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Google's Eric Schmidt Says People Want Dish-Washing Robots To Clean Up the Kitchen More Than Any Other Kind (cnbc.com)

There is nothing that people want robots to be able to do more than to wash the dishes, according to Alphabet Chairman and former CEO Eric Schmidt. From a report: "When you ask a person what they would like a robot to do, the thing that they would like more than anyone else, is clean up the dishes in the kitchen," the billionaire Google executive says speaking at the Halifax International Security Forum. "That is literally the number one request. And I say this having done this exhaustively," he says. Though you may dream of a robot dishwasher, don't hold your breath for it to happen in the immediate future. "That turns out to be an extraordinarily difficult problem," says Schmidt.

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  1. Wait by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    oogle's Eric Schmidt Says People Want Dish-Washing Robots To Clean Up the Kitchen More Than Any Other Kind

    Well, that they admit to, anyway. Sex robots will be #1 on people's "want lists", count on it. Once they're any good.

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    1. Re:Wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      We have had dish washing robots for decades.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishwasher

      You can even buy them on Amazon.

    2. Re:Wait by reboot246 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What's the world coming to when people are just too fucking lazy to put the dishes in the dishwasher and turn it on?

      Is Eric Schmidt still washing his dishes by hand?!?

    3. Re:Wait by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, not everyone is so hard up in getting a date/spouse as are /.ers.

      I have a spouse. I also have a sexbot. They are not mutually exclusive. So why do I have a sexbot? My wife bought it for me before she went on a 4 month business trip overseas. I told her it wasn't necessary, and that I could stay on the porch without any technological help, but she insisted. She picked out the Sai model, which actually looks similar to her.

      She is back from her trip, but the sexbot is still nice for when she isn't "in the mood". She has an appetite for about 3 times per week, and I prefer about twice that. So the doll makes up the difference.

    4. Re:Wait by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      “I choose a lazy person to do a hard job. Because a lazy person will find an easy way to do it.” - Bill Gates

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    5. Re:Wait by Highdude702 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      why isnt there an "eww" mod...

    6. Re:Wait by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      We bought a moderate level Whirlpool dishwasher two years ago. Nothing particularly fancy. It can clean pretty much anything off of dishes, pots and pans. The key seems to be an extended spray / soak / spray / soak (rinse / lather / repeat) function that takes several hours but what the hell - it's just sitting there working. It can do that all night as far as I'm concerned.

      It really changed my outlook on dishwashers. Previous to this unit we've had to pre rinse and basically wash the damn things before putting it in the dishwasher. That just seemed dumb.

      The only thing it doesn't do is load and unload. While I suppose that would be a general plus, I'm not sure how much I would pay for something like that.

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    7. Re:Wait by Templer421 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Deep Sheep, It had to be Ewe.....

    8. Re:Wait by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      My only reservation is that I had the impression that the Real Dolls were dolls rather than robots - not particularly interactive?

      This is correct. They are not very interactive. The "real thing" is definitely better (but also more time consuming, with all the foreplay before and snuggling afterwards).

      They are putting a lot of resources into R&D, so the technology should improve rapidly.

      They are also not cheap. My wife spent about $7k on mine. The "intimate" parts are removable, which makes them easy to clean, but also easy to swap out. So you could share a sexbot with friends and each have private "privates".

      Given the market potential, and the huge environmental benefit of reduced population growth, it amazes me that we aren't doing more to develop good sexbots. In the long run, good affordable sexbots could do more to reduce global warming than solar panels on ten million rooftops.

    9. Re: Wait by tomtomtom · · Score: 2

      If you want to save yourself the time loading and unloading, this is an easily solved problem with no additional technology required. Certainly not 'robots'.

      Buy two dishwashers and two sets of everything you use regularly in the kitchen. One fills up with dirty stuff while you use the other one like a cupboard with clean stuff in. When youve emptied the clean one, its time to run the dirty one.

      If you don't have space for two fullsize ones, two slimline ones fit in the same space as one fullsize.

    10. Re:Wait by techcodie · · Score: 2

      I got a better model. Then the previous model took me to court and got awarded all the funds I had set aside for operating costs.

