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Apple Plans To Start Selling Its AR Headset By 2020, Bloomberg Says (bloomberg.com)

Apple plans to have an augmented-reality headset complete by 2019, and begin selling it by 2020, Bloomberg reported on Wednesday citing multiple sources familiar with the matter. The report claims that Apple has assembled a team called "T288" with hundreds of engineers to work on an AR headset that doesn't require an iPhone to work. The team is reportedly testing their work with HTC Vive VR headsets and "a device similar to an Oculus Gear VR headset," with goal to build a fully integrated headset that includes a display and cameras powered by a custom chipset. Apple is looking into using its knowledge in designing custom silicon to create a more power-efficient chip for the headset, the report said, adding the chip could be similar to the integrated system used on the Apple Watch.

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  1. AR Headset by CRB9000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nobody needs an Assault Rifle headset. This is just wrong. The 2nd Amendment never was intended for this purpose...What?...really?...sorry, nevermind, carry on.

    1. Re:AR Headset by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Needs a 30 round magazine at least.

    2. Re:AR Headset by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait, I think you might have something here. It could monitor kill shots vs wound percentage, look for movement from previous victims, monitor news/soc media/LEO sites and pop up alerts, you could even build in night vision. Big bonus points if they can be made to look like the ones Michael Douglas wears in Falling Down.

    3. Re:AR Headset by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

      An assault rifle headset sounds really cool, but can your neck take the recoil is the real problem.

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      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    4. Re:AR Headset by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 0

      An assault rifle headset sounds really cool, but can your neck take the recoil is the real problem.

      You're not going to wear the AR on your head. The HUD will just be synced with scope on the rifle so you'll have an easier time aiming. Hopefully they'll include a feature that quickly identifies hostiles & prevents friendly fire.

      --
      Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
    5. Re:AR Headset by jcr · · Score: 1

      Thank you for not calling it a clip.

      -jcr

      --
      The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
    6. Re: AR Headset by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clip is 20 rounds or less.

    7. Re:AR Headset by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      You're not going to wear the AR on your head. The HUD will just be synced with scope on the rifle so you'll have an easier time aiming

      That sounds far more boring than twin AK-47's mounted to either side of your head like beer cozies.

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      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    8. Re:AR Headset by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I own a M1 garand you insensitive clod.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    9. Re:AR Headset by geekmux · · Score: 2

      Nobody needs an Assault Rifle headset. This is just wrong. The 2nd Amendment never was intended for this purpose...What?...really?...sorry, nevermind, carry on.

      Headset development prioritization list:

      #1 - Work without needing an iPhone

      #2 - Virtual porn

      #3 - Better virtual porn

      #4 - iPorn

      #5 - iPorn with iSteve

      #6 - iPornX

      Don't worry. The only thing users will likely be assaulting, is themselves.

    10. Re: AR Headset by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      A clip is a metal strip that holds rounds together, so they can be inserted into a magazine quickly. The magazine can be internal like a Mauser bolt action rifle, or removable like an AK-47. A few rifles like the M-1 Garand, keep the rounds in the clip inside the magazine.

    11. Re: AR Headset by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so what are you implying? That under 2nd amendment you can have a 30 round clip assault rifle, but not a 30 round magazine rifle?

    12. Re: AR Headset by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      There is no such thing as a 30 round clip assault rifle. They all have detachable magazines.

  2. So when my mom tells me to take out the garbage by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    All that I hear is "Go ahead, play your video game the rest of the night. Tonight is Friday."

    1. Re:So when my mom tells me to take out the garbage by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      All that I hear is "Go ahead, play your video game the rest of the night. Tonight is Friday."

      Yeah, but what if taking out the trash is an in-game achievement?

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      Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
    2. Re:So when my mom tells me to take out the garbage by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of "The Simpsons" Yard Work Simulator.

  3. iHead? by sqorbit · · Score: 1

    Possible name?

