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Windows 10 Now on 600 Million Active Devices (geekwire.com)
Windows 10 has found its way onto 600 million active devices, says CEO Satya Nadella. From a report: CEO Satya Nadella referenced the new number for the first time moments ago at the company's annual shareholders meeting. The number is up from the 500 million devices touted by Microsoft earlier this year, but it's still well short of the company's original goal of 1 billion Windows 10 devices within two to three years of its 2015 release.
It can't be understated how good of a job MS has done with Win10 and the company's direction as a whole in the past few years. Placing Nadella at the helm, and getting rid of Balmer has been a real boon to the company. I know this probably makes me sound like a MS shill, but having spent multiple years in the Linux desktop scene, macOS, and windows, the current windows OS is by far the best OS I've ever used.
While the target of 1B devices might be a little bit of a pipe dream, they still have another year to hit their goal, and if they don't, it's not like it's even remotely a failure.
I still can't deny that Ubuntu 17.10 is very tempting though...
When that didn't work they forced it on you.
And the most important thing to remember is that if people had the choice of installing Windows 7 on new machines, the Win10 numbers wouldn't even be THAT high.
The only reason people are installing Windows 10 is because they have no choice. Not only is it not that particularly compelling, but there are so many downsides, that people are actively resisting using it.
I know I won't allow it at our company until we've implemented a full deployment plan including blocking all of Microsoft telemetry IP addresses, and set up a WSUS server with a VERY conservative update schedule. Microsoft has fucked up SO many updates, SO regularly, that they cannot be trusted. This probably also means we'll be forced to subscribe to their Windows 10 Enterprise nonsense since they removed so much of the GPO functionality from Pro.
I installed Win10 in a VM to test it and didn't like it. Does that count?
Xbox One, Windows Phone, Surface, various 3rd party tablets and netbooks, laptops, servers and virtual machines, IoT devices, Raspberry Pi...
That increases the numbers beyond what we would think of as a traditional Windows 10 application environment. It doesn't mean we can easily target those 600M active devices in any meaningful way.
https://winblogs.azureedge.net...
Microsoft loves to throw this graphic around but they're delusional if they think it's that simple.
And 34 million of them are currently locked on a forced update in the middle of the workday. Thank you Jesu^b^b^bMicrosoft!
The biggest exercise in arm twisting in History.
Even with Vista and 8 they claimed each had 'sold better than any previous Windows version'.
Of course that will be the case given that
1) PC shipments increase globally with time
2) Most PC OEMs have a contract which says they must install an OS on each machine
It's the reason Dell sold machines with FreeDos on them for a while. Their contract with MS stopped them selling machines with no OS.
3) PC OEMs get a discount on Windows
4) Most customers prefer Windows to any alternative OS.
So something like Vista or 8 which was relatively unpopular sold better than something like XP, 7 or (arguably) 10 which was relatively well received. In fact you could argue that each release of Windows since 2000 has been controversial once it started coming on new machines by default. Still each one sold better than the last one.
Still MS will continue to claim that everything is fine, regardless of whether an OS release is well received - 7 springs to mind after the disastrous Vista, or very badly received - 8 or Vista.
It's what happens when monopolies take the fact that people have to accept what they're doing as a sign that people like what they're doing.
echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
Is not a bad OS... but stop nudging me, Microsoft.
I want a local account with locally-saved password, not one that's tied to a Microsoft account. Yes, it can be done, but the amount of nudging to get me to create a cloud account is infuriating. I don't want my settings in the cloud, and to give you power to change them. My computer is mine -- I don't want to be on a worldwide AD domain. Nor do I want WiFi passwords "cared and shared" with the world.
I want UX updates when I request them, not when you think I should have them.
I want one switch to turn off all telemetry. It's not that difficult to set a flag that all parts of your OS would respect.
I don't want to be nudged into using cloud storage when I can be saving and backing up locally. Oh, and I want ad-free, unpaid Solitaire back already :)
Windows 10 is a good, relatively-stable OS that's also a monetization platform -- it makes me feel like my device doesn't belong to me.
