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Bacteria Found On ISS May Be Alien In Origin, Says Cosmonaut (independent.co.uk)
Kekke writes: Lots of buzz around this. Russian cosmonaut Anton Shkaplerov took routine samples from the outside of the International Space Station during a spacewalk. These samples were analyzed and found to contain bacteria that must have come from somewhere other than Earth or the ISS itself. "Bacteria that had not been there during the launch of the ISS module were found on the swabs," Mr. Shkaplerov told TASS Russian News Agency. "So they have flown from somewhere in space and settled on the outside hull." He made it clear that "it seems, there is no danger," and that scientists are doing more work to find out what they are. The Independent writes, "Finding bacteria that came from somewhere other than Earth would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in the history of science -- but much more must be done before such a claim is made."
Just because it wasn't there during the launch it doesn't mean it didn't come from Earth.
After all this time, the extraterrestrial life that we found ended up being a proverbial bug on the windshield of the ISS?
They have miniature DNA sequencer on board, they can find out if it matches at all with any sequenced earthly strain. (I have one also, it is a MinION by Oxford nanowire technologies. Although not perfect it should be capable of sequencing this).
If it truly of extraterrestrial origin it should be immediately obvious as it is would have diverged very far from the âoeTree of Lifeâ (thatâ(TM)s assuming there are any similarities at all).
It, would also be incredibly valuable and not just from a scientific standpoint. Just a single completely novel protein has caused multi-billion dollar biotech revolutions. Here would be an organism with potentially thousands.
The claims of alien bacteria on the ISS are being met with widespread skepticism.
While in space most likely. The fact that we're even able to classify it bacteria rather than a foreign micro organism is telling.
I don't read AC
It would be cool if these were alien, but I'm willing to bet that these are just terrestrial bacteria.
What'd I tell you? I said aliens coming. I tole you and you didn't listen.
They're our space brothers coming to protect the President from all the haters and libs. Oh, it's happening, now. Bet on it. Check fucking mate.
You are welcome on my lawn.
The ISS orbit is so low it is within the upper reaches of our atmosphere. That is why it has to be given regular boosts to keep it in orbit. Though super thin, it does encounter enough atmosphere to induce drag.
Just as we have found unusual organisms in the deepest oceans and even miles down in rock, we should expect to find bacteria at the limits of our atmosphere and even beyond. It should also be expected that they have evolved dramatically, as organisms living off of heat and sulfur deep in our oceans have done.
There are some out of this world organisms right here at home. I'm not even sure how you could prove extraterrestrial origin. Almost anything you find could just be evidence of a previously undiscovered unique ecosystem 100+ miles up.
It's sort of neat to imagine the possibility of some life form surfing around on the auroras in the thermosphere.
ISS har for 20 years been orbiting - a close distance - around a planet with gazillions bacteria an microbes, and been visited by more than a hundred people, and it was lanuched through the atmosphere containing lots of microscopic life, and as soon as bacteria is found on the outside, it is considered likely to be of alien origin?
Gimme a break!
I would be very surprised if we could keep it completely clean from earthly contaimination, even if we are talking about the outside.
They will also learn that the Cigarette Smoking Man does, in fact, smoke on the ISS.
What does "not there at launch" mean? The ISS has had multiple modules installed over the course of many years, almost 20 at this point. And bacteria is notoriously hard to kill. Martian probes undergo a thorough sterilization before launch just to avoid contamination of mars by earth bacteria, and between scrubbing and radiation and vacuum and etc. Nasa still isn't sure they've killed all of it. And yes bacteria can survive in space.
All of this makes it seem fantastically likely that, hey it's just earth bacteria. Stuff can grow almost anywhere.
This 'bacteria' will be analysed and found to be a mixture of borscht and jizz.
I was under the impression that lots of service craft come into contact on a regular basis. It's not hard to imagine organic material taking a ride on most of those. So it's just a question of how easy the contaminant transfer becomes.
I heard about this. Doesn't end well for the ISS crew.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
https://science.slashdot.org/s...
Is it so much of a stretch to assume that these same high-flying bacteria are the ones caked on the ISS?
