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Microsoft Engineer Installs Google Chrome During Presentation After Edge Freezes (softpedia.com)
A reader shares a report: We've seen lots of blunders on stage, and still happen occasionally, but this must be the best of all. A Microsoft engineer downloaded, installed, and started using Google Chrome during a live presentation after Microsoft Edge, the default Windows 10 browser, stopped responding in the middle of a demo. In just a few words, Microsoft Edge froze while the engineer was working with virtual machines in the browser, and judging from how fast he proceeded to downloading Google Chrome, this wasn't the first time it happened. Because, you know, sometimes reloading the page or restarting the browser does help, but you can't risk hitting the same error twice, right? "I love it when demos break," he said. "So while we're talking here, I'm gonna go install Chrome," he continued before he started laughing, with many people in the audience cheering. "And we're going to not make Google better," he added when unchecking the box to send usage statistics and crash reports to Google, as if this made things less worse. "We're going to do this again, I'm sorry about this. The age of these machines are [sic] wacked down a little bit, there are some things that just don't work."
Like Microsoft Edge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW7Rqwwth84
with Bill Gates himself on stage to watch the BSOD
... he's updating his CV right now....
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Silence is a state of mime.
Not even MS can get Edge to work when they want it to work. That's why I don't use it. Maybe in the future when it's actually usable will I look into it.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
The snafu begins at 36:46.
A middle finger to Mozilla
"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
I have never seen anyone use or care about Edge. IE still has like 6x the users. Microsoft demos may be the biggest use case it has.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
"The age of these machines are [sic] wacked down a little bit" is totally wrong. What was actually said is "The Edge on these machines are locked down a bit...".
Yup, that is now the official purpose of Edge, as demonstrated by an official Microsoft employee.
Well Microsoft Cloud also uses Linux. So who does Microsoft fire for setting up that example?
Did this engineer not know that Windows 10 also has IE installed? It is just a simple start menu/cortana seach away. Not favoring MS productrs here.. IMHO Edge and IE both suck in very different ways. Edge sucks becuase it is immature and doen't know any better. IE sucks because it apparently has decided that sucking is its purpose in life.
Silence is a state of mime.
They're getting pretty desperate: I opened Edge on a new laptop to download another browser and the homepage was not their stupid msn.com site but a pitch to keep using Edge for performance reasons.
https://youtu.be/IW7Rqwwth84
Opera FTW
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This is why I only do demos on a whiteboard. It will never freeze up or crash on me, especially in the middle of a presentation! This whole internet thing is a fad anyway, if you ask me...
In Microsoft's defence (and believe me, I don't defend them often), if they're eating their own dog food and running development versions of Edge (like they should be) and/or if the system they're demoing on is a development system, then it shouldn't come as a huge surprise to see something shit the bed like that.
I don't doubt that Google folks have the occasional moment like that running Chrome or Android or whatnot...
Log in or piss off.
The thing that makes this news is the fact that the *biggest* competitor's browser was used, and thus the hat was tipped to them so to speak. Why wouldn't the presenter asked his/her self what the best way would be to diffuse the situation. At the least, hat should have been tipped to Mozilla Firefox. While it still would have received guffaws, at least having the day saved by 'open source' is better than having the day saved by Google. The more obscure open source in this case the better, but likely the presenter had to think quickly and needed something that was sure to work.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Maybe this guy and that Apple engineer they just fired can get together. Who know what they might come up with.
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Edge did not freeze, it was configured to be more locked-down within the corporation. So in order to get around locked-down clients, he simply installed Chrome rather than reconfigure Edge.
he went from one piece of spyware to another.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
...downloading Chrome or Firefox!
"And we're going to not make Google better," he added when unchecking the box to send usage statistics and crash reports to Google
I'll bet he unchecked that box in Edge, too. No wonder it crashed! ALWAYS tick the box that says "help make this product better." It makes the product better! :D
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I would think that when you're presenting as Microsoft (or Google, or Amazon...) and you're demonstrating, you must be ABSOLUTELY sure that if there is a problem, you can recover with your company's products.
I would be very interested to know if the presenter still has a job - if Microsoft is serious about making Win10/Edge the number one platform/browser then this guy and anybody else involved with the debacle should be looking for work today.
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If this was Apple, sure. His manager would have fired him just a few minutes after he walked off stage. Microsoft is more platform agnostic then they used to be, though.
