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Did Elon Musk Create Bitcoin? (cryptocoinsnews.com)

An anonymous reader quotes CryptoCoinsNews: It should be no surprise that the elusive hunt for Satoshi, often referred to as the father of Bitcoin, has led to the theory that Elon Musk has been hiding a big secret from all of us. Sahil Gupta, a computer science student at Yale University and former intern at SpaceX, believes just this... Bitcoin was written by someone with mastery of C++, a language Musk has utilized heavily at SpaceX. Musk's 2013 Hyperloop paper also provided insight into his deep understanding of cryptography and economics...

One week before Gupta's Medium post on Musk, another Medium blog was published with a theory that Musk invented Bitcoin for future use on Mars. As radical as this may sounds, the point around Paypal in this article was relevant. Musk has already revolutionized digital currency with his founding role in Paypal, which he sold to eBay in 2002. The author claims Musk is under a non-compete from this deal, leaving him to secrecy about his role in Bitcoin.

Gupta's article cites other clues that suport his theory, including Musk's interest in solving global problems, his unusual silence on the topic of cryptocurrencies, and the fact that "Elon has said publicly he doesn't own any bitcoin, which is consistent with a 'Good Satoshi' who deleted his private keys. This means Satoshi's one million coins (worth about $8 billion) are gone for good." And of course, with a net worth of $19.7 billion, Elon Musk is one of the few people who wouldn't need the money.

UPDATE (11/28/17): On Twitter, Elon Musk has responded, saying the rumors that he created Bitcoin are "not true."

189 comments

  1. ObBetteridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    No.

    1. Re:ObBetteridge by Rei · · Score: 1

      Or to rephrase: hell no.

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    2. Re: ObBetteridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A non-compete from 15 years ago is still holding? Sheesh!

    3. Re:ObBetteridge by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows that it was Steve Jobs, as his last dying gift to humanity, forged together in the deep pits of Steve Ballmer. Sad but what I just said has as much truth as the current rumor.

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    4. Re:ObBetteridge by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is one of the weirdest ideas I've seen on Slashdot yet, and that's saying something.

      Elon Musk may be something of a genius when it comes to turning government subsidies into pocket cash, but this is just plain tinfoil hat territory.

    5. Re:ObBetteridge by Venerable+Vegetable · · Score: 1

      Heh. Slashdot caught me by surprise and I was actually going along with it, until "created it for use on Mars".

    6. Re:ObBetteridge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elon Musk may be something of a genius when it comes to turning government subsidies into pocket cash

      this++. Thank you for being one of the very few to point this out.

    7. Re:ObBetteridge by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      No.

      There is no way that a man who has devoted his life to preserving the earth's resources created a currency that consumes them at an exponentially increasing rate.

      Either that, or he created his companies as a way to make amends for his mistake...

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    8. Re:ObBetteridge by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      As long as he keeps lowering the cost to Earth orbit, I'm happy to help give him subsidies for pocket cash. What new exploration are you opening up?

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  2. Don't know who created it by Dorianny · · Score: 5, Funny

    but once it reaches $10G, I fully expect Donald Trump to take credit for it

    1. Re:Don't know who created it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Trump is best at mining. His little hands can dig into the ether and get the tiny coins out.

    2. Re:Don't know who created it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that he's working so hard to destroy Gore's internet, that makes ironic sense :)

    3. Re:Don't know who created it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article is about Bitcoin, not ETH

    4. Re:Don't know who created it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We wouldn't have Bitcoins at all if Al Gore didn't invent the Internet.

    5. Re:Don't know who created it by watermark · · Score: 1

      And then deny it shortly after

    6. Re:Don't know who created it by whyyisthissohard · · Score: 0

      LMFAO DUDE you found a way to make this about Donald Trump, so epic and creative and really a smart statement on the times DUDE YOU ARE FUNNY LOL you should write for network television DUDE LOLLLLLL

    7. Re:Don't know who created it by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Trump is best at mining. His little hands can dig into the ether and get the tiny coins out.

      Trump ... digging for something ... with his hands? Nah. Never happened.

      But hey, he knows how a shovel works.

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    8. Re:Don't know who created it by EETech1 · · Score: 1

      He only falsely allegedly never mentioned grabbing them in the pussy...
      Totally unrelated, and FAKE!!!

    9. Re:Don't know who created it by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't think Musk could keep quiet about it either. In fact knowing him he would have promised it would overtake Visa by the end of the year and released a solar powered mining rig that also charges your car.

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    10. Re:Don't know who created it by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      Al Gore already claimed credit.

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    11. Re:Don't know who created it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey fucker! Don't be shitting on Musk. He's on our team. We need all the help we can get.

    12. Re:Don't know who created it by slashdotwannabe · · Score: 1

      That was actually Hillary's voice on that fake tape that doesn't exist. She's SO good at imitating Trump because she's desperate to be President (sad!) you've never heard a better Trump impersonator than Hillary. She's the BEST at being crooked. She's so good some people call her Crooked Hillary!

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  3. Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Knowing C++ and cryptography makes him Satoshi? lolwut those are some flimsy links.

