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Facebook To Show Users Which Russian Propaganda They Followed (bloomberg.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg: Facebook will show people which Russian propaganda pages or accounts they've followed and liked on the social network, responding to a request from Congress to address manipulation and meddling during the 2016 presidential election. The tool will appear by the end of the year in Facebook's online support center, the company said in a blog post Wednesday. It will answer the user question, "How can I see if I've liked or followed a Facebook page or Instagram account created by the Internet Research Agency?" That's the Russian firm that created thousands of incendiary posts from fake accounts posing as U.S. citizens. People will see a list of the accounts they followed, if any, from January 2015 through August 2017. Facebook will only be showing people the names of the pages and accounts, not the content. A user will only see what they liked or followed, so if they simply saw IRA content in their news feeds, they won't be notified.
If these pages really did influence the election, maybe we're just not ready for democracy ( democratically elected republic...whatever ).
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
Unsealed court documents reveal that the firm behind the salacious 34-page Trump-Russia Dossier, Fusion GPS, was paid $523,000 by a Russian businessman convicted of tax fraud and money laundering, whose lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, was a key figure in the infamous June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower arranged by Fusion GPS associate Rob Goldstone.
In short, D.C. opposition research firm Fusion GPS is the common denominator linked to two schemes used to damage the Trump campaign.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...
More transparency is a good thing.
If Facebook wants their platform to be taken seriously as a place for discussion they need to start doing this will all the organizations that try to use it for the purpose of spreading propaganda. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
haven't they suffered enough
Along with Nation in Distress? anytime something happens my Trump friends always share crap from these pages which just happen to have anonymous whois records along with their stupid names
Witch Hunt: Russia Edition
Boogeymen are everywhere.
This is really getting out of control, freedom of speech is under attack.
But still voted for Trump. Strange that.
The Russian budget is negligible compared to them, and they have a much bigger interest in me too.
Frankly, the number 1 threat to the USA is the corporaze oligarch government itself.
Just like the number 1 threat to Russia is their own oligarchy too.
Or is this not about that at all, but rather because with the Internet it is impossible to hate Americans/Russians because of so much proof that people there are just as much normal people as we are, and that prevents the US vs THEM narrative from working that is required to make a profit from mass-murder (wars).
And can it show us antifa, and Ford and ...
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Now we've moved on to compelled speech. For all those that say "Facebook is a private company" look at who is telling them to do this. We have the government telling a private company "you need to regulate speech on your platform or else" with a wink and a nod.
The ârepresentativesâoe are all lobbyists nowadays, and maybe always have been. They represent only a minute amount of the most powerful, or themselves. Not you, not the population.
And everyone on the ballot, works for that same team. At least everyone we haven't been made to find laughable and without a chance.
This is a corporate oligarchy.
So unless you are "fatcat" too and do not count most Americans as citizens, this is not a democracy.
And psychology suggests that because the type of personality that wants to work for / represent other people and the type of personality that wants to rule and lead the way are mutually exclusive opposites. Even hormonally.
So it can only be a democracy, if it is direct.
Not that democracy is necessarily a good idea, if you look at what is upvoted on social media sites.
"That's the Russian firm that created thousands of incendiary posts from fake accounts posing as U.S. citizens" This shit is stupid Oh you mean they spent $77 on tweetattackpro and went to town... ::)
http://www.tweetattackspro.com...
or the hundred other clones of tweet attack...
[($)]
And, the more things change...
Interesting how "the usual suspects" openly scoffed at accusations of Russian propaganda when the purported Russian propaganda was in support of their causes.
Back then, the Russian propaganda was mostly along political lines, supporting whoever was most sympathetic to Communism. Now, Russia being nationalist and not Communist these days, and not so much pushing an ideological line, their propaganda is more like "How much can we screw them up?" So when the Left's ox gets mauled by the Russian bear... Suddenly, what was an object of derision ("The '80s called, they want their foreign policy back") becomes A Clear And Present Danger.
I wonder what could screw us up more than Trump in the White House... And the left says "Hold my joint."
How the tables have turned.
Is facebook now the thought police? why are they only targeting Russian propaganda? why cant they show me when i have liked or followed ANY propaganda?
