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The iPhone X Becomes Unresponsive When It Gets Cold (zdnet.com)

sqorbit writes: Apple is working on a fix for the newly release iPhone X. It appears that the touch screen can become unresponsive when the iPhone is subjected to cold weather. Users are reporting that locking and unlocking the phone resolves the issue. Apple stated that it is aware of the issue and it will be addressed in a future update.

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  1. So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let the war of words begin. I guess those in the Great White North (Canada) are out of luck!

    And BTW, is this the same company so many praise for its unparalleled attention to detail?

    1. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Freischutz · · Score: 1

      Let the war of words begin. I guess those in the Great White North (Canada) are out of luck!

      And BTW, is this the same company so many praise for its unparalleled attention to detail?

      Yes indeed, how does this fit into Apple's evil plan achieve world domination and enslave humanity?

    2. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess those in the Great White North (Canada) are out of luck!

      I love Canada, but why would Apple give even one shit about such a small market?

      There are billions of Apple customers in even colder climates.

    3. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The guy who had unparalleled attention to detail quit the company a few years ago, because he died. The new guy in charge seems afraid to tell people that their ideas suck.

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    4. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

      The Canadian market is to the USA market what the USA market is to the Asian market.

      So why the fuck should Apple give even one shit about the small north-american market?

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    5. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh right, like when the same kind of cold climate thing happened before, while the unparalleled attention to detail guy was still alive and being a giant douche?

    6. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by TWX · · Score: 1

      We're seeing yet another example of Apple post-Jobs.

      Jobs didn't bat a thousand, but he was very good at figuring out what people would want even if they themselves didn't know it, and under him the company generally did a decent job of quality assurance testing.

      Post-Jobs, they are messing up the designs and they're failing to do good quality control.

      Except this time they can't bring him back except via Ouija Board.

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    7. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love Canada, but why would Apple give even one shit about such a small market?

      I am gonna say that you probably aren't a business owner.

    8. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why we call it a crapapple.

    9. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Funny

      You mean the iQuija Board, now with SpritSense(tm) technology to authenticate the souls of those who respond. Available in classic white and graveyard black!

    10. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Canadian market is to the USA market what the USA market is to the Asian market.
      So why the fuck should Apple give even one shit about the small north-american market?

      They don't.

      Thanks for agreeing with me.

    11. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      To be fair, someone with unparalleled attention to detail would be able to spot the difference between effective cancer treatment and widely acknkowledged woo.

      Jobs paid unparalleled attention to hipster marketing.

    12. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy who had unparalleled attention to detail quit the company a few years ago, because he died. The new guy in charge seems afraid to tell people that their ideas suck.

      Woz died? WTF?

      I googled this, it is 100% wrong.

    13. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by MoaDweeb · · Score: 1, Funny

      You're holding it wrong?

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    14. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      North-America = USA and Canada combined, you idiot

    15. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by hey! · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, a lot of what you're talking about is neither here nor there with respect to this situation. It's a truism by this point that customers don't really know what you want until you show it to them -- although this doesn't mean that you as a product developer know any better.

      But one of the things that people forget that Jobs did when he came back is that he drastically simplified Apple's product line. Since a single product can't satisfy everyone, companies tend toward having many products through a kind of incrementalism, trying to capture as much of the market as possible. But there are downsides to having too many products and versions of products. Selling is harder, because you have to walk prospective customers through all the choices you offer, and they're often never quite satisfied that they made the right choice. Production, delivery and support become harder too; you can't hit one out of the park when you're trying to swing at as many balls as you physically can.

      Jobs also made a virtue of the drawbacks of a more limited product offering by turning the new product offerings into an event -- something much harder to do when sexy new features are spread across a large number of products. Putting all your eggs in fewer baskets turns a complicated basket selection decision into a simple go/no go for consumers.

      There are currently eight iPhone models in production, four introduced over an eighteen month period. I wonder whether this is a move back to the product-for-everyone incrementalism that Jobs product discipline replaced. Mobile phones are possibly the single most challenging consumer product to engineer and produce; it's quite possible we're looking at an Apple with too many balls in the air.

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    16. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Funny

      It is quite simple. First, make a phone that does not work below a certain temperature. Thus you force everyone into a smaller geographic region, say +/- 35 degrees off the equator. Next, make the display take on green lines, and you force people to avoid wilderness areas (since they may lose their now-green phone, because it is effectively camouflaged) so they all end up in urban areas. Once Apple has you constrained to those areas - control is greatly simplified!

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    17. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes indeed, how does this fit into Apple's evil plan achieve world domination and enslave humanity?

      You're kidding, right? They can't even do a full environmental evaluation on a major product launch. Take over the world? That's preposterous.

      Environmental chambers are not a big expense, it's established testing protocol to do that sort of evaluation. What else have they skipped testing?

    18. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then apple will build a walled garden and make android users pay for it.

    19. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      canadians can always choose the built-in heaters found in samsung phones, but they're a little unpredictable.. sorta like the weather.

    20. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      iJunk X has being "designed" for shitty smelly chimps in shitty jungles of stupid hindustan. Libturds favorite kind.

    21. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +5

    22. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aww. There's no butthurt like Android fanboy butthurt.

      Come back when an iPhone X fucking explodes and you're not allowed to take them on the plane anymore.

    23. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Google, not to be outdone, hastily releases their secret project, Summon.

      They left all the testing up to the users so they never noticed it can only summon Satan.

    24. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He paid attention to details. You just got hung up on the marketing because you never really used the products during that time.

    25. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Nah, he's too busy micromanaging moving parts between warehouses.

    26. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Five years later, Microsoft releases Microsoft Ghost Talk Series for Work.

    27. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      North-America = USA and Canada combined, you idiot

      Good God, are you drunk?

      Apple don't care about Canada + Apple don't care about USA = Apple don't care about USA + Canada.

      This is so fucking clear, I'm honestly worried for you. Get some help

    28. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He paid attention to details.

      How about the 'detail' that macbooks didn't (don't?) ship with a Paint-equivalent? That bit me in the ass a few times during college during group projects when forced to work with other people's laptops.

