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Twitter Officially Expands Its Character Count To 280 Starting Today (techcrunch.com)

Twitter is rolling out an update around the world to allow users to post 280-character tweets. The company first announced the controversial plan to move beyond its traditional 140 characters back in September, noting at the time how a longer character count allowed users to express more of their thoughts without running out of room to tweet. TechCrunch reports: At the time of its original announcement, the company cited data backing up its decision that referenced how the character constraints impacted users differently, depending on their language. Twitter said that those who tweeted in languages like Japanese, Korean and Chinese were able to express around double the amount of information in a single character, compared with users who spoke English, Spanish, Portuguese or French, for example. In today's blog post about the public launch of 280 characters, Twitter aims to assuage people's fears that their timelines will fill with expanded tweets. The company said that during the trial period, people continued to tweet below 140 characters most of the time -- after the novelty of being able to use more characters wore off. Specifically, Twitter found that only 5 percent of tweets were sent out with more than 140 characters and of those, only 2 percent were over 190 characters.

98 comments

  1. cue the Trump tweet conversation by turkeydance · · Score: 1

    make Twitter great again

    1. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Say what you want, but it was under Trump that Saudi Arabia allowed women to drive cars and arrested ISIS-funding billionaires and princes. Totally co-incidentally and most likely unrelated to funding terrorists, these same guys have also funded the Clinton Foundation.

      On the negative side, my stocks are up only up 23% this year. I thought Trump promised 50%. And the fucking wall? The prototypes are epic and all, but there's about 100 feet of the actual wall that was built to date, not 1000 miles.

    2. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Meh.

      Somebody already figured out how to make a 30,000 character post on Twitter.

    3. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by captainproton1971 · · Score: 1

      He's president of Saudi Arabia now? Geez... next you'll be telling me he's the president of the Virgin Islands.

    4. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you name two things that have not improved under Trump? No, liberals' mood and hysteria do not count.

      Hell, they even exposed more Hollywood molesters and pedophiles this year under Trump.
      What's not better?
      Economy? Jobs? Murder Rate? Unemployment? Trade deficit? Abortions down? Home purchasing up? Illegal immigration not way down? Black wealth not up? What, exactly, don't you people like?

    5. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No that's one of Jared Kushners roles.

    6. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Can you name two things that have not improved under Trump?

      Besides my own health and welfare?

    7. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obamacare not working out too well for you? Sorry to hear that; call your congressman and tell her to stop blocking Trump's initiatives.

    8. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by i286NiNJA · · Score: 1

      Comrade I hate to tell you but nobody will give you any rubles for trolling slashdot in 2017.

    9. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Denial is a river in Egypt.
      Brought to you by Hitler Trump Russia.

    10. Re: cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Double the characters, double the TRUMP. Fuck yeah!

    11. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by ckatko · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I love that as much as Slashdotters hate Trump, they LITERALLY post about him in EVERY THREAD no matter how related or not he is to the discussion. And nobody ever mods them as off-topic.

      It's like Reddit hating on Justin Bieber saying "they're shoving him down our throats" except the only time you ever even hear about him... is on Reddit.

    12. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Civil discourse and America's perception around the world

    13. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Number of days between mass shootings. 2. The national debt

    14. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Say what you want, but it was under Trump that Saudi Arabia allowed women to drive cars and arrested ISIS-funding billionaires and princes. '

      Trump? No, that's just their crown-prince playing Game of Thrones.
      Trump couldn't find it on a map.

    15. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by dywolf · · Score: 1

      Number of daily gun deaths.
      The economy (no, he doesn't get credit for Obama's last fiscal year).
      America's reputation and standing in the world.
      The environment.
      Worker protections.
      Consumer protections.

      Or any of the things you listed.

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      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
    16. Re: cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have read the Paradise Papers right? You do know that the US, Russia, China, etc try to influence elections through multiple vectors right? You are aware that Obamacare was doomed from the beginning...just run some numbers...simple math, right? I didn't vote for any of the candidates since they all are horrible choices, but saying that Trump went out of his way to win the election by any means is just plain ridiculous...do you honestly think he would still be in office if there was any compelling evidence.