Oh wait, its because they have their own political agenda.... The board should be sacked along with all C suite executives at they no longer are interested in maximizing returns for their shareholders. They have instead opted to use their influence to try and sway popular opinion, its a bold strategy but not one that will maximize returns as it is based on the personal beliefs of people instead of a rational analysis of the market direction. That and they should know that to pick a side in any battle is strategically risky as it may not be the side that wins in the long term.
The EC is fine. The biggest problem is that we need more viable parties, and with First Past the Post that's just not going to happen. This massive partisan divide that we have is completely artificial. This country mostly agrees on things, except for a few specific issues. However, running on an "everything's fine" campaign doesn't get anyone elected, so we campaign on wedge issues.
I've heard it said that America required an existential external threat in order to function properly, that an overarching national crisis was required to elevate all of us above our partisan bickering. It's suggestive at least that the Hastert Rule was adopted after the breakup of the Soviet Union. However, today we have nothing left but wedge issues and team politics.
This is a mathematical weakness of our democracy, that we can only accommodate two political stripes at a time. There are actually more distinct points of view out there, which are not enjoying separate representation. From what I've read, there are at least six "real" parties in this country.There are assuredly dangers of multi-party systems, but it's apparently all-too-easy for one powerful individual to hijack a political party for their own ends: both major candidates did so last election, in different ways.
The right solution here is to use some other voting method: IRV, range voting, approval voting, whatever. It doesn't require changing the Constitution or the Electoral College, but it does require teaching math concepts to the U.S. electorate and convincing the courts that this doesn't violate "one man, one vote".
Those who advocate genocide deserve every protection afforded by law, and none afforded by common human decency.
All fair in love and war they tell me, so I think that all such Propaganda should be clearly labeled so the sheeple know where its from
Except :
One pro-Trump Facebook ad called for the "removal of Hillary Clinton from the presidential ballot" while another blamed Black Lives Matter for a "gruesome attack on police". Meanwhile, a fake gay rightsâ(TM) account praised Bernie Sanders as a "hero", and an anti-Trump profile advertised a "not my president" rally after the election, which attracted interest from nearly 50,000 people on Facebook and said: "Racism won, Ignorance won, Sexual assault won ⦠STOP TRUMP!"
https://www.theguardian.com/te...
People still aren't getting it. Or are being purposefully obtuse to try and keep the "Russia!" panic alive and try to paint Trump in a bad light. If he's such a bad president and bad person, why do you people even need to make stuff up to defame him ?
The only thing creating division in the U.S. right now is not the President, it's all the #RESIST BS that keeps shoving "Russia!" hysteria and spinning everything the President does as negative. It's gotten so bad that if the man cured Cancer tomorrow, he'd be accused of putting Oncologists out of a job.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
Anonymous Coward on Monday August 04, @06:49PM
About time.
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FB lied and denied, but now you can trust them. Believe me!
I'm still waiting for the actual evidence that russian collusion is the reason why trump won the election. All we have is "anonymous sources" with nothing concrete the that fake news keeps reporting on over and over and over again. I guess this is an attempt at providing legitimacy to the unproven claims because, hey, "action" is being taken so it MUST be a foregone proven fact.... except that it isn't.
I don't think the pervert congress and facebook realize that social media doesn't hold as much power over people's minds as they think it does. The trash nearly everyone in the entertainment industry posts on social media is far more propagandistic than anything coming from russia. I see a bunch of sore losers who still can't let it go that they lost.
See subject: My hats off to you RedK - I couldn't have said it better myself (especially after both Van Jones & John Bonnifield of CNN said the 'russian narrative' was TOTAL bullshit - now Zucker's OUT there too (figures, we KNOW who HE represents)).
* LOL - those chumps can't STAND they lost (it upset their kabal's plans is why).
Read "HIGHER CIRCLES" people & KNOW how the world out there REALLY works (IF You can find it that is).
APK
P.S.=> Excellent job man... apk
See subject & JUST A TASTE of what I noted in my post I am replying to http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Book_Excerpts/HigherCircles_PE.html/
* Get used to it folks - it IS, the REAL world (that both JFK & Eisenhower warned us of).