      Or everything about old itunes? The first and last Apple product I personally owned was a gen4 ipod, and I wound up needing to rerip almost every CD I owned because itunes refused to use my old files (IIRC because they were mostly .wma's that I'd ripped with WMP).

      Steve Jobs was simply a marketing genius who was amazingly good at manufacturing trendiness and building a cult of personality. You may recognize these techniques in his modern successor, Elon Musk.

    29. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Q-Hack! · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Expectations a bit high maybe? Most rugged laptops fail to boot at about that same temp.

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    30. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by OrangeTide · · Score: 2

      There are billions of Apple customers in even colder climates.

      Really? Billions? Think about what you are saying. How many people do you think are in Outer Mongolia? You need several countries the size of Russia to make even one billion let alone billions, plural.

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    31. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Mexico? Does Apple care about Mexico? Costa Rica? Panama?

    32. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rtfm
      https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201678

    33. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's obvious that some people are colding it wrong.

    34. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

      Did Mexico move to NORTH-America?

      Do you even geography?

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    35. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Wow. You're pissed at Apple because you were dumb enough to rip all your CDs into a lame-ass Microsoft-only format? Seriously?

      iTunes works fine with MP3 and AAC files, both industry standards. The only Apple-only format is Apple lossless.

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    36. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      The sad truth is, he's probably still doing his old job, which would explain why everything else sucks so bad.

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    37. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by cstacy · · Score: 1

      It's obvious that some people are colding it wrong.

      I should not have spent all my mod points

    38. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      And BTW, is this the same company so many praise for its unparalleled attention to detail?

      No kidding. Maybe they should do a joint venture with Samsung. When the screen becomes unresponsive from the cold the phone spontaneously combusts. Problem solved.

    39. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by antdude · · Score: 2

      Yeah, need to resurrect that guy. :P Too bad Steve Woz won't do it.

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    40. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      You're holding it wrong?

      You're holding it in the wrong place.

    41. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Wasn't it rumored that the pilot's iPad took down MH370 or one of those planes?

    42. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah dude! So gonna go ask my Google Pixel 2 XL to "Take a Selfie, take a selfie, take a selfie" in the snow! LOL!

    43. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love my Pixel 2 XL but I hate that fucking ad so much ...

      Can't believe the Google ad team descended into such a dumbass level to chase after the ifuck Millenia

    44. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Bullshit, itunes is a piece of crap with all formats of media

    45. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mexico is on the North American plate.

      (Last time I checked, geography did include discussions regarding tectonic plates)

      The USA is not an island.

      Idiot.

      N.

    46. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Northern american states get cold to btw did you think this is by design or more likely laziness.
      never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

    47. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Mexico is indeed in North America! I was thinking of freakin' Brazil!

      I'm the one who can't geography!

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    48. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      As long as Apple is profitable, no one from the board of directors is gonna say a word.

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    49. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Thundercat007 · · Score: 1

      My good ol' Rugged Samsung boots @ -40 even a leaving it in the car over night. Sure it runs Android 4.4.1 never receiving an update ever. But it'll boot up.

    50. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well ... The thing is.. Their attention to details fokus on the details of how you can screw over everyone and everything with the highest efficiency and make most money While doing it..

      The next iphone will most likely be a very cheap android phone with an iOS launcher priced at 2 times the current iphonex price... The isheep Will never notice and will defend Apple forever nomatter what they do

      But atleast then the isheep will get a phone with SOME of all the modern features we android users are consistently enjoying

    51. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Possibly, they had issues with people living in cold places taking their phones in and out of buildings and finding that water had condensed inside the phone. Warranty repair refused because the moisture detection strips had been triggered.

      Eventually Apple relented and said they would give case-by-case consideration, but for a while there their solution was to live somewhere with less humidity.

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    52. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      The only Apple-only format is Apple lossless.

      Only for encoding. There are open source ALAC decoders available, which is all you need to bring them into a more standard format.

    53. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What kind of craptacular "rugged" laptops are you using? I've been using Thinkpads and Toughbooks in -18C conditions without issue. Well, my fingers not being able to type my password was an issue, but the keyboard was fine.

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    54. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've provided so much proof and so many sources that I'm totally convinced!

      I agree that iTunes has its issues, but "compatibility with industry standard media formats" is not one of them.

    55. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Is that the one where you use your iPhone as the planchette? That never works for my friends and I, I guess we're holding it wrong.

      (WTF, Mozilla. Planchette ain't in the dictionary, but Fanchette (which is a name!) is? Pla-thetic.)

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    56. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

      i paid 2k 4 2 fones. 1 4 me, 1 4 the wife...and we live in az...dont put them anywhere "near" anything cold which is sad.

    57. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      Apple has a lot of attention to detail but they also have the most users of a single model, and most of them pay a lot of attention to detail.
      It means that small issues get a lot more publicity.
      Also posting a story about Apple sells much more than something about LG, HTC or Motorola and their issues rarely make headlines.

      Samsung is also victim of its popularity, though not as much as Apple. There was the Note7 fiasco obviously but I remember the Note5 making the news because some people had their styluses stuck because they jammed them upside down. Because it's Google, Nexus/Pixel get some attention but that's nothing compared to Apple.

    58. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by mjwx · · Score: 0

      Yes indeed, how does this fit into Apple's evil plan achieve world domination and enslave humanity?

      You're kidding, right? They can't even do a full environmental evaluation on a major product launch. Take over the world? That's preposterous.

      Environmental chambers are not a big expense, it's established testing protocol to do that sort of evaluation. What else have they skipped testing?

      Hey, we said they were planing to dominate the planet and enslave the species... We never said they were any good at it.

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    59. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by adolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As much as I think I might like to own a Woz phone, I do not think that it would be a very practical device.

      Awesome, but not practical.

    60. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you smoking Apple isn't even number 3 anymore.

    61. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by aficionadeau · · Score: 1

      Designed in California...

