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Ask Slashdot: How Many Books Do You Read a Month?

joshtops writes: Hi fellow readers. I wanted to ask you how many books do you read in a month on average? Also wanted to understand if that number has changed over the last five years. Also, what are you reading this month?

173 comments

  1. /. polls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This seems to have gotten misplaced, /. polls are on the right.

    1. Re:/. polls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why was this modded down? It's exactly what I was going to say. This would clearly make a better poll than a story. We can discuss poll results on this site too.

  2. Total, or non-IT related? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My number for the former is respectable, probably 6-8. The latter? Not so much.

    1. Re:Total, or non-IT related? by sycodon · · Score: 1

      Do Slashdot screeds/rants count as a book?

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    2. Re:Total, or non-IT related? by farrellj · · Score: 1

      I read anywhere between 10-15 fiction, usually SF or Fantasy books a month. Add to that the occasional non-fiction book. I find that I don't read IT books anymore, I get most of my education these days off the web, either howtos or videos. The only books I would buy, IT wise, are reference books, and many of those have funny animal illustrations on them. :-)

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  3. Books worth of reading? by HermMunster · · Score: 2

    I read a lot. I read on a large number of topics. I'm constantly reading. I never stop, in a practical sense.

    I do read books. I'm now reading The Smear by Sharyl Attiksson. I just don't have the time to dedicate to reading a set or large number of books every month.

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    1. Re:Books worth of reading? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >I read a lot. I read on a large number of topics. I'm constantly reading. I never stop, in a practical sense.

      Same, except I don't read books. I read articles, blog posts, news, graze parts of technical books. I've tried many times to read a book for fun as an adult but nothing holds my interest.

    2. Re:Books worth of reading? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Exactly. I am constantly reading, but books are for jails, prisons, and exploiting college students.

    3. Re:Books worth of reading? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I read the DNC talking points daily, then come here to repeat them.

      I still have not gotten around to reading the Obamacare bill.

    4. Re:Books worth of reading? by computational+super · · Score: 1

      I read a lot of blog posts and things for entertainment, but for actual education I actually prefer book books. I read a lot of technical books; almost anything O'Reilly or Addison Wesley. I still haven't found that the content online is as well put together as the dead tree equivalents.

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    5. Re:Books worth of reading? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have you read the Affordable Care Act?

    6. Re:Books worth of reading? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Maybe 5-10 week. Just got recommendation from work colleague about "Fast Metabolism" books by Pomroy; reading 3 of those. For fiction authors currently active, Jim Butcher for F/SF, Lee Child for action, Barbara Ehrenreich for social observations, Mary Roach for science, Jarred Diamond for anthropology.

      Strand reproductions of Sherlock Holmes are great but a large number of other Arthur Conan Doyle stories are better. As a teen reading Heinlein, I had no idea how heretical his ideas were, which somewhat warped my youthful social interactions. I'm reading lots of tech papers about Backup/DR, and block & NAS storage. Grisham tells good tales, Feynman brilliantly makes science comfortable, and I've enjoyed many biographies (especially about US presidents).

      Now that I think about it, the degree to which I enjoy books is largely based on how well they match my desired level of challenge or outside interest of the moment. For example:
          My father loves Clive Cussler because he was an ocean sailor.
          Robert B. Parker enjoyable for me because of boxing, food, and literature.
          Travis McGee (J.D. MacDonald) enlivens Florida, and wonderful intro to modern detectives.
          E.A. Poe is delightfully macabre.
          John Rain (B. Eisler) is deadly but thoughtful.
          If you need more of an intellectual challenge, something from Henry James, M. Proust, or Dostoyevski should suffice.
          If you want a societal value challenge, Upton Sinclair or

      N. Stephenson is astonishing, of course. Might even try HPMOR (Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality).

      If I were going to recommend something for everyone to read, we all need to work on solving today's most important societal issues; so perhaps something about how to provide healthcare in USA, or preserving the quality of air & water (New Delhi today), or other critical situations. Now I need to find some titles, I guess :-)

    7. Re:Books worth of reading? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I spend probably 6 hours a day reading, and I'm not counting slashdot or news/current events.

      In the past year I think I read 2 "books," so a per-month number wouldn't have meaning. I read from books frequently. 10 years ago, my answer would have been maybe 10 per month.

      Less information is hidden inside expensive books now, there has been a massive democratization of knowledge. Still incomplete, but ongoing! I don't have to buy 6 big books and read through them to find out if they explain what I want to know, I can just learn all the same information on a step-by-step basis based on the questions that I had at the end of the previous step.

    8. Re:Books worth of reading? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Seriously? or flame bait? Because that's a VERY dim view

  4. Book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's a book? I haven't seen one of those dinosaurs in years.

    1. Re:Book? by butchersong · · Score: 1

      I used to read voraciously. I can remember as a teenager a couple times running out of books at night, panicking and just compulsively going over ingredient labels in the pantry.. it may have been a bit of a problem. Anyway, I kept reading into my 20s but these days other than audible and new books in a few fiction series I started reading years ago I don't really read for pleasure at all. I could probably count the number of books on one hand and I used to go through a book every day or two. Mostly, I spend time online now or listen to podcasts or audible.

    2. Re:Book? by ISoldat53 · · Score: 1

      15 to 20

    3. Re:Book? by RevDisk · · Score: 1

      Which podcasts?

      Hardcore History unfortunately ruined podcasts for me because it was the first one I listened to. And so far, nothing else compares within several standard deviations. Stuff You Should Know, Radiolab, Freakonomics, 99% Invisible, Stuff You Missed in History and Tested are the bulk of the rest.

    4. Re:Book? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      panicking and just compulsively going over ingredient labels in the pantry

      I don't think I ever panicked over it, but gosh yes, I remember those nights at 3am sitting on the kitchen floor reading soup labels... "what am I doing here? What time is it? Was I going to make a snack? Oh yeah, I'm out of books!"

      I hate podcasts, but maybe 15% of my reading got replaced with videos.

    5. Re:Book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try this one.

  5. None. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haven't read a book since I was in my teens. I'm now 40.

    I spend all day reading the internet, reading stories online.

    1. Re: None. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't read a book for decades. I read articles, technical information, scientific papers, etc. daily. I've never understood the appeal of reading books, especially in paper form.

    2. Re:None. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Same for me. And as we're getting older we start to forget things, so in a way we can say we're currently reading "minus 0.2 book per month".

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    3. Re: None. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like source code that renders a virtual reality inside your head. The immersion can be very compelling. The rendering engine is more complex and powerful than any computer hardware likely to exist for a long, long time.

  6. Science Fiction by mi · · Score: 1

    Having carelessly gone through the treasure-trove of writings by Asimov, Lem, and Strugatsky brothers in my youth, I was on a dry-spell for some time until I discovered Heinlein — whose hard anti-Socialist (and anti-Soviet in particular) stance made him a virtual unknown on the rusty side of the iron curtain, when I was growing up. But that supply drained quickly as well...

    Stephenson is the only modern author so far, who, in my opinion, can match. But he can only write so much and his diversions into the "alternative history" genre are annoying.

    With shortage of good science of fiction, I've found delight in re-reading the books by Mark Twain, Jack London, O'Henry, Dreiser, which I enjoyed in Russian, in their original language, now that I can read it comfortably.

    How much do I read? About 2-3 hours a day — while in transit to and from work and before sleep...

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    1. Re:Science Fiction by elzurawka · · Score: 1

      I am really enjoying Asimov and Heinlein. Can you recommend a good book to start Stephenson ? Never heard of him.

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    2. Re:Science Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you haven't read it, I highly recommend The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester. Also, Lathe of Heaven by Ursula Le Guin. Though those 2 books will not last you long.

    3. Re:Science Fiction by elzurawka · · Score: 1

      Is that Neal Stephenson? If so i already have Crypto-nomicon on my hold list in overdrive :) Looking forward to it

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    4. Re:Science Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The best Stephenson is
      Snow Crash

      best by far for starters.

      If you want massive, go Cryptnomicon, also very good.

    5. Re:Science Fiction by rjune · · Score: 1

      Heinlein - I don't know how many times a teacher confiscated a Heinlein book because I was reading it during class time. I did learn that telling the teacher that you could read your book and follow their lesson was not appreciated. Oh, to be able to read for fun on a consistent basis. I have two books from the Last Fleet: Beyond the Frontier that I haven't had time to read. If you like hard SF or military SF check out http://www.jack-campbell.com/

    6. Re:Science Fiction by mi · · Score: 1

      The already recommended "Snow Crash" is quite awesome. But my new favorite is "Anathem"...

