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Twitter Plans To End Revenge Porn Next Week, Hate Speech In Two (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: In the beginning of 2017, Twitter said it would take on harassment and hate speech. CEO Jack Dorsey said the company would embrace a "completely new approach to abuse on Twitter" with open dialogue along the way. For months, though, the company has offered few details about what it would do, or when. That changed late yesterday, when Twitter posted a timeline with specific promises on actions it will take. The changes begin next week. On October 27, Twitter will expand what types of "non-consensual nudity" (aka "revenge porn") that it takes action against. The company will already act when a victim complains, but Twitter will soon act even in cases where the victims may not be aware images were taken, instances like upskirt photos and hidden webcams. "Anyone we identify as the original poster of non-consensual nudity will be suspended immediately," the October entry reads. On November 3, Twitter will ban hate imagery in profile headers and avatars, and the service will start suspending accounts "for organizations that use violence to advance their cause." The same day it will institute a policy of stopping "Unwanted Sexual Advances," although the company says it has already been taking enforcement actions on this front. Later in November, Twitter will ban "hateful display names."
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I look forward to seeing Antifa accounts suspended.
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Violence against nazis, white supremacists and fascists is acceptable. It's always been acceptable and it always will be acceptable. It may not be politically correct to punch nazis, but that's too bad. Suck it up, buttercup.
Violence against nazis, white supremacists and fascists is part of our heritage. You're not trying to destroy our heritage, are you?
Here is the problem. ANTIFA are Nazis. They look like Nazis and act like Nazis. They just do not know what a Nazi is.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
I look forward to seeing Antifa accounts suspended.
Good luck with that.
A fuckton of people are on Gab after getting kicked off of twitter, and are running a thread Not Allowed on Twitter.
I realize this is probably a biased sample, but there's a lot of "*this* got me kicked off, while *that* is allowed" posts that highlight the double-standard.
It would seem that left-leaning posts are taken with a wink and a smile, while right-leaning posts are censored with an overreaching iron fist. It's often completely mysterious what twitter standards are violated; apparently talking about and linking to someone twitter doesn't like (such as Milo) is enough to get you banned, even if the actual text is pedestrian such as "I saw this guy speak last night and he was OK".
There was one post that came out completely against Nazis (saying things like "Nazis are bad, I don't condone nazis, and the like) and apparently used the word "nazi" too many times and got banned. All from completely unexciting text.
Here's an example of a post that's *allowed* on twitter.
Unless this includes a policy reversal, Trump still get's a pass since he's basically their financial lifeline right now--err em, excuse me... I mean "news worthy."
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Here is the problem. ANTIFA are Nazis. They look like Nazis and act like Nazis. They just do not know what a Nazi is.
Actually they are fascists that think themselves marxists.
"His name was James Damore."
Opposition to *actual* Nazis is a good thing.
Antifa, however, just asserts that anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi, and that assertion is sufficient to justify any sort of violence they want to perpetrate. Their definition of "Nazi" seems to be anyone to the right of an ever-leftward-rushing line. Barbara Boxer recently ran afoul of them. Lately, they seem to be including the ACLU in their list of Nazi organizations.
Did everyone forget Pol Pot? That's where they seem to be heading.
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Almost everything you think you know about Antifa is due to trolling. There are extensive troll campaigns out there involving fake Antifa accounts. Each tries to outdo each other with the most outrageous thing they can say to make gullible right wingers take them seriously.
"Antifa" has no ideology except hatred of Nazis and those espousing similar ideologies (general white supremecists). It is not a "group". It has no "leaders". No little black book. Nothing except "hates and will actively oppose Nazis and other white supremecists", and random people who are of that view describe themselves with the term Antifa. Not all people who identify as "Antifa" support violence as a means to counter Nazi activity (there's been a widespread "Is it okay to punch a Nazi?" debate since Richard Spencer was punched on camera). Of those who would answer that with "Yes", there's a further subset known as "Black Bloc"; which again is not an ideology but more of a style (dressing in black and actively physically engaging when Nazis and aligned groups come to town). The "Don't punch a Nazi" crowd thinks of them as counterproductive. Black Bloc style protesting existed before "Antifa"; before the most recent flareup, it was most commonly associated in the US with WTO protests.
To reiterate: Black Bloc does engage in violence - although you might have been misled about "innocent victims". To pick an example: the most famous viral video of Black Bloc actions was this attack. Who is that poor innocent victim? Why, that's Keith Campbell, known on Twitter as "PatriotWarriorMedia". He's involved in R.A.M. ("Rise Above Movement"), a group built specifically around active training to engage in street brawls with perceived leftists. Rather than all black, their hide-their-face approach is black skeleton masks.
What did Campbell have to say about that protest where he got beaten up beforehand? Why let's look!: "Fuck Antifa! Let them come to Berkeley on August 27th so we can kick their asses AGAIN! @1776RealNews @ProudBoysCA @BasedCops"
How did that work out for you, Keith?
Anyway, this is all secondary to my main point, which was to make you aware of the fact that the vast majority of "Antifa" accounts are just trolling to try to dupe gullible right wingers. My personal take on the whole thing? Black Bloc protesters and R.A.M. deserve each other, and both can go F* themselves as far as I'm concerned.
I'll BUILD someone to replace you. Some kind of gamma-powered monster, with a heart as black as coal!
Funniest thing I've read this week.
Oh wait, you were serious. You actually think that AntiFa are national socialists. The group whose sole shared goal is opposing the far right, are also the far right.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Yeah, it's not like Nazi's would drive a car in to a crowd of people or shout racial slurs while firing a gun at someone in a crowd or anything...