    62. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by afidel · · Score: 1

      Um, I've only had one but my Toughbook refused to boot below about 36F. It came up and told you that it was too cold and to try again in a few minutes. If I had left it out in the car in single digit temps it would take 20-30 minutes in a 70 degree room before it was warm enough to boot. Apparently the fully ruggadized ones come with a HDD heater but the semi-rugged ones just have the sensor and won't allow it to boot until the drive comes up to operating temp (newer ones I'm sure just use an SSD to avoid the issue).

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    63. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 1

      The Canadian market is to the USA market what the USA market is to the Asian market.

      So why the fuck should Apple give even one shit about the small north-american market?

      Canada is the #1 trade partner of the US ... So assuming your analogy holds, they would give quite a few shits about the US market.

    64. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The older ones we had used CF cards instead of mechanical HDDs. The newer ones are SSDs.

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    65. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by SandWyrm · · Score: 1

      I still remember a friend of mine buying the original titanium PowerBook upon release. If you picked up his shiny new laptop by opposite corners, the battery would fall out.

      Which is why you NEVER, EVER, buy the first version of any Apple product. They test intensively, but not widely, due to their desire for secrecy.

      So to those who are buying the new iMac Pro in a few weeks... Good luck suckers!

    66. Re: So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Holy shit. I thought you were trying for an unfunny joke. Instead, you confirmed you failed primary school. You're allowed to use the computer without adult supervision? Good for you!

    67. Re:So much for Apple's [incredible] design... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      they had issues with people living in cold places taking their phones in and out of buildings and finding that water had condensed inside the phone

      So - iPhones aren't remotely waterproof - or for that matter dust proof? Which has been a characteristic of my last 3 or 4 phones.

      A fuck does not need to be given about water condensing on the outside of a waterproof phone. If the phone is waterproof then the moisture-laden air doesn't get inside it to do any damage if it condenses.

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  2. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    At this point, I really have no sympathy for those who rushed out and paid $1000 to be a glorified beta tester.

    1. Re: So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not glorified at all. Real beta testers don't have to buy the damn phone and get paid for the work. I guess we should call then Fanboi beta testers or something else that signifies something to be ashamed of.

    2. Re: So by TWX · · Score: 1

      Beta testers often don't get paid, but they don't have to pay either, and they get access to new technology sooner than if they had to wait for release.

      A friend of mine was an official beta tester for Windows 4.0 (later '95) and NT 4.0. He didn't have to pay, but he did have to supply his own floppy disks to create install media with.

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    3. Re: So by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Did the original Farmville by Zynga ever leave 'beta' state? I think they just shut down the beta when they came out with Farmville 2.

  3. Who cares? Designed by Apple in California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Everybody who matters lives there.

    1. Re:Who cares? Designed by Apple in California by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      California? Nobody lives in water.

      Oh wait, it's still 2017. My bad.

      Live your life as if it's your last days, my friend!

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    2. Re:Who cares? Designed by Apple in California by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      The state won't all be water. When the big quake happens and it sloughs off a chunk of the coast, there will still be substantial land mass. I understand out-state California is pretty nice in places.

    3. Re:Who cares? Designed by Apple in California by sheramil · · Score: 1

      Oh wait, it's still 2017. My bad.

      SHHH! Remember what happened to Galaxity!

  4. Looking forward to the next OS patch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope it makes it waterproof too.

    1. Re: Looking forward to the next OS patch by fj3k · · Score: 2

      They plan on fixing the cold weather problem by mining bitcoins to heat the phone.

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    2. Re: Looking forward to the next OS patch by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      That's... actually pretty funny and/or clever, I'm not sure which.

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  5. Shouldn't be a problem if by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple users kept their phones up their ass

  6. I'm confused. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How does this affect California?

    It never gets that cold in Cupertino.

  7. A chilly performance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The iPhone X Becomes Unresponsive When It Gets Cold "

    So do a lot of guys.

    1. Re:A chilly performance. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      "Well, I just got back from going outside. And it was cold..."
      "Oh, you mean... unresponsiveness."
      "Yes. Significant unresponsiveness."

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  8. Late Nerd News by methano · · Score: 0

    Isn't this (/.) supposed to be a nerd site where nerd news is up to the minute? This came out a few days ago already. I shouldn't be reading old nerd news on this site. I think Apple has already released a patch and 83% of iPhone users have installed it already.

    1. Re:Late Nerd News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I would think that testing various temp/humidity conditions would be standard procedure for a product you plan on selling worldwide. A patch should not even be necessary.

    2. Re:Late Nerd News by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      This is on apple.slashdot.org, not the main site. Anything on the Apple subdomain has to go through focus groups in Cupertino first. They're pretty busy there at the moment.

  9. welcome... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to the new AppleDot, where we feature at least 2 stories a day about a single Apple product.

    1. Re:welcome... by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      hence the reason it's on apple.slashdot.org

  10. Should Apple find another CEO? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    There seems to be no evidence that Tim Cook is able to lead Apple.

    1. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by Known+Nutter · · Score: 1

      Anyone with an informed opinion on whether or not Tim Cook can lead Apple does not need a link to his Wikipedia page. Just sayin'...

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    2. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone with an informed opinion on whether or not Tim Cook can lead Apple does not need a link to his Wikipedia page. Just sayin'...

      Anyone with an informed opinion would never end their statement with "Just Saying" or anything similar such as upspeak or any other insecure passive aggressive crap like you just did there.

    3. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by TimHunter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      AAPL closed at $54.04 on Oct 5, 2011, the day Steve Jobs died. On June 9, 2014 it closed at $645.57, up 1095%. That day it split 7 for 1. This past Friday AAPL closed at $174.67. If the stock had not split the share price today would be $1222.69. So, if you had bought a share of stock in Apple on 10/5/2011 then you would've made 2162% on your investment.

      Apple sold 78.29 million iPhones in 1Q17.

      It seems to me that this is evidence that Tim Cook is able to lead Apple.

    4. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Your argument includes no null hypothesis. What would the stock price have been of Jobs was still around?

      While we're at it a CEO change takes real time to materialise. A good portion of that meteoric rise in stocks between 2011 and 2014 were due to both market forces and the recent legacy and momentum of what Jobs had built.

      It's quite telling that pussy Jobs the stock price seems to either say "meh" or spike down every time Tim Cook gets on a stage. The only time that happened to Jobs in modern Apple was when he got on stage looking thin and frail.