    17. Re: cue the Trump tweet conversation by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      The difference is that Bieber is not the President of the United States. You can turn off the TV and live a life free from Bieber's autocratic impositions.

    18. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by aristotle-dude · · Score: 1

      Comrade I hate to tell you but nobody will give you any rubles for trolling slashdot in 2017.

      Then why are you still here? Pro-bono?

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    19. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Again? Because the millions of nig-nogs on twitter are always posting such insightful and interesting microblogs, such as "MUH DIK" and "WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEEIT!"?

    20. Re:cue the Trump tweet conversation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the info.
      I tried to fact-check you on this, so perhaps you could help me out here?

      Daily gun deaths: did they really increase under Trump? Locally in my county they were way down. For the whole country, the last public stats the CDC has compiled for gun-related homicides are for 2015 (and there was a steady increase under Obama, from 10k to 13k per year). Where did you get the stats for daily gun deaths increase under Trump?

      Economy: I am not sure that Obama deserves all the credit for the epic growth. He does deserve a lot of credit (generally not given) for stopping the economic collapse in 2009-11 though, so let's let it slide. But since the last election (actually, since the two days past the last election), there is a clear anomalous growth. It is possible that this is due to Hillary losing (very anti-business candidate) rather than due to Trump winning.

      America's reputation and standing in the world? Debatable, but in my limited experience, US is viewed as a stronger country across the board. Definitely more respected in China and Mexico, probably less in Germany and France...

      The environment: unclear why you think it is worse. I checked e.g. air quality at https://www.epa.gov/air-trends and they only report up to 2016. Comparing last year's average to yesterday's scores at AirNow, the quality is WAY better (but of course this compares apples to oranges, and they do not give average to date, or I cannot find it). Personally,I have yet to see any actual damage caused by revoking burdensome EPA regulations and such. Any decrease in air quality (apart from the unrelated CA fires)?

      Worker/Consumer protections Such as? Did you see that Trump's DHS has approved only 21% of H1B visas to date. By this time last year, over 90% of petitions were approved. Perhaps not so great for the tech companies, but most American workers feel better protected.

  2. Oh boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Twice the amount of incoherent ramblings from the 6 year old occupying the Oval Office. How about limiting it to 14 characters instead? Would at least make it more interesting.

    1. Re:Oh boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With hope, it'll be the same amount. We just won't get to hear Colbert say "DAUGHT-DAUGHT-DAUGHT...DAUGHT-DAUGHT-DAUGHT-DAUGHT" in-between his multipart tweets anymore.

    2. Re:Oh boy... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Oh man! You better alert Congress! Did you know that you have to be 35 years old to be President???

      Your revelation would shock the world and give us a clear path to impeaching the traitorous orange Ooma Loompa with tiny hands who likes to be peed on and likes to harass women and probably hates black people and, I heard, likes pineapple on pizza!

      Anonymous Coward has cracked the case!!!

    3. Re:Oh boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How about limiting it to 14 characters instead?"

      Exactly enough.
      Covfefe.Covfefe.

    4. Re:Oh boy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do they even have a limit? It's fucking text, it'll compress to a tiny fraction of its size for storage.

      Twitter is like a service that's trying way too hard to be retro-cool by imposing artificial limits.

  3. Sounds good in theory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but I think we can all name some people who shouldn't express more of their thoughts...

  4. feeds fill up by Quirkz · · Score: 1

    So, people were worried an extra 140 characters would fill up my feed? When half of the tweets I see have giant photos filling up ten times as much space, I'm hardly worried about an extra line and a half a text.

    1. Re:feeds fill up by iampiti · · Score: 1

      A piece of text of 280 characters takes longer to process than a picture regardless of its size

    2. Re:feeds fill up by Wulf2k · · Score: 2

      What if it's a picture of 281 characters?

