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Microsoft Engineer Installs Google Chrome During Presentation After Edge Freezes (softpedia.com)

A reader shares a report: We've seen lots of blunders on stage, and still happen occasionally, but this must be the best of all. A Microsoft engineer downloaded, installed, and started using Google Chrome during a live presentation after Microsoft Edge, the default Windows 10 browser, stopped responding in the middle of a demo. In just a few words, Microsoft Edge froze while the engineer was working with virtual machines in the browser, and judging from how fast he proceeded to downloading Google Chrome, this wasn't the first time it happened. Because, you know, sometimes reloading the page or restarting the browser does help, but you can't risk hitting the same error twice, right? "I love it when demos break," he said. "So while we're talking here, I'm gonna go install Chrome," he continued before he started laughing, with many people in the audience cheering. "And we're going to not make Google better," he added when unchecking the box to send usage statistics and crash reports to Google, as if this made things less worse. "We're going to do this again, I'm sorry about this. The age of these machines are [sic] wacked down a little bit, there are some things that just don't work."

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  1. "...There are some things that just don't work." by sirpwn4g3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like Microsoft Edge.

  2. The best DEMO fail is this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW7Rqwwth84
    with Bill Gates himself on stage to watch the BSOD

  3. Sums it up by wbr1 · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:Sums it up by irrational_design · · Score: 2

      Or, if you are on OSX, the purpose of Safari is to install Chrome or Firefox.

  4. Demonstration by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 5, Informative

    The snafu begins at 36:46.

    1. Re:Demonstration by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ok...the summary states he said "The age of these machines are [sic] wacked down a little bit..." when if you actually listen to the presentation on that link you can tell he said "The 'Edge' on these machines are locked down a little bit..." Which makes a hell of a lot more sense to convey that security functions are making certain necessary features unavailable for the demo. Bogdan Popa, who wrote the linked article on Softpedia, needs to get the earwax out of his ears.

    2. Re:Demonstration by Aighearach · · Score: 2

      He should also stop using [sic] unless he actually verified it, because it doesn't mean "it sounded like to me."

  5. Might be a ruze by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 2

    A middle finger to Mozilla

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  6. Re:Seems about right by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I tried to use Edge last year. After a couple of hours I went back to Chrome. Visually, it's simply the shits, and it really doesn't work worth a damn. I'd rather use IE.

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  7. Not what he said at all... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    "The age of these machines are [sic] wacked down a little bit" is totally wrong. What was actually said is "The Edge on these machines are locked down a bit...".

    1. Re: Not what he said at all... by Monster_user · · Score: 2

      Then where did the [sic] come from?

      Lazy "journalism"?

    2. Re:Not what he said at all... by PingSpike · · Score: 5, Funny

      Naw, he probably did a dry run last night, but then Windows auto updated at 3am to a new version of Edge that was broken. Rookie mistake not removing the ethernet cable and burning out the wifi with a soldering iron.

    3. Re: Not what he said at all... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      [sic] because "age" is singular, hence the verb "are" is grammatically incorrect. The transcriber got the statement totally wrong, but did recognize the error in what he thought the presenter said.

  8. Re: Sums it up, officially. by Monster_user · · Score: 2

    Yup, that is now the official purpose of Edge, as demonstrated by an official Microsoft employee.

  9. A more serious question... by wbr1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did this engineer not know that Windows 10 also has IE installed? It is just a simple start menu/cortana seach away. Not favoring MS productrs here.. IMHO Edge and IE both suck in very different ways. Edge sucks becuase it is immature and doen't know any better. IE sucks because it apparently has decided that sucking is its purpose in life.

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    1. Re:A more serious question... by wbr1 · · Score: 2

      Silverlight does not run in chrome anymore, and would also require extra add-ons/extensions if it did. In fact just abou tanything I can think of as a web extension tech requires some sort of extra install - except javascript.
      Javascript sort of works in IE you know.
      This just shows that even MS engineers do not trust prefer MS software in certain circumstances.

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  10. Re:I guess... by v1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    he is sooo fired. and in the inevitable reference to windows 95 crashing on the live demo, at least in that case the presenter had Bill himself on stage to save him.. Presenter: "And watch as we plug in this.... (BSoD) whoa...." Bill: " and that's why we're not shipping it just yet..."

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  11. Re: Sums it up, officially. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    They're getting pretty desperate: I opened Edge on a new laptop to download another browser and the homepage was not their stupid msn.com site but a pitch to keep using Edge for performance reasons.

  12. Re:I guess... by barrywalker · · Score: 4, Funny

    he is sooo fired. and in the inevitable reference to windows 95 crashing on the live demo, at least in that case the presenter had Bill himself on stage to save him.. Presenter: "And watch as we plug in this.... (BSoD) whoa...." Bill: " and that's why we're not shipping it just yet..."