      Driving a great company into the ground take time. Let's see how Apple is doing in another 10 years.

      By the way other stocks at record highs include MS and also Yahoo. Remember them?

    5. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by chris.vanderheyden · · Score: 1

      It well just may be that investors are a bunch of blind clueless lemmings that just follow the trend of the day!

    6. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy Christ I don't even know where to start with this post.

      Null hypothesis? This isn't a program in a testing environment. What is, is. There's literally no way to test what Jobs would have done in the same situation. Maybe he would have done better, maybe not. Apple is worth 900 BILLION right now though (rounding, as of this moment it's "only" 896 billion). When Steve Jobs was CEO, it was exponentially lower. Would Steve have moved the company to this point... maybe? We'll never know, because he didn't.

      Stock price going down every time Tim Cook goes on stage? That's funny. I'm an Apple stock holder and every 3 months the stock jumps up, plus I get a sweet dividend. I'll assume you mean the downturn back in 2015 since that's the only thing you can point towards. If you were a long term investor before 2015, or an investor since then. OR EVEN AN INVESTOR RIGHT BEFORE THE STOCK TANKED... you're laughing at your post since AAPL is up way beyond the normal market and almost double what it was at its lowest point in 2015. There is literally no argument that having Apple stock is a bad thing, unless you sold in 2015 when price to earnings for Apple was 9 while Amazon was at 100.

      What happens in the future? I have no idea. Neither do you. Maybe you forgot that Apple is 10% away from being the first TRILLION dollar company on the planet, aside from shady russian businesses that is.

    7. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by TimHunter · · Score: 1

      Driving a great company into the ground take time. Let's see how Apple is doing in another 10 years.

      So Apple will fail in 10 years therefore Cook is a bad CEO today? That dog won't hunt.

      By the way other stocks at record highs include MS and also Yahoo. Remember them?

      So because MS and Yahoo failed, therefore Apple will fail? Another non-hunting dog. Apple will almost certainly decline over time. It's the nature of the tech business. You could point to IBM, Honeywell, Dell, Digital Equipment, DEC, etc., as well. Apple may fail because of a failure in leadership, and the leader may be Cook, but we don't know that for sure and we can't predict the time or the reason.

      Right now Apple is making money for its investors and suppliers and employing a lot of people. Those are indicators of a successful CEO. There's a lot of CEOs out there (mostly Apple competitors) that wish they were doing as well.

    8. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by SlayerofGods · · Score: 1

      You don't seem to realize that those stick tickers already back factor in stock splits.
      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a...
      Apple's stock remained resilient as traders came to terms with the death of Steve Jobs, the company's iconic co-founder and chairman. After see-sawing through much of Thursday's session, shares in Apple (AAPL) slipped 0.2 percent, or 88 cents, to close at $377.37.
      Your calculation is WAY off. Apple's stock has done good but it hasn't done THAT good.

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    9. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      So Apple will fail in 10 years therefore Cook is a bad CEO today? That dog won't hunt. ..snip...
      So because MS and Yahoo failed, therefore Apple will fail? Another non-hunting dog.

      No. Not at all. I made no hypothesis or prediction what so ever. I said that based on what you wrote you can't prove he's a good CEO. Now you've gone right into the next logical fallacy and not only put words in my mouth but in doing so yet again attempted to prove a negative.

      Right now Apple is making money for its investors and suppliers and employing a lot of people.

      Yep just like Yahoo did right until it ceased existing. A company making money for its investors is dependent on a wide array of variables, none of which directly point to how "good" a CEO is. The job of a CEO is to drive long term future strategy. The evaluation of that CEO takes many years and extends to several years after their tenure with some key exceptions, dramatic shifts in market. That can be analysed in the short term. I.e. When Apple stopped producing childish fluro coloured products and started producing serious products, creating an entire market for itself in 2 categories, and boosting its earnings and market share in the early 2000s it was a short term indication of a good CEO.

      Since Jobs died Apple has changed and innovated nothing effectively pointing to Cook as being a CEO who specialises in only keeping wheels turning. This puts them on a slow path of analysis and we won't know for a long time if he was good or bad.

    10. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by TimHunter · · Score: 1

      Urp. You're right. Thanks for the lesson.

      Let's do the numbers again. On the day Jobs died AAPL closed at the adjusted-for-split price of $54.04. Today it closed at $173.80. That's a 221% increase. By comparison, on 10/5/2011 the Dow-Jones index closed at 10939.95. Today it closed at 23439.70, for an increase of 114%. Clearly AAPL has outperformed the market.

      My point still stands. Stock price is a valid measurement of CEO effectiveness, and by that measure Tim Cook is very effective.

    11. Re:Should Apple find another CEO? by TimHunter · · Score: 1

      Let's recap. OP said

      There seems to be no evidence that Tim Cook is able to lead Apple.

      You said

      based on what you wrote you can't prove he's a good CEO.

      I offer two objective measurements, stock price and number of iPhones sold, that demonstrate that Tim Cook is an good CEO. I could've added other ways to evaluate him, such as the increase in the number of employees, Cook's support for privacy rights, LGBT rights, and renewable energy.

      Your response is that

      Driving a great company into the ground take time. Let's see how Apple is doing in another 10 years.

      What are we supposed to take away from that? That we can't evaluate how good Tim Cook is as Apple CEO for another decade? What evidence can you show right now that Tim Cook is (or may be) driving Apple into the ground? Cook's been CEO for over 6 years. He has a track record. Based on that track record we have every reason to expect that he'll continue to be a good CEO.

      By the way other stocks at record highs include MS and also Yahoo. Remember them?

      As I said before, it is the nature of the tech industry for successful companies to gradually decline. Apple isn't immune. Other than that general observation, the decline of MS and Yahoo have nothing to do with if or how Apple may succeed or fail in the future.

  11. Electronic penis extension gets shrinkage by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    George Costanza would have had one.

    1. Re:Electronic penis extension gets shrinkage by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      See my post above.