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    11. Re:Wait by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Informative

      So you're fucking a doll, while your wife is around?

      I presume you are not married, and never had a GF. Otherwise you would know that "around" is not the same as "available".

      What happened to good ol' jacking off to internet porn ?

      The bot is way better than that. If real sex is a ten, then online porn is maybe a two. The bot is a five.

    12. Re:Wait by quenda · · Score: 3, Funny

      I had the impression that the Real Dolls were dolls rather than robots - not particularly interactive?

      Yes, but I hear neither is Mrs ShanghaiBill, so not really a dealbreaker.

    13. Re:Wait by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Most dishwashers are the same now. There's an EU law that requires spare parts to be available for all white goods for 10 years. The unintended consequence of this is that developing bespoke parts is very expensive, because you have to either guarantee production of them for 10 years after the last dishwasher, or stockpile enough that you can guarantee being able to sell them to anyone who asks. That's a huge expense and so now dishwashers are all made from the same set of parts from the same small number of suppliers.

      We just bought a fairly cheap model that replaced an older second-hand model that died after a few months. The new one is a huge improvement.

      The problem with the robots described in TFA is diminishing returns. If you replace spending 10 minutes every day of washing up with spending 3-4 minutes every 2-3 days unpacking the dishwasher, then that's a big time saving and well worth it. If you then save that time, it's a much smaller saving.

      It's the same problem for robot vacuum cleaners. I'd love to have one, but vacuuming doesn't take that long and the biggest time sink is moving furniture to vacuum around and under it. One intelligent (and small) enough to go under and around furniture and to tell the difference between a clump of hair that I want vacuumed up and a dropped nut or bolt that I really don't want vacuumed up would be a huge time saver. The current models automate the easy bit of the job, but leave the time-consuming bit for me.

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  2. Harder than self-driving cars, really? by Narcocide · · Score: 2

    I want one to fold my laundry too.

    1. Re:Harder than self-driving cars, really? by doctorvo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Simple solution: wrinkle free clothes.

  3. It takes only 5 minutes to load a dishwasher by pikine · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know what to make of this. Either people are too lazy to even load a dishwasher and just litter the plates all over their house, or maybe there really is not much robots can do for us because our basic needs are already fulfilled by simple household appliances.

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    1. Re:It takes only 5 minutes to load a dishwasher by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except that current dishwasher technology is not particularly well suited to all dishes (crystal, china, etc.), nor do they do a good job of getting heavily-soiled pots and pans, or dishes with dried on food clean without pre-washing. Finally, dishwashers are a finite size and will not hold all the dishes from many meals. A well-engineered dishwashing robot will have none of these issues.

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    2. Re:It takes only 5 minutes to load a dishwasher by Zarhan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not the dishes - as you say, dishwasher is for that and loading is quick.

      How about cleaning up cooking utensils, pots, pans and so on (lots of these, e.g. cast-iron stuff, is not machine-washable). Cleaning up the oven, grill, leftovers, flour that has spread across all level surfaces, bits of dough. Cleaning up after your kids messes up the table by spraying her meal all over the table, or when you yourself accidentally knock that drink to the floor. Cleaning up the fridge after the cheese you've forgotten has decided to start evolving into a new life form. Collecting all the garbage (containers of food ingredients and/or take-out).

      Dishes are a solved problem. Cleaning up the other areas of kitchen: Not so much, apart from paying for a housekeeper.

  4. Tough, but if you figure that out, you've got it m by fox171171 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We already have dishwashers for the washing part, the hard part is getting the robot to collect everything, not break or spill anything, clean the big chunks off, load the dishwasher and run it. Then inspect, unload and put it away.

    The good news is if you can build a robot to do that, it should be a no-brainer to get it to do laundry and garbage duties as well. Probably get it to cook too.

  5. Laudry yes! Dishwashing is actually pretty easy by raymorris · · Score: 2

    In our house, laundry would definitely be near the top of the list.