      His "Seven Eves" was a disappointment, if you still have unread Asimov or Heinlein, don't bother.

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    7. Re:Science Fiction by mi · · Score: 1

      Is that Neal Stephenson?

      Well, Robert Louis was a great writer (and poet) too, but his last name is spelled with a "v" instead of "ph".

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    8. Re:Science Fiction by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Heinlein - I don't know how many times a teacher confiscated a Heinlein book because I was reading it during class time. I did learn that telling the teacher that you could read your book and follow their lesson was not appreciated. Oh, to be able to read for fun on a consistent basis. I have two books from the Last Fleet: Beyond the Frontier that I haven't had time to read. If you like hard SF or military SF check out http://www.jack-campbell.com/

      I learned very early on to put the school book in my lap and the book I was actually reading behind that book. I only did it when the teacher was at the front of the class lecturing.

      And love Campbell. Read all of The Lost Fleet, Beyond the Frontier through Invincible, and The Lost Stars through Perilous Shield. I'm sure I'll get an Amazon gift card for Christmas, will probably use it to buy the rest of the Beyond the Frontier ebooks. And for military scifi dont forget the Old Man's War trilogy (much softer than Campbell though) and the Forever War (about as depressing as Lost Fleet-not from the massive loss of life like in Lost Fleet, although that's there too, but rather from how absolutely unnecessary the whole thing was, which is understandable considering the author fought in Vietnam). Armour is ok too, but could have used more focusing on the war itself as opposed to the "second" story.

      I think that's why I like Campbell so much: he focuses on the combat and politics behind the combat. I want more good, hard scifi war stories.

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    9. Re:Science Fiction by war4peace · · Score: 1

      I can relate on many counts (being on the wrong side of the Iron Courtain, discovering new authors after it has fallen, etc).
      Recently I downloaded a torrent called "The Book Case" which contains over 15K books in electronic format. of course, I cherry pick, currently at letter G (Gerard Klein to be more precise) and going. Many books I have re-read, some more than 10 times (!). I also discovered excellent authors I had never heard of, to my shame, such as China Mieville and Dan Simmons.
      Still reading as much as I can, between 1h and 2h daily, usually while commuting or having a meal. I also realized that my dreams are better and more vivid if I read books right before going to sleep.

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    10. Re:Science Fiction by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      Harry Turtledove has some good stuff that might be up your alley. You also might like Margaret Atwood.

    11. Re:Science Fiction by trewornan · · Score: 1

      You might like Vernor Vinge.

    12. Re:Science Fiction by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Harry Turtledove has some good stuff that might be up your alley. You also might like Margaret Atwood.

      As a history buff I really enjoyed the Southern Victory series. Only got through Blood and Iron (because there's so many books and I'm cheap) but they're all really good reads. And something tells me Jake Featherston would have done very well in today's political climate....

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    13. Re:Science Fiction by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      You basically "have to" read Snow Crash if you read sci-fi, it is the modern classic that coined the word "avatar" as used on the internet. So start there even if it isn't his best book.

      If you like it, at least half of his books are as good. The other half might be less accessible, so YMMV.

      If you do really like it, don't leave out Interface even though it has a co-author who mostly wrote it, because it is really funny given various current events in the world right now. It wasn't written as a comedy.

      The only warnings about Stephenson are: Anathem is a cross between sci-fi and philosophy. It is weird. Don't read that first; you'll love it or hate it without regard to how you felt about his other books. The other warning is, read Cryptonomicon before reading The Baroque Cycle they're not exactly a series but they're connected in a certain way.

    14. Re:Science Fiction by mi · · Score: 1

      I want more good, hard scifi war stories.

      David Drake then. I'm reading him right now. Not Azimov's caliber by far, but if you want war, he delivers — a Vietnam veteran, he knows it first hand. The "Hammer's Slammers" series is just combat. Go for Reaches to expand to other things. Reportedly, the author is a history buff, many of his stories recast the historical episodes from humanity's past in a "spaceship" era.

      The Leutenant Leary line is is a bit repetitive — and much too implausible... You enjoy it while you read it, but you can't remember, how many you've read, when you are done...

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      In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
    15. Re:Science Fiction by NikeHerc · · Score: 1

      ... if you still have unread Asimov or Heinlein, don't bother.

      I never cared for Asimov, but the poster's advice on skipping Heinlein is extremely poor advice.

      In his early days, Heinlein wrote some of the best science fiction ever published. IMHO "Puppet Masters" and "The Day After Tomorrow" have never been equaled.

      You should also read his "Stranger in a Strange Land" and "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress," both classics.

      Heinlein got weird in his old age and, to me, his work devolved, but he nevertheless created some interesting scifi toward the end of his life.

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    16. Re:Science Fiction by mi · · Score: 1

      but the poster's advice on skipping Heinlein is extremely poor advice.

      Which poster are you referring to? No one in this thread has said anything negative about Heinlein, and quite a few — myself included — have praised him.

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    17. Re:Science Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he misunderstood you to mean don't bother with Asimov and Heinlein, instead of don't bother with Seven Eyes.

    18. Re:Science Fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dang it, Seven Eves, not Seven Eyes. Dam autocorrect...

  7. Mr Plinkett said it best by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmw...

    "...Point is, I'm still not sure what the [Trade Federation] ships were there to do. And don't any of you f[beep]gots tell me it was explained more in the novelization or some Star Wars BOOK! What matters is the MOVIES! I ain't never read one them Star Wars books, or any books in general for that matter, and I ain't about to start. Don't talk about them stupid video games, or novels, comic books or any of that fucking crap. I seen enough of that shit."

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    1. Re:Mr Plinkett said it best by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Trade Federations are there to extract payments that they declared some party to owe, or to enforce an agreement that some party neglected to sign but will have signed before the Trade Federation leaves orbit.

      This is not a shortcoming of the movies, or something learned from Star Wars "books." Don't read that shit, it is drivel. But if you read golden age science fiction, then you instantly understand who the Trade Federation is, and what they want. They're any monopoly that the rule of law doesn't touch; they're the Rockefellers, the East India Trade Companies, the Ubers.

  8. Context matters by burtosis · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm at around 90 or so each month right now. The kids love em and it only takes a few minutes for each one.

    1. Re:Context matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, my problem is I read several books every night, but if I'm counting unique titles in a month it is only single digits.

    2. Re:Context matters by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

      Damn, you're good!!!!! I usually read between 5 to 7 per week, but I've been slacking off lately. Last two books read were (non-fiction), Big Money, which was quite mediocre and one would be much better served to read Jane Mayer's outstanding book, Dark Money, and (fiction), The Cuban Affair by Nelson DeMille and Michael Connelly's Two Kinds of Truth, both highly recommended.

    3. Re:Context matters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think there were months where I read "Snug House, Bug House" 90 times by itself.

      Kids books are great. As they grow up, there's a ton of fun stuff. I would have missed out on a lot of very easy, very light, and yet very fun reading if I didn't have my daughter.

  9. Not too many... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I generally don't read a lot of books, but I do a lot of reading online. There's still a lot of information that can be conveyed with the written word, but it's now easier to get a lot of information online. That said, right now I'm reading The Power of Broke by Daymond John.

  10. Overdrive by elzurawka · · Score: 2

    Switches over to Audiobooks on Overdrive last spring. i'm not 'reading' anywhere from 5-10 books a month. Depends on the length, some books at 8-10 hours, others are 30+. listening at 1.4x i can get through an 8 hour book in a day.

    Right now i have finished the "Robots" series by Isaac Asimov, and now on book 2 of the Foundation series.

    Overdrive really changed my ability to get through books, i probably read more now in a month the i used to in a year. I highly recommend it to anyone who's local library is a member. The best part is that is completely free.

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    1. Re:Overdrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I listened to part of Asimov's "Robots" series (using Audible, not Overdrive), but I couldn't find an audiobook version of Robots and Empire. Were you able to listen to it?

    2. Re:Overdrive by Mandrel · · Score: 1

      I'm not a fan of the phrase "get through" when talking about reading or listening to books. It conveys the importance of throughput over digestion.

      I usually read slowly, often a paragraph or a sentence at a time, to really think about what's being said and how's it's being said, and to revel in powerful moments. (I often joke to myself that it takes me longer to read a book than it took to write.) Often, when read, I toss a book around in my mind for some months, reading online discussion, and writing my own review, before starting another.

    3. Re: Overdrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I found it online, for free. I couldn't find a legitimate source

    4. Re:Overdrive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also a big fan of Overdrive. It is the killer app, that caused me to get a smart phone.