    Not to be a pedantic prick, but it was Windows 98. Yea, yea, I know - there wasn't much difference at that point.

  13. Re:Potemkin browser by PingSpike · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually, if you compare October 2015 https://www.netmarketshare.com... to September 2017 https://www.netmarketshare.com... it looks like most of the IE users left for Chrome and basically none of them moved to Edge.

  14. Re:Chrome still sucks by Teckla · · Score: 5, Informative

    Isn’t Opera owned by some dodgy Chinese company now?

  15. well by c · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In Microsoft's defence (and believe me, I don't defend them often), if they're eating their own dog food and running development versions of Edge (like they should be) and/or if the system they're demoing on is a development system, then it shouldn't come as a huge surprise to see something shit the bed like that.

    I don't doubt that Google folks have the occasional moment like that running Chrome or Android or whatnot...

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    1. Re:well by leonbev · · Score: 2

      There is a part of me that makes me think that this was some viral marketing attempt to get me to watch a demo video on Azure server migrations. If you watch the presentation, you'll see that he didn't exactly try all that hard to get it working with Edge before downloading Chrome.

      Azure is surprisingly open source friendly, and it wouldn't be totally surprised if this was was a (staged) attempt to demonstrate that.

  16. In other words. . . by smooth+wombat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    he went from one piece of spyware to another.

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  17. Re:Edge did not freeze by freeze128 · · Score: 2

    Group Policy makes Microsoft Presenter Install Chrome.

  18. Re:I guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmm, idk. He's not on the Edge team, otherwise he would be fired. But this guy did what he had to do to get through his demo; persisting with Edge and hitting the same issue several times, which it seems like he expected, would not only have trashed his demo, but it would hardly make Edge look good either, so switching to Chrome at that point cut the losses and minimised the damage all round. If heads were going to roll from this, I think it would be on the Edge team.

  19. Re:I guess... by haruchai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    he is sooo fired. and in the inevitable reference to windows 95 crashing on the live demo, at least in that case the presenter had Bill himself on stage to save him.. Presenter: "And watch as we plug in this.... (BSoD) whoa...." Bill: " and that's why we're not shipping it just yet..."

    Not to be a pedantic prick, but it was Windows 98. Yea, yea, I know - there wasn't much difference at that point.

    Anyone who complains about Wn95 or Win98 has never tried to live with Windows Millennium which was so bad it made everyone think that Y2K was happening a few months late.

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  20. Well there's your problem... by sootman · · Score: 2

    "And we're going to not make Google better," he added when unchecking the box to send usage statistics and crash reports to Google

    I'll bet he unchecked that box in Edge, too. No wonder it crashed! ALWAYS tick the box that says "help make this product better." It makes the product better! :D

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  21. Re:Edge did not freeze by Junta · · Score: 2

    Or that's the least bad sounding explanation he could pull from his ass in the heat of the moment. It doesn't make much sense.

    The two more likely explanations:
    -They have a bug in the javascript under edge they hadn't ironed out
    -There was a bug in their javascript with respect to some dom storage or cookie that the edge browser had picked up along the way that could have also broken chrome, but chrome had a clean slate and had not accumulated crap. Particularly if their framework reacts to cookies, being under 'microsoft.com' probably meant all kinds of completely irrelevant cookies not pertaining to app had accumulated in the browser and were being flung at their server.

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  22. Re:Just because it's not a surprise it's still a f by leonbev · · Score: 2

    If this was Apple, sure. His manager would have fired him just a few minutes after he walked off stage. Microsoft is more platform agnostic then they used to be, though.

    Besides, even if Microsoft did fired him right away, Google might hire him just for the PR value. He's become the cloud hosting equivalent of the old Verizon spokesperson working for Sprint.

  23. Re:Chrome still sucks by wbr1 · · Score: 2

    It's also chromium based.

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  24. he's not going anywhere by smithcl8 · · Score: 2

    Having watched hours of more recent Microsoft demos....Azure, PowerShell, etc......within the past couple years, I can tell you that the surprising part is that he started with Edge. The demos Scott Hanselman, Jeffrey Snover, and Mark Russinovich and so on, do are typically run on Macs or Surfaces, running Google Chrome in either case. Actually, I think that doing so is by design, to show off how cross-platform they think at the "new" Microsoft.

  25. Re:Edge did not freeze by samwichse · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes! This is an even better (worse) headline!

    Group policy on Windows 10 has been a nightmare, as different builds seem to fail in new and exciting ways.

  26. Re:Live demos on stage are frightening by rogoshen1 · · Score: 2

    sort of like lip syncing a live performance huh? that never, ever ends badly for the performer.

  27. Re:Just because it's not a surprise it's still a f by c · · Score: 2

    if Microsoft is serious about making Win10/Edge the number one platform/browser

    I'd say Microsoft has spent the better part of a decade repeatedly demonstrating that they're not serious about it.

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