If you gave me a choice between a printer and a giraffe with explosive diarrhoea, i'll get my ladder and my raincoat
So, he said that the bacteria could have come into space from the planet around which the space station orbits, or it could have come to the space station from an extraterrestrial origin. It sure sounds more exciting not to report the first part of what he said. It's like me saying that the CDMA providing my internet could have come from the local tower which I can't see, or it could be hijacked as part of a technologically perfect mitm attack done by a hovering extraterrestrial broadcaster that I also can't see. So, slashdot commenter reports "Space aliens could be hijacking my internet." Another example would be Publisher's Clearinghouse writing "You may already have won!"
Edgar Mitchell saw seven-foot alien monsters walking on the moon. Or something like that.
Pitiful Russians. USA wins!
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It's called Panspermia, if it really is non-terrestrial, but odds are very high that it's terrestrial.
Despite sterilization we have found bacterial colonies many times on our space hardware, and they've always been from Earth.
Not only does it only take a single bacteria to survive and reach that location, as the article mentioned, there are things that can loft microorganisms to insane altitudes. I have doubts they can go as high as the space station, but there are rockets they can hitch a ride on, and again, it only takes one to start a colony.
Don't forget that "just because it wasn't there before" only means that it was undetected for some reason, maybe because it was too small.
And also, even if they don't have a match to a known terrestrial DNA sequence, still doesn't mean it's alien. It could just be that their database isn't complete. Actually we know the database of microbial DNA is not complete, so that's a given.
Now if it doesn't match anything from Earth, and it's not close enough to be related to any known microbe, and an analysis of it's DNA doesn't show any real matches of any terrestrial DNA sequences at all, then it might be alien. (There are lots of shared sequences among all life on Earth, since they all share common ancestors, it's just some are more closely related than others.)
If it's DNA uses something other than AGCT or AGCU, then it's almost guaranteed it's non-terrestrial/alien.
Someone beat you to an Andromeda Strain comment a long time ago on this thread.
A few years ago there was a woman in Germany that seemed to have been involved in all kinds of spectacular crimes, mostly murder. Her DNA was found on various crime scenes that seemed totally unrelated, She must have been the most wanted criminal for a while and was called the "Phantom". There was a $400,000 reward put on her head
Of course it turned out in a slightly different way than police had expected. The DNA that was found was actually from a female factory worker packaging the cotton swabs that were used by German police to collect DNA, so these DNA traces were simply a contamination. Here is the whole story: http://content.time.com/time/w...
You can expect something similar from the bacteria on the ISS. Everybody of course wants some spectacular news, but unfortunately there are far more mundane ways how the bacteria could have ended up there.
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Because bacteria can travel through interstellar space and hit a space station orbiting Earth, but bacteria can't travel a few thousand feet from Earth to a space station.
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Agreed. Imagine you have an 8 inch volleyball, drenched with syrup. A quarter of an inch away, almost touching the syrup-coated volleyball, there is a coin and you find microscopic traces of syrup on the coin. How do you guess the trace of a syrup got on the coin?
Most likely, it came from the big ball of syrup right next to the coin. Or maybe somehow syrup came in from outside and got on the coin, without ever making it 1/4 inch further to get in the volleyball. Which seems most plausible?
That's the scale we're talking about with ISS. Earth is 8,000 miles diameter, 25,000 miles circumference. The atmosphere extends to 6,200 miles up (exosphere). ISS is below the exosphere, in the thermosphere. ISS is only 250 from the surface - nearly touching the ground.
As someone else hinted, IIS is also travelling 18,000 miles per hour. At that altitude, there are roughly 4,000,000,000 air molecules per cubic meter*. Meaning ISS is colliding with billions of air molecules per second. It would be surprising if they didn't get a bug on the windshield.
* Yeah I used imperial and metric in the same post. Get over it.
If it's DNA uses something other than AGCT or AGCU, then it's almost guaranteed it's non-terrestrial/alien.
Or if doesn't use DNA, or if the *entire* genome is different to anything we've ever seen before, etc.
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More likely it came from one of the dozens of space vehicles to have docked with the ISS over the years.