    A dishwashing machine / robot is actually pretty simple. It's just used slightly differently than the habit most people have. Currently, we put our dirty dish in the sink, perhaps after rinsing it first. A day or two later, we wash / scrub the dried-on food, then put it in the "dishwasher" to finish the job. So five steps done by a human:

    1 Rinse
    2 Put in sink
    3 Scrub dried food
    4 Put in dishwasher
    5 Put in cupboard

    That can be easily reduced to one or two steps:
    1 Put in drawer, which is dishwasher

    Optionally the two or three step version:
    Rinse (optional)
    Put in dishwashing drawer
    Put in cupboard (optional)

    The "innovation" is a dishwasher which consists of units of only one rack, and instead of having a door you open and then a rack that pulls out, the two are combined - the dishwasher opens like a drawer. Because it's small, it'll be full (enough) daily and there is no step of handling food that has been drying on the plates for two days. Optionally, every time you close it it could trigger a 5 second blast of water to rinse off the food while it's still fresh.

    An appliance might consist of 2-4 such washing drawers in a stack, with a light to indicate which is the current "dirty" drawer for dirty dishes to go in.

    It wouldn't handle large mixing bowls unless you had one extra-tall drawer for the big items, but rather each drawer would be sized for the cups, cereal bowls, flatware etc that people use daily.

  6. Re:what an idiot! by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

    2 dishwashers. Store your dishes in one of them, load a second one for washing as you use them...

  7. Re:Laudry yes! Dishwashing is actually pretty easy by chuckugly · · Score: 2

    If only they made something like that: https://www.appliancesconnecti...{creative}&KW=&pdv=c

    I kid, I kid. But they are nice - we have those at the office.

  8. Re:Females by boudie2 · · Score: 2

    That was fifty years ago. Asking a woman to cook now is like asking a black guy to shine your shoes.

  9. I've a dishwashing robot for years by zaax · · Score: 2

    Its called a dishwasher. You put for plates etc in; add a tablet and press a botton and they come out clean about 90 mins later - its very good robot

  10. Re:what an idiot! by religionofpeas · · Score: 2

    Or run the dishwasher at night, empty it in the morning, and then load dishes during the day as you use them,

  11. Pot and Pan washing robot by presidenteloco · · Score: 2

    The real problem is the encrusted/burnt-encrusted (and heavily slimed) pots and pans, which
    A) might not fit in the dishwasher along with the dishes, and
    B) the dishwasher doesn't work on anyway so you have to do them by hand, with a lot of scrubbing.

    That's why they call it a dishwasher, not a pot and pan scrubber.

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  12. Re:Um... buy an expensive dishwasher by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

    Ah, what you want is a neighborhood association terminator.

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  13. I think they just lack imagination by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you'd be amazed how little imagination most folks have. It's actually a fairly serious social problem. After the last round of mass shootings there were interviews folks there. Several of who changed their opinion of gun control based solely on personal experiences. I've had friends who fell on hard times after the economic crash of 2008 who's folks were doing pretty good actually and were no help because they just couldn't comprehend the idea of anyone not just being able to work themselves out of any jam because they've always managed to.

    Basically there's a lot of folk who can't grok something they didn't personally experience. If you go back and read the book that word grok came from being able to reach those people was a major part of it.

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  14. Um, got one already, it has a Bosch brand on it. by Halster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I just checked under the bench, my "Dishwashing Robot" in a box is still there...

    SRSLY, give me a robot that can vacuum and mop floors properly (ie. not like a roomba), or pick up kids toys, or wash dry and iron clothes. That's higher on my list than a robot that does what my dishwasher already does perfectly well.

    L8r.

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  15. Re:Laudry yes! Dishwashing is actually pretty easy by rh2600 · · Score: 2

    This already exists - has done for years, it's called a Dish Drawer https://www.fisherpaykel.com/n...

  16. Dishwashers are completely useless by gerald.edward.butler · · Score: 2

    The time it takes to load with the dishes it can actually usefully wash is not offset by the time it takes to manually wash such simple to clean dishes.

  17. Re:Laudry yes! Dishwashing is actually pretty easy by AC-x · · Score: 2

    So five steps done by a human:

    Why would you do step 2 and 3? After you rinse just put them straight in the dishwasher, mine always had no problem dealing with dry residue.

    Also if you want to kick it up a notch have 2 dishwashers and alternate them so one always acts as storage for clean dishes and the other for your used dirty dishes. Rinse and repeat!