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  12. Not News by nt8d09 · · Score: 1

    This so SO not news, my current and previous two iPhones couldn't stand temps in the 40s for more than a few minute, before they started complaining it was "Too Cold" and stopped working. Took at least 10 minutes at 60-70 degrees to get it back to a working warm temp.

    1. Re:Not News by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      Damn. If the temps are in the 40s it's already too hot for me. I guess iPhones like it really hot.

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    2. Re:Not News by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      40s is only too hot if you don't understand different systems of measurement.

  13. I tried feeding mine after midnight... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    did not go well.

  14. Good test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    These articles are a good test of how many juvenile assholes are on here.

  15. Job's curse is true! Apple is doomed... by Idisagree · · Score: 1

    Apparently Steve's last words were 'I'll give you my phone when you pry it from my cold, dead hands" also you are holding it wrong!

  16. Early adopters by zifn4b · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Apple is working on a fix for the newly release iPhone X. It appears that the touch screen can become unresponsive when the iPhone is subjected to cold weather.

    Thank you to everyone who paid $1,000 to get the new iPhone X. What you don't know is you joined an exclusive club. You joined Apple's Early Adopter Quality Assurance Team. Thank you for helping discover all the problems their QA couldn't so that if the rest of us ever decide to upgrade we will get a better product.

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    1. Re:Early adopters by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, it especially sucks given this product that’s just getting into people’s hands in late autumn. And of course their in-house early adopters won’t catch this because they live in Cupertino and think 55F is “chilly”.

      I learned the downside of being an early adopter of Apple kit back in 2003, when I bought the brand new FW 800 Aluminum G4 PowerBook. I loved that computer... but didn’t love the fact that Apple had to replace the display three different times due to the “white spot” issue. Apple has always been great for me with regards to service... but I don’t personally want a great warranty that I have to use repeatedly.

      So thank you, beta testers for giving Apple your $1200 so the rest of us can have a better product in 2020!

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    2. Re:Early adopters by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      I thought that was obvious.

      That's why I chose the iPhone 8. TouchID is fantastically responsive now. Hope they keep the button in future spins.

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    3. Re:Early adopters by Megane · · Score: 1

      The worst part about those Aluminum PowerBooks (both G4 and Intel) was the completely crappy case. The optical drive would inevitably get out of alignment with the slot in the case and the disk would jam when it tried to eject. I had three Aluminum models over the years. The Unibody were a lot better, but the keyboards do go bad after a while, and the trackpad stops clicking properly when enough gunk slips under the edge. Oh yeah, and that little situation with Nvidia making fucked-up chips.

      One of my Intel ones had a bad screen that got replaced with a full HD display, presumably because that was all Apple had for spare parts. I wasn't exactly happy about the higher resolution (I do not have high-definition eyes any more), but at least it worked. Then at some point it developed a bad column driver, and there would be a red vertical stripe in the middle of the screen. I could usually massage it with my thumbnail, but when I resurrected it out of parts from an old one a friend gave to me a few months ago, the line would no longer go away. But now it's the rare higher-resolution screen, and the same size as the Unibody 17" that I am still using, so I'm leaving it in.

      I don't remember anything about a "white spot" issue, but maybe that's the real reason they replaced mine with a full HD.

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    4. Re:Early adopters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes... "early adoptors"... Tech that has been perfected on android since 2014!

      https://www.androidauthority.com/sharp-aquos-crystal-review-540726/

      so despite being tech from 2014, Apple customers are "early" adopters of it in 2017! ... Well.. I guess.. since its only 3 yearas old and not 4.. then it is scary for both Apple and its customers... Welcome to 2014, Apple's early adopters... the other Apple people.. welcome to 2013 or earlier!

  17. Unresponsive when cold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I get that way also

  18. Re:The iPhone X is such a disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your an idiot!

  19. Update has been scheduled! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Expect a fix for this sometime next spring.

  20. Only affects those living in the wrong climate by Coisiche · · Score: 4, Funny

    Much like some were apparently wrongly holding an earlier version of the iPhone, clearly some customers of the latest version are living in the wrong climate and they should relocate in order to get a better Apple experience.

  21. Re: The iPhone X is such a disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Face ID works fine. Is only slightly slower to unlock than Touch ID. It works fine at a range of distances that a phone would normally be used at. TouchID wouldnâ(TM)t have worked in the keynote either as the phone had just been restarted. Reviews say that they get used to the lack of home button very quickly. Interesting that the green line of death only started happening when they started using the Samsung oled screen (and Samsung phones also do a pink version). If the cold issue only requires a lock and unlock, which thanks to Face ID just requires looking at it, and can be fixed with a software update then itâ(TM)s not a major problem.

  22. Fortunately they don't blow up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and catch on fire. Unlike Samsung phones.

    But at least Samsung phones are warm?

    1. Re:Fortunately they don't blow up by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      That happened to a handful of one product line of Samsung phone. This is an issue for the entire population of the Iphone X model.

      It's hard to believe no environmental evaluation is done for a product that has to meet the conditions of use that a cellphone endures. They should have at least done evaluations at +30, 0, and -40 degrees C. A fricking $6 dashbord switch in a GM automobile has to meet standards like that before the design is signed off, let alone released for manufacture.

    2. Re:Fortunately they don't blow up by viperidaenz · · Score: 0

      A phone shouldn't be expected to work in extreme cold, unless it doesn't use a lithium battery. You can't charge them below zero and the colder you get, the lower the discharge rate must be before damage occurs. The capacity drops too, at -20 degrees the battery will only have half its rated capacity.

      That's why EV's have heaters in their batteries so they can be used in cold environments.

      Having said that, a phone should work in 40 degree heat without issue, or you wouldn't be able put on in your pocket on a hot day, or in an inside pocket in a good jacket on a cold day. It would easily exceed 30 degrees.

    3. Re:Fortunately they don't blow up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did "it can can become unresponsive when the iPhone is subjected to cold weather" become "extreme cold?

      Toronto is a fairly large city (2.8 million) and it does go below -20C there. So when you need a phone to call a cab it doesnt work, yet other phones dont have this issue?

      Did you read the article where they are saying a software update will resolve this? Does that mean this is a software or hardware problem?