    1. Re:Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't really even confirm that Musk knows c++ only that it is used at his company.

    2. Re:Haha what? by Pseudonym · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Hell, I know C++ (I used to have a desk next to someone on the standards committee) and I know cryptography (I was part of the OpenPGP working group and wrote a conforming implementation from the draft spec alone just to prove that the spec was good enough).

      Why is nobody claiming I'm Satoshi?

      Apart from the fact that I already have a pretty good pseudonym, and that I clearly don't have Satoshi-level crypto knowledge, the real reason is that I'm nobody. Satoshi was a mythical lone genius, which means he must be someone that most people have heard on. Only people with had-a-voice-role-on-The-Simpsons-level fame get attached to rumours like this.

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    3. Re: Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Very clever, Satoshi, very clever.

    4. Re:Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because I am Satoshi!

      I know all about being anonymous just like bitcoin is entirely and completely anonymous, and like how I (satoshi) am anonymous.

      I have used real coins to purchase things in stores and am posting bits online right now on slashdot.

      and the final proof i am Satoshi, the sha of this message is..
      0bc8bb2228be5c0a8fd92588fd2afe368988e5a5fe8b9484fb8b59fa1ed21ee2

    5. Re:Haha what? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It doesn't really even confirm that Musk knows c++ only that it is used at his company.

      Likewise, the claim that Musk has a "deep knowledge of cryptography", is based on the fact that it was mentioned in a paper that that he co-wrote with other people.

      This is stupider than the flat earth conspiracy.

    6. Re:Haha what? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Because if you owned $8 billion plus in bitcoins we would expect that you'd cash them in at some point, and that would be bad for all the Slashdot editors who are heavily invested in bitcoins.

      However, if Musk owns $8 billion in bitcoins we might hope he deleted them, avoiding the sword of Damocles (except for all the other early adopters who own bazillions of dollars worth).

    7. Re:Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Woah slow down. You’re being far too erudite for the current crop of nuDigg editors.

    8. Re: Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I completely agree, but if you are having a meeting with Musk about a software product, go into it with the technical details. He will ask about middleware layers, frameworks, back-end tech, etc.

      Most CEOs could give a shit.

    9. Re:Haha what? by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      True enough. If I had $8 billion in bitcoins... well, I might not cash out all of them...

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    10. Re:Haha what? by dissy · · Score: 1

      Why is nobody claiming I'm Satoshi?

      Hell, gimme a hundred or two of those bitcoins and I'll call you whatever you want :P

    11. Re: Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Satoshi, whoever he is, does not have $8 billion in BTC.
      There isn't anyone who would pay you $8 billion, or even a single billion, for any amount of BTC. The people with BTC sell tiny slices to suckers (aka investors) and pocket the cash or invest it in sometging with value. BTC has made no progress towards being a legitimate option, it's still just as much of a pyramid scheme today as it was at the start.

      It'll cost you $60 just to conduct a BTC transaction today. And maybe it'll process in a few weeks.

    12. Re: Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nonsense.

      But maybe a moron can find a way to get a high fee transaction to take forever, never tried. Mine go through quickly for a buck or two

    13. Re: Haha what? by slazzy · · Score: 1

      It's not that bad. I just purchased a few things. My $7 mining fee transaction took about 24 hours. My $14 one went through instantly.

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    14. Re: Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean not give a shit, right?

    15. Re:Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am Satoshi. I damn the broke.

    16. Re: Haha what? by G-forze · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not that bad? 14 dollars fee to purchase "a few things" is INSANE! Most of the world live on less than that each day.

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    17. Re: Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know that $14 is more than scum sucking leech banks charge you to use your own money across a border, which is one of the reasons for bitcoin to even exist, right? To dodge bullshit banking fees?

      Sounds like you are still just giving someone else a taste to use your own money, and being smug about it for absolutely no reason. And this time it's for every single transaction you make, like the bad old days of having debit card transaction fees unless you had the "gold" card, etc.

      I guess the kool-aid tastes pretty fucking good.

    18. Re:Haha what? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Go ahead and laugh, just wait until Musk assembles his new company, RetroChronX, and they invent the first time machine. Then he'll go back in time, invent Bitcoin himself for real, and prove you naysayers wrong. While he's at it, he's going to (retro)invent the the microprocessor, Linux, and the Internet too!

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    19. Re:Haha what? by michael_wojcik · · Score: 1

      "Satoshi-level crypto knowledge" isn't a very high barrier. Bitcoin was assembled from well-known algorithms and protocols. See Narayanan and Clark, "Bitcoin's Academic Pedigree".

      The innovation by the inventor(s) of Bitcoin ("Satoshi") was to put those pieces together in a particular way, under a catchy name, at the right time.

      Which is what most inventors do, after all; I don't want to diminish the achievement. It's not every day that someone cobbles together something a bit different out of well-known ideas and it becomes a big industry phenomenon.

      But it's quite a few days.

      (So could it have been Musk? It's not impossible, but it doesn't strike me as very likely.)

    20. Re:Haha what? by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      Nope. Flat earth is still stupider... This is possible, no matter how improbable while flat earth is impossible.
      Agree with the rest and also that the actual probability is equal to or less than that of me winning the lotto by finding a ticket on the ground.