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    Sent from my TARDIS
    1. Re:iHead? by Luthair · · Score: 1

      iAR (stupid)

    2. Re:iHead? by Merk42 · · Score: 2

      iR (baboon)

    3. Re:iHead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      iEyes

    4. Re:iHead? by crabbz · · Score: 2

      iGlasses

    5. Re:iHead? by gtall · · Score: 1

      iClops

  4. Why not something like the gear VR? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course apple would want to go all out on this integrating everything into it so they can probably slap a $2000+ price tag on it, instead of going the simpler route with an accessory like the gear VR. Not to mention their new "notch" probably would fuck up the effect of such an accessory, just as it does for full screen video, unless you want to zoom out the video and end up with "bezels" that eat up more of the face of the phone than any other phone they have ever released.

  5. When history repeats itself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't wait to see the results of exploding batteries in this device. Maybe they can co-op with Samsung.

    1. Re:When history repeats itself... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      That is why they removed the headphone jack. That little extra space allows room for natural battery expansion and prevent explosions.

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      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    2. Re: When history repeats itself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That explanation doesn't sound very courageous at all.

  6. Re:Amazing! by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Or it could be a flop. However unlike other companies Apple at least tries to get into different markets. If they were still only making Macs like in the 1990s then Apple would be doomed. However they jumped onto the MP3 player market and the smart phone market. To keep the company current and to prevent being obsolete.

    Apple tends to do a good job at perfecting existing technology and ideas and make a gimmick toy to a successful product that is widely used. But they are not perfect. VR and AR has been problem markets. While cool not necessarily overall useful.

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    If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
  7. Re:Amazing! by jcr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Apple doesn't enter a market unless they can bring a compelling competitive advantage with them, whether it's better UI, economy of scale, etc.

    If they offer an AR device, I expect we'll see all kinds of entertainment and productivity applications for it in very short order. The latter are the most interesting to me.

    -jcr

    --
    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  8. Soon... by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 4, Funny

    AppleAR, or, the iHeadset as everyone will call it, will perhaps be popular, but... before long they'll come out with a new version that won't have lenses. You'll have to buy iLenses separately, and the lenses will, for some reason, require charging, and the charger will be separate and require charging itself, and the charger for THAT will only work with a proprietary Apple connector...

    So glad I've decided to jump off the iApple iTrain now, and not be sucked into buying even more overpriced stuff I don't need.

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    Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
    1. Re:Soon... by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      You'd be better off if you jumped in front of a real train instead of off a metaphorical one.

    2. Re:Soon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also.. Apple will go out of its way to ensure that THEIR headseet is severly limited compared to the competition... and it will at the very least, only be able to show Apple approved content in an Apple only environment setup

    3. Re:Soon... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the ghost of stevie jobs appeared to me last night and told me he needed your help in hell so get cracking. Your Messiah has called you; your one of the chosen ones!

  9. Hard to see an inconvenient wearable succeeding by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

    You'd have to be really, really motivated. A watch, a walkman/iPod, fitness trackers to a degree... anything else? Plus most of those were not that inconvenient.

    1. Re:Hard to see an inconvenient wearable succeeding by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      I'm actually thinking of replacing my computer displays (work not gaming) with the Meta 2 AR headset. Saves a lot of desk real estate and it's 100% private. And really, really cool.

      Still, there remains a tiny bit of motion detection lag, so I'm not sold just yet.

    2. Re:Hard to see an inconvenient wearable succeeding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one has ever gotten it right. Had this not been the case, these things would have been everywhere long ago. Apple appears already to be changing what ever it is that no one is getting right, changing the product to something else they may get right. I am anxious to see the result of their efforts. But no one yet in in the consumer or pro market has really nailed the head-mounted display (that I see is now called the AR headset), or has understood what it takes to get VR right, since the first HMD or VR headsets were introduced decades ago. Unacceptable. Hope Apple nails it. We'll see.

  10. iEye by decipher_saint · · Score: 3, Funny

    iEye (Captain!)

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    crazy dynamite monkey
  11. Accounts Receivables? by DogDude · · Score: 0

    Apple is going to start selling an accounts receivable headset? I don't even understand that. Is it just a way for "customers" to send money to Apple even faster than they already do?

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    I don't respond to AC's.
    1. Re: Accounts Receivables? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your attempt at humor is terrible and you should kindly off yourself.