As a long time Linux user I find it pathetic how even when Microsoft falls short of their goal, they still manage to do so much better than the entire GNU/Linux community has managed to do.
Windows Vista, Windows 8, and even Windows 10 gave the GNU/Linux community great opportunities to get some significant market share. But instead of doing that, the GNU/Linux community screwed itself over with nonsense like GNOME 3, PulseAudio, NetworkManager, systemd, and Wayland.
The only success we've seen with the Linux kernel is when the users have absolutely no idea at all that it's there, like in embedded devices or in Android. That has nothing to do with Linux itself, though. Those embedded devices could have just as easily, and perhaps even more successfully, used NetBSD's kernel instead. Android is successful because of its apps. Even for server use we see Linux taking a beating, with there being significant movement to FreeBSD (for stability), to OpenBSD (for security), and even to Windows Server (to benefit from .NET).
Here we have Windows 10 with almost half a billion installations, which is probably around 800 to 900 times more installations than GNU/Linux (including all distros) has on desktops or laptops. Microsoft and Windows 10 haven't failed. They've been wildly successful. If anything should be considered a failure, its the lack of GNU/Linux to capture any meaningful desktop or laptop market share.
Is not a bad OS..
It spies on you and reports your activities to Microsoft and you can't turn it off
if you don't think that's bad then you are totally brainwashed
See subject: The fact that it goes on & nobody KNOWS what's being sent back to MS (afaik, unless others know differently).
* You'd EXCEED your goal if you'd "fly right/straight" on that much Microsoft!
APK
P.S.=> No questions asked - it's what's held ME back w/ other things (like some programs NOT RUNNING on 10 & all it is, is a Win32/Win64 API based programming set - NO REAL GOOD REASON for things to NOT RUN THERE other than something is up (& it's up to no good imo))... apk
are they really sure and are just not counting the reinstalls insider fast ring builds do every week? i am the only pro w10 person (within reason, and not out of the box) person i know so 600mil seems high.
Microsoft under Nadella are not much different in their execution. The centre of their entire theory is to embrace, extend, and extinguish. Look at how quickly they raced to get *nix people to run their bits on Azure, and now they offer Kubernetes. The Linux subsystem for Windows. Office on Chromebooks, Android, and iOS. They are a house full of entitled nutters who think, "Right, we cannot allow people to not use our software, so we'll make it ubiquitous."
No, thank you. I've had the realisation over the years that whatever they do is not out of benevolence. Releasing open source code? So what. Just 10 years ago, they declared Linux and open source a "cancer" that needed to be eradicated.
I'm forced to use Windows 10 at work and it's a chore. It's slow, buggy, and unfriendly compared to macOS, Linux, or FreeBSD desktop offerings. Full stop. I've been in IT for 20 years and I always wince when I'm forced to use Windows client, Windows server, of Office. I prefer running Gnome or KDE on FreeBSD or Linux. I get more work done.
The company I am working for took the plunge and is now delivering laptops with Windows 10.
Next they will want devices with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!
I think Windows 10 is very good but Microsoft has tried hard to not make it so. Pushing out broken updates, making users accept whatever in terms of these updates and apps some of which can’t even be uninstalled even if you will never use them. So yes Windows 10 is great despite Microsoft attempts at killing it.
The above comment says these things about Windows 10, which was forced on many unsuspecting users:
"It's still a security nightmare."
"It now drives advertising at me via the start menu."
"It's unstable..."
Don't you hate it when someone says overly positive things about Windows 10? Windows 10 is possibly the worst spyware ever made.
Quote: "Buried in the service agreement is permission to poke through everything on your PC."
To Microsoft employees giving positive comments: Get another job! Get a job with a company you can respect!
Windows 10 is a plague. MS has shit on their brand.
it's nice to see they are using some all that telemetry. i'm glad you tested it in a VM. i hope you firewalled it too.
Has anyone seen one? I heard my wife's boss had one of those Surface things, but he never has it when I run into him so I haven't seen it yet. And that's the closest I've gotten to what I assume was Windows 10. What type of devices are they talking about? Are they like Linux, in that they're in headless thermostats and stuff like that, so that I could look at one without knowing?