Yeah, all that stuff must have been "fake news", right?
Required reading for internet skeptics
Got news for you: A lot of the original Nazis were also just cowards waving the flag.
It's simple: You wave the Nazi flag, you're a Nazi. There's no need to over-think this.
You are welcome on my lawn.
So what will this new SJW "internet" be like?
Positive news about communist parties and communist party history?
Really, really positive movie and actor reviews. Negative reviews get removed?
Reminders from governments about policy and laws?
Positive tourism stories?
Positive product reviews?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Welcome to the future, comrades!
Twitter: Building the Radiant Future one Goosestep at a time!
Based on Twitter's abuse of its users by banning people who lack right-think, and the narrower and narrower that band becomes, they're just going to be banning most of its active users for "hatespeech," i.e. opinions whomever is looking at it thinks is wrong.
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According to Twitter, no violence is acceptable, so if that is the policy all Antifa related accounts should be terminated. It doesn't matter how you feel about violence being acceptable, what matters in this case are Twitter's term of service.
P.S. if you endorse a philosophy where it is OK to use violence against people, they it is equally OK for them to use violence against you because hey, they also think you are fascists. That is why advocating for violence on any grounds is never very smart, because there is always someone who can classify you as being within the bounds you yourself set.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
That is exactly why many of us think Anti-Fa should be shut down, they are modern browncoats who use violence against the Other in exactly the same way.
Real "nazis" are not giving peaceful talks and demonstrations, real nazis are the ones hurting other people and damaging property and shutting down speech because it goes against the Party.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
If Antifa is serious about violence against Nazis, why haven't the gone after admitted Nazi collaborator George Soros?
Oh, that's right, because he bankrolls their operations through his "Open Society Foundation".
Do you believe every single news outlet in the world is
Before the 2016 election, I would have laughed at you for claiming that "every single outlet in the world [is wrong]". But we live in strange times, and news outlets aren't based in reality. At best, they report things that make money, or that garner eyeballs. At worst, they mislead the public to push political agendas and issues that benefit their shareholders and owners. And yeah, they frequently all report the wrong facts together, in a sort of hysteria. If you work in IT this phenomenon is obvious. A popular consensus of stupidity does not make an idea (or a news article) any less stupid.
"Antifa" has no ideology except hatred of Nazis and those espousing similar ideologies (general white supremecists). It is not a "group". It has no "leaders".
Hmm...that doesn't seem to be the case, hell the original antifa which they'll claim they're based off of had leaders and even openly supported communism. You find an antifa in the street and you can bet that they'll be hoping for a commie revolution along the way. The difference between a nazi and antifa are the side of the coin they're on, that's it. They both had leaders, they both have an ideology.
Antifa just happens to be engaging in the tactics that caused the same problem as last time. Namely violently assaulting anyone who doesn't bow and scrape to them.
I will agree that the vast majority of antifa accounts are there to troll. But what I find interesting is the number of communist LARPers that openly support them as well, and have a long history of supporting these tactics to "overthrow western society" and so on.
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Trump said some were good people.
On both sides no less. Oh I know, it's so hard when someone makes that comment about there being good people on both sides. Or shall we just say that since ABC, NBC, CBS and so on came out asking "is it okay to punch a nazi" and several commentators argued in favor for it, that they're actually all neo-fascist organizations bent on overthrowing capitalist society and you're the bulwark in their defense.
See how easy it is?
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Members of two violent gangs go looking for a fight. If fight ensues, they are both criminals. The danger is the conflict will grow, and more people looking for a cause and personal meaning will take up with one side or another.
And the antifa does have a particular ideological profile even it they aren't formally organized. (A activist tactic to avoid or route around police interference). The Jesish Rabbi council is definitely against Nazi's, but I would guess they tend to be pretty pro-capitalism. There is definitely a common ground of post-marxist critical theory and a tendency towards direct action outside of political channels. Trolls aside they do actually believe in a lot of left-wing nonsense.
Seriously, google antifa troll campaign. It isn't that hard.
They're fishing for gullible right-wingers. Amusing how well it works.
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Violence against nazis, white supremacists and fascists is acceptable. It's always been acceptable and it always will be acceptable.
No, it hasn't.
Liberals used to stand up for free speech. I was proud to be among them back then.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Except one side defines "Nazi" as anyone who disagrees with their extremist social and political decisions. And even if they were fighting only actual neo-Nazis, adopting every negative trait of a Nazi to fight a Nazi only makes you a hypocrite, not a freedom fighter.
And you had better remember that the precedent and laws you set today will be turned against you tomorrow. Punch a Nazi today and tomorrow *you* may be the Nazi that someone has decided that it's okay to punch.
And anyway, I don't want to live in a U.S. where the only freedom allowed is the freedom to agree.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
You repeat that canard, but it's just not true. We're talking about literal Nazis, promoting literal ethnic cleansing using literal swastikas. Just because they put a picture of Pepe next to the swastika doesn't make them less Nazi.
You are welcome on my lawn.
The medals were for heroism in battle. That is, for killing German soldiers. Most of those soldiers were not members of the Nazi party. They were fighting because their country told them to fight.
Our soldiers were doing the same thing: fighting because their country told them to fight. That's what soldiers do. That's what military heroism is about. Politics, Nazi, anti-Nazi, and otherwise had nothing to do with it.
Now stop lying, stop astroturfing, and go enjoy the Moscow snow.
unfortunately these white supremacist supporters are conspiracy nuts. they get upset when someone reacts to their bigotry and don't let them get away with it. they want the freedom to do what they want but don't want anyone else to have that freedom if its a direct reaction to their enjoyment of bigotry.
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)