  12. just in time by bobmajdakjr · · Score: 1

    just in time for the election so cnn can replace all their touch sceens and kinects

  13. already have it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    well, except for the target identification... not sure you can automate that. will be nice to see the price come down though once some competition gets into the market.

    https://www.tracking-point.com/shotglass/

  14. Re: Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just like we saw all kinds of applications for the stupid useless iwatch.

  15. Re: Amazing! by jcr · · Score: 0

    The Apple Watch is saving lives, sparky. What have you done for your fellow man lately?

    -jcr

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    The only title of honor that a tyrant can grant is "Enemy of the State."
  16. a little late to the party? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with vive being available right now it seems like available in 2 years is about 2 years too late.

    I guess you do what you have to do in order to stay relevant.

    on the upside, maybe it means that they will actually upgrade their desktop hardware in order to run their headset. custom chips are great but you still need raw horsepower to do all the calculations involved in display relative to position, especially when you use some sort of marking system to track headset orientation (vive uses stereoscopic cameras and IR leds on the headset)

    1. Re:a little late to the party? by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      with vive being available right now it seems like available in 2 years is about 2 years too late.

      I guess you do what you have to do in order to stay relevant.

      on the upside, maybe it means that they will actually upgrade their desktop hardware in order to run their headset. custom chips are great but you still need raw horsepower to do all the calculations involved in display relative to position, especially when you use some sort of marking system to track headset orientation (vive uses stereoscopic cameras and IR leds on the headset)

      This is AR, not VR.

      Huge computational difference.

      Look what they are already able to do with iPhone hardware and ARKit. Not very far from this to full stereoscopic output.

      http://www.madewitharkit.com/

      -Doug

  17. Re: Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're hilarious.

  18. Re: Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As any heart rate monitoring device can do. Your shilling is pathetic.

  19. Re: Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What have they done to save lives?

  20. There is no question of apple following this trend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    its a matter of how many patents will they steal doing it?

  21. A lot can happen in 2+ years. by bobm · · Score: 2

    Apple, who was also building a TV set and then they were going to build an electric car (but for some reason can't make Car Play work without being plugged in) is going to do AR. I'm pretty sure by 2020 something else will be out there to displace this.

    I've given up trying to care what Apple won't do. I used to get my hopes up for some cool tech but now it's just a waste of time to care.

    I can't even image what they are going to wreck on the next OS release.

  22. Reality distortion field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If they had any sense of humor they would call it RDF, aka the Reality Distortion Field.

  23. 2020? But I want it NOW! by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

    Make it so we can have virtual waifus and you've already sold millions of units in advance.

    Unfortunately, being Apple, there's not going to be an optional hentai mode.

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    #DeleteFacebook
  24. Augmented Reality by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can it make my wife hot?

    1. Re:Augmented Reality by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      That would require VR.

  25. ~Price? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be nice to know how much extra money I will have in 2020 when this is a useless tech bauble I don't buy because it sounded way better when it was just a sci-fi concept. If they tell me know, I can invest the money for the meantime and come out that much further ahead!

  26. I'm no Apple fanboy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm no Apple fanboy but I suspect they will ship something in 2020 where as Magic Leap will ship another confusing video of how awesome they are in 2020.

  27. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Exactly. The Apple Car revolutionized transportation. Just look around. We are all driving Apple cars now.

  28. Re: Hard to see an inconvenient wearable succeedin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too many people are being hit by cars or falling while staring at their phones and walking, driving, biking, etc. plus it is causing neck injury. By the same token, head worn HUD units inherently distract people while also reducing their selectively evolved attractiveness. The future UI will be verbal and occasionally projection based.

  29. GnR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Loaded like a hype train
    Flyin like an airplane
    Feelin like a space brain
    One more time tonight

  30. Re: Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wait until the Apple iWheel is released, it will revolutionize the wheel and iCar. I can see it now: all white, Bluetooth enabled, and no valve stem to save more space for iAir, a special blend of nitrogen far superior to air. Don't worry, they will have special adapters to convert air into iAir though you'll still need to visit a certified Apple Genius to add it. It'll show so much courage.