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Contributors To Prominent Publications Have Taken Payments in Exchange For Positive Coverage (theoutline.com)

Jon Christian, reporting for The Outline: Interviews with more than two dozen marketers, journalists, and others familiar with similar pay-for-play offers revealed a dubious corner of online publishing in which publicists blur traditional lines between advertising and public relations, quietly pay off journalists to promote their clients in articles that make no mention of the financial arrangement. People involved with the payoffs are extremely reluctant to discuss them, but four contributing writers to prominent publications including Mashable, Business Insider, and Entrepreneur told me they have personally accepted payments in exchange for weaving promotional references to brands into their work on those sites. Two of the writers acknowledged they have taken part in the scheme for years, on behalf of many brands. One of them, a contributor to Fast Company and other outlets who asked not to be identified by name, described how he had inserted references to a well-known startup that offers email marketing software into multiple online articles, in Fast Company and elsewhere, on behalf of a marketing agency he declined to name.

130 comments

  1. Oh, so you're not supposed to be doing this eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know a shrewd negotiator when I see one.

  2. Double Standard by danbert8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It drives me nuts that bloggers and small time accounts are required by the FCC to tag and make obvious their posts that include sponsored content, but the major media outlets have blatant advertising all over the place that isn't disclosed. If it's an ad, they need to start putting disclaimers on it. Any compensation be it free product or paid placement/reviews needs to be stated before and after the ad.

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    1. Re:Double Standard by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      What about having a standard logo for this, which would make it easier to identify such content? And rules about the minimum dimensions of the logo for TV/streaming, printed media and the Web?

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    2. Re:Double Standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The FCC does not regulate media content on the Internet. There is no legal requirement to tag sponsored content or disclose close relationships. The web sites or writers do it because of journalistic ethics and integrity.

    3. Re:Double Standard by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      What about having a standard logo for this, which would make it easier to identify such content? And rules about the minimum dimensions of the logo for TV/streaming, printed media and the Web?

      Is the poop emoji copyrighted?
      Maybe lose the smile though...

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    4. Re:Double Standard by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I don't think your blog is covered by the rules of the FCC. However normally it is to the blogger and the other companies to let people know what are ads vs what are are their views/opinions. The risk is if me as a blogger get paid by say LSung to prays their latest device, and the device sucks quite obviously, then my reputation as a blogger is diminished (if that is possible). Vs if I was a blogger and I was writing about something else, and there was a LSung ad for the same crappy product, being that it was placed in a way that people would know it was an advertisement, my reputation for honest evaluation isn't at stake.

      Now these big companies may be able to get away with it, because of their prestige they have some extra karma to burn in case they promote a piece of junk.

      Also sometimes it will be difficult to prove the payoff for a good review. Companies will often give free samples to the reviewers (even expensive ones), and such products may always produce a lot of press (for example every iPhone, will get news coverage) so it will be difficult to tell if Apple Paid off the news organization to cover their product, or they covered it because they deemed it news.

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    5. Re:Double Standard by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure there is a technical/bureaucratic fix for it. I suspect that if the content confirms the biases that the audience has and likes, they will accept it as true no matter how many markings or red flags you put on it. Conversely, if it challenges what they want to believe, they'll ignore it.

      I mean look at X media. How can anyone take X media seriously? Those talking heads on X media are just screaming out to be punched in the face for their hypocrisy. Meanwhile, idiots watch X media and trash on Y media, which is fair. It's despicable.

      ("X media" here = "lamestream" media and Y media = fox if you're a GOP voter, or if you understood all the words in this post, simply reverse the variables)

    6. Re:Double Standard by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

      I propose the Blowfish emoji. For a pumped up message to poison public opinion. Off course, the "speak no evil monkey" and the "money bag" are somewhat more direct.

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    7. Re: Double Standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're assuming that news media isn't entirely sponsored content. That means suppressing stories that sponsors don't like and spinning every story so that their publication is more attractive to sponsors then the competition. In short, all ad sponsored news outlets are no better than hookers trying to attract Johns.

    8. Re:Double Standard by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      How about a lemming holding a bag of cash?

      Oh no, wait....

      HYPNO-TOAD!... holding a bag of cash.

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    9. Re:Double Standard by Plus1Entropy · · Score: 2

      No, but the FTC does in certain cases. Video game reviewers, for example, have very specific and strict rules about what they must disclose. For example, if a review copy of the game was provided by a developer/publisher, they must say so at the beginning of the video. It's a fairly recent development, from what I understand.

      Here is an example.

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  3. Journalism ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... is cheaper than advertising.

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    1. Re:Journalism ... by Anonymous+Cashews · · Score: 1, Troll

      Some lazy journalist and/or editor will take a well-crafted PR statement, make a few changes and publish it as a story.

    2. Re:Journalism ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... is cheaper than advertising.

      And sleazier, too.

