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Chipmaker Nvidia's CEO Sees Fully Autonomous Cars Within 4 Years (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Nvidia chief executive Jensen Huang said on Thursday artificial intelligence would enable fully automated cars within 4 years, but sought to tamp down expectations for a surge in demand for its chips from cryptocurrency miners. Nvidia came to prominence in the gaming industry for designing graphics-processing chips, but in recent years has been expanding into newer technologies including high-performance computing, artificial intelligence, and self-driving cars. Its expansion has been richly rewarded with a 170 percent stock surge over the past year, boosting its market value to $116 billion. "It will take no more than 4 years to have fully autonomous cars on the road. How long it takes for the vast majority of cars on the road to become that, it really just depends," Huang told media after a company event in Taipei.

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  1. CEO says X that will do Y by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Y = raise the value of the stock options that is vesting in this quarter.

    X = something that may or may not happen in a few years.

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    1. Re:CEO says X that will do Y by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2
      Legal challenges too are seriously underestimated by the programmers.

      So many of us have the attitude, "If I acknowledge and document a defect, it is a known issue. We will fix it when we can, if we want to, if it is important enough ..."

      Oh, yeah, wait till you get up on the witness stand and the ambulance chaser asks you, "So, Ms Imac Oder, if your car is going at 79 mph, and you increment the set cruise speed by 1mph, the cruise control module will crash, and the throttle will open wide and the car will accelerate to maximum possible speed. Right?" [An actual condition found by Steve Wozniak in his Prius, cant find the citation now. ]

      When you need to take malpractice insurance to write code, then you are talking.

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  2. Move along, nothing to see here. by ThomasBHardy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Man selling autonomous car parts says big things about autonomous cars.

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  3. Yeah, right. by Viol8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Other than his cynicism in blatantly trying to raise his companies stock price self driving cars will never be fully automated until they have a good understand of human psychology as well as the rules of the road and laws of physics. Maybe driving in the nice wide roads and intersections in the US is relatively simple, but lets see these cars navigate a european or far eastern city where its very hard to get out of a side turn unless you push out, or streets that are 2 narrow for 2 way traffic and the automated car is coming down it but someone decides to come up the other way anyway.

    And theres the true test - lets see one navigate itself around the l'arc de triomphe roundabout in Paris. Good luck with that Mr Huang!

    1. Re:Yeah, right. by Nutria · · Score: 2

      Not even all roads in the US: big cities in rush hour, poorly marked rural roads in the rain, etc, etc.

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    2. Re:Yeah, right. by David_Hart · · Score: 2

      Not even all roads in the US: big cities in rush hour, poorly marked rural roads in the rain, etc, etc.

      Snow, black ice, obscured lines (mud, snow, etc.), obscured signs (bushes, etc,), broken traffic lights, lane closures and rerouting due to construction (i.e. lane shifts to the other side of the highway - my GPS hates this), and may other situations that are not really edge cases but part of everyday driving.

    3. Re:Yeah, right. by Beezlebub33 · · Score: 3, Informative

      During construction or repair (for example of a bridge), when there are 2 lanes going each way with a median between them, they will sometimes merge down to 1 lane each way, then have a temporary road connecting them. The result is that the two lane separated highway becomes a 1 lane each way non-separated highway. From the point of view of GPS and maps, it looks like you have driven across the median and are now traveling in the wrong direction on the 2-lane highway.

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    4. Re:Yeah, right. by Rei · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Interestingly enough, "rush hour traffic" is what current Level 2 systems are best at. Not at picking lanes, but at everything else. Lots of cars to help them stay centred in the lane even when lane markers are bad, slow speeds, etc, etc. It doesn't mean you can ignore the road, but it does mean less having to constantly focus on a line of unmoving cars to avoid the situation where if you don't start moving as soon as the car ahead of you does, people behind you get mad and start honking.

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    5. Re:Yeah, right. by be951 · · Score: 2

      lets see these cars navigate a european or far eastern city where its very hard

      Why start with that when there are much easier use cases? To me, that seems kind of like many of the arguments I used to see against EVs: "I drive over 100 miles a day" or "I frequently take long trips". So? There are plenty of other use cases where they work great. Same thing with autonomous vehicles. They don't have to solve every edge case from day one, just the most common circumstances.

      Most likely, the first deployment of fully autonomous vehicles on public roads will be in selected areas, perhaps geo-fenced (particularly if they belong to a service provider like Uber or Amazon), and might have exceptions to the allowed operating conditions. But that still satisfies the statement "It will take no more than 4 years to have fully autonomous cars on the road" if they are deployed on public roads within that time frame.

  4. Re:CEOs by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pay? Everyone used Trumpet Winsock which was shareware though very few people paid.

    https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...

    And of course when Windows 95 came out it had a built in TCP/IP stack.

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  5. Re:AD winter by pr0fessor · · Score: 2

    Winter is the time of year when it gets cold, the days are shorter, work and recreation both slow down preceding the end of the year. It is usually used to describe something that is coming to an end of some sort or the end of one thing and the beginning of something new depending on the context.

    In this case I would say he is leaving it open to interpretation either the money will dry up and the idea die or it will slow down and then evolve into something else. My guess is that we will end up with a very good auto-pilot but not fully autonomous vehicles.

  6. Re:Not in my lifetime by Rei · · Score: 2

    I'm not sure about "lifetime", but "any time soon"? Agreed. And I say this as a big Tesla fan. But the edge cases are just way too numerous, and not something you can just sweep on the rug with "oh, but it'll be safer because it never gets distracted...." Yeah, try telling that to the family of the person you just killed in a situation that a human could have easily avoided.

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  7. Re:AD winter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Exactly. All hype curves are followed by a disillusion phase, when the technology (or whatever) is not living up to the hype. It is followed by another phase where the real applications are found.

    It is now evident that good automated driving will take care of boring monotonous labor of driving for hours on highways. However, the city (and even rural) scenarios prove to be very, very difficult.

    I've not seen a credible L3 (let alone L4 or L5) FuSa or SOTIF (let alone high-availability) concept at any of the vehicle OEMS I've talked to. Of the OEMs, only one american company (not Tesla) has made a sound economic model for how and when AD/ADAS vehicles can be profitable. Pro tip: it's not selling them to people who let them sit and rust at parking lots 22 hours per day.

  8. Self Delivery = death of Auto Dealers by LesserWeevil · · Score: 2

    The folks you should be afraid of is the NADA (National Automobile Dealers Association) as they'll fight self-driving (and potentially self-delivering) vehicles to their dying breath. Oh, BTW, they're one of the largest lobbying groups at both the state and national levels. Expect laws to enable self-delivery to be delayed a number of years due to this boneheaded lot.

  9. We need an internet superhighway for cars by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    We should try to create something like the internet superhighway but for cars :-)

    Autonomous cars will be more successful if they can be partitioned away from the pesky human controlled cars. Creating special separted lanes for them would be a reasonable thing to do if we can assume that the flux in these lanes will rise or other benefits ensue (fewer accidents, more personal productivity leading to willingness to pay toll fees benefitting the highway system for everytone in return for not having to drive). If so then everyone, not just the elite early adopters of expensive self driving cars, will benefit from the special treatment of these vehicles in their own high bandwidth lanes.

    later on, as these cars dominate, we can move toward integrated systems outside the highway sandboxes.

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