      I'm currently reading the Dresden files, Covert 1, and Gentleman Bastards.

  11. I kinda stopped reading by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    I liked sci-fi, but couldn't find any books full of pointless and gratuitous sex and violence. I'm no prude but about the fourth time I picked up a space opera and the entire thing came to a halt for a 3 page torture scene or a 5 page sex scene I got tired of it. If I wanted naughty bits there's the internet and I could do without detailed descriptions of horrific pain in my life. I assume they're doing it because they're trying to do something you can't do in film. But it's still annoying as heck. What I want is more stuff like what Greg Egan writes and less Peter Watts (to be fair to Peter, you know what your getting into).

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    1. Re:I kinda stopped reading by elzurawka · · Score: 1

      They are a bit dated, but have you read any Asimov or Heinlein? I haven't come across things like that in any of the books i have read thus far.

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    2. Re:I kinda stopped reading by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      As a teenager, I read all of Asimov's sci-fi, his Azazel stories, and a lot of his science essays for the lay person. You know what? I have no idea why I loved his sci-fi so much, because on attempts to revisit it as an adult I find his prose so boring it's unreadable and I can't enjoy the underlying plot. Azazel's still good, though. Actually, I take (some of) that back... the stuff he wrote for the juvenile market as Paul French still reads well for the era.

      Heinlein, on the other hand... great stuff, but you do have to tune out a lot of his sex fantasies that seem to make his way into a lot of his longer works.

    3. Re:I kinda stopped reading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. I just read the Foundation books again recently. Probably at least my 5th read of them and I still find them as enjoyable as I did 30 years ago.

      Same with Heinlein. They may be a bit dated technology-wise, and some of the mores seem a little old-fashioned in his earlier books. In his later books, when he was less censored by the publishers, tend to have a bunch more sex content, but none of it ever strays to the point of erotica.

    4. Re:I kinda stopped reading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, you'd there would be a market for contemporary SF without the gratuitous/graphic sex and violence. Not everyone likes that kind of stuff. Maybe that's why there's an adult market for YA SF (Hunger Games, etc) come to think of it.

      While I share at least some of your dislike, I've really enjoyed most of the Alastair Reynolds books I've read. Violence there is, but not much (on-stage) sex, and little of it feels gratuitous to me. House of Suns, Revelation Space and Century Rain are his three best IMO.

      To answer the "Ask Slashdot" question: I read one or two books a week, normally SF or spy thrillers if we're talking fiction. Most recently I've been re-reading LeCarre's Smiley books, and also (for sheer escapism/nostalgia) EC Tubb's Dumarest of Terra series. For non-fiction these days I'm focussing on the history of IT. I definitely don't read as much as I used to,I suspect that may be related to having a job and a family.

    5. Re:I kinda stopped reading by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not to self-promote... well, actually, forget that, YES to self-promote, but my novel - Defenders of Shadow and Light: Ghost Thief - has no gratuitous sex or violence. There's actually no sex, but decent amounts of violence. I read it to my then-9 year old son as I was writing it. I'm working on the sequel now.

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    6. Re:I kinda stopped reading by dbwells · · Score: 1

      I liked sci-fi, but couldn't find any books full of pointless and gratuitous sex and violence.

      Might be missing a word in that sentence ;)

    7. Re:I kinda stopped reading by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Big into both of them, also Phillip K. Dick.

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    8. Re:I kinda stopped reading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I moved from scifi to fantasy for much the same reason. Scifi started taking itself way too seriously and self-interpretted that as "more grit and stuff that is unpleasant to read, less out there what-if plotlines and fun".

      Beware authors trying to be "gritty", "edgy", "real" or similar.

  12. depends.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read somewhere between 1-6 books a month depending on available time, energy and length of the book..

    With reading i'm actually referring to listening to audio-books.. It makes it a lot easier to take in information while being out walking and such.

  13. I'm a member of the no-Books of the Month club by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm only allowed one.

  14. 500 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the books are very short

  15. some recommended reading by chiaroscuro03 · · Score: 1

    It's good to just pick up a book that may not necessarily be related to your daily work or life. I hope you all find time to read one of these books:

    The Arm: Inside the Billion-Dollar Mystery of the Most Valuable Commodity in Sports, Jeff Passan (2016)

    For a Song and a Hundred Songs: A Poet's Journey Through a Chinese Prison, Liao Yiwu, translated from the Chinese by Wenguang Huang (2013)

    Start-up Nation: The Story of Israel's Economic Miracle, Dan Senor and Saul Singer (2009)

    Sowbelly: The Obsessive Quest for the World-Record Largemouth Bass, Monte Burke (2006)

  16. Peter Watts-Yup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yup, I am reading Blindsight now. So far so good.

    Also Gary Kasparov's new book, Deep Thinking: Where machine intelligence ends, human creativity begins

    As well as two books on the reformation (500th anniversary of Martin Luther)
    Total, probably 5 books on the agenda right now.

  17. Audiobooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like a few others here mention, I have migrated to audiobooks as of late. My commute to work is between 25-35 minutes each way, and I spend the entire time most days listening to my latest book. Actually, I've become so accustomed to doing this that I feel anxious when I _don't_ listen to something while driving, as I tend to feel that just listening to the radio or music is somewhat a waste of time. I do really enjoy music, and I listen heavily at other times, but I can do so without effort at anytime of my life; reading a book is a very time-consuming process that requires you to be relatively idle, while music has no such limitation.

    At any rate, I wholly recommend audiobooks for those who were once readers that find themselves with less time for one reason or another. I tend to work about 11-12 hours each day, which leaves just a few hours per night once I get home before getting some sleep. Audiobooks work very nicely into my schedule. I am currently listening to the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, but my last book was East of Eden by John Steinbeck.

    1. Re:Audiobooks by elzurawka · · Score: 1

      For anyone looking to try audiobooks, check if your local library is part of the Overdrive (or other) system, which gives you access to a large library for free.

      I like audio books for all the tedious day to day tasks. I can listen while driving, commuting, doing dishes, cleaning the house, doing laundry. Basically anything where i dont need to listen to someone else speak or concentrate hard i can listen to book. Makes menial tasks much easier to get through for me.

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    2. Re:Audiobooks by gnick · · Score: 1

      ...music is somewhat a waste of time. I do really enjoy music...

      I consider occasionally enjoying myself a good use of time. If you need to justify it, recognize that you're more productive when you're generally in a positive state of mind and that making time for leisure helps that.

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    3. Re:Audiobooks by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      I prefer to read e-books. I can read when I have time, and swap to letting fbreader read to me when I'm driving or working out.

  18. Here's a more relavant question for Slashdot... by bogaboga · · Score: 0

    Why have I had to restart all the smartphones I have possessed if I leave the basement (with them), and would like to use the GPS?

    The GPS application always complains of no internet access, even when it's on. And these have been "brand name" devices.

    1. Re:Here's a more relavant question for Slashdot... by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Because you don't read enough books. That's your punishment.

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      ...gis sdrawkcab (usually not responding to ACs; don't bother posting as AC)
  19. Books by Bigbutt · · Score: 1

    Over the past month or so, I've finished 8 sci-fi type books, all new ones vs picking up one I've read before. I also finished the latest hardback Walking Dead book (14) and read Watchmen again.

    Most of the IT type books are references where I'm reading a chapter to work on something. A couple of the video courses are in process as well. I have Safari Online so my selections there are AWS Operations (video), Infrastructure as Code, JSON at Work, Ansible Up and Running, GIT Essentials (video), Jump Start GIT, Cloud Foundry the Definitive Guide, and Ansible Configuration Management.

    But none of the books are finished or even anticipated to be finished as I'm figuring out something related to work or personal projects.

    [John]

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    Shit better not happen!
  20. no reading at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont read at all, so zero.

  21. Read none, Listen too 3-4. by BrookHarty · · Score: 1

    With work and side projects, in my downtime, its some tv and games. (orville,scif-fi shows, world of tanks). So that leaves my commutes and headphones at work. Also I have a large drive every 2 months, so I finish an audio book right there.

    Mostly politics and hard sci-fi audiobooks and podcasts. Just finished Scott Adams older book and picked up his new one. Right now in the middle of "Forbidden Thoughts" which is very interesting hugo style collection of sci-fi short.

  22. Ready Player One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just finished "Ready Player One" by Ernest Cline, because I almost always read the book before seeing the movie. It was good, and I'd recommend it as a fun time. I hope the movie is just as fine.