      At least you know when you're looking at an ad that's it a bought-and-paid-for, biased viewpoint.

    3. Re:Journalism ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember when somebody said you were a creep, so you talked about how they molested their own children? That was weird.

    4. Re: Journalism ... by reanjr · · Score: 1

      Journalists pushing ads are far more valuable than traditional advertising. Traditional (Internet) advertising is super cheap.

    5. Re: Journalism ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Agreed, and I would add that traditional (Internet) advertising doesn't work well at all.

      Procter & Gamble said that its move to cut more than $100 million in digital marketing spend in the June quarter had little impact on its business, proving that those digital ads were largely ineffective.

      Embedding ads into news stories makes sense but, just as TV shows are short on content and long on commercials, journalism will be an afterthought.

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  4. It happens by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Forbes just fired its science writer for having Monsanto ghost-write his pro-GMO articles for him. The scumbag is also a "researcher" at Stanford who has published scientific articles about how safe GMOs are.

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.c...

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    1. Re:It happens by SScorpio · · Score: 1

      At least unlike the TV show, we were able to find out who the ghost writer is.

    2. Re:It happens by lactose99 · · Score: 0

      Hope this tool loses his degree.

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    3. Re:It happens by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      But was the ghost-writer wrong, or being deceptive in his content?
      I can see someone posting an article that he didn't write under his name, a fireable offense. Being the GMO are often portrayed as the boogie man, Monsanto want to put their best foot forward.

      I am not saying Monsanto is the good guy, but you are quite bitter about this, where I haven't yet heard of any major proven problems with GMO. Sure big companies can be hiding them, this is historically a common problem. However there seems to be enough interest to get some big scientist speaking out, if there was a problem. However at the moment most of the Anti-GMO scientists after doing real research have been revising their beliefs.

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    4. Re:It happens by fulldecent · · Score: 1

      Any precedent on this happening?

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    5. Re: It happens by reanjr · · Score: 2

      You know GMOs are safe right? Or are you a gene denier?

    6. Re:It happens by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 1

      The scumbag is also a "researcher" at Stanford who has published scientific articles about how safe GMOs are.

      GMO plants are no more or less safe than other plants. The danger of GMOs is not the GMOs themselves but rather why they have been modified. Specifically, Monsanto modifies plants to be immune to extremely caustic pesticides and herbicides which can kill other farmers' crops miles away and have unquantified long-term effects on humans. What we really need is large-scale precision farming so that there is no need for pesticides or herbicides.

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    7. Re:It happens by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      I haven't yet heard of any major proven problems with GMO

      If Monsanto is willing to go to such shady lengths to have researchers say good things about their products, are you surprised that you haven't heard of any proven problems?

      Just remember how far the tobacco industry was willing to go to make people think their poison was safe.

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    8. Re: It happens by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      You know GMOs are safe right?

      Oh yes. I've read many articles in Forbes telling me so.

      http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.c...

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    9. Re: It happens by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

      Excellent, then Monsanto does not need to be paying journalists promoting their products, do they?

  5. That title is a bit long... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are the words "bribe" and "corrupted" still in modern dictionaries?

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    1. Re:That title is a bit long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, but they're just redirects to "political donation" and "business".

    2. Re:That title is a bit long... by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Ever sense 2016, these words have no meaning, neither does truth, integrity or sane.

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    3. Re:That title is a bit long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And I see "since" has been replaced by "sense".

  6. I am shocked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    gambling etc

  7. FTFY by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 4, Informative

    ALMOST ALL PUBLICATIONS will take a well-crafted PR statement, make a few changes and publish it as a story.

    FTFY. (Having spent years on both sides of the game.)

    1. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were shitting on Slashdot for 10 years before you got auto-modded to -1.

    2. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like we're supposed to believe that you'd just go away even though you've been here making thousands of bad posts a year for a decade before that. There is literally zero sympathy for you because you put yourself in this pickle under the misconceptiong that your long history meant that your karma would be impervious to retaliation if you started acting antisocial.

      Then after you antagonize people and they mock you then you cry like a baby. Nobody for a second believes that 1) You like the "dumpster fires" trolls leave in response to your comments. Obviously you hate it. 2) That you're making lots of money off your trolls. It took hundreds of comments to get you up to $600 and now you can only make 2 a day on your CDREIMER account. 3) Nobody will see your bad online behavior when you apply for a job. Quite the contrary, A google of your real name pulls up your slashdot history as well as your blog.

      Literally everything you say is untrue or even the polar opposite of whatever is true.

    3. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This user is a Pedobear Troll! Hide your chikdren and goats!

    4. Re:FTFY by thomst · · Score: 2

      xxxJonBoyxxx corrected:

      ALMOST ALL PUBLICATIONS will take a well-crafted PR statement, make a few changes and publish it as a story.