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    21. Re:Haha what? by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      I guess my point, such as it is, is that there are at least a couple of thousand people in the world who tick most of the specific boxes in this story, plus a few the story didn't consider.

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    22. Re: Haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's the cost of doing business when buying drugs, guns, and russian preteens. Premium goods come with premium prices.

    23. Re: Haha what? by qubezz · · Score: 1

      Besides the fact that your information is wrong (unless you want to volunteer that much transaction fee), the Bitcoin whitepaper makes no claim that Bitcoin transactions are going to be cheap or free or fast, those are just promises and interpretations by early adopters and marketers. The innovation is that a network-based independent currency can be maintained with no central bank or authority - groundbreaking.

  4. Do we need even more demented "stories"? by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because this is a new low in a series of very low quality stories that recently made it on slashdot. While the comments also seem to have slipped and the idiots seem to have the majority now, I do not think they should be catered to.

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    1. Re:Do we need even more demented "stories"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +8,000 ( or so )

    2. Re:Do we need even more demented "stories"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1997 called, it wants its /. complaint back.

      I largely ditched the site in 1999 btw, back here for shits n giggles.

    3. Re:Do we need even more demented "stories"? by leonbev · · Score: 1

      It kinda makes sense when you think about it, though... tech news is filled with Bitcoin hype articles and Elon Hype articles right now, so it only makes sense to combine them.

      Now, if they find a way to include Apple or Net Neutrality in that story, they will have hit the tech news trifecta! Bonus points all around!

    4. Re:Do we need even more demented "stories"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much is that in bitcoin?

    5. Re:Do we need even more demented "stories"? by Desler · · Score: 1

      They should rename the site in honor of “Chips & Dips” to “Shits & Giggles.” At least then, the Digg-quality submissions wouldn’t be so unexpected.

    6. Re:Do we need even more demented "stories"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I miss JonKatz.

      There was a man who knew how to pimp shitty articles. Those were masterpieces of shittery, not like the dumb twatwaffling that gets promoted here now.

    7. Re:Do we need even more demented "stories"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure Mozilla invented bitcoin.

  5. No, it was me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I am Spartacus! And the Lindbergh baby! And I shot JR! But I never shot the deputy.

    (Secret BitCoin Code embedded in this post. Use it to generate 1 billion bitcoins.)

    1. Re:No, it was me! by ozduo · · Score: 1

      That's odd as I didn't see you on the "grassy knoll" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    2. Re:No, it was me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How could you? You were blindfolded.

    3. Re:No, it was me! by boudie2 · · Score: 0

      It's funny you should mention that as a couple weeks ago I watched a show on CBC called The Fifth Estate about the recently released then not released JFK assassination files. They alleged that what was not released clearly showed that the fatal shot which blew the back of Kennedy's head off came from the front. But then again who really cares what happened 53 years ago?

  6. Musk doesn't talk about his dumps either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Elon Musk doesn't talk about cryptocurrencies, therefore he must have invented bitcoin."

    The stupid, it hurts.

    Somebody spent about a decade in elementary school. Must have been quite the status symbol to be the only 5th grader driving to school.

    1. Re:Musk doesn't talk about his dumps either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EditorDavid was in elementary school far longer than that. He was the only third grader with facial hair.

    2. Re:Musk doesn't talk about his dumps either by qubezz · · Score: 1

      My mom doesn't talk about cryptocurrencies either, so we definitely can't rule her out either.

  7. This seems like absolute bullshit by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    As if he's got enough free time to do this as a side project.

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    1. Re:This seems like absolute bullshit by queazocotal · · Score: 2

      Around the time in question, Musk was in a nasty time-crunch about the launch of the Falcon 1 rocket.

    2. Re:This seems like absolute bullshit by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Anyone who's run a business knows how little time you have when you're in a situation like that.

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    3. Re:This seems like absolute bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, we all know what it's like *sending a rocket into space* it's just like replacing toilets!

    4. Re: This seems like absolute bullshit by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Well, sometimes it is. For example, if you need to replace a toilet on the ISS.

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    5. Re:This seems like absolute bullshit by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Well I'm guessing being CEO of a company sending rockets into space means you're a lot busier than I was in the projects I've worked on trying to find bugs in customer code so they could release. But even on those projects I didn't have time to do something like BitCoin on the side.

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  8. No. by c · · Score: 5, Funny

    The answer is "no", and someone seriously needs to loosen their tinfoil hat.

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    1. Re:No. by Evangelical_Molester · · Score: 1

      Well he'd better have some coins, because at his current burn rate he's DOA in October 2018.

    2. Re:No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or tighten it with a bench clamp. All the way down.

  9. Elon's plans fully revealed! by Adeptus_Luminati · · Score: 2, Funny

    Elon has been secretly buying even more Bitcoins with all his government grants to prop up TESLA. Those GigaFactories, are really covert Bitcoin mines which are powered by... wait for it... his SolarCity project.

    Ultimately, Elon is a visionary. Whilst everyone is talking about Bitcoin going to the moon, Elon had plans to take it to mars all along... enter SpaceX!