(MOST IMPORTANT PART? Break the family, you break resistance & good guidance a father gives out of love for his own tribe/cubs/woman - creates 2 sets of bills leaving no legacy for most family's children, men that aren't RAISED BY MEN (creating what I call "not men flimsors", lol) & destroys a nation in the way of the TRUE wannabe ruler power cabal).
APK
P.S.=> It's changing though - Thank Goodness for President Trump! apk
In Mother USA, You dont watch facebook, Facebook watches you!
An "Am I stupid and/or gullible?" button!
Damn genius. This should be standard. Like new years day every user gets to see how many paid-for-posts they peddled for free!
You are being ripped off every second of every day, so that advertisers can help rip you off even more tomorrow.
Or EU propaganda? No, we call that "news" here.
The House of Representatives is not representative of the country. From Article 1, Section 2 of the Constitution:
"The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty thousand, but each state shall have at least one Representative"
We currently have 435 representatives for 323.1 million people. That is one representative for every 742,758 people. This is off by more than a factor of 20.
While it does not exceed one for every thirty thousand, it fails miserably to represent the population distribution of the country. The whole point of the bicameral system was to have one house represent the States equally, while the other represented the population.
I was thinking of a new meme to illustrate how ridiculous and tragic social media combined with politics has become. Many comments here are scary.
mfwright@batnet.com
However, Facebook recently decided to hold my account hostage against me giving them my mobile phone. Sadly, with no mobile phone, the 5 year old account will likely remain locked. The funny thing is, going cold-turkey on facebook is like any addiction: painful and traumatic the first day, then less and less so. Just say no to Facebook, then you don't have to worry about Russian propaganda telling you to vote for this or that bunch of crooked politicians.
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Can we get the same feature for other propaganda as well? Chinese propaganda, american propaganda, and most importantly: Corporate propaganda.
According to WP:
Propaganda is information that is not objective and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information that is presented.
That describes just about any advertisement or political statement made by any politician during the past decade.
We are being manipulated constantly, from all sides. My profession is information security, so I have a lot of exposure to "evil russians". Here's a consistent pattern that I've noticed again and again and again, and I'm beginning to believe that it applies to the russian infowar approach as well: Russian methods are more obvious, more transparent. Might be less experience or a reduced sensitivity to exposure (Russians distrust their government even more than americans do, and basically assume that all politicians are corrupt anyways, so there's less need to pretend). But once you look past that, there's really not so much difference. Western manipulations, or security attacks, are less obvious, more tricky, spend more resources on appearing as something else or remaining unnoticed. There is also a lot more misdirection in the western approach. But when you look at plain data, the USA is as much an attack source as Russia, if not more so (this recent article lists the USA far ahead of Russia, with Turkey and Brazil ahead of the evil ex-communists).
We are clearly seing a revival of Cold War animosities. Maybe trecking out NK and Iran as the "Axis of Evil" doesn't have the desired effect anymore? Maybe a large event (not necessarily a war, but could be) is being prepared and the public opinion needs to be set up properly first? Or maybe the people in charge are just boneheaded idiots who seriously think that Russia is a big danger, but climate change is a fabrication. No, you cannot possibly be that stupid, you would forget to breathe if you had that much of a brain damage.
But "fake news" isn't news at all, it's been around for hundreds of years. As has been propaganda, and the main source of propaganda, at all times in history, has always been - surprise - your own government. Which is logical, of course. The local/national government has the most to lose or win from your opinion, so they have the greatest interest in influencing it.
So please give us fake news background checks not just for selected sources. The person that writes a Firefox extension that automatically overlays advertisement with fact-checking background information deserves a Nobel prize. The person who hacks the cable broadcast infrastructure to put that on all the TV stations - we'd have to invent a new prize for that person. The manipulations that were done in the name of profit begin to make those done in the name of war appear harmless. Sugar industry, tobacco industry, oil industry - these fuckers are ready to destroy generations of people so their next quarterly earnings reports are good. With such friends, who needs enemies? I personally am much more worried about these guys.
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
Or maybe your education system should add "on-line media", if order to add a tiny bit of critical thinking to all the "pulse-enabled meat-bags" that go through it ?