Besides, even if Microsoft did fired him right away, Google might hire him just for the PR value. He's become the cloud hosting equivalent of the old Verizon spokesperson working for Sprint.
There are no policies of Microsoft that prevent it's employees from using other browsers. Even Chrome stops responding at times, happened with my Ubuntu a couple of times. It is similar to Priyanka Chopra needing to prove that she is still having an Indian touch , when it's not worthy!
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Why would you need to?
Pre-record the actions you intend to perform.
Then the "live" performance will work as you intended, on your timing.
Who would do something RANDOM in a live performance? You test, test, test and then - if you have an ounce of sense - pre-record it for the demo.
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I remember a talk by some unenthusiastic Novell(?) engineer talking about OpenOffice a couple years ago. He would say things like you know, this really sucked, now it sucks a little less. No corporate bs, no nothing. I was quite impressed. Maybe someone will be able to provide a youtube link.
Last night I was using the mbed online compiler, very much in The Zone, when it just stopped working. In my main browser it wouldn't even show the IDE screen, just a blank page. I tried other browsers, and even browsers on other computers that I had a remote screen connection for. All were broken, though some other browsers showed the IDE screen, which still wouldn't compile. It worked this morning, so it was obviously some sort of outage, but at least I knew it wasn't something that happened because of my web browser.
Yeah, I know, my big problem was depending on The Cloud for something. At least it was an excuse to make another attempt at getting the offline compiler working, but again I failed, apparently due to Python versions (and even a module that I had to download, but wasn't documented anywhere), and error messages where things were just left to throw exceptions without any explanation. Literally "it don't work" tier errors.
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Having watched hours of more recent Microsoft demos....Azure, PowerShell, etc......within the past couple years, I can tell you that the surprising part is that he started with Edge. The demos Scott Hanselman, Jeffrey Snover, and Mark Russinovich and so on, do are typically run on Macs or Surfaces, running Google Chrome in either case. Actually, I think that doing so is by design, to show off how cross-platform they think at the "new" Microsoft.
Since I'm not a jerk, I'll paste that result here:
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sort of like lip syncing a live performance huh? that never, ever ends badly for the performer.
I'd say Microsoft has spent the better part of a decade repeatedly demonstrating that they're not serious about it.
Log in or piss off.
I'm confused. Should I be installing "crime", "internet exploder", "sledge" or "firepox"?
Which breaks other shit.
Windows 10 is just a huge pile of shit. I have been using computers for nearly 40 years and I can honestly say that Windows 10 is the worst excuse for an OS I have ever seen.
So true! Ive gotten sick of the crap MS rolls. Change for the sake of change???
I know whenever I've seen MS demos of ASP.Net MVC they had to use Chrome because the web pages would be buggy under Edge. They also explicitly state this as opposed to claiming they are showing cross-platform works. I think generally in MS there is a feeling they should fire the whole browser team.
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If you are demoing MS products and you don't know how to save face and recover from a crash, then you are the wrong person to present that product... :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Yep. They really optimised the time it took to render the error page.
windows software being unstable such a shocker.
^ reading that thread reminded me of that time when I was late and got stuck at the losers table at the office christmas party. My soul still hurts.
lucm, indeed.
I would think that when you're presenting as Microsoft (or Google, or Amazon...) and you're demonstrating, you must be ABSOLUTELY sure that if there is a problem, you can recover with your company's products.
Wrong. Microsoft has a culture of not preparing meetings or demos, the idea being that you should know your shit and be able to adapt to what happens. There's been epic incidents but overall it didn't really hurt them.
lucm, indeed.
I've set up about 100 custom Windows 10 PCs so far, all different and all manually, not imaged, and I would say that Edge freezes the first time you open it approximately 75% of the time and randomly surfing the web or trying to download a file it's 1 freeze up and crash per hour minimum. From random users' event logs it's around 5 crashes per day. I've gotten over a dozen support calls about just Edge freezing up.
I bet there is a Edge developer knowing the exact cause of this bug, perhaps it was fixed but as they tied the browser updates to OS instead of store, they can't release the update to public.
I wonder when will we finally start to really see the Microsoft company for what it really is? Just a money sucking, copy and paste and ditch, no worth bloated and spying software company that it really is? Maybe when more of its shilling employees get ditched, I suppose. The web is oversaturated with them.
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