      FTFY. (Having spent years on both sides of the game.)

      Sadly, I am out of points, or else I would mod this post +1 Informative.

      As a former computer industry writer (my last gig was as a columnist and feature writer for Boardwatch Magazine, before Penton Media first turned it into a low-rent Network World clone, then folded it), I've seen this kind of thing happen all the time. We didn't do it at Boardwatch, but I sure came under considerable pressure to whore myself out when McGraw-Hill ousted Susan Breidenbach as editor in chief at LAN Times and replaced her and her entire editorial staff with ambitious rejects from PC Week.

      In fact, it was the new features editor's insistence that I "coordinate content with the front of the book" (industry journo-speak for "lightly re-write press releases from our biggest advertisers - or else") that left me no choice but to resign from LAN Times - and take my @internet column with me to Boardwatch ...

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    5. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey creimer!

      How can /. management tolerate a fool like you which openly admits he has zillions of suck puppet accounts?

      I am sure you are going to enjoy that one; Could you be the secret owner of /.?

      Anyway, here is a partial list of suck puppets accounts creimer owns. Doesn't it have a negative potential with regards to the moderation system? If you are aware of more suck puppets account, just reply to this post please.

      https://slashdot.org/~Anonymou...
      https://slashdot.org/~FatCashe...
      https://slashdot.org/~ILoveFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IHateFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IAteFatC...
      https://slashdot.org/~ITapeFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IApeFatC...

      Buzz off creimer!

    6. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree! I will keep you posted.

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    7. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except for Anonymous Cashews and FatCashewsLoveMe, the majorijtry of those accounts haven't posted a comment in six weeks. That doesn't look like an effective sock puppet strategy to me.

    8. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason creimer stops using a sock more or less once it's karma is totally stomped. I think there is no point if it doesn't have his name. They stopped giving me mod points for modding up the FatCashewsLoveMe troll

    9. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Youtube stars earn about $1 for every 500 views. You have 50 views of a video, which would mean $.10 if you pass the minimum threshhold (you won't). Even Youtube stars can earn just hundreds of dollars a year, and of course you are not going to become a Youtube star.

      In order to earn this hypothetical $.10, you took the bus to the Apple campus and spent your time taking videos, then spent your time editing the videos with music and putting them online. It doesn't seem like it's worth hours of effort to make a dime.

    10. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FatCashewsLoveMe is the guy who is into brazillian trannies
      Anonymous Cashews and the whole rest of the cashews accounts are all you. You submit the same stories, you talk the same, you talk about the same events around the same time and their anecdotes all tie into your biographical data just about as much as your normal personal bullshit stories. Fuck man we're not stupid.
      You sockpuppet constantly. Here is an example of when you fucked up and tried to sockpuppet from your normal account. Unless someone hacked your account. Did someone hack your account to post this message under your name in the 3rd person?
      cdreimer writes:

      It did I happen and creimer filed a FBI report.

      https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11206497&cid=55331269#comments

      You're a compulsive liar. Most people don't get called a liar by multiple people for years. But you think we're fucking stupid because you're autistic.

      So you can turn around call me a liar again? People have been playing that game with me for years.

      https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11044925&cid=55099967

      You seem to have trouble understanding that unsolicited denial looks suspicious. Like when you informed your hypothetical blog readers that somewhere on the internet people are suspicious of your interest in child brides. To a normal person that looks bad. Yes your blog is easy to find but since you've never taken a polygraph your clearance is probably more or less a worthless rubber stamp meaning you don't have felonies or boatloads of outstanding debt. In three years you're going to be looking for a new job buddy. Maybe you should clean up your act.

      Believe me if you had a real clearance you'd be out. They spend 3/4ths of what you make annually on investigator man hours digging up your past.

    11. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Chris, everyone knows you signed up all those cashews accounts after someone suggested it to you.

      That was me :(. I didn't mean for him to make a dozen fake accounts, I just meant he should start over with a new username on Slashdot, and stop the spamming/stupid anecdotes :(

      Chris is a 50 year old virgin who works a boring job and goes back home to live in a tiny shitty studio :(. He didn't go to High School, he doesn't have normal family relationships. Even if he doesn't have autism, his world view is so warped it's like dealing with an alien. Sometimes I worry we're all bullying the fat, weird kid, although the fact that he's a huge jerk who accuses people of molesting their own children and enjoys being a nuisance eases my conscience :(.

      That has been my blog post on Creimer for the day.

    12. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You did read the link that you posted? A three-year-old article about how YouTube advertising used to work before ISIS, PewDiePie and children caused advertisers to flee YouTube. The message then is still true today: you can't make a living off of YouTube advertising. You need multiple revenue streams to build a business for where YouTube is just one component. Since cdreimer has only 5,649 views (congrats on getting the fifth subscriber today to use Social Blade), his account doesn't qualify for monetization under the new rules (10K views). He's probably going to take what he learned from Slashdot to build a bigger audience on YouTube and push affiliate links to make substantially more money than advertising revenues.