The next time a long-range sample return mission like the recently launched OSIRIS-REx is sent up, it could include a surface collection system to trap dust it encounters enroute. If panspermia is hiding in this stuff, revealing it in dust collected far from Earth's atmosphere would be much better proof, especially if the findings correlate with analysis of the returned sample itself. OSIRIS-REx will sample the surface of an asteroid, so whatever it finds will have been sitting out there for eons. That ship has sailed, but there will be other sample return probes.
It would not be that difficult for a private party to send up a special-purpose Earth-orbital mission to spend a year or two well outside the atmosphere exposing a collection surface, then return. OR...trap and return an old, dead geosynchronous satellite.
Hard to believe any bacteria could survive the collision velocities involved with an orbiting object, whether they floated in from space or up from the atmosphere. They were there when it launched.
The bacteria is not alien, it comes from north Korean missile launches.
Now you may argue that there is little difference between alien and north Korean, but north Korea is still on Earth.
I for one, welcome out new bacterial overlords.
I'm not saying it's aliens, but...
>That ship has sailed, but there will be other sample return probes.
Isn't it kind of awesome to live in an era where you can say that, with confidence, we're going to bring back more stuff from space to have a look at it?
I still want my O'Neill cylinder and Orion drive, though.
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The sort of mutation that you might expect to find in an environment with tons of radiation flying around?
I for one hail our new bacteria overlords
Bacteria that had not been there during the launch of the ISS module were found on the swabs,
Umm, how would they possibly know that the bacteria was not there? It's not as if they have some means of sterilizing on the launch pad and It's not hard to show how a previously unknown bacteria could have been missed. Not to mention that there is such a thing as mutations, particularly in a high radiation environment.
So they have flown from somewhere in space and settled on the outside hull.
Unless they have some means to conclusively rule out all sources of terrestrial contamination (and they do not) then this is the same sort of idiotic thinking that makes people think a UFO = alien visitors when they are forgetting what the U in UFO stands for.
They cannot be illegal aliens, as they have not yet migrated to any country. The ISS is in a sense exterritorial.
Hehe, Panspermia. Reminds me of this college party gotten out of hand...
Let's go back to the rock and see it at 440. Hey I welcome any news stories that remind me of fun books.
...or it came from the Earth following a large ejection of material when the Moon and any number of large meteors slammed into the Earth.
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Ripley, we've lost contact with the colony on the ISS.
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"They cannot be illegal aliens, as they have not yet migrated to any country. The ISS is in a sense exterritorial."
The article states, that a cosmonaut said it, so the illegal alien bacterium must come from the American 'sector' of the ISS.
Hell, living cells originating from a spark of life on the surface of the ISS is more likely than "they came from outer space." There's at least likely to be organic molecules of terrestrial origin on the surface of the ISS that COULD organize into cells. That seems plausible. "Microbes being projected across the solar system to land on the ISS where they grew on nothing" does not.
Still much much much less likely than regular old earth microbes of course, but if you're going to come up with a second guess, "it's aliens" is still nowhere close.
"There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans, that they may have been the architects of the Great Pyramids, or the lost civilizations of Lemuria or Atlantis.
Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now fight to survive - somewhere beyond the heavens!"
And, while interesting, it's also basically unprovable. We can't prove that the bacteria didn't come from Earth, at best we can prove that we've never seen that bacteria on Earth. We also can't prove it did come from Earth, at best we can prove that it exists on Earth.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Pretty please don't bring a sample home.
Half baked movies about 300 lb. cockroaches from space taking over Earth can make a decent low budget horror movie. But bacteria from space taking us out just isn't worthy of being in a low budget flick.
My money is on it's just an earth bacteria that's undergone some mutations while in space.
Would definitely be exciting if it's really not from earth. Would definitely have to study it extensively.
Maybe today, but how long will that last?
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What about the suits they wear when doing an EVA? Bacteria gets transferred to the suit during handling and then attaches to the ISS during a spacewalk.
APK, you are a lying, ignorant, willfully dishonest, no-class, spamming, racist, moronic cunt with nothing to offer anyone. Again, I have zero time for someone as worthless as you. Stop wasting your own obviously worthless time by trying to stalk me around the site you dumb sack of shit.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Hey NYCL, it's ok. APK's a bot. He told me himself. Well, his bot did.
https://slashdot.org/comments.... - proof ;)
"Freedom in the USA is not the ability to do what you want. It is the ability to stop others from doing what THEY want"
I seem to remember something about a pee-sicle happening in the past up there.
