Russia?
Moreover, Putin has signed off on outlandish 'James Bond' operations before. (Poisoning a journalist with radioactive material, conducing false flag terrorist bombings, etc.). Using exotic ultrasonic weapons to deafen embassy personnel sound like something right out of his playbook.
Police detectives look for motives when working on a case. I'd say Putin has a pretty good motive to keep US - Cuba relations on ice.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
Yes, you are.
Does a hick in NC trying to blow up an airport count? Because that literally just happened.
There's literally no mechanism by which sound waves could do the damage they claim has occurred without absolutely massive sound generating equipment being used pretty much right on top of the embassy.
My guess is that either some other environmental factor is to blame, or even more likely that the panic over this supposed phenomenon is causing people to go to the doctor and actually get a hearing test, only to discover that like most people, they suffer from some age-related hearing loss they didn't know they had, only reinforcing their paranoid suspicions.
I'm just surprised the doctors are stupid enough to go along with this farce.
What is the acceptable number of unarmed people being killed by the cops? It seems every couple of weeks there is video of yet another black guy being shot for no particularly reasonable reason. And every month or so we see a white person acting aggressively crazily, charging a cop and knocking them down then trying to steal a squad car just this month alone, and not being shot by cops.
The question is why does the white guy not get shot but the black guy does. It's a rhetorical question, we already know the answer.
Because he's black.
Most suicides attempts are momentary lapses in impulse control. If it were extensively premeditated, people would wear diapers to control bowel release, and do it on a plastic sheet in the tub to not make a mess, or dig a hole in the woods and rig up a dump for quick burial.
So yeah, guns make it easy to successfully commit suicide. The easiest way there is. Point and click. Done. Usually. Sometimes you bleed out slowly, or are just brain damaged. Reducing gun availability makes it harder to commit suicide. Suicidal losers are brain damaged or lazy and unsuccessful, hence suicidal nature. Make it harder and they'll give up. One more thing they are not good at.
That's a discriminatory and offensive thing to say about sex workers and is also age discrimination. I'm offended. I will be reporting you to the Terrorism Hotline.
Yea. It's a case of charging a cop and trying to steal a squad car while black.
"killed by guns" guns are dead object, gun can not kill anyone.
The first reports of these attacks were in Russia, against US dignitaries. That was like two months ago so why has the media forgotten about that? Oh, that's right, that wouldn't make sense in the media created Trump is in bed with Putin stories! (Not that he is or isn't)
Life is in a state of dynamic equilibrium, it both blows and sucks
Starting with you, stupid sand monkey
These sounds are "ringers" for ultrasonic jewelry cleaners. What we hear may be the audible component of a powerful wave (in person, not via a speaker) whose harmonics may be of great harm to resonant microstructures in the human anatomy: for the inner ear, for fine cerebral capillaries, anything the operator may wish to destroy. I nearly flipped when I heard the sound from my ultrasonic cleaner-- what lurks in the higher harmonics. See concept of the Harmonic Gun in Alfred Bester's The Demolished Man.
Ban gangs in cities; only gang farmers should be allowed.
Sadly, a Libertarian cannot force his views on another, and freedom cannot spread as does the cancer known as religion.
It sounds like a cicada to me.
Speaking of which, we're seeing exactly that same type of problem with gun violence in black neighborhoods here in Canada. But we don't see the same level of problem in say poor chinese, indian, or vietmanese neighborhoods.
Given that Canada doesn't track racial statistics as they relate to crime very well (or at all in many cases), I'm going to have to see a citation for that.
rhazz ... you must live in Toronto - and take it to be template for the entire Universe. In Vancouver, a lot of gun violence tends to revolve around drug gangs in the Indo-Canadian community, as there are very few black people in this neck of the woods.
"Sound experts and physicians say they know of no sound that can cause physical damage", but there is indeed one that the japanese use on a regular basis against my Sea Shepherd comrades! It's called the LRAD. The Long Range Acoustic Device's purpose is to make sound - lots of sound. It produces very loud sound that is audible over relatively long distances. But it's not limited to producing painful noise for use as a weapon which causes disorientation. It can also amplify voices or recordings to a level that is loud and clear but not painful or debilitating. It's usually used for "non-lethal, non-kinetic crowd control". https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
So if the data is suppressed (and your article confirms it is not collected at all in some jurisdictions), how do you know there is a trend of gun violence specifically in poor black neighbourhoods
By paying attention. Something that most people don't do now. When the CBC is saying the same thing, there might, maybe, possibly, maybe, be something there.
Or you can ignore it all, along with people saying the same thing. Take your pick.
Om, nomnomnom...
More like blaming a lack of guard rails.
So when someone climbs a crossing, walks along a set of tracks, gets on a bridge and jumps onto the ground below it's because of a lack of guard rails? Brilliant. Fences everywhere then right? You'll be taking up collection along the grand canyon first I'm guessing.
Om, nomnomnom...
So when someone climbs a crossing, walks along a set of tracks, gets on a bridge and jumps onto the ground below it's because of a lack of guard rails?
This is an awfully specific bridge that you're talking about. Maybe it wasn't a very good analogy to begin with? Maybe when I said, "more like," I didn't mean, "exactly like"? Maybe you should read the rest of what I said instead of focusing on your own dumb analogy?
The last time the definition of terrorism was redefined it became so vague as to make very single civil rights spokesman from the 1960s into a terrorist.
We actually need a succinct definition of "terrorist acts" so there is some standard for the term.
Currently, you are a terrorist if you say " is an ignorant putz and should be removed from office, preferably in handcuffs at gunpoint." You become a terrorist for trying to influence a change in government policy by threatening violence.
NRRPT/RCT