    I read about 4 books a month, depending on the volume and intensity of work. I'd much rather read a book than watch TV.

    1. Re:Ready Player One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting. I also just finished Ready Player One and thought it was terrible. Full of exposition instead of actual plot, the detailed nostalgia (explaining most references in depth) was pointless to someone who lived through and remembers most of this stuff and would probably just be crushingly dull to anyone who doesn't. The plot, such as it was, was a sub-par, Young Adult mashup of Dahl's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory combined with the Fred Savage film from the 80s, The Wizard, with a side helping of Jobs/Wozniak fanboyism.

      I suspect that the film will be very different to the book. Hopefully, anyway.

  23. Variable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Usually one or two. I was an avid reader growing up. My family had a rule growing up, "Only as many books from the library a week as you can carry in one trip", which we then circumvented using baskets. I went through a bit of a dry spell for a while after that. Then I discovered Overdrive, putting the library in my pocket. I was pretty skeptical on digital books, and still believe they'll never replace digital, but on the flip side I now have an appreciation for digital books and their strengths and recognize that there are some ways an analog book will never be able to replace digital. They're just different.

    Books I've read in the last five years (The highlights) -

    * The Discworld series. - I feel a bit remiss in not doing this earlier in my life
    * Authentic Happiness - Life skills here. Who doesn't want to be happy?
    * The Million Dollar Real Estate Agent - Actually a lot of very valuable business and life skills information available here
    * Business Analyst Body of Knowledge (BABOK) guide - Continuing to grow my career, pursuing CBAP Certification
    * Watermark's Guide to the CBAP Certification Process - See previous entry. This is taking a lot of my time right now

    A wise man once told me your value is in what's between your ears. Reading a book a month is a personal goal.

  24. Bring back book reviews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know you're trolling and you're not actually msmash, but this would be an opportunity to revive something Slashdot used to do. Users were able to submit book reviews to the editors, and if the reviews were useful enough, the editors would post many of them as stories. You can find many of the old stores listed at https://slashdot.org/archive.pl?op=sections&keyword=bookreview. Periodically posting stories like this is sometimes interesting to see what other users are reading, but how about bringing back book reviews?

    1. Re:Bring back book reviews by msmash+(Top+Editor) · · Score: 1

      Nope

    2. Re: Bring back book reviews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see the editor impersonation going on. I'm really surprised I haven't seen any whipslash parody accounts.

  25. It's decreased a bit in recent years because I have a more interesting but demanding job, but not a huge amount. 90% of my reading is done in the gym, the other when i'm waiting on a kid to get out of some kid activity or my wife to be done shopping.

    0% of my books are physical, that's far too impractical for me.

    1. Re:4-5 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey Poindexter: go to the gym to lift weights, not read sci-fi novels.

  26. Books'... by HalAtWork · · Score: 2

    ...worth of forum posts surely?

  27. I only read C.D. Reimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    His amazing short stories and lyrical poetry help me a lot to escape my mundane life. His latest book's publication date has been pushed back to January 2018, I can't wait!

    In the meantime I ordered a case of his signature Pumpkin Spice farts in a jar, Autumn Edition. Before they caught him!

  28. Short Attention Span by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to read a lot. I was even an early adopter of e-book readers. Now, I just read magazine articles, either in print, or online. I don't seem to have the attention span for longer things anymore, including movies. I don't think that it's age-related. It's more a function of too many things in today's world that demand your time, and you feel guilty devoting too much time to just one thing.

  29. am I the only one? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    0. Last time I read a book from cover to cover was college.

    1. Re:am I the only one? by computational+super · · Score: 1

      I should have read a book cover to cover when I was college...

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      Proud neuron in the Slashdot hivemind since 2002.
  30. None by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They didn't teach me letters while I was in the state school.

    1. Re:None by tigersha · · Score: 1

      You did seem to manage to write using these letter things on this website though. As for reading the question, I am not even going to ask!

      --
      The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism
  31. Well there is read read and "read"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read about 5-10 books for pleasure each month. That has gone up and down over time mostly based on what books are interesting. I think shorter books are more fashionable these day so I read more books but longer books are typically what I read so when something new comes out I might read fewer books. Also not all fiction has the fully developed plots of other works of fiction so some books take two or three evenings to read and others can take the whole month.

    I also read for work/improve skills... I don't think I have ever "read" books. I skim and read chapters important to me. I also read more papers and increasingly blog posts than I did 10yrs ago (about the same as 5yrs ago), as they are more in depth and useful than many books on some subjects.

  32. Just rearranged my home office/den to encourage it by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    I just rearranged my home office/den to encourage reading books (vs. online articles mostly). I swapped out the couch (on which I had a tendency to flop) and added two recliners with readers (so my wife or a kid would join me). I also rerouted some speakers to provide better sound to the whole room.

    With that in place, I'm reading about 3 books at a time now, typically one physical book I've read before, one new physical book, and one often from a PDF (I especially like to read political books like Shattered or Hacked online but don't see a reason to pay for them).

  33. History of Silicon Valley by boudie2 · · Score: 1

    Bear - The Life and Times of Augustus Owsley Stanley III by Robert Greenfield.
    Highly recommended!

  34. Not as much as I'd like to by Pollux · · Score: 1

    In May this year, I made a lifestyle change, and I now exercise 30 minutes every morning M-F 6am. While that was my "positive growth" change I made, I find I do read less now than before.

    Not that I was ever an avid reader in the past, but I averaged two books a year. Now it's been two years since I last completed a book.

    The last three books I recall reading are:

    Freakonomics
    The Battle for the Soul of Capitalism
    Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

  35. Books? TL;DR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it doesn't all fit on one screen, I lose interest.

  36. Child by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    None, I have a child

  37. 3 to 6 Sci-Fi and Fantasy per month by bobharris · · Score: 1

    3 to 6 Sci-Fi and Fantasy per month, depending on available time, size of book, and if I "Just cannot put it down" kind of book. No, my reading habits have not really changed since the 7th grade when I discovered Robert A. Heinlein, and "The Red Planet" (50+ years of reading)

  38. 4-5 books per month by kaur · · Score: 1

    I read a lot while travelling - on planes and so on.
    I borrow paper books from a next-door library.

    Currently reading: "Hunting Eichmann"
    https://www.goodreads.com/book...

    The last book finished: "We Are All Completely Beside Ourselves"
    https://www.goodreads.com/book...

  39. less than 1 per month by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    i am a binge reader, i might find a topic that really grabs my interest and i will read everything i can about it, or an author i like and i will read as many books as i can that they have and when that is over i am done reading for a while, until the next urge to read something pops up,

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    Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
    1. Re:less than 1 per month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm less than 1 a month too. Probably 1 every other month - 1 hr a day is about I I have time for.

      I listen to about 3-4 a month, usually while on travel or doing fitness activities, but reading a book? Not that often.

  40. 4+ Books/month by mykepredko · · Score: 2

    Currently reading the SFWA's "Greatest Sci-Fi 1928-1964" edited by Theodore Sturgeon that I found in a used book store.

  41. Books and more... by ottdmk · · Score: 1

    On average, 3-4 books a month. Sometimes a lot more, sometimes a little less. I also read a lot of comics off of Marvel Unlimited and I'm currently using a 3-month free Texture account (thanks Rogers!) to read a bunch of magazines.

  42. Current vs. former average by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

    These days I suppose I manage an average 1 per month per year for the last several years. Granted, it only takes a few days to get through something sizeable. Back before 2010 for an uncertain number of years before that, probably five per month. What happened? Time and priorities. I find it exceptionally difficult to put down a book once started and when I finish one I am desperate to repeat the process. I did grow up with a large and diverse library. My dad ensured I took advantage of it. I still consider Chaucer to be punishment. I also had a set of encyclopedias which I spent a substantial amount of time with. I also had all of his college textbooks, which I still refer to. I didn't really get started on the library, encyclopedias, and textbooks until about age six. I can't tell you how much I read in my adolescence, but I can say it was an enormous amount. Right now I am about to start re-reading some Lovecraft and Kafka, just because. I also just received a copy of Fatwa that I still need to get started on.

    As a consequence, I was a total abject failure for the time I spent in the public school system. The level of boredom was hellish. I suspect I was considered an idiot. By the third grade it appeared as though I had yet to master basic multiplication. I was sent to the counselors office over it. She pulled out a big stack of times table flash cards. The situation peaked my interest and I nailed them all in under a second. Confusion within the schools administration ensued, but nothing productive came of it. At age 7 I discovered that the school was required to send a student home if their body temperature was 99.1 or above. I quickly discovered biofeedback through conscious intent. Needless to say, I always had a body temperature of 99.1. Well, at least when in the nurses office.