  23. According to Apple by jader3rd · · Score: 1

    That's what you get for not living in San Francisco.

    1. Re:According to Apple by pauljlucas · · Score: 1

      That's what you get for not living in San Francisco.

      Clearly you do not. If you did (like I do), you would know that one typically has to go out wearing a jacket and hat -- in July.

      BTW: Apple is in Cupertino, about 40 miles south of San Francisco, where it is about 10 degrees (F) warmer.

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  24. So does my .... by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

    So does my.... (Insert

    girlfriend/boyfriend/wife/husband/japanese sex doll,
    depending on your proclivities. )

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    1. Re:So does my .... by dissy · · Score: 1

      You should of opted for the industrial japanese sex robot. Those things are rated to remain functional down to -30C

  25. No "your mom" jokes? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    No "your mom" jokes? This place isn't what it used to be.

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    1. Re:No "your mom" jokes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your momma is so ugly that her iphone broke when trying to categorize pictures of herself.

    2. Re:No "your mom" jokes? by hyades1 · · Score: 1

      I swear to you I was thinking along those lines, but none of the comments really deserved it.

      Something like, "If your iToy gets too cold, just tell your Mom you need it smuggled into prison and give her five minutes alone with it.

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  26. Re:The iPhone X is such a disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You forgot the speaker problems
    https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/several-iphone-x-owners-experiencing-crackling-or-buzzing-sounds-from-earpiece-speaker.2087816/
    and faceid fails
    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Security-firm-beats-Face-ID-with-a-mask_id99744

    apple taking others tech and making it better; isnt that the standard apple worshippers position

  27. The fix by ledow · · Score: 3, Funny

    if(temperature 10)
          run_background_task(bitcoin_miner);

    1. Re:The fix by ledow · · Score: 1

      Fucking Slashdot, nearly 2018 and it still can't do characters properly, when even several-year-old-already competitors using the same codebase can.

      There was a < "less than" in there somewhere.

    2. Re:The fix by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      That's a different problem than UTF-8, though. The character probably got removed by an HTML filter.

      For future reference, you need to write &lt; to get <

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    3. Re:The fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do: if(Math.min(temperature, 10) != 10) run_background_task(bitcoin_miner);

    4. Re:The fix by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      There was a < "less than" in there somewhere.

      You could do it the second time, well done!

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    5. Re:The fix by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Okay, but how do I write &lt; if it gets converted to a < ???

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    6. Re:The fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      &amp;lt;

      See Escape characters.

    7. Re:The fix by FFOMelchior · · Score: 1

      &lt; should work.

  28. Next Upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will be the iBlanket, in order to keep warm your iPhone.

  29. So does my current phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's your point?

  30. Umm... doesn't get too cold in California, right? by King_TJ · · Score: 1

    That's my guess.... Apple testers didn't take cold weather into account since they don't really have it there.

  31. Fix is already on the way. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple just announced, it has fixed the problem. It is a sleek white heater case, iMitten sold separately for 79$. It will keep the phone at the recommended operating temperature. After market replacement heater jackets are not recommended, it would void the warranty.

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    1. Re:Fix is already on the way. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm waiting for the remote version. I'll start my phone heater when I start my car.

  32. Details, details. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    The link helps people remember some details.

  33. Re:Umm... doesn't get too cold in California, righ by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

    I think they don't even know there's such things as "cold weather", "no ocean view" or "too expensive". They're all rich assholes full of themselves.

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  34. Real amateur hour stuff here by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 2

    Right up there with an antenna that short-circuited when held wrong (remember that?).

    I remember when the extra 50% plus you paid for an Apple device over anyone else bought you quality of construction and good design. That was over a decade ago. These days? Keyboards on laptops with missing keys, phone screens that break or just plain don't work. But the fanboys will keep on fanboying, that I'm sure of.

  35. ObJobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you're cooling it wrong

  36. Re: The iPhone X is such a disaster by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    I can't say I understand what the point is. The problem with touch ID was that it was clumsy and slow, so they replaced it with something that is more expensive and clumsy and slow? Doesn't seem logical at all. It seems to be something that should have been held back until it actually worked smoothly and therefore solved the original problem.

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  37. Re: The iPhone X is such a disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Face ID works fine. Is only slightly slower to unlock than Touch ID.

    A regression, but only a slight regression so we can still call it innovation. Praise Apple.

    Reviews say that they get used to the lack of home button very quickly.

    You get used to pretty much anything you use on that much of a regular basis, that's hardly an endorsement of it being a good thing.

    Interesting that the green line of death only started happening when they started using the Samsung oled screen (and Samsung phones also do a pink version).

    A new courageous addition to the Apple apologist playbook: address a legitimate complaint by simply lowering the bar of quality, i.e. if it's no worse than Samsung it must be good!

  38. Re:The iPhone X is such a disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I didn't forget about those, I simply hadn't heard about them yet. Did hear about siblings "breaking" Face ID before - turns out Apple wasn't joking when they said not to use it if you had siblings!

  39. older iPhones useless below -30F by creschke · · Score: 5, Informative

    I used to ski with an iPhone 6s in my the breast pocket of a synthetic puffy jacket worn under a GoreTex shell and over at least two other layers. When temps dropped below -30F, I regularly experienced problems with the phone claiming to me overheating before shutting itself down when I pulled it out for a photo. No good idea of the temp inside that pocket, but it seems likely it was well above -30F. Expose to the ambient air was 1 minute before the "overheating" message appeared. Take home? Don't rely on an iPhone for back country navigation in the winter!

    1. Re:older iPhones useless below -30F by Megane · · Score: 1

      Numeric underflow on a temperature sensor? It never goes below 0F in Cupertino, so that can't possibly happen.

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    2. Re:older iPhones useless below -30F by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to see that all the time while walking the dog in the snow if I tried to take photos. I assumed the actual error was "temperature outside of operating range, shutting down" and it was inconceivable to someone in San Francisco that the phone might be exposed to *below* operating temperature, hence they chose a dumb error message.

    3. Re:older iPhones useless below -30F by cyn1c77 · · Score: 1

      I have also had this problem. It was completely useless in any cold outdoor environment.