Feces are at least good for fertilizer. Microsoft should have stronger words for its self-destruction. Slow painful suicide?
I suspect there are only 100 million, but people had had to load 6x times due to the system locking them out of their PC.s
Raped in the ass every day by Microsoft malware operating system. Not exactly something I would elect to celebrate... but hey... to each his own.
It is a 12 GB machine, the pagefile was 2GB. I have a 1TB hard disk. In unix/linux side my swap disk has always been twice the RAM. OK raise it, still it was too slow, disk activity 100%.
OK find and disable one drive. Mild help, still over 90%
Find and disable superfetch. Ding ding ding! Pay dirt. Disk started idling.
These are not some crap ware loaded by the Vendor. IT is microsoft pushing useless things that leads to such bad user experience.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
I really don't get their policy. They let users upgrade to Windows 10 for free and then they just shut the free upgrade down. Now they say people with disabilities can upgrade to Windows 10 for free. But any other user can simple go to that link and avail this opportunity too. Why can't they just let everyone upgrade for free.
Not bad, not bad at all.
The office worker may not have the choice but to use Windows 10 but most home users I know use mobile devices and probably couldn't tell you what O/S is running on it. It just works for what they want it to do. I have both a work Windows 10 laptop and a personal Linux Mint laptop. For leisure purposes I don't use either half as much as my tablet or mobile phone.
Just think how many that could have been if they weren't lumbered by the Microsoft anti-brand.
And does it work? It's been stuck updating to 79% for 8 hours now, I have been here before, try to resolve a Win 10 update crash with a reboot and the entire OS is bung and needs to be reinstalled. But then don't resolve the crash and you might as well just use the screen for a night light as the update issues never, never end.
The only success we've seen with the Linux kernel is when the users have absolutely no idea at all that it's there, like in embedded devices or in Android.
And what is worse about all this is that those linux implementations are all horrible. Android is a mess and embedded devices with linux are a security nightmare. All the while, we have 'desktop linux' which has none of those issues and it's getting nowhere.
With Windows 10 "Typed text on keyboard sent every 30 minutes Anything you say into a microphone is transmitted Transcripts of things you say while using Cortana Index of all media files on your computer When your webcam is first enabled, 35mb of data Telemetry data."
Still do not understand how the OS is HIPAA compliant. Still looking to see a vendors agreement penned with Satya Nadella signature.
"It can't be understated how good of a job MS has done with Win10"
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.. here it comes ...
What good job, a good job in maintain a monopoly on the desktop PC, seeing as no one has a choice in 'upgrading' to Win10
"I know this probably makes me sound like a MS shill"
Yes
"but having spent multiple years in the Linux desktop scene"
Appeal to authority
"the current windows OS is by far the best OS I've ever used".
They will pry my Win7 machine from my cold dead hands. (or until security updates stop... whichever comes first).
Why would anyone want to use that pile of horseshit?
I have 8.1 now. On a laptop. Out of the box it had Win8, and it was absolutely terrible. I hated it.
Use classic shell, boot to desktop. I can organize my start menu to the way I like it. Never seemed to be able to do that in 7 or 10. Looks sort of like Win2000. Happy with that.
There's still a lot of stupid crap, but not in areas I have to use very often.
Would be how many devices are still running Windows versions before 10.
In other words, how many people and organizations did everything they could to fight the forced upgrade to spyware.
That would be a more revealing, more meaningful statistic .
Forcibly stealing your data (i.e. telemetry), Taking away user-choice, becoming user-hostile in many areas, trying to force the scummy Microsoft store. Did I mention the forced spying / data-theft that you CANT TURN OFF? It spans from Windows 10 through Office to even Freaking SQL server!
Untrustworthy scum.
While not quite stable software is one thing, forced data-theft / spying doesn't even allow our whole org. of over 10k users to try Win 10 (Not updating Win 7 with the Telemetry updates also).
Technology is making those in control evil.