    What about the underground Boring company you ask? That's his version of puting all his cold wallet stored Bitcoins in the ground, like gold, except 1 Bitcoin is now worth more than 1oz of gold, so you gotta have much bigger holes in the ground. The Hyperloop was just a pet project to ensure he could quickly access all his geographically dispersed underground cold storage Bitcoins, should the need ever arise.

    Finally though, he saw that AI would be smart enough to figure out where he stashed all his Bitcoins, so he's come up with the NeuroLace project to enhance the human capacity to memorize Bitcoin brain wallet addresses, whilst still ensuring a high degree of entropy.

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  10. odds by n3r0.m4dski11z · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What are the odds that the one famous person who knows c+ did this, and the other millions of smart non famous programmers, didn't.

    I know we love our celebrities but come on. Besides hes got an ego the size of the moon. There is no way he is not bragging about inventing bitcoin.

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    1. Re:odds by Pseudonym · · Score: 1

      It's almost certain that Satoshi is a) more than one person, and b) composed of individuals who are not household names.

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      Also c) not an economics major

  11. Would be hilarious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Trump decided to redo his golden suite in bitcoin, now that bitcoin is worth about 2x as much as gold :)

    1. Re:Would be hilarious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      now that bitcoin is worth about 2x as much as gold :)

      Per ounce, or per byte?

    2. Re:Would be hilarious... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      now that bitcoin is worth about 2x as much as gold

      Please show your work.

    3. Re: Would be hilarious... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Youâ(TM)re asking for proof of work?

  12. So Governments Don't Know Who Satoshi Is Either? by dryriver · · Score: 1

    In this age of widespread online snooping, no government in the world knows at all who the creator of Bitcoin is? Did the man never use the internet when creating his cryptocurrency? Did he not go through an ISP or gateway of some sort? Did he not make 1 single mistake when trying to cover his tracks? This seems to be another "great mystery" that may not be as "unsolvable" as it appears.

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  13. wouldn't need the money?! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Oh please! Shirley you're not serious. Find me a billionaire who actually believes that! Bezoz is his target... This is animal instinct. The only thing on their mind is "more"...

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    1. Re:wouldn't need the money?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And Elon Musk's Tesla needs all the money it can get. And much more.

    2. Re:wouldn't need the money?! by jedZ · · Score: 1
    3. Re:wouldn't need the money?! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I don't think this is true, but if we allow the possibility for a moment, when Elon is going to need the money is when he does the big lift to Mars. Elon is not going to want to live like a pioneer on Mars - he's going to want to live well and this is going to require basically putting up a BFR every day for a couple years at a minimum; this is something that will cost trillions of dollars. If Elon were Satoshi the time to cash out is when Bitcoin replaces the central banking system not before. The timing to Mars happens to coincidentally line up. We know that Satoshi intended Bitcoin to replace the Fractional Reserve System, so cashing out early would go against his goals. His holdings are also currently not enough to build a city on Mars.

      This proves nothing but saying he hasn't cashed out yet is incompatible with both Elon and Satoshi's goals.

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  14. Bitcoin is pretty simple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All the ideas behind it had been around for years.

    1. Re:Bitcoin is pretty simple. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this. Though it does still boggle the mind at $9k. Where exactly is the scarcity (of anything but forks) here?

      I hope some greybeard digs up some key bits of prior art. I'm too lazy to reread all the stuff I was reading 20 years ago. The one that comes to mind the most was the idea of using a microchunkable compute tax as a form of paid postage for smtp to fight the spam problem. Then, many years before bitcoin, I'm pretty sure I recall reading an outline of cryptocurrency (lwn, schneier, or wired perhaps) that was close enough to what bitcoin became that I don't consider bitcoin's inventor as being all that clever except for the part where they got away with $1B+ of initial coins. So yeah, there's that angle of the clever. We'd have had cryptocurrencies at least as good as bitcoin at least 5 years earlier if ISPs had let people operate servers from home on equal terms with their neighbors traffic. Home server persecution results in changing the field of pioneering interesting services that utilize them into a kind of profit-from-recentralization narrative that plays over and over again - facebook/blog, twitter/irc, reddit/usenet. And for google to make their search database like they did, required that they be able to scrape with utter fucking abandon, as they enjoyed doing. Servers are fun as fuck. We haven't even scratched the surface of the fun ways they will change our descendents lives. The fucked part is that be keeping the tools of innovation (and the market demand for such tools) more narrowed (it's a bar/hurdle), we'll end up with a bunch of assholes with software patents that fuck over things for the rest of us, who would have come to the same solutions if it didn't take venture capital to operate a general purpose computer as a server from home.

      $0.02... (BTC:0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000042)

  15. clues that suport his theory

    There are no "clues" in the articles, just drivel. Two of the articles describe the ideas as "oddball" and that's right. There's no point in wasting time on conspiracy theorists and their "theories".

  16. No by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

    No, he didn't. Is Musk a programmer anyway? I find it hard to believe he's doing the programming at SpaceX.