    3. Re: feeds fill up by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      Maybe if all the images are content-free memes, and you read at a second grade level.
      Actually, that sounds exactly like Twitter.

  5. I'm not impressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have diarrhea running down my leg. Now THAT'S interesting.

  6. Won't make a difference... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Twitter was a company that was born by accident. The technology was a side project that took off on its own. The four founders were more interested in playing musical chair with the CEO spot. The revenue model came years after burning through VC funding. One founder pulled a Steve Jobs by quoting Steve Jobs, listening to the music that Steve Jobs liked, dressing up in a Steve Jobs uniform (same clothes, simple style), and staging a Steve Jobs comeback after starting another company. Mark Zuckerburg called Twitter a clown car that fell into a gold mine. Another 40 characters won't change this.

    Source: "Hatching Twitter: A True Story of Money, Power, Friendship, and Betrayal"

    1. Re:Won't make a difference... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Gold mine? Of funding, sure. They're still completely unable to monetize the platform in any sort of sustainable or profitable way. The only useful reports advertisers get about Twitter is how many of the accounts are fake.

      They'll be dead in a few years.

  7. Which means that... by kurkosdr · · Score: 2

    US citizens will get longer presidential addresses from today.

    1. Re:Which means that... by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      They'll have to wait for the next President, because this one doesn't know how to construct a sentence longer than 140 characters! Believe me!

  8. Won't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trump doesn't have the attention span to type that many characters.

    covfefe!!!!

    1. Re:Won't matter by boudie2 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Calm down! It's only for 7 more years.

    2. Re:Won't matter by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      ... under the current constitution.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    3. Re:Won't matter by boudie2 · · Score: 2

      We'll see.

    4. Re:Won't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The reason Mr. Von Clownstick uses Twitter is obvious. If he talked to reporters they would ask him questions, so he doesn't do that too much. Of course he lies then as well, but if he talked to reporters as often as he tweeted, well the breath and scope of his lies would be more obvious to even the most clueless. (Okay perhaps not to the most clueless, but at least to more people.)

      As far as the 280 character count goes, well, why not? It might even be long enough for a single tweet to contradict itself.

      If the democrats do not use all of Trump's own words/tweets/etc to utterly and totally destroy him politically in 2020, then they are complete idiots. Seriously the republicans take weak sauce and make it into end of the world scandals and it works. It's unethical as hell, but it works. The democrats get handed everything they need on a silver platter and still screw it up? Seriously?

      I'm honestly amazed they won the Virginia race, but that may have been more due to Trump's efforts than then Democrats.

    5. Re:Won't matter by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      It should steady out eventually. For instance, we won't have to worry about nuclear proliferation much longer. At the rate we're going, by this time next year, Iran and Saudi Arabia will have thermonuclear weapons on ICBMs. Trump-style diplomacy at it's finest.

    6. Re:Won't matter by boudie2 · · Score: 1

      I know. Isn't it great!

    7. Re: Won't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Trump is perfectly capable to contradict himself in 140 characters.

    8. Re:Won't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your explanation of why Trump using Twitter is crediting him with too much intelligence. He likes Twitter simply because it suits his attention span. If he had to call a press conference for every announcement he made on Twitter, by the time the press had assembled he would have forgotten what he wants to talk about.

    9. Re:Won't matter by kurkosdr · · Score: 1

      Although this is not the correct place, I feel the need to say it: Unless all those career politicians start listening to the problems of the little guy (who is worried about jobs moving abroad and illegal immigrants taking whatever jobs remain, and people been given sanctuary without being vetted properly) there will be more Trumps on the horizon. Remember, the people rejected the Clintons and the Bushes. It's not a Dem vs Rep thing.

    10. Re:Won't matter by boudie2 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately what the little guy wants never mattered. We've been played like a fiddle.

    11. Re:Won't matter by Mashiki · · Score: 0

      Going by your post, I bet you also believe that Trump dumped a box of fish food into a koi pond and it was an international incident.