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    Brought to you by Carl's Junior.
  43. How many sugars would you like in your tea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Five Thousand Three Hundred and Sixty Three

  44. about one per month by hammarlund · · Score: 1

    sometimes 2. I'm currently re-reading Solaris by Lem. Last book was The Orphan Master's Son (excellent).

  45. Writing Instead of Reading by Jason+Levine · · Score: 0

    This past year I've been focused on writing books instead of reading them. (I'd like to do both but time constraints kept me from that.) I'm working on the sequel to my first book Defenders of Shadow and Light: Ghost Thief.

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    My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    1. Re:Writing Instead of Reading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yepp. I've also gone from Reading to Writing... which in turn lead to a whole lot more Reading...
      As a Kid, I read about 15 books a month, one after another. Most were rubbish of course, especially the Science Fiction. A few years back I got into History, and one thing led to another- I'm writing a book on 21st Century Imaging. But in order to describe why the Foveon Sensor was so braindead, I have to go into the Astrological nonsense that Newton believed in, and the hypocritical simplifications of Brewster.
      So let me check... 609 pages, A4, single spaced, Didot Font. I'm just barely into Spectroscopic Sensors and Sensor Cooling. But I still have some bile left for RGB.
      Aside from the Web always in front of me, I have piles of books scattered around my Writing Chair. Some I dig into on a daily basis, like Langford's "The Master Guide To Photography". Some I escape into, like Tuchman's "A Distant Mirror". What's at the bottom of the a pile... Burgess' "The Kingdom Of the Wicked". Every time I get too convoluted with Tech Talk, I like to read a complex concept written out simply and clearly.
      The problem here is that I am rarely just reading one book at a time these days. I usually have three or so in progress just by my bed. I have some Reference Works kept solely in the Bathroom for perusing during a good crap, and near the bottom of that pile is Reyburn's "Flushed With Pride". (First Edition, signed.) I can find inspiration in the oddest places.
      Publishing probably won't be much of a problem; University Of California Press gets first dibs as usual. They published most of my stuff up to now, including my papers on Electron Cyclotron Resonance.
      But geez... 609 pages... every time I go in to edit something down, I end up adding a few more pages.

    2. Re:Writing Instead of Reading by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      I used to read a lot of SF/Fantasy. Now I write more than I read. No, I haven't published any fiction. I write for my own amusement. It's way cheaper than reading.

      As a teen I had a hopeful view that if it was published and in print, it had to be at least okay if not good. Of course I ran into a few stinkers. But most of the books I read were decent. The whole concept of a UBG that I first encountered in Tolkien was at the time marvelous and novel. Before that, evil was just kind of scattered all over in small, disorganized, unconnected events. Some of my favorites are Zelazny, Asimov, Heinlein, LeGuin, Leiber, Niven. Some I have changed my mind about, seemed good at the time but now I can only stand to read them if in the mood for cheesy writing and plotting, such as Brooks' Shannara stuff. McCaffrey's Pern has held up better, but what I find irksome is the deus ex machina in so many of her plots. I am thoroughly sick of unlimited time travel into the past. It is the ultimate tool to fix any problem or issue. Just pop back in time and nip the problem, whatever it is, in the bud. Another problem I have with so many stories is that they are too pat. The protagonists overcome problems entirely too easily, their plans no matter how harebrained tend to work out successfully. Yeah, in real life, if we are ever shot at, it won't be by a squad of stormtroopers who are such bad shots that they couldn't hit the Death Star if it was in front of their noses.

      In the 1990s I dropped out. For me, what drove it was in large part the price. I can't forget that in the early 80s, a paperback was $1.95, and I've seen prices of $0.75 on books printed in the 60s and 70s. Dropping $2 on a paperback didn't feel like a big deal, but still, I stayed cool and never bought more than 5 at a time. By the end of the 80s, paperbacks were pushing past the $5 point, and that's when I quit. That's about double the rate of inflation. Would still browse, and saw prices just keep on climbing to about $7, at which point I stopped even looking. I used to be familiar with most titles in the SF/Fantasy section. Now I'm not.

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      Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
    3. Re:Writing Instead of Reading by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Basically same for me.
      But I live in germany and used to read in german. That creates several problems:
      1) sometimes bad translations (how can one be so stupid to mix up a gravity field with a magnetic field? That was a book of Arthur C Clark, I doubt he made the mistake)
      2) only the best sellers get translated, so if in a series of C. J. Cherryh one book does not sell good enough, it is not translated, in other words: you can not read/buy the whole set of sequels
      3) time ... a book from 2) might be translated 5 years later ... sorry, I read about books, and like to read them ASAP
      4) price ... simple paper backs are now at the $10 edge
      5) even ebooks have often absurd prices, close to the hard cover price, obviously people are paying such prices

      So I switched to english, about 15 years ago, did not buy a german (translated) book since a decade or longer.
      Right now I mainly get cost free ebooks, e.g. from oboooko.com
      If they have sequels in the price range of $0.99 - roughly $3.99 I buy them often. In rare cases I payed more. E.g. the 'In her name' series of Michael R. Hicks. One of the best books/story lines I have ever read.

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      Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  46. 0 - 1 by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    I used to be an avid reader.

    Now I drive two to three hours a day, I have a toddler at home, and my wife sees me reading and interprets it as time to get close and engage in activity around me because I must feel lonely.

    Audiobooks I do on occasion while driving, though I do tend to listen to political podcasts instead. I did listen to a Kevin MItnick one a couple of months back.

    I have literally something close to 100 industry related e-books I've gotten from the Humble Bundle I really want to dig into, but as a family man I can't seem to get them cracked open.

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  47. Are Fractions acceptable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about really low fractions?

    1. Re:Are Fractions acceptable? by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      i don't see why not. Care to elaborate?

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  48. This seems like an odd topic for Slashdot, but... by Daetrin · · Score: 1

    I definitely read less as an adult than i did as a kid, and less while in a relationship than when i'm single. In fact these days my "reading" is mostly restricted to audiobooks during my commute. When i'm at home my leisure time is usually spent watching TV or playing FF14 with my SO.

    It depends on the lengths of the books involved, but i spend about 40 hours on my commute per month, which works out to one really long book, 2-4 "normal" books, or a larger number of short stories or novellas. However if i get really engrossed in a book i'll find excuses to listen to it at other times.

    On audiobook i just finished up Martha Wells' novella "All Systems Red (The Murderbot Diaries)" and stated James Alan Gardner's novel "All Those Explosions Were Someone Else's Fault". My SO and i also listen to audiobooks when we're in the car together, currently we're listening to Sharon Shinn's "Unquiet Land", and when we're not too tired we'll read to each other a little before bed, for which we're currently on Lois McMaster Bujold's "A Civil Campaign".

    In theory i sometimes actually read a physical book on my own time at home as well. I picked up "The Last Deathship off Antares" a couple months ago because i wanted to see how it compared to my memories of reading it as a child, but despite it only being about 200 pages i still haven't managed to finish it. (There's always something else to grind out in FF14...) I'm going to have to do something about that soon however. I read the first two of Brandon Sanderson's "Stormlight Archive" books in physical format, so I'll need to change my patterns a bit if i want to continue that habit when "Oathbringer" comes out next week.

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  49. have had a hard time lately by thewolfkin · · Score: 1

    I used to read about eight a month. But for the past two maybe three months. Maybe one total. I've been slammed at work. I barely have time to pass out at night while watching Plex. Friend of mine and I exchanged books. I gave her The Slap and she gave me Grendal. Grendal is like 1/4th the side and she's finished her book and I'm barely 10 pages into mine.

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    Just another second banana
    1. Re:have had a hard time lately by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      I can sympathize with that. The voracity of my reading, or sometimes lack thereof, is dependent on what's going on in my life. I've tried audio books, but for me it's just not the same. As far as audio books while commuting, that's my really loud heavy metal time.

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      Brought to you by Carl's Junior.
  50. Depends on the length by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I would say about 150-250 pages per month depending on the text size, which is usually less than 1 full book.

    Just finished reading Michelet's La Sorcière, which took me about 8 weeks to go through at about 300 pages.

