The Internet Is Ripe With In-Browser Miners and It's Getting Worse Each Day (bleepingcomputer.com)
Catalin Cimpanu, reporting for BleepingComputer: Ever since mid-September, when Coinhive launched and the whole cryptojacking frenzy started, the Internet has gone crazy with in-browser cryptocurrency miners, and new sites that offer similar services are popping up on a weekly basis. While one might argue that mining Monero in a site's background is an acceptable alternative to viewing intrusive ads, almost none of these services that have recently appeared provide a way to let users know what's happening, let alone a way to stop mining behavior. In other words, most are behaving like malware, intruding on users' computers and using resources without permission. [...] Bleeping Computer spotted two new services named MineMyTraffic and JSEcoin, while security researcher Troy Mursch also spotted Coin Have and PPoi, a Coinhive clone for Chinese users. On top of this, just last night, Microsoft spotted two new services called CoinBlind and CoinNebula, both offering similar in-browser mining services, with CoinNebula configured in such a way that users couldn't report abuse. Furthermore, none of these two services even have a homepage, revealing their true intentions to be deployed in questionable scenarios.
Even more reason to disable Javascript.
I suspect the submitter meant "rife" rather than "ripe".
Of course, since "ripe" can mean "stinky", maybe it fits.
Is there a way that someone could write a browser plugin that returns wrong/garbage results to the crypto mining command and control server, rendering entire massive calculation trees wrong and useless and destroying their scheme?
Ideally a way to enable/disable per site so that sites that ask permission can be granted on a case-by-case basis.
No? Then this is the same discussion we had decades ago about ads and it will end up in the same way.
If you go to a site, then you give it explicit permission to use resources on your computer. Whether that resource is doing stuff on the Internet (AJAX) or doing stuff on your computer (mining).
A user can control your computer though, they can limit the amount of cycles a website or browser gets to spend, block JavaScript, block whatever resource they want. In the end, the user is letting them do this and once sites see that it's costing them more money than it profits (when people stop visiting the "slow website") they'll learn.
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You don't want things loading in your browser session that are doing things you don't want them to do.
But couldn't this be said about any code on a website? When you go to the page, you're loading whatever JS, Flash, etc that is on their site. You're the one going there, it isn't anything malicious.
What's the difference between this stuff, and say someone using uncompressed images that suck your bandwidth excessively? Is the only difference, that they may be profiting from this slightly? If so, why is that bad, when most sites need to show you some ad, sell you something, etc to be profitable?
More like rife.
I believe the word the author was looking for is "rife" as in filled with/replete with.
Just another reason that add blockers like uBlock Origin are mandatory. I also browse with a JS dynamic switch so I can kill JS with a button press for obnoxious sites.
If you disagree, please post your argument. (-1, Overrated) isn't your personal censorship tool for views you don't like
"As an alternative to ads, we are testing out in-browser cryptocurrency mining as a means to fund our website. If you prefer our ad-supported version, click here" and see how many would actively choose ads. I mean if this is a functioning micro-transaction system I think it's got much less downsides than almost every other possible alternative, particularly that you don't need any kind of payment info or personal data. If it's any kind of site where you have an account you could have like points and build up a sort of credit you'd "pay" with to read articles and so on.
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I presume these are using web workers as they don't lockup the UI? How many legitimate uses of web workers are there, couldn't we just disable them?
Maybe w3c should drop them from the browser spec entirely.
Indeed, yet JavaScript, for all its many, many foibles, is a much more universal computing platform than we have ever been able to achieve by other means. For this reason alone we shouldn't be in such a hurry to abandon it. Is anyone looking forward to going back to having to support Flash, Silverlight, java applets, and whatever new half-baked solution gets dreamed up by a bullying vendor.
We are still heading towards a good place. It took a long time to beat down IE and its deliberate consensus killing behavior, and to nudge JS into a form that is sufficiently standardised and supported. We are just a few short steps from asm.js becoming a reality, and all the benefits that will flow from there. Rather than rejecting JS outright, I think it is better to continue to find solutions to these sorts of problems. The web needs a common client side computing platform, and I don't see where any useful alternative is going to come from right now.
Even more reason to disable Javascript.
While I agree with that sentiment, I have to wonder why this is such a big deal?
Assuming that mining is not actually harming me or my computer - destroying files, or leaking my information to someone - why should I care? If I visit a website and read an article, maybe a minute of my time, my computer is otherwise idle and the amount of energy spent is negligible.
We've always wanted a way to monetize visiting a site, could this be a way to do it?
Suppose we had a service where people could submit computationally intensive problems which can be broken down into smaller computational units. Such as "folding at home" or "seti at home".
The answers to some of those problems could be valuable, so we could imagine research institutions paying money to use the system to solve those problems, and pay out based on the amount of computation a website brings in.
This is proportional to the number of users who view the website, and for how long. This could be a user-friendly alternative to advertising.
In fact, one can imagine the *government* paying money to use the system as a make-work program: it would encourage people to make better, more meaningful websites overall. Would the sociological benefit outweigh the extra costs?