    4. Re:older iPhones useless below -30F by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto. This iPhone 6s will be my last Apple purchase. Never again.

  40. Apple is afraid being sued by Samsung .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. for using "Hot battery" technology.

    1. Re:Apple is afraid being sued by Samsung .. by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Samsung was the first to market with a heated phone defroster. Perhaps the only example of actual creativity from Samsung.

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    2. Re:Apple is afraid being sued by Samsung .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still 1 more thing than Apple.

  41. Not just this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most if not all dont like cold weather :(

  42. Re: The iPhone X is such a disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "A regression, but only a slight regression so we can still call it innovation. Praise Apple."
    If you're really so busy that an extra half second is causing you problems, then you must be in the kind of job that can afford to have a PA follow you around.

  43. Re: The iPhone X is such a disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the most expensive iPhone ever made. It shouldn't be a half-second slower at ANYTHING at that price.

  44. Re: The iPhone X is such a disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're really so busy that an extra half second is causing you problems, then you must be in the kind of job that can afford to have a PA follow you around.

    Wasting half a second on something you do so frequently adds up, phones are being used more and more these days so something as fundamental as unlock is important to do quickly. If you waste half a second on a task you do 60 times a day that's 3 hours a year. Yes the apologists will argue "oh but you waste x here and y there" because it's just impossible to admit Apple could introduce a regression, Apple says Face Unlock is good and it is a feature and is better than TouchID therefore it must be. Praise Apple.

  45. LOOO by future+assassin · · Score: 1

    oooooool

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  46. Re: Umm... doesn't get too cold in California, rig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... or slow internet. Especially apparent in their approaches to keeping multiple devices synced. Never mind the devices are sitting next to each other on the same WiFi network, lets force one device to upload all of its photos / notes / whatever to the internet in order for the other devices to subsequently download it back from the internet. Rather than being able to sync photos at local network speeds, weâ(TM)re limited to our internet connectionâ(TM)s max upload speed, in my case 1Mbs on a very good day.

  47. Apple Double X Edition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It would be more appropriate if a dead iPhone shows up with two green lines criss-crossing each other.

  48. +5, Funny by BronsCon · · Score: 0

    Why did the iPhone X stop responding?

    It was too cool to care about your input.

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    1. Re:+5, Funny by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      I expected this... and the downmod, do be honest. I never preface my actual jokes with such an obvious subject.

      Hell, I have yo burn all this karma somehow.

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  49. Misleading headline by nneonneo · · Score: 1

    The headline on Slashdot is misleading - as the snippet says, locking and unlocking the device will restore the touchscreen. My guess (having worked on capacitive touch systems) is that the touchscreen doesn't properly recalibrate on a sudden temperature change, resulting in loss of touch detection until the touchscreen recalibrates (which happens every time you unlock the phone). This is easily fixed by a software or firmware change, and has a fairly simple workaround in the meantime.

    Unlike what most commenters seem to assume, the phone is not suddenly unusable in the cold - just click the power button to lock the phone and click it again to unlock. Takes less than 2 seconds, after which you can go back to scrolling Facebook in the bitter cold.

    1. Re:Misleading headline by mvdwege · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The headline is completely fine. The phone does become unresponsive. That there is a workaround that keeps you fanbois from admitting there is a problem does not change the actual, you know, facts.

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  51. 6 plus does this. by lindseyp · · Score: 1

    I've had two separate iPhone 6 plus phones where the screen just goes unresponsive to touch, and the fix is just to lock and unlock it again.

    This is at room temperature, no need for cold weather.

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  52. More about recent management of Apple by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Good point. This is an example of a common problem of understanding management. Who is responsible for Apple's success? What part of Apple's success is due to Tim Cook being CEO?

    An extremely important contribution of Steve Jobs was making sure nothing flawed was released. The iPhone 4 was released with antenna problems on June 24, 2010. It was a mistake someone with experience with radio frequency transmission would easily have understood. Steve Jobs died on October 5, 2011, and was not managing long before that. Tim Cook officially became CEO of Apple on August 24, 2011.

    Since then, management of Apple has apparently become far more sloppy, For example: iPhone X Is Everything Wrong With Tim Cook's Apple

    Here are problems mentioned in that article:

    1) Announced before being ready.

    2) "Stop and ask what real world problems the iPhone X answers. There are a lot of cute answers but on a practical sense the iPhone X offers very little on top of the iPhone 8 or iPhone 8 Plus, which in turn are only incremental bumps over last year's models."

    3) Product confusion: "Now it takes a ridiculous amount of research and comparison to find the iPhone that may suit your needs, and there is not a single device that offers all of features in a single package - every iPhone has some form of limitation and restriction designed into it."

    To me, that looks like poor overall management. There is sloppiness that didn't exist when Steve Jobs was in control. Steve Jobs was far from perfect; he had wacky ideas about health care, for example: Steve Jobs 'regretted trying to beat cancer with alternative medicine for so long'.

    Jobs was known for delivering an excellent customer experience. That's what made Apple different from competitors.

    1. Re:More about recent management of Apple by TimHunter · · Score: 2

      Thanks for the link to the Forbes article. Let's talk about those problems you mention:

      1) Announced before being ready. This is SOP in the business. It's called "marketing." The Essential Phone was announced in May, missed its June ship date, missed its July ship date, and finally became available in late August. The Galaxy S8 was announced on March 29 with availability almost a month later, April 21. When other folks do it, it's okay, but when Apple does it, it's bad?

      2) What real world problems does the iPhone X answer? Strawman argument. Why does an iPhone have to answer "real world" problems? What "real world" problems does the Galaxy S8 answer? What about the Pixel 2? Do Apple products have to answer "real world" problems when other smartphones just have to, you know, be smartphones? In any case, it seems to me that one "real world" problem it answers is that Apple wants a new product to sell. Selling phones is how they make money. And a really important measure of a successful CEO (we're talking about CEOs, remember?) is when the company they lead makes a profit.