Which implies that human waste is ejected from the ISS into space.
I know that when I pee out of my moving car, it gets all over the car!
I never checked the bacteria there, yet there does sometimes seem some strange crap on my car that is NOT from my pee!
Yet, on a serious note, whether from earth-based human activity or not, it does seem that life from elsewhere in the universe should not be a surprise.
Self-importance and self-indulgence is the root of ALL evil.
That's really flattering that you're thinking about me for hours, but really, fuck off. You're a lying racist no-class no-talent cunt. You have nothing to offer me except wasted time.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
...from this bacteria, but rather you will catch a cyan, named so because the snot you produce will be the color cyan.
You're an idiot. Having class has nothing to do with calling you a cunt, class is either something you have or you don't. You do not have it, as you make clear at every available opportunity. You have never had it, and you never will. Me calling you a cunt has nothing to do with that. I'm only calling you a cunt because you're a cunt.
And honesty has fuck-all to do with a login name, you emotionally-stunted logic-challenged moron. You have never once won an argument with me, and you never will, because you take lying to the extreme. You have no idea what it even means to be truthful, you make up your own fantasy and then act like it's reality. Look at your post, "eating my words", no man that's your fantasy. You just like to act like your delusions are truth. That's why you post acting like people other than yourself for no apparent reason but then insist those are actually other people. I've even seen you thank yourself. It's pathetic fantasy. You build a fantasy world and then you act like it's real. You make claims about other people without knowing the first thing about them and whether or not those claims could possibly be true, but you don't give a shit because you have no fucking clue what it means to be honest or have integrity so you make up whatever shit you want to make up and then try to convince other people and yourself that these things are true. In other words, you lie to everyone, and you even know you do it. You know you're a lying sack of shit but you have so little self-worth that even though you know you're lying you still do it anyway. That's why no one can ever believe anything you say or claim, because you will obviously lie about any and everything if it makes you feel better about your own sad little life. It must feel like shit to know that after you die you're going to leave no legacy and the only people who will be at your funeral are those with some sort of familial obligation instead of people who genuinely cared about you and want to mourn, but man you need to find a more constructive way to deal with that than going online and spouting off lie after lie after lie. Maybe if you didn't lie all the fucking time you'd be able to hold together a decent relationship. Maybe another human being would be able to stand you. It's a stretch, but it's possible. Unfortunately though I think you are completely without any redeeming qualities whatsoever. If you have ever demonstrated even a single redeeming quality it hasn't been apparent.
And look at that, I'm already way over my weekly quota of time spent dealing with a pathetic emotionally-retarded socially-inept no-class willfully-ignorant integrity-lacking lying spamming racist cunt. Looks like you'll have to fuck off again, you stupid, stupid person. My own fantasy of one day causing you to actually examine your own behavior and realize why everyone hates you continues to elude me, as you more and more appear to be completely incapable of anything approaching logical rational thought. In conclusion, go fuck yourself, because you're the only person who ever would.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
I have no idea what that non-sequitor about Marino is supposed to imply. You are not exactly the Dan Marino of programmers. Or of anything, with the possible exception of lying. APK, you are the Dan Marino of lying.
Per your 'FoAmInG-@-tHe-MoUtH" reply
This is what I mean when I talk about the fantasy world you live in. I don't think you have ever once correctly attributed any sort of emotion to me, everything you say about me is 100% made up in your head. In other words, pure fantasy. It's probably projection that you think I'm in any way angry or upset when I write things like that.
For me they are, concrete verifiable undeniable REALITY
What, a few people saying your program doesn't suck? OK, quick reality check. Your program makes HTTP requests, sorts and filters text, and writes to a file. This is not exactly rocket surgery. But, for some reason it's what you're so proud of, it's literally your life's work. It is at best a year 2 or 3 computer science project, and I mean that literally. "Make a program to download data, sort and filter it, and write it to a file". In my second year we had a project to do a GUI to visualize the entire OSI stack. It's not like you're doing anything groundbreaking. That's something you assign a beginning programmer to teach them about HTTP requests or file I/O. This is like the programmer of Notepad talking all this shit about how his program doesn't have any major bugs. And this program that you're so proud of? 10 major versions.