  51. Quite a few, but not from cover to cover by gmiller123456 · · Score: 1

    I do not read fiction (I just don't enjoy it), so I tend to read a lot of technical/programming books. Since they're usually pretty expensive, subscribing to one of the many publisher's unlimited ebook websites has really opened a new world for me. It used to be that I had to value a book's content quite a bit before I could read any of it, when I had to buy each one separately. Since it's usually not necessary to read each one from cover to cover, i tend to jump around a lot, and don't mind dumping a book after I've read as much as I'm interested in. The actual number of books varies with how much time I have to devote to it. But in the last 30 days, I've probably read a good portion of 20 to 30 different books.

  52. Read old books, read widely, read often by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    C.S. Lewis said to think that all the best ideas are the newest is chronological snobbery. How many people have read a book more than 100 years old? How about more than 500 years? How about more than 1,000 years?

    The original meaning of liberal arts was the study of things that make for a free person. That is the meaning that needs to be recaptured. The genuine study of ideas throughout history. But do not trust that colleges or government schools are going to teach it properly. Nobody needs to pay a professor six figures to pick up a book and read it themselves; just commit to being a reader.

    Read philosophy, history, economics, science, and great works of fiction (including philosophical novels). Read people you agree with and disagree with. Read many different authors from many different cultures and perspectives. And read old books just as much as new books.

    This frees the mind to use logic, empathize with others, understand the interconnectedness of ideas, and pursue freedom and prosperity.

    1. Re:Read old books, read widely, read often by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C.S. Lewis said to think that all the best ideas are the newest is chronological snobbery.

      The reverse applies too. I can't tell you how many times I have heard people put non-modern classical composers on a pedestal. Yeah, they're good but they aren't the best and unsurpassable just because it's old. There are a number of current day composers that are every bit as talented or even better.

    2. Re: Read old books, read widely, read often by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The difference is that only a handfulnof the old Classical composers are remembered. Just like today, a lot of the 'masters' contemporaries were composing throwaway trash.

  53. What I Read in October by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's see:

    The books of Deuteronomy, Job, Judges, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Peter, and Proverbs

    The Hole in our Gospel, Richard Stearns
    Friendship Evangelism By The Book, Tom Stebbins
    Rocking the Roles, Building a Win-Win Marriage, Robert Lewis

    So, something like 3.1 - 3.2 books.

  54. Will there be a prize? by swell · · Score: 1

    It's NaNoWriMo month, November, and my writing friends are frantically trying to finish a novel in a single month. There are no prizes, no accolades, only bragging rights if they succeed (or lie about it). I suppose that is what Slashdot is reduced to- clickbait for bragging rights. We can all claim we are taller, smarter, ours is bigger, and we read more books.

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  55. one or two by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    One or two a month. It used to be a lot more. In the last five years the number of books I read a month has dropped dramatically. But I read a lot of online tech magazines, and I follow four webcomics (Stand Still Stay Silent, Gunnerkrigg court, Schlock Mercenary, and currently finishing up The Red Fox's Tale.)

    Currently reading John Rin's "Live Free Or Die", a novel that takes place in the Schlockverse, a few hundred years before the beginning of Schlock Mercenary. It's a little slow. I'm hoping it picks up.

    Late last year I'd become addicted to the Honor Harrington novels. Best depiction of space combat I've read or seen anywhere. But by the fourth or fifth novel the author got lazy, cutting-and-pasting the same stuff over and over again. So I dumped it.

    Also read recently "Dome City Blues" and "Angel City Blues". I'm a fan of cyberpunk and hard-boiled detective novels, and these novels stroke both.

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    Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
  56. You should have done a poll by dargaud · · Score: 1

    Well, for what it's worth, I used to read a lot of SF. But that decreased significantly with my starting use of the Internet in 95, then took a much greater hit with a kid 4 years ago. And work. And extra activities. From a book a week to one a month to now only a few a year. And what I just started yesterday is the 4th and final book in the Destiny's Crucible series by Olan Thorensen, a pretty good mix of SF, alternate history and game of throne.

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  57. "A few", and dwindling by Vrallis · · Score: 1

    I mostly read at night in bed. In my 20s I'd go through a book every other night, up way too late. As I've gotten older I just can't keep my eyes open that long and find myself reading less and less before having to turn out the lights.

    Of course the size of book matters. I read mostly fantasy and scifi. I went through a kick reading lots of smaller scifi books, and even these days I'd go through 10 or so a month. Right this moment I'm re-reading the Wheel of Time series, though. At 800+ pages per book it's more like 2-3 a month.

  58. 0.25, roughly. Not enough. ... by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    "Predictably Irrational" I'm reading right now.

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    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  59. I kinda stopped reading: books and more books. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For all the geeks the Bobiverse series (1-3) by Taylor Dennis. Theta by Sasya Fox with plenty of twists and turns. The Last Good Man by Linda Nagata with a military bent. Awaken Online: Catharsis by Travis Bagwell.

    1. Re:I kinda stopped reading: books and more books. by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Bobiverse is Dennis E. Taylor, I believe. Just finished the trilogy. Enjoyed it quite a bit.

  60. My reading list. by Charcharodon · · Score: 1
    When I have time off 15-30 per month.

    When I'm working or in school 1-5

    Generally I can clear a 400-800pg book in a day. It really depends on what is available and how much free time I have. When various authors are not being very productive my number of read books drops. When the schedule is busy I'm reduced to letting the kindle read the books too me (it is much slower than if I read them myself)

    What do I read. Lots of fiction. Some non-fiction. Technical and engineering books. Political web articles online. How-to's.

    Lately Youtube videos and audio books eat up a lot of my time since I can listen to them during my daily biking commute 70 minutes round trip.

  61. Non-fiction for the win by dixonpete · · Score: 1

    Probably I scan 30-50 a month and deeply read 10. I just grab an arm of books at the library 2x a week and sit down for a couple of hours and pour over them. Diverse topics, usually on things I know nothing about.

  62. None, because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I grew up when there were no personal computers (so no web surfing, no social media, no Slashdot, etc.), no console or computer gaming, and only 3 TV channels with no way to time shift shows by recording them.

    So I read books voraciously. Primarily sci-fi and other fiction.

    Today I spend 4-6 hours a day reading news sites. I play games on my computer. And I can watch my favorite TV programs whenever I feel like it.

    I read zero books because:
    1. I'm tired of reading after perusing my news sites.
    2. I have so much other entertainment.
    3. I find books rather boring (in comparison I guess). I'll sit and read a book for half an hour and find I am not really interested.

  63. By 'books', I'm going to go with 'novel-length'... by CyberKender · · Score: 1

    In the past 30 days, I've read nine and I'm half-way through a tenth.
    Re-read Alan Dean Foster's Icerigger trilogy, Stephen Brust's new Taltos novel "Vallista," John DeChancie's Skyway trilogy, and the first two of Michael Moorcock's Elric series. Working on the third now.

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    CyberKender
    Apparently Appointed Lord Mayor of There
  64. Edison Rocks by AndyKron · · Score: 1

    How many phonograph cylinders do you listen to every month?

  65. I'm just picking up shiny pebbles on a beach.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    8-20, depending on depth and rigor

  66. The front page is fine by wjcofkc · · Score: 2

    So yeah, I see clearly how this could have been formed as a poll. Yet here it is. As of writing this almost all of the posts modded up are complaining it's not a poll. With a whole bunch of score 2 or less making the same complaint. It's here, it's on the front page, a done deal. As such all of those complaints should be scored offtopic. Maybe by the end of the day they will. Stop being a bunch of wet blankets and have a discussion already. I gave my response plus context for discussion. With all of the heavy topics we engage in here, this should be a fun subject to discuss.

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  67. On literacy by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

    I've already provided my most relevant post on this subject. As this discussion seems to have been derailed by people complaining it's not a poll, I'm adding a bit more for hopeful discussion. Then I'm off to reply to comments from people not complaining.

    A word on literacy in the US from a limited example. A little over a year ago, I discovered over the course of a short discussion that a good friend of mine had a background in literature that was woefully lacking. A few days later I got it into my head to buy him a hard copy of Brave New World. My thinking was that while the book is intellectual, it is also fun and easy to read. I dropped by to deliver it as a random gift. After handing it over he made what I will only describe as a funny face while looking at it. He proceeded to open to a random page, glance it at and then toss it down on his coffee table proclaiming, "That is a lot of words." I later found out that instead of even trying to read it, he used it as kindling for a fire. As it turns out, he had and has yet to ever read a book in his life. This was something he eventually proclaimed with great pride.

    Now, I could dissect that myself, but I would rather read other peoples comments on it especially their experiences regarding the literacy of people around them.

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    1. Re:On literacy by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      That's terrible. I know in some sense that there are people who don't enjoy books, but I don't understand how. I mean, if you look around, there are books about everything. Unless a person is totally uninterested in everything the world over, it seems like there ought to be a few books for them.