    I rather like the theory that Wright was, actually, really, Nakamoto, because I'd expect Nakamoto to be that dodgy. It's just a shame that if he was, he chickened out at the last minute.

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  17. No by Desler · · Score: 1

    Is there any low-quality schlock submission that EditorDavid won’t post? This is shit even by EditorDavid standards.

  18. Of course you'd want Him to be dodgy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Satoshi turned out to be a dodgy scammer, it would allow you to hang onto at least a scrap of naysaying dignity.

    Come on, man. Like most of us, you missed it; you couldn't see what was right in front of you. Just admit that you have been wrong about it all, and then enjoy the feeling of freedom from your oppressive cognitive dissonance.

    1. Re:Of course you'd want Him to be dodgy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have absolutely not the foggiest what this is supposed to mean. Other than, presumably, you don't think Bitcoin is a ridiculous solution to a dubiously defined problem.

  19. The keys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are the keys truly gone forever? How long would it take to brute force? If bitcoin keeps climbing like it is, in 10 years? 50? 100? where is the break even for brute forcing?

    1. Re:The keys by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      fully breaking SHA-256 would require more energy than the Sun (Sol) has left.

      Unless you got lucky with the guessing.

  20. It was Russian hackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want to know who did anything the answer is always Russian hackers.

  21. Oh Elon, is there anything you can't do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The clues are all there:
    He can program C++, which is an almost unheard-of skillset.
    He doesn't use or care to talk about BitCoin or cryptocurrency.
    He has lots of money.
    He previously agreed not to do anything like BitCoin due to non-competition with PayPal.

    Therefore, ergo, clearly it was Elon Musk all along! He's so clever and handsome, I'm really not surprised it was him.

    I 3 Elon 4eva

  22. Wow. Just... wow. by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    This is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve seen or heard in a long, long time.

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  23. Re:So Governments Don't Know Who Satoshi Is Either by blahplusplus · · Score: 2
  24. Slow news day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another lazy Sunday

  25. C++? What a coincidence! by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bitcoin was written by someone with mastery of C++, a language Musk has utilized heavily at SpaceX.

    a) Musk personally, or the people Musk employs at SpaceX?
    b) It's C++. It's not exactly esoteric. You know I heard that DB Cooper spoke English, and so does Clint Eastwood... coincideeeence?

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    1. Re:C++? What a coincidence! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DB Cooper is Tommy Wiseau. Get your facts straight!

  26. No, the NSA created it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bitcoin is not so anonymous when you combine the records that it keeps with the NSA's communications intercepts. It was created because it is easier to track big money terrorists and criminals when they utilize your system than when they utilize a number of unique systems of their own device. It makes big data attacks more effective.

  27. Huh? by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a poorly written fanfic to me.

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  28. First headline to break Betteridge's Law? by cliffjumper222 · · Score: 4, Insightful
  29. Elon is God, apparently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, and he's going to solve climate change, eliminate crime, war and poverty and guess what? He's the one responsible for the Big Bang as well.

  30. Did Hugh Hefner Create Radical Feminism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well?

  31. Celebrity gossip for nerds? by CptLoRes · · Score: 1

    All the celebrity crap is bad enough as it is. Not sure if I can take it if we start doing it in here also.

    1. Re:Celebrity gossip for nerds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to nuDigg!

  32. Mandatory XKCD by orsayman · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Mandatory XKCD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're an idiot.

  33. DIY Cryptocurrency Mining... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you want mine your own cryptocurrency, you need a motherboard with 19 PCIe 1X slots to plug in 19 GPUs and a couple of 1200W PSUs.

  34. This Just In by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Trump voters support treason. Discuss!

  35. Gossip and rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is all that is left here on slashdot. Clickbait article links and musings on gossip requiring no proof. Thanks millennials for fucking up another thing I used to like.

  36. Given how delusional his fanboys are by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I figure it's only a matter of time before one of them tells us the Elon also created the Universe 13.7 billion years ago.

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    1. Re:Given how delusional his fanboys are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please! that is far too scientific for that crowd, they will be claiming 10,000 years ago

    2. Re:Given how delusional his fanboys are by CanadianMacFan · · Score: 1

      Hell, the way it's going the universe will have been created just so that Elon can be doing all of His wonderful stuff.

    3. Re:Given how delusional his fanboys are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I figure it's only a matter of time before one of them tells us the Elon also created the Universe 13.7 billion years ago.

      Blasphemer! He created the universum 4000 years ago under his most popular pseudonym.

      Captcha: duration

  37. One in a million chance by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

    I know C++, I learned economics and crypto at school, I also own a credit card. That obviously makes me a master of cryptocurrencies.
    But this is not enough, so let me prove you I am Satoshi : I don't own any bitcoin, and I don't bring the topic on bitcoin for unrelated conversations. /facepalm

    And if that story makes sense, it would make sense for millions of people. Nice story though. I would have preferred Steve Jobs though, leaving us with bitcoin just before his death, and getting buried with the private key would have made a great story.

    1. Re:One in a million chance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve Jobs didn't invent anything too. Steve Jobs just copied stuff from Xerox, Steve Wozniak, Palm smartphone, etc. Not a single thing invented by Mr Jobs.
      Steve Jobs was a marketing guy, a salesman, not a scientist nor an inventor.