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
That's what labeled as "Russian propaganda" these days, anyone from Russia having an opinion on a political topic. This is censorship and the effort to forbid you from seeing all sides of the story, and hopefully creating a stupid choir that 1) hates Russia, and 2) eventually hates China, just so the sinking U.S. can try to get sympathetic Europeans to keep the sloop afloat.
You and your cohorts tried for months to claim that "there was no Russian interference, no propaganda". Next it was, "I'm too smart to be fooled by any Russian propaganda so it doesn't matter." Now you've (predictably) shifted your claims to "there was Russian interference but everyone was doing it."
You proclaim your ignorance as wisdom. The Russians saw where you were weak and took full advantage and there's just no way you can admit it. You'd have to admit you were stupid and taken advantage to do that.
Oh, and trying to shift the responsibility to Facebook or any third party is just lame. We all know you'd just claim (and will claim) "Fake News!" when evidence of your gullibility is delivered.
Grow up and take responsibility for your actions. Yet I'll not hold my breath that will ever happen.
Soros funds divisory groups AmiMijo (BLM, Antifa, OpenSocietyFoundation & GOOGLE censoring) NOT Trump - don't be a moron TRAITOR, ok?
APK
P.S.=> QUESTION - How much is George Soros PAYING YOU, or is your welfare being cut off so you "hate Trump", hmmm? apk
I'll preface this by saying I don't like any of them. Fox, CNN, NBC, etc. They all suck. They all have bad opinions on what should lead the news and what's important. Good journalism was killed in the 1980s I think. Taken over by leftists. I say that because I saw it happen in Universities.
Faux news, do you mean CNN, NBC, etc that have been caught outright lying lately? Maybe you STILL believe the Trump/Russia collusion bullshit? I have a sister that still buys that even though she can't point to ANYTHING that was done to prove that. I can point to plenty to show Hillary/Russia collusion. The Uranium deal, the 500 grand they "donated" to her, etc. Podesta was an un-registered agent of Russia.. and on and on and on. Yet I bet you still believe them. So they can tell you another lie.
I know, so many people need protection from the truth. People like you. Go ahead and take another blue pill. Everything is fine. Just let the government run your life, tell you what you can and can't do and then tell you to like it. They know what's good for you after all. Just ask them. Bill Clinton actually said that they know how to spend your money better than you do. You also don't need to think if you listen to MSM. They tell you what to think and do. Kill the police, hate white people, you know - how to be some real bigots and racists.
Let's start with this thought - conservatives believe in change from within. That is, you change. You make yourself better. Liberals can't wait for things like that. They want to tell you what to do, with yourself, your money and if you don't they want to put you in jail, beat you, etc. Just look at the news. Trump didn't send those people to Charlottesville and those other places. The liberals/left did.
I get a big kick out of leftist assholes. Ask them to put their own money towards the BS they're spouting and they won't do it. They want to spend other people's money instead.
BTW, with news - don't listen to just one side. Listen to what fox says, what NBC says, others say. The real truth is probably in there somewhere. They say to believe about half of what you read.
There is little to do in ohio and your salary will double if you move anywhere else. It didn't have to be that way but poor planning has made it that way. I lived there bro. It sucks and my pay doubled when I left, I instantly started working at top companies in cool positions. If I'm mad, I'm mad at myself for not leaving sooner. I'm maybe a little mad at my boss for yammering on about career this and I'm going places while 15 years later he and all my co-workers all have the same jobs.
I remember every degrading lumburgesque chat with my boss, every time my friends gloated about how little our rent was compared to somewhere nice, working my ass off for pathetic promotions. What if I told you I haven't heard a single nasty quip from a boss since I moved away, come to work at 11pm most day and leave at 2. That would have never happened in Ohio. But I won't convince you to leave, nobody will, you're probably friends with a lot of other dupes who all tell each other that staying in Ohio is a good idea.
I guess it would be ok if you fixed your state and it's getting better but the GOP policies are the ones ruining these places, can you imagine how hard I roll my eyes making 4x what I made a decade ago. hearing nonstop whining about entitlements from a state where everyone should be on food stamps as far as I'm concerned. I used to wonder where the money would come from and now I'm near the money and believe me I don't cry at tax time.