    2. Re:On literacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I get out of it is:

      1) You are in a circle of stupid people, likely because you can't do better.
      2) You are still imperious and bossy.
      3) You don't know literature if you think Brave New World is your #1 example of a fun book, good to give to people who don't read. The book has some interesting ideas but is written for shit. And who's the protagonist?

  68. between 4 and 6 big books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Estimated. I got my kids a library card and discovered I could use it as well so now I have a serious time problem. Reading now The Bully Pulpit about Roosevelt, Taft etc. Very good, 700+ pages and I've got another big book already checked out. It's like being an alcoholic again without the hangovers or the expense.

  69. Depends on the month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But as many as five. So much for Steve Job's 'Nobody reads anymore' proclamation.

  70. Porn or non-porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Porn or non-porn?
    For porn, I'm a voracious reader (online at Literotica). For non-porn, I'm also a voracious reader, going through several SF or fantasy books a month, and an occasional textbook.

  71. Less now by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    I read about 10 a month.
    Before I retired, I read around 35 a month, but I had a job consisting mainly on waiting for an emergency to happen. Retirement is a series of emergencies. :-)
    I read now everything that Amazon gives me for free for under 10 bucks a month, much cheaper than buying books.

  72. Pages by Event+Horizon · · Score: 1

    "How many books do you read per [time]?" is a poor question, because it's so dependent on the size of the books. Number of pages per time is still not perfect, because all pages are not the same, either, but they're usually pretty close. But books? I read mostly epic fantasy. 600-900 pages per book is pretty standard. Books with >1200 pages are not rare. My mother reads Harlequin romances that weigh in at 150-200 pages. I read about 2000 pages per month, or about 2-3 books. If I read my mother's books, I'd read 0 books per month.

    Just finished Phillip Pullman's first volume of "The Book of Dust", which I've been looking forward to for about 20 years. "His Dark Materials" is probably my all time favorite work, and this long-awaited companion work did not dissapoint. I'm now looking forward to Brandon Sanderson's "Oathbringer", the third book of "The Stormlight Archive", which will be released on Nov. 14.

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    You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. - Bob Dylan "Subteranean Homesick Blue
  73. All non-fiction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe one. I read six to eight hours a day, but not much from books. I go through about a dozen books a year. All nonfiction. All very dense and often very long.

    I picked up a 900 page primary-source philosophy book last Christmas and am about 600 pages through it. Some subjects like that takes incredible amounts of time to really digest. Read a few pages, then take hours pondering the complex ideas presented, repeat.

    Reading through the comments, I wonder how much non-fiction readers can get from works while going through several per month. The only ones books that I have an 80%+ retention rate and can get through quickly are in the technology areas I specialize in, but there are only so many decent ones produced per year that the reading list is mostly updated versions which can be diffed in a few blog posts.

    I expect to read and understand nearly all of the material in a work and remember it for at least a few years. Do other people value retention as much as I do or am I an outlier?

  74. excess roughage intake by epine · · Score: 1

    I place about 16 holds a month at the local library, for myself and my wife, of which about four are usually DVDs (representing the entirely of our household TV consumption). Perhaps half of the books are common interest, and the other half divides evenly between my interests and my wife's interests.

    How much of a book I actually read depends on the book. The least substantial items get a quick, thirty minute once-over. Sometime I just want to assess the strength of the author, which does not require reading every damn page. For many of the book I'll read half the chapters in full, and glance over the other half. A couple of books a months I devour sequentially.

    Perhaps one book a month I'd read out loud to my wife at bedtime. Perhaps such a book gets ten hours of oratorial attention. It's surprising what books work for reading out loud and what books don't. It's also surprising how much differently you end up understanding the author by the end of the process.

    We're working through Do No Harm: Stories of Life, Death and Brain Surgery (2014) by Henry Marsh as our bedtime material right now. At one point last night, I needed to read a phrase which involved several words in quick succession in the mold of "haemangioblastoma", with the middle word hyphenated at the end of a line. I just kill myself trying to read at an even pace no matter what confronts me. I could feel my panic rising a full line in advance. But for that confounded hyphen, combined with the distracting blue blood "ae", I might have made it. Blue blood is my personal kryptonite.

    Marsh garden-pathed me a few times with awkward placement of small words like "is", but otherwise his style is a dream for reading aloud. There's almost always something intense going on, he frequently comments on it from an extremely personal place (not always flattering), but never dawdles over his confessions.

    Pinker is regarded as a great stylist, and his words do flow more smoothly than most science authors, but I always find I need to suck in air by the barrel to get through his initial strawman construction. Then he'll finally get around to thoroughly deflating his strawman, often with fine insight. Unfortunately, the giant air suck finally disqualified him for reading out loud. Pinker doesn't seem to understand that the unwashed includes some mighty shrewd cookies, whose native instincts would put many academics to shame, if there was/were any possibility of a fair fight between man at large and organized highbrow.

    Reading a book out loud is roughly equivalent to blitzing through a book entirely by eye three times over in terms of the intensity of impression you're left with, though you'll be left with quite different things.

    Beyond books, I average about two hours a day of general reading online. All the content at edge.org, about half the items at aldaily.com, a quarter of the transcripts at TED (few of the actual videos are worth one's time, any more), the majority of American political coverage from The Guardian, the New York Times, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, Politico, and Vox, sometimes with excursions into The Daily Beast or Doubleclickbait (er, Business Insider). If once in a while something leaks over the WSJ's paywall, I read that, too.

    I also deliberately seek out viewpoints from people like David Frum, George Will, Michael Gerson, and Michael Lind. I frequently listen to an EconTalk episode while cooking dinner, so I'm also up to my eyeballs in Classical Liberalism (with a mild, yet increasingly irritating neoliberal slant—if only because Russ is becoming progressively worse at preventing his slant from walking him back from the hard-nosed questions). To his credit, Russ is a voracious reader. He really does bend himself over every guest's book (he might employ a never-mentioned staffer who pre-winnows, but I wouldn't put money on this proposition). Has Coulter ever endorsed a book that wasn't edited by Winston Wilhelm Wordsmith II? Just asking. Th

    1. Re:excess roughage intake by inicom · · Score: 1

      thanks for the link to edge.org - now something else to keep in my list.

      In return I gift you the entire collection of Manas - Explorations in Ethical Thought
      http://www.manasjournal.org/pd...

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      -a.e.mossberg
  75. It's obvious by DCFusor · · Score: 1

    I really didn't need everyone to say they don't read. Here and elsewhere, the misuse of what is the milk tongue for most of us makes it obvious. We're into some kind of 'bonics here - it's plain most are phonetically spelling, and know little grammar. It's silly to be proud of ignorance. Implied in most comments is that you want to share how clever or smart you are. Not knowing your own language, and being proud of it isn't a great way to convince me, or other readers that you are either one.
    To the people who whine about pedantry - this isn't even close to that - this is reminding adults or near adults that many of us had better command of the English language when we were 6 years old.
    Snarkily saying "well if you understood me it's good enough" doesn't cut it either. If I had to do extra work just to understand you, yeah, that makes an impression alright - one that says you expect me to do all the work, that you're a lazy asshole. Fine, you can talk/type, but I don't have to listen/read. It's obvious you don't have much to teach me anyway. Loose is not what you are, you lose. When doing something also, it's not to. Go out and try to have an effect, Learn your damn language - books are a great way - or shut up. Stop wasting our time. When this old you get, realize you will that time is the one thing you can't pay back, or get back.

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  76. Current Book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm lucky if I read 1 book a month (besides Graphic novels).
    I only have time to read in "bathroom sized" increments, if you know what I mean! ;)

  77. It's dropped by inicom · · Score: 1

    currently completing 3-6 monthly, depending on workload.
    It would've been 6-10 in the past but as the need for glasses grew my pleasure reading time declined

    Currently open and in progress:

    Spider Kiss/Harlan Ellison (1st time)
    Complete Sherlock Holmes/Arthur Conan Doyle (re-reading the collection)
    Sorcerers Ascension/Brock Deskins (new, amazon freebie)
    The World Until Yesterday/Jared Diamond (1st time)
    Man & Spirit: The Speculative Philosophers (re-read)
    The Center of the Cyclone/John S. Lilly (re-read)

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    -a.e.mossberg
    1. Re:It's dropped by inicom · · Score: 1

      John C. Lilly - whoops.

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      -a.e.mossberg
  78. Zero by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not proud of it; I'm even embarrassed. But I definitely average less than 1 books per month. The sickest, darkest part: it's less than 1 per year.