(Assuming that people don't game the system, but it seems reasonable that we could learn all the gaming techniques over time and avoid them. Sort of how we deal with advertizing clicks currently.)
I don't see what the problem here is, and look at it as an opportunity.
Could this be a user-friendly way to monetize a website, as an alternative to advertising?
This is the endgame for javascript: executing unauthorized code on your computer. Now that it's becoming so entirely blatant, we may actually start seeing the general public getting protection from runaway javascript scripts.
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This "problem" is so exaggerated it's becoming annoying to hear about it again and again.
First of all, most respectable websites will never do anything like that. Secondly, shady websites which do host mining JavaScript are not normally visited by most people and the ones who visit such websites usually leave them quite fast, which means bad scripts can only run for a very limited amount of time. Thirdly, we've always had websites which peddle malware and somehow they stopped being newsworthy years ago. All of a sudden, they are again in the news.
Fourthly, we now have "good" websites which stress your CPU so much they can be considered "harmful". What about ad networks whose JS tax your CPU? Why aren't we talking about them?
Last time I checked, websites weren't getting explicit consent for user data-mining either.
Yes they are. Private Browsing in Firefox does two things related to data mining: it turns persistent cookies into session cookies, and it doesn't connect to third party tracking services. "Disable protection for this site".
That assumes a website is not doing both ... in that case then fuck them all to hell.
They'll do both, arguing that doing both has precedent. Magazines, newspapers, and multichannel pay television rely on combined revenue from ads and subscriptions because they can't pay their writers with one or the other alone.
Flag. These. As. Malware. Let's see how these smarty pants website owners and advertisers react when their users start avoiding the site because they are getting anti-malware alerts and get demoted in search engine results
It's parasitic and hidden, but to believe that an opt-in checkbox equates to being "in the clear" - hell, that op-tin being offered at all is supposed to be par for today's commercial atmosphere - is awfully naive.
In fact, this "hidden" behavior? Is still transparent relative to the shit being done with various fingerprints/useragents, with the hundred different metrics possible on your phone. To say nothing of you unfortunate souls with accounts on facetweet and socnets.
It's almost refreshingly simple. They're mooching your CPU, your electricity, but the intent is plain, the motives obvious. Compare it to the clusterfuck, the rat-king of trade-and-parcel done with your credit info/score/history/etc. We're oblivious to the amount of closed-door behavior going on around us, of how many databases end up hooking a single instance of you flashing your insurance card to get a painkiller or flu shot, or a scratch on the car.
Again, it's unscrupulous, yes, but "shady"? Consider that word and apply it to the shady pickpocket who grabs your $20's and throws your wallet on the sidewalk, versus the shady cartels running our world, ISPs and Muh Big Pharma and all our good friends trashing the atmosphere/soil/rainforest/aquabeds/whatever without a moment's hesitation, global-scale behaviors behind purchased laws, behind NDAs, behind agreement named with so much obfuscating euphemism you think it benefits consumer proles. Go ask a stranger what "net neutrality" is.
Christ, you can probably stop these scripts with a browser mod or two, or a greasemonkey. Five minutes of placement. While if you fuck with your registry and hosts file maybe you'll get (most of) win10's bullshit to stop showing up on wireshark.
I'd probably prefer a silent miner (esp. if throttled to polite levels) over the butterfly dominoes from an ad watched by DoubleClick, with a facebook pixel watching. Submission is stupid about what he can hope for, naive, thinks an ad is just "Buy my book" and done. Thinks clicking "don't send me emails" is a win.
Not an apologist, just mentioning perspective.
Mining to your own account in Javascript is stupid. It's incredibly inefficient (ie. it wastes lots more electricity than you will ever see in return). If you're going to mine it then mine it natively. The only reason it works for them is because it's not their electricity.
There is no way in hell the revenue from mining can match ads. This whole mining in the browser thing is just for illegitimate uses (ie. malware).
The point (which you seemed to have missed) is that any vaguely legitimate website will be able to make more money selling ads than they will by mining bitcoin on their visitor's computers. (Note that as Bitcoin value increases, the effort required to mine increases as well.)
Since you can make more money by selling ads than mining bitcoin in Javascript, the only ones who will do it are those who don't have the ability to sell ads.
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But I have 36 tabs open right now.
Without fact checking your numbers...
1) my computer would come to a crawl
2) I walk away for a day and it'll cost me $15/day...
Can you give an example?
I'm sure there is one. But I can't think of any. I think that many web sites and applications use Javascript to briefly set up event handlers on controls. Those event handlers react to clicks and other user interactions, and spend very little time doing so.
But I can't think of an example of a browser-side CPU intensive application.
Actually, I CAN think of one that I would contrive. But it is a legit example. Suppose you had something that wanted a lot of CPU time, and people could contribute CPU time by doing nothing more than pointing a browser at a URL and letting it sit there -- contributing CPU time. But do you have a better example?
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