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    12. Re:Won't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet you also believe that Trump dumped a box of fish food into a koi pond...

      And I'll bet you don't. Idiot.

  9. So now its three incoherent words plus 200 Emoji? by ffkom · · Score: 1

    I cannot remember that Twitter was ever used for insightful communication. Now, the typical message might change from three (abbreviated) words plus a hundred repetitive Emoji to three words plus two hundred repetitive Emoji. Sounds still as useful as the communication promoted by the "Yo" app.

  10. twice as much to censor, then. by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    With having to protect us from such extremist terrorist hashtags like #DNCLeak and #PodestaEmails, one wonders how they will manage.

  11. Twitter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another twitter article from BeauHD. Get a clue dude, no one here cares about twitter.

  12. oh, my by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    I think we just reached criticality, guys. Imagine the dose of Trumptweets doubled.

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    1. Re:oh, my by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      I think we just reached criticality, guys. Imagine the dose of Trumptweets doubled.

      On the up side, Trump will now have room to express two incomplete thoughts.

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      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    2. Re:oh, my by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How about limiting it to 14 characters instead?"

      I have the best memory!
      I don't remember Papadopoulous.

  13. lol omg lol omg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #thiswilltakeawhile #thiswilltakeawhile k k

  14. "dot dot dot" by dohzer · · Score: 1

    god I hope this doesn't kill the "dot dot dot" part of The Late Show. It's my fave.

    1. Re:"dot dot dot" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First thing that crossed my mind too. Seems like we'll see it only half as often, now.

  15. 280 limit? why not 640? by thereitis · · Score: 4, Funny

    Skip the middle increments and go straight to 640 characters.

    1. Re:280 limit? why not 640? by npslider · · Score: 1

      640 Kharacters ought to be enough for anyone...

    2. Re:280 limit? why not 640? by antdude · · Score: 1

      640 characters isn't enough, Bill Gates! :P

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    3. Re:280 limit? why not 640? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      280 characters, we truely live in a age of wonders.

      640, characters, I'm pretty sure that would be impossible,

    4. Re:280 limit? why not 640? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      It's 240 because that amount can comfortably fit on a phone screen at a reasonable font size. People were just posting images of their ~240 character messages instead of actual text, which is bad for Twitter because text in images can't easily be searched.

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  16. xkcd my arse by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    Is that you, Gabe?

    2008? Really?

    --
    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    1. Re:xkcd my arse by sexconker · · Score: 2

      Something about Hognoxious, Poperazo, and MightyMartian.

      I'm sure an AC will come along and explain it to me.

    2. Re:xkcd my arse by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Something about Hognoxious, Poperazo, and MightyMartian.

      I'm sure an AC will come along and explain it to me.

      Don't sell yourself short.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    3. Re:xkcd my arse by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Do we walk into a bar, and the bartender is Creamer?

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    4. Re:xkcd my arse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to lick your own taint to understand.

  17. Because New Speak isn't very compact? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Twitter is now double plus good with double plus good message lengths.

  18. Nobody will ever need 640 characters by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    Let's hard code that in.

    Seriously, though, the SMS platform Twitter is using a Short Messaging System originally used by submarines to avoid being spotted, and it's only so big. Packet sizes do put an upper limit on the protocols, and 128 characters is more of a reference to routing overhead. 280 also fits in, but was avoided for submarines as the technology to triangulate the sender generally failed under 128.

    You can stuff a 640 character packet in a larger one, but then you have to chunk the data.

    I for one welcome our new long-winded overlords.

    sigh

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    1. Re:Nobody will ever need 640 characters by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      SMS has nothing to do with submarines. 160 characters was used because SMS was originally a GSM feature, that used the fixed size control channel messages to transmit text. 160 was what was left when you excluded headers/etc. It's 140 for Twitter instead of 160 because Twitter reserved 20 to identify the person tweeting.