      3) Product confusion. Puh-lease. Let's see, right now Apple is selling the SE, 6S, 7, 8, and X. The 6S, 7, and 8 also come in a Plus model. I don't even know how to begin comparing its competitors. I don't even know the names of all the competitors. Samsung, LG, Essential, who else?

      And before we go too far down the road toward a Steve Jobs hagiography, let's take a minute to think about the G3 Cube, the Apple III, the ROKR, MobileMe, etc. Nobody argues that Jobs was perfect. Let's not argue that Cook must be perfect in order to be successful.

    2. Re:More about recent management of Apple by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

      1) I agree. The other companies are often worse at communicating.

      It is difficult to understand the underlying issues because it is difficult to get basic information. For example, the book Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson is often useless. I found little evidence in the book that Isaacson knows about technology, or has an interest in knowing.

      Steve Jobs was often excellent at communicating. I don't see evidence of that understanding of the need to communicate clearly in the Apple of today.

      2) The success of Apple is partly due to an amazingly self- and other-destructive failure by Google. Cell phone companies could use Google Android, but prevent updates! The cell phone company message: Want to avoid newly discovered vulnerabilities? Buy a new phone and throw the original phone away; we want easy money.

      Apple didn't do that: Update the iOS on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch.

      Another reason for Apple's success is due to social issues. In many countries, if you don't have the latest iPhone, you are considered a poor person, or socially inferior.

      Underlying that is the fact that having a cell phone gives many advantages. Part of what has made Apple so rich is that having a cell phone is worth a considerable amount of money because it makes life more efficient.

      3) I agree. All the cell phone companies have arranged product confusion for themselves.

  53. not good in winter overall by golden_donkey · · Score: 1

    I have used many phones with different operating systems - Symbian, Windows (old and new), Blackberry OS, Android and currently iOS. The iPhone has the most unreliable battery during winter overall. Was in Warsaw this weekend and used the navigation app. At one point percentage came down from 50% - 60% to about 30%. I went to hotel plugged the phone to charge and saw 50% again. During the summer the battery meter will gradually go down in winter it is very hectic. Sometimes during winter I will try to take a picture with battery in the 30% - 40% range and it will shut down. I will go home plug in the phone and see that i still have 30%. A friend who has iPhone 6 reports similar issues during winter.

  54. 24 hours by sad_ · · Score: 2

    none of the 24 hour reviewers noticed this problem? how is this possible?! They had their hands on the phone for a full 24 hours!

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  55. Russia proof design by Neuroelectronic · · Score: 1

    really creative and bround greaking, actually. Another win for apple.

  56. Global warming by Pascoea · · Score: 1
    Good thing global warming will fix this issue eventually. Maybe that is the "future update" they are referring to.

    Apple stated that it is aware of the issue and it will be addressed in a future update.

  57. Re:Umm... doesn't get too cold in California, righ by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    Certainly they understand cold. The problem is, their "cold" is 65F.

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  58. Easy fix! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a Samsung Galaxy Note 7 to keep it warm! *scnr*

  59. Same as iPhone 8 by AKCoder · · Score: 1

    So... same issue as the iPhone 8s...here in Alaska.

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  60. effing Californians....... by inerlogic · · Score: 1

    i'll stick to my more advanced Galaxy S6

  61. cold and unresponsive.... by inerlogic · · Score: 1

    great, Apple made my ex-wife.....

  62. It doesn't rain in California by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Apparently it doesn't get cold either LOL.

  63. How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How did they fuck it up?
    Misconfiguration of the touchscreen h/w, like too low voltage or something?
    Deliberate "feature" that misbehaved?

  64. Each story like this lowers company reputation. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    Another example of sloppy management at Apple? Hackers Say They've Broken Face ID a Week After iPhone X Release.

    Is body ID a good idea? Maybe not: Flight diverted after woman discovers her husband is cheating on her. Her husband was sleeping. She pressed the phone on his fingers.

  65. Know what else gets to be unresponsive when cold? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Know what else gets to be unresponsive when cold?

    My penis.

    It had to be said, might as well be said by me.

  66. Your holding it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your supposed to put it next to your knutsak when it's cold. Jeez...

  67. Cache Cleaner for Android by dluxseo · · Score: 1

    The Device cleaner goes through the phone and cleans the system memory, improves phone or tablet performance, and improves battery life. And the best part is, it's completely free. There are other ram faster apps out there, but usually most users simply add layers of complication to a process that you do not need. Not a power user, just want a faucet solution to speed up the phone. ram cleaner without ads is exactly that. Just fire up the app and touch the Boost. https://play.google.com/store/...

  68. And by NewYork · · Score: 1

    The iPhone X Also Becomes Unresponsive When It Sees FBI/CIA/NSA

  69. Insufficient management at Apple? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    More evidence of insufficient management at Apple:

    iPhone X Owners Complain About Distortion, Crackling Sounds From Earpiece

    It's important that this issue not become off-topic. All that is being theorized is that Apple CEO Tim Cook, like almost everyone, is not sufficiently capable of being the top-level manager of a huge company like Apple.

    Is the iPhone X face ID a good idea? Watch a 10-Year-Old's Face Unlock His Mom's iPhone X

  70. Semiconductors, read the friggin manual by MercTech · · Score: 1

    According to Apple, iPhones have an operating temperature ambient situated between 32 and 95 Fahrenheit, that's 0 and 35 Celsius. The manufacturer also provides information about a non-operating temperature interval ranging between -4 to 113 F, that's -20 to 45 C.Nov 29, 2014

    Liquid crystal displays fade to unreadable around -20F and become totally black around 105F. Both temperatures can be experienced working outside in some of the Rocky Mountain regions. In winter, the phone is kept in a t-shirt pocket inside the warm clothes and will work for a few minutes after removing. In summer, you keep your phone in a zip lock bag in the cooler full of water bottles.

    If you really need a wider temperature range on a phone; you go with a Panasonic Tough Phone
    https://panasonicbts.factoryoutletstore.com/details/154793/panasonic-fz-e1bbcazzm.html?category_id=52208&catalogitemid=137947

    Come to think of it, with the high price of the walled garden phone that is the iPhone X; the $1800 for a tough phone doesn't look as ridiculous as it once did.

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