You wish you were me.
I'm happy, with my own house and car, plenty of friends, six figure job, retirement and investment accounts, beautiful wife, fulfilling job leading a team as CTO designing and implementing a program used by hundreds of thousands to millions of people. No, I do not want to trade that to be a pathetic emotionally-retarded socially-inept no-class willfully-ignorant integrity-lacking lying spamming racist cunt. If I did, I could, it's not hard to be you. I just have to develop an awful personality, regress emotionally back to middle school age, lie my ass off, and produce a basic program over 10 versions. I could have all that, there's just no reason to take such a far step backwards in life.
have "StRaNgE" delusions
Literally everything I've said about myself is true, I don't have any reason to lie to you, my life is already fulfilling, there's no reason to make anything up. I know that's foreign to you, which is why you've accused me of living in a fantasy. You know what the irony is about that? Haha, what am I saying, you're completely clueless. I'll tell you. The idea that I live in a fantasy is itself a fantasy created by you. Irony!
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
in you projecting all of YOUR FAULTS onto me
I knew that if I brought up something like projection you would immediately accuse me of it. It's the Donald Trump school of debate. Your Pavlovian response has become far too easy to anticipate.
It's always a pleasure to make you EAT YOUR WORDS
How would you know, fantasy boy, I've literally never felt like I've ever lost any argument to you? It's just your fantasy world man. I'm glad that you've managed to at least obtain some measure of respect, even if it's a complete lie and fabrication you tell yourself. Just imagine how good life would be if you didn't have to pretend that people liked and respected you.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
PROVE everything you say about yourself
It's amazing, truly. You're like a low-functioning Down syndrome puppy. All of the emotional maturity and attention span of a puppy, combined with the logic and reasoning skills of a low-functioning Down patient. It's almost adorable that you're still asking about stuff like that, as if all of my responses to that request have either never happened or just gone right over your head. It would be adorable if it wasn't so pathetic, anyway. I'm sure in your fantasy world I've just avoided that request instead of constantly giving the same answer, or you've some how "caught" me, or "won" something. Even though it's pathetic to see the insanity-level repetition that goes on in your head, I admit that it is amusing from time to time.
Anyway, thanks for the laugh.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Thanks for HELPING ME easily PROVE you're ALL "hotair blowhard bs"
You don't understand what proof means. Lack of proof is not proof of a lack. There's really no reason to try to teach logical fallacies to you though, you wouldn't understand. My consistent response to your demands for proof, and your continued demands, show that you are incapable of understanding basic logic.
Keep being so "classy" tossing those names
OK. APK, you're a pathetic emotionally-retarded socially-inept no-class willfully-ignorant integrity-lacking lying spamming racist cunt. And, I want you to know something else. I really mean that. From the heart, big guy.
Enjoy your fantasy day, I have shit to do.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
P.S.=> ... & you do have to "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" w/ YOUR TAIL BETWEEN YOUR LEGS as you EAT YOUR WORDS vs. me here too (lol) https://tech.slashdot.org/comm... [slashdot.org] - you're DYING of MALNUTRITION amicusNYCL (but then, cartoon character FAKE NAMES for obviously FAKE LIVES (see above, lol) don't have to eat & YET YOU DO hahahaha (eating your words)) - EATING YOUR WORDS != GOOD nutrition BOY, RoTfLmAo @ U... apk
It's really impossible for me to express the specific thing I feel when I read your fantasy fan-fic like that. It's a strange mix of emotions. There's some mild amusement, but also a certain amount of disgust, and obviously pity. It's a weird mix. It feels like two people looking at the same thing but one of the people is on a very high dose of hallucinogens and you realize that, while you're looking at the same thing, you're really not experiencing the same thing at all.
Have a good night cunt.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
I can't even finish reading all this bullshit. I think I cracked your code though. All the random bold and capital letters is where your fantasies are strongest, and you're trying to convince you and others that it's real. I think that's why you do that. I can't even make it through that comment though, sorry, I've read the same bullshit from you over and over and over, there's just nothing new from you any more. Your comments are all "I know you are, but what am I?" where you accuse me of the things which I point out are true about you, interjected with random fantasy bullshit from you with no basis in reality.