  38. In other news... by sgage · · Score: 1

    It was revealed that Elon Musk actually invented baseball. Also apple pie.

    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And masturbating into an apple pie while watching baseball.

    2. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That reminds me a conversation from some years ago (originally in Spanish, quoted from memory):

      "Some people think that Al Gore invented the Internet"

      "Al Gore? Isn't that the guy who invented the Al-Gorithms?"

      "Yeah, and he created the Gore Cinema genre".

      "And invented Goretex"

      "And discovered Goreland"

      (The last one made more sense in Spanish: Greenland -> Groenlandia -> Gorelandia)

  39. Fanbois love that Musk dick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sucking it deep in their mouths and deep in their asses.

  40. Consistent with available evidence ... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1

    and the fact that "Elon has said publicly he doesn't own any bitcoin, which is consistent with a 'Good Satoshi' who deleted his private keys.

    Being consistent with some theory is a pretty low standard, something even creationists and fake moon landing theorists achieve.

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    1. Re: Consistent with available evidence ... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      and fake moon landing theorists achieve

      On a reeeally good day.

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  41. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give me a fucking break, millennial. No. Elon Musk hasn't 'invented' anything, ever.

  42. Dear Mr. Musk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please send 1000 Bitcoins to 17Yvsma9tfiuqVP7QhsFE2VmsFpTEMy17P so I can work full-time on my own projects.

    Thank you in advance.

  43. Keyser Soze and me by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    It was a collaboration, but I can't tell you that because... Keyser Soze. I know you doubt me; the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing us he doesn't exist. I figure somehow this hurt the Hungarians.

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    1. Re:Keyser Soze and me by AndrewMalcolm · · Score: 2

      Kevin Spacey just went and ruined Keyser Soze for me.

    2. Re:Keyser Soze and me by goombah99 · · Score: 2

      conflating art and the artist leads to grief and idolatry. We'd practically have to burn every great painting otherwise, those sad lechers. It's a shame about Spacey but that doesn't lessen how he might have moved you with his performance. As Neil Young once sang "[Where] Even Richard Nixon has got Soul".

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  44. No, but he did create... by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

    a famous fragrance, after which several mammal species were subsequently named.

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    1. Re:No, but he did create... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mmmh, Musk musk. ... most "why?" why boner, ever.

  45. Betteridge's Law by careysub · · Score: 1

    'Nuff said.

    Move along folks, nothing to see.

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  46. Aso, that's a kimono by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is an anagram of Satoshi Nakamoto.

  47. Not for use on Mars, because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Musk obviously is not smart enough to create BitCoin.

    But the real tell is that it couldn't have been invented for us on Mars, because Mars is not a planet.

    Space is fake. The Earth is flat. The elipses prove it.

  48. Not interested by sacrilicious · · Score: 1

    Please tell me there's a way I can filter out all stories that have anything remotely to do with Elon F'ing Musk, please.

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    1. Re:Not interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure. Try Usenet.

  49. the end of slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this insufferably moronic article marks the last time I am reading slashdot, anonymous coward 1999-2017 RIP

  50. Insufficiently paranoid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm an early adopter of Bitcoin (late 2010).

    The core dev crew (and Satoshi, whether he was an individual or a group of people) had one thing in common: extreme paranoia. They were all convinced that at any moment "the guv'mint" (or flavor of the month secret Powers That Be ) was going to kick their door down and haul them off to a dark hole.

    I have no idea whether Musk has the requisite coding talent, but he's not paranoid that way. You'd all know if he was. It emanates in waves.

  51. I thought it was Kim Jong-un by MattCC · · Score: 1

    Elon Musk invented BitCoin? Surely not. I heard it was Kim Jong-un.

    1. Re:I thought it was Kim Jong-un by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't be possible. IQ is related to nutrition. North Koreans have poor nutrition, their citizens cannot create something productive.

  52. Musk worship is out of control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If he did, it would be the only thing Elon has ever introduced to the market that actually had net positive financial value.

    So no, he did not.

  53. Why delete the key? by aliquis · · Score: 1

    At one million bitcoins if the key was still around what about selling it of slowly and invest in stocks and use that profit to improve the situation for man kind or something?

    If bitcoin would end up being worth a whole lot more then this could had been one way of redistributing wealth if Musk felt he didn't needed it himself.

  54. Hail the God Emperor Elon! by bettodavis · · Score: 1

    After not only making Paypal, building SpaceX, revolutioning the auto industry with Tesla, proposing the Hyperloop and kickstarting the brain lace, now rumor has it that Musk also built bitcoin out of the kindness of his heart (because Sakamoto -aka Elon- supposedly didn't keep the founder's stack of coins).

    Give me (and Elon) an effin break.

  55. Elon musk also... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Invented the cure for cancer, but is under a non compete that prevents him from releasing it.