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  19. The Stupid, it Burns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. well there goes Everyone's short-term memory

  20. Original Reason For the Limit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's my impression that the reason for the limit was that this utilized extra space in the packets which are sent from towers to phone and back, with "Are you there?" and "Yes, I'm here." type messages. They're used to enable phones to link to nearby towers for connecting to the phone network.

    Admittedly, sending pix (apparently quite popular) vastly exceeds this size. I don't tweet but I have on occasion sent and received text messages, which I presume is handled similarly.

  21. Yo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And here I thought "Yo" was a joke. IIRC, I saw it on Silicon Valley (the show).

  22. Time for the apps to catch up. by HermMunster · · Score: 2

    Most apps are programmed for the 140 characters. I'm pretty sure most people, for the time being, will be tweeting at the 140 characters.

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    1. Re:Time for the apps to catch up. by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      I'm sure His Orangeness has already received an update so he can double his literary wisdom.

    2. Re:Time for the apps to catch up. by iampiti · · Score: 1

      How many people use something else than the official app or website? I can't imagine they're a huge percentage of users

  23. Re:So now its three incoherent words plus 200 Emoj by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > I cannot remember that Twitter was ever used for insightful communication

    You're probably not following insightful people. There is good content out there:

    https://twitter.com/DalaiLama

  24. Hurraaaaay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now the stupid things people say will be even LONGER!

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

    *burp*

  25. Imgur by spongman · · Score: 1

    Meanwhile anyone with anything longer to say can just take a screenshot and tweet that.

    What a bunch of fucking morons.

  26. 280 or 35000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    280 for most people, 35000 for a select few.

  27. TLDR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /. post too long, didn't read.

  28. Re:So now its three incoherent words plus 200 Emoj by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

    You're following the wrong people then. There are a lot of scientists on twitter: I'd say twitter has been more useful to me professionally than linkedin or any other website aside from pubmed or google.

  29. Tweeter Email by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When is it coming out?

  30. In other news, equally important by rossz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've lost my toenail clippers.

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  31. Why? by antdude · · Score: 1

    Why not be like the limited SMSes with Twitter?

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  32. You fools! by dywolf · · Score: 2

    You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could that they didn't stop to think if you should.

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    The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
  33. ... or the Bots by Martin+S. · · Score: 1

    ... and I'm pretty sure most bots, will for the time being will be tweeting at the 140 characters.

  34. How they rolled out the database change... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ALTER TABLE tweets ALTER COLUMN text varchar(280) NOT NULL

  35. Re:So now its three incoherent words plus 200 Emoj by Ash-Fox · · Score: 1

    Please provide a list of ten insightful people to follow.

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  36. Doesn't work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't seem to work for the automatic cross-posting feature from Facebook to Twatter.

  37. Re:So now its three incoherent words plus 200 Emoj by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 1

    Phil Plait - Astronomy, Astrophysics and General science
    David Frum - Principled (ie, not a party mouthpiece) conservativism
    The Marshall Project - Criminal Justice System watchdog
    Picard Tips - Management and Life tips from the perspective of Jean-Luc Picard
    Benjamin Dixon - Principled liberalism/progressivism

    These are more specific to where I am, but there's probably a local equivalent or three where you are:
    Fred Melo, Reporter - Local beat reporter who's on top of everything
    Arif Hasan - Local football analyst with a lot of detailed knowledge

    Humerous, but often as insightful as they are funny:
    Riker Googling
    Chaucer Doth Tweet
    Bloom County

  38. I come from a time of 16 bit processing. by i286NiNJA · · Score: 1

    I am from a time of 16 bit processing my friend.
    In soviet russia rubles troll me.

  39. Trump Rocks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Best President we have ever had. I think he is up there with Lincoln and Washington. Stop drinking the haterade.

  40. Re:So now its three incoherent words plus 200 Emoj by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

    @NuclearAnthro is also very... interesting... on nukes and the north korean arms race.

    There are a bunch of biologists I follow that would be interesting if you're a biologist.

    @ASlavitt has some interesting if biased healthcare reform points.

    Green mountain, you might enjoy @swear_trek and @NoContextTrek