Whatever, it's gotten really old. You're a lying cunt, you will always be a lying cunt, and that's about all there is. There is not really any point at all trying to have a discussion with a lying cunt who is incapable of basic logic. Like I've said before, it's like trying to play chess with a pigeon. There you go, shitting all over the board and strutting around like you've won. It's just stupid. It's like trying to watch someone with a physical disability go through an obstacle course. You kind of admire them for trying to do what everyone knows they can't do, but really it's just kind of boring to watch.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
ANYONE HERE LIKE & USE YOUR WARE amicusNYCL?
Are you asking if any of our customers' users have Slashdot accounts? I wouldn't know, I don't think anyone has created "Slashdot Username" as one of their demographic fields, but I guess I could check. Why the hell is that even relevant? We've got around ~75 or so installations set up, the largest has around 350,000 users and there are a handful of small businesses which only have a few hundred or thousand users, most of the others are medium-size corporate, government, or military clients. We're around a million to million and a half users worldwide in total. I would imagine that several of them do have Slashdot accounts.
Does the likes of Malwarebytes both HOST & RECOMMEND IT as they do mine??
Why the fuck would they? Malwarebytes and my software do not have any overlap. There is no reason why that company in particular would recommend it, in fact I don't see any place on their website where they list software recommendations. I'm not involved in the marketing aspect of it, but if I search for the name of the application I see several articles written about it. The only review aggregate I see shows an average of 4 out of 5 stars. If I search for your application reviews I don't see any at all. That's ok though, don't feel bad about it, let's create a fantasy where everyone loves your absurdly basic piece of software and they respect you personally too. But speaking of hosting, we don't allow anyone else to host our software unless they're signing contracts, but I did notice something a little strange. Why doesn't your shit-hot application have its own website? It's not relevant enough to need its own website, huh?
I mean, are you setting these "standards" for me just based on things you think apply to you? OK, I can do that. APK, every single one of the 100+ government departments of the state of Arizona uses my software, how many AZ government departments use yours? Oooh, none of them do? Well fuckin' gee whiz, I guess that's proof that I'm better than you right?! APK logic right there.
Instead of calling me names HAVE SOME CLASS & be polite
And why exactly would I be polite to such a lying cunt? You don't deserve to be treated with respect, you have to earn it. You have no idea how to do that. Go back to the things you decided to try to claim about my wife and then tell me I should be polite to you, you lying racist idiot cunt.
You can claim whatever you want to, the only fact that matters with regard to you is that you lie All. The. Fucking. Time. You lie as if lying were the way to get people to respect you. You lie as if lying were the way to create a meaningful interpersonal relationship in your life. You lie because you lack the basic humanity to know how to deal with other people and interact in decent society. You lie because you're a piece of shit with no redeeming qualities, who is jealous of anyone and everyone who can manage to live a successful happy life where you've failed so spectacularly.
Sorry if I didn't respond to anything else you wrote, the bullshit that spills out onto your browser is starting to look like actual bullshit and I'm having problems reading more than a few words in.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Yet you can't prove anything you say
Of course I can, it's easily verifiable. Like I said, everything I've claimed about myself is true. Sorry that you don't want to accept that, sorry that you can't handle that anyone else's life isn't as shitty as yours.
Talk's cheap man... it boils down to THAT.
It is for you, yeah, because your word holds absolutely zero value. That's a self-inflicted wound though, I never made you lie your ass off. That's on you.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black
Not sure what the point of posting that set of quotes again is. You think I haven't seen that before? How many dozens of times have you posted that? You think that changes my opinion of you in any way? What's the fuckin' point, man? It's a fact that you lie your ass off, about anything and everything. Posting a bunch of non-sequitor quotes from other uses doesn't change that fact in any way. As far as the substance of those quotes, they read like "when I want to eat something that requires a spoon, I find that a spoon works well. It works exactly like a spoon." A bunch of glowing reviews for your text sorting program there, not that they have anything to do with anything we were talking about. Not that it matters though, this entire discussion, like everything else you touch, is fucking stupid.
"Our two-party system is like a bowl of shit looking at itself in a mirror." - Lewis Black