  56. Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    revolutionized digital currency with his founding role in Paypal
    When did âoeWestern Union, but on the internet!â become âoerevolutionized digital currencyâ?
      Thereâ(TM)s nothing magical about PayPal other than some first mover advantage and some business dealings. The concept and tech behind it are mundane and obvious.

    1. Re:Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was it really necessary to âwriteâ your âcommentâ in Microsoft Word first?

    2. Re: Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is actually /. unicode failure with comments posted via iPad...

  57. Dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ass jiggaboos think elon musk created bitcoin? heh

  58. Bitcoin an environmental disaster by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

    World currently burns more than 2% of total U.S. residential energy consumption on the childish pursuit of bitcoin "mining".

    For what? A currency system with the worst privacy story imaginable?

    Personally I couldn't care less who invented it. My view the world is better off without it.

    1. Re:Bitcoin an environmental disaster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please compare to what the US banking & finance industry (including stock markets, brokerage houses, and the like) consume before complaining.

      I'd wager that crypto is more efficient.

      And that's not factoring in the whole point of crypro - getting the government out of money. There's a lot of value there.

    2. Re:Bitcoin an environmental disaster by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      Please compare to what the US banking & finance industry (including stock markets, brokerage houses, and the like) consume before complaining.

      Do you think there isn't a market for bitcoin or bitcoin brokers don't exist? Both assumptions are of course false. What services that apply to traditional currency markets do not apply to bitcoin? If Bitcoin were to become the U.S. + world reserve currency overnight what aspect of Bitcoin specifically would be the source of increased efficiency vs. U.S. dollar? Not "wasting" money on printing presses?

      I'd wager that crypto is more efficient.

      I'd wager monkeys mashing keys on a keyboard are better at wagering than people guessing.

      And that's not factoring in the whole point of crypro - getting the government out of money. There's a lot of value there.

      This is a complex political argument very much dependent on the specifics of each government and associated monetary systems. The position government never has a constructive role to play in managing monetary system strikes me as particularly absolutist little different than fools seeking pure capitalistic or socialistic economies due to abstract philosophical ideals divorced from objective reality.

      The question itself is almost not worth addressing as every ass backwards dictatorial regime worthy of their reputation has already banned it. What I value in currency is being able to conduct transaction without records of my and everyone else's transactions becoming public knowledge forever. Here bitcoin is uniquely unable to deliver.

  59. intern from Yale... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love how guys like Musk try to keep a populist folksy image by making statements that they don't care about degrees or education, but then in practice their orgs are stacked with ivy grads. Such a load of shit.

  60. Is cliffjumper222 the worst /. commenter ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice subject. See what I did with mine? ;-)

  61. I also don't need $8,000,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would argue that far from Musk being "one of the few who don't need the money," actual truth is that there is nobody on the planet that needs $8,000,000,000. Nobody.

    1. Re:I also don't need $8,000,000,000 by jblues · · Score: 1

      640K dollars ought to be enough for anyone.

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    2. Re:I also don't need $8,000,000,000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want to buy 10 B747-8 and convert them into a private Jet for my personal use. So yeah $8B won't be enough for the conversion, maintenance, crew and airport parking fees of my planned jet fleet composed of 10 units of B747..

  62. If you believe that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. I think it might have been the Queen of England.

    Captcha word: nonsense

  63. delete the key? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not a big crypto nut but isn't there a certain point were bruteforcing the key to a million bitcoins will be less costly than mining new coins?

  64. Elon doesn't need money? False... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hogwash. 8 billion would nicely fund a colony start-up on Mars. Elon could definitely use the money.

  65. Re:So Governments Don't Know Who Satoshi Is Either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Satoshi is either Nick Szabo or one of the triad of researchers working with him. That is about 95% certain. Notice that Nick Szabo and Satoshi Nakamoto have the same initials, and Szabo is a Japanese fetishist. Also, Szabos papers on blockchain digital coins predate bitcoin.

  66. Cult of Musk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Cult of Musk gets more ridiculous by the day.

  67. Automotive by sevenview · · Score: 1

    We are a Car dealership in vaughan,canada. We offers a wide range of new and used cars in canada. If you are going to buy cars in canada visit us here : http://www.sevenviewchrysler.c...

  68. Elon Musk is Bruce Wayne by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Billionaire developing space rockets, super cars and ultra fast trains.

    Each night Elon dons his identity hiding garb and fights injustice with his ninja coding skillz and enormous brain.

  69. Depends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could he milk the government tit and get grant money to fund it?

  70. Narcissist.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Musk is one of the worlds biggest narcissists; he wouldn't create something and then walk away from it. He would be spending most of his time talking about it; after all, he's really good at talking about getting work done, but doesn't seem to actually get work done
    > inb4 Tesla
    >> its easy to hire people who can do the job for you

  71. Next Question by prefec2 · · Score: 1

    Has Elon Musk the cure for the common cold?
    Can Elon Musk walk on water?
    Was Elon Musks mother a virgin?
    Has Elon Musk invented vacuum tube maglev vehicles?