    Used to read all the time. Then I got a smartphone. Now I'm on the web or playing Clash of Clans all the time, instead. Lame. (Lamer than an iPod!)

  79. What Is A Book? by econuke · · Score: 1

    Those cardboard things you see in museums?

  80. 5 - 10 by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

    I'm just lazy in updating my /. signature.

    I mostly read free ebooks, as most ebook shops have free books all the time. I'm on several mailing lists that promote free ebooks.

    Regarding the 'first post', I would not mind if questions like this, especially with hints what to read, are asked/posted once a month.

    The last really good big thing I read was a triology from Andreas Christensen, Exodus, Rift, Alive. I believe the first one is Rift.

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    Cost free eBook I read (by iBook/Kobo/Amazon/ObookO/Gutenberg etc.): "The Green Odyssey" by Philip Jose Farmer.
  81. 20 books per month-ish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read about 15 fiction books per month, 3 technical non-fiction, and 2 ish general studies.

    Plus a dozen magazines, and countless blogs and rss feeds.

    Probably a good 2 hours per day, adding the individual pre-work, lunch and post-work periods. Often more on the weekends.

    I slowed way down in the last few years, but was unemployed this summer and got back into the groove.

  82. One or two by DaMattster · · Score: 1

    I like reading non-fiction and historical fiction. I am a military history buff.

  83. Around six, on average by johannesg · · Score: 1

    I read roughly two meters worth of books per year, which comes down to six or so per month. Obviously it depends a lot on the books themselves: a 1500 page monster will take considerably longer than a pocket. And collections of short stories take forever, since I tend to stop after each story to ruminate on it.

    This number is considerably higher than five years ago, because back then I was mostly reading magazines. I decided to give up on that particular hobby and start reading books again - in part because I had so many unread books lying around. At the current speed, it will take another four years or so to get through the backlog.

    This month I read the Witcher saga. Of course I can't help comparing it to the games, which I also played. In the book Geralt bows to anyone and everyone (unlike the game, which informs you he has a reputation for never bowing to anyone), and is a hell of a lot more sexually repressed. His combat style, full of pirouettes, is easily recognizable, but he seems to completely forget about his ability to cast signs during the course of the story.

    The first two books basically read like a collection of side quests from Witcher 3. The next five books are the main quest, which centers on the war with Nilfgaard, and focuses on Ciri more than on Geralt. I found I didn't really appreciate the writing style: too much of the story is told from the point of view of various future historians, there is too much attention to minor characters who usually die soon anyway, the story jumps haphazardly through time and space, and the author has an unpleasant knack for throwing in tiny details that have huge repercussions, winking to the reader to show how clever he is. These are not major irritants, and the whole saga is certainly worth a read, especially if you liked the games as well, but I think it would have been more enjoyable had it simply focused on Geralt and his adventures as a witcher.

  84. A lot less now I have a kid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used to read 1-2 books a week. Now I struggle to find time to read 1 every month or two.

  85. Books after books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    P.K. Dick all the way. Asimov. Frank Herbert. Shogun and Tai Pan by James Clavel

  86. Fifteen or so by jsrjsr · · Score: 1
    Usually about 15. My reading rate has increased because of Amazon and Kindle. Recently:
    • Voyage by Stephen Baxter
    • Pompeii's Ghosts by J. Robert Kennedy
    • A Second Chance: The Chronicles of St. Mary's 3 by Jodi Taylor
    • The Icarus Hunt by Timothy Zahn
    • Black Sheep One: The Life and Times of Gregory "Pappy" Boyington by Bruce Gamble
    • The Bear and The Dragon by Tom Clancy
    • Little Book of Junk Science
    • Lacuna by David Adams
    • The Intruders by Stephen Coonts
    • For the Triumph of Evil by Ryk Brown
    • I am AWAKE by Fisher Samuels
    • Time Crimes: The Paratime Collection (Five Novels) by H. Beam Piper
    • A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark Twain
  87. ~0.33 book/month (but wait...) by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    This is because I've been reading Journey To The West in dual translation/facing pages. It's in six volumes, and it takes me about 3 months to get through one of them reading the Chinese original and trying not to depend on the English version unless I really get stumped.

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  88. 0. by antdude · · Score: 1

    Wait, do magazines count? I read some articles in those. :P

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  89. What are books? by kristofer.vesi · · Score: 1

    0, I read ebooks.

  90. Books per month by geowar · · Score: 1

    As of 2010 I'd read about 3000 (SF) books in 30 years... That's about 8 1/3 books per month. In 2010 I switched to Kindle on iPad and have since read about 1400 (SF) books... That's about 16.66 books per months (but Kindle books are smaller). (You didn't ask but my fav's are Larry Niven, Robert Sawyer (excluding H. H. & H.), James P. Hogan, and lately Hugh Howey (Silo!), Christopher Nuttall, Phillip P. Peterson & Bella Forrest.)

    1. Re:Books per month by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

      While we have 5000+ books in the house between my wife and me and a kid. But I had pretty much stopped reading entire books due to the dust in them increasingly bothering my eyes -- until I took over my wife's abandoned Kindle about two years ago. She prefers paper books and says she remembers them better.

      We had also essentially run out of shelf space too, another reason I tried really hard not to buy any more books.

      Since starting to use the Kindle, I've been reading books again -- maybe a couple a month on average, roughly 75% sci-fi, 20% business&personal development, and 5% history/misc. I don't like the Kindle as a concept because of its continual spying and DRM, but I like the ease of use and lack of paper dust and dust mites. I'm on book two of all of Theodore Sturgeon's collected short writings at the moment ("a Microcosmic God").

      I had kind of felt books were obsolete with the web -- but I am finding I still like a well-organized reading experience without continual side link distractions (especially for entertainment novels). And psychologically, I prefer having a different device for reading books that trying to do that on a laptop I use for web surfing, video watching, or programming.

      I probably am breaking the Kindle system of top highlights in books I read because I am tending to pause and highlight most of the books I read in small conceptual sections -- which I think may help me remember it and reflect on it more perhaps. I would almost never highlight anything in a physical book.

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      A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  91. A couple interesting new series by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 1

    Try the EarthCent Ambassador Series E.M Foner. It has no gore, and is generally positive and funny with friendly AI.

    There is also the Old Guy Cybertank adventures by Timothy Gawne which I enjoyed as hard sci fi with an AI theme but it is not as positive (even if the main character is likable). It stars a sentient WMD and involves lots of military conflicts and other challenges. There is some incidental gore and craziness, but it generally relates specifically to the plot and so is rarely pointless in that sense and is not especially dwelled on. Well, OK, now that I think about it, about a billion humans get turned into slime by space aliens in one story, but it did not seem gory at the time as it happens so quickly (even as it was tragic). In one story two cybertanks do have a cybertank child together but the description is handled tastefully. And there are vampires. Oh well, as much as I personally really want there to be one more Old Guy novel, try the other series first if you want something fluffier without any sex and violence... :-)

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    A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
  92. Still reading after all these years... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Two or three works of fiction per month. I do re-read books every so often - revisiting old friends.

    I think the Kindle was a fine invention :-) Makes it so much easier to carry an entire library. I don't have to limit myself to the books I can carry.

  93. Science Fiction:The Light of Other Days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003CTEFLG/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

    From Arthur C. Clarke, the brilliant mind that brought us 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Stephen Baxter, one of the most cogent SF writers of his generation, comes a novel of a day, not so far in the future, when the barriers of time and distance have suddenly turned to glass.

    When a brilliant, driven industrialist harnesses cutting-edge physics to enable people everywhere, at trivial cost, to see one another at all times—around every corner, through every wall—the result is the sudden and complete abolition of human privacy, forever. Then the same technology proves able to look backward in time as well. The Light of Other Days is a story that will change your view of what it is to be human.

  94. I have a young kid and a full time job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read maybe 0.4 books a month at the moment.

    Currently reading a very relaxing tome about the Yom Kipper war!

  95. slow reader by golden_donkey · · Score: 1

    Being a slow reader, how do you guys manage to read more than 4 - 5 books a month? How do you find interesting books worth reading? Right now I am reading - "Astrophysics for people in a hurry" and although I find the book interesting, I know most of the stuff already and think that "A short history of nearly everything" is way better. Having read Sheckley, Asimov, Clark and others, I find it hard to find new sci-fi that is original and interesting. I think of reading the "Wheel of time" series, but I guess it will take me a year the least to finish it. Maybe having too many hobbies is preventing me to read more.