  72. Elon understands economics too well. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a problem with bitcoin.

    Suppose first that we run a country. We have our own coin. So when someone goes to the supermarket they give some of those coins to the supermarket and in return they get say a bread. The supermarket buys the bread at the bread factory and the bread factory pays the employees. All in all there is a certain amount of money (/coins) necessary to keep all this running. Would 100 of these coins suffice? That depends on how big our economy is. And it doesn't matter if we call them cents or dollars or bitcoins. There is a certain amount of money required and you can express that in the Gross Domestic Product, or in the macdonalds index (how many big macs you can buy).

    Now... suppose we have "enough money" in circulation to keep the economy running smoothly. But now something happens and suddenly people start saving money like crazy. They put the stuff in their bank-account and it doesn't move anymore. That would make the money more scarce, wanted, necessary and the value of the coin goes up. In our hypothetical country, the government will create more money to go around to keep this effect in check and everybody is happy again.

    Now with bitcoin, at the current exchange rate, there should now be enough bitcoins worth to run a (very) small country. Well, with bitcoins, because the exchange rate is going up all the time, people ARE going to stockpile them like crazy. This leaves less-and-less of them around for "running the economy". Because the supply of new bitcoins is finite, less-and-less will remain for running the economy. When there is a real economy running on bitcoins, the amount of "free bitcoins" will determine what the price of a bitcoin will be. And it makes a big difference if 90% or 99% of the bitcoins is "in a savings account".

    At the moment, the smallest bitcoin is 10^-8, right? About $10^-4 right now. If bitcoin goes 100x bigger (more bitcoins get "locked up" and 10x more economy starts running on bitcoin), we can't express sub-cent amounts anymore.

    Back on topic: I think Elon is smart enough to have seen this in advance and would have run things differently.

  73. No one could do it better than this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If anything Terence Tao created Bitcoin.. no one on the planet would be more qualified than this guy:
    https://g.co/kgs/T7rgNJ

  74. Seems unlikely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He probably would have done a better job.

    Also, the use of Forth suggests somebody older.

  75. Dear Editor David by dcw3 · · Score: 1

    Please stop asking questions in the subject line of your articles. I've seen at least 3 of them today, and the answer is always NO.

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    1. Re:Dear Editor David by tsa · · Score: 1

      Of course the answer is always No. If it were yes the article would not have been written.

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  76. S.A. Tushi by TheStickBoy · · Score: 1

    Satoshi
    SAToshi
    South African Toshi
    South African Tushi
    ....a person from South Africa Elon, we are onto you!

  77. This was educational by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 2

    Until today, I was unfamiliar with Betteridge's law.

  78. Jezus by tsa · · Score: 0

    Jezus made the Bitcoin.

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  79. Re:The keys are with Peter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > fully breaking SHA-256 would require more energy than the Sun (Sol) has left

    According to currently available knowledge in the open academic sector. There are severeal caveats with such a statement, however:

    1., Maybe some 3-lettered agency has more bigger minds on pay-roll than any civilian universities?

    2., Some time in the future, maybe in the near future, somebody, maybe even a civilian researcher can make a discovery, like solving P vs NP and then all digital computer based cryptography, be it TSA or elliptic curves, collapes overnight.

    3., The solution could come from outside, for example an ancient space-faring civilization may have exhausted the entire search space aeons ago and could tell us the solution straight from stored cache for any SHA retro-query. Alternatively, G-d could talk to a prophet and tell him this or that SHA-256 computes to this or that important file.
    (G-d can crack SHA-256 just by proclaiming let there be a crack, otherwise he wouldn't be G-d. Science has no authority to say whether G-d exists or not, as that's outside the reach of falsifiable reaseach until he decides to reveal himself, if ever.)

    4., Other things which we cannot even start to imagine. (There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, Scene V)

  80. obviously by vladimir.sakharuk · · Score: 1

    Elon Musk is reincarnation of Nikola Tesla, Who else then?

  81. time traveler by Anil · · Score: 1

    "Satoshi" probably hasn't even been born yet. He traveled back in time to generate wealth for himself in the future; His innovation was creating a new currency, as opposed to using the old compound interest trick -- also makes actually procuring the money easier, no banks to deal with, just needs to have his keys.

  82. Only if You Also Believe . . . by tmjva · · Score: 1

    ... that Elon Musk writes his own code.

    Does he not have minions for that?

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  83. Elon Musk is the new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chuck Norris...

  84. elon is a asset by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    elon is an asset, fellas!

    The job before paypal was working for Clowns In America as the CEO of a clowns venture capitol 'non-profit'.

    After he took up paypal, he then gave himself the position of CEO of paypal.

    The rest of operation mockingbird legend.

    Spacex has been supplying missile engines to NK.

    Uranium1 was to transfer uranium via Treaudus country, then to Merkel's country, then to NK.

    Welcome to the bleeding edge of information.

    Wake up from fantacy land peoples!

  85. I own no bitcoins by bib1620 · · Score: 1

    I own no bitcoins and I am Satoshi Nakamoto.

  86. Zodiac by thaabit · · Score: 1

    I bet he's also the Zodiac killer.

  87. That settles it by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

    UPDATE (11/28/17): On Twitter, Elon Musk has responded, saying the rumors that he created Bitcoin are "not true."

    Clearly Musk did create Bitcoin.

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