    13. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does releasing a video which you put hours into and has 50 views help your overall revenue stream? Please be specific.

      You are an obese 50 year old man. If you want to make money, in all honesty, make vlogs where you eat enormous amounts of food while wearing gym clothes and bragging about your physique. Claim your are "bulking" for your powerlifting routine. Engage with all the people who make fun of you, like you do here on Slashdot. You seem to enjoy being insulted, so why not?

    14. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does keeping your head jammed up your ass work for you? (Hint: Not every person commenting is Chris.)

      YouTube is a long-tail marketing business. The rewards come in over time.

    15. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much time do you have left, Chris? When was your last checkup?

    16. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That wasn't a specific answer, Creimer, so I'm inferring here...your strategy is to post lots and lots of videos which all only get 50 views, because eventually this adds up together to make more money that a Youtube star?

      This strategy is insane. For one thing, it takes you hours to make a single video.

    17. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He better hope he dies soon, because his retirement strategy is hoping that a bunch of low-view-count Youtube videos give him a steady income stream.

      It's somehow even stupider than digging through bus depots for uncashed lottery tickets. How is he going to afford an underage sweet thing?

    18. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is he going to afford an underage sweet thing?

      Rough guess based on his YouTube PM channel is that he has 300+ ounces of silver. Melt value is $4,812 at $16.04 per ounce spot.

    19. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My earlier metrics seemed to suggest creimer has 4 consistent trolls.
      Myself, CashewsSuggestor , TrannyBbwAppreciator, and creimer.

      If neither of you are Lilly or FakeFuck I guess we can add two more but I suspect there is perhaps an extended cast of a dozen or so part time creimer trolls. Creimer himself is of course his own worst troll. If anyone else were doing the sort of things to chris that he does to himself I'd say they were crossing the line. But you can't keep someone from oversharing.

    20. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's kind of odd that you would mention those two specific user names.... If you know nothing about any of these cashews accounts, why would you feel the need to make a distinction like that, Chris?

      Hmm?

    21. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So enough to last him a couple months if he loses his job? What's the going underage sweet thing rate?

    22. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Silver is "hard" savings (i.e., hard to liquidate on short notice). You hold it for 5, 10, 20 or 40 years. If PM and oil trade places in 2020, expect silver to decline to $5 per ounce and oil to become more expensive. Creimer will be retiring during the next 20-year flip in 2040, selling offf silver to pay for his retirement.

    23. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "We buy gold" places also buy silver, it's incredibly easy to liquidate on short notice. Personally I could walk a couple blocks. Anyway, only a weirdo survivalist actually buys the silver; you should buy a silver fund, instead.

      Now you plan to retire off of $4,800 in savings? It's a drop in the bucket. Even if it goes up to an all-time high, ever, and you manage to sell right at the peak, it'll be less than $30K. You shouldn't base your retirement on what amounts to a gamble, and $30K really isn't enough for you to retire on. You are obsessed with get-rich-quick schemes you read on the internet, the sort of thing old people get tricked by. Just getting a better salary and moving somewhere with a better cost of living would be much more effective.

    24. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you should buy a silver fund, instead.

      The supply of "paper silver" is four to six times larger than the supply of physical silver. If the market ever crashes and someone tries to claim the physical silver that the paper, tough shit. Silver isn't real unless you can put your hands on it.

      You shouldn't base your retirement on what amounts to a gamble

      Pray that the stock market doesn't crash before you retire. The value of 401ks dropped by 50% during the Great Recession. People who had to retire and sell suffered the most. Those who didn't have to retire had to wait ten years for the recovery. The average person will experience two recessions and one depression.

    25. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pray that the stock market doesn't crash before you retire.

      Personally, I'll be OK. But what you're saying has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that less than $5K in a shiny metal isn't really a retirement plan. Not even worth mentioning. By your age you should have six times your annual salary saved, instead you're talking about what's basically a pittance.

    26. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I found especially funny is when creimer signed up his first cashew account, and we spotted him as easily as a Terminator with rubber skin.

      Then he signed up all these other ones instead of learning from his mistake! That's what I love about Chris, his capacity to misunderstand almost anything

    27. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thought your $600 was coffee money? If each comment you made took 2 minutes of effort, to dig up your links, to find something to respond to. And least of least of all... thinking of what you're going to say. You could have made 1650 at your hourly rate or 2475 at a typical overtime rate. This means slashdot has robbed you of 1875 dollars!!!! Why is it so hard for you to understand that if your rate of return isn't $40/hr or higher. Maybe you shouldn't even waste your time. You never even finished your security+ book in time to get the everlasting certification. You could have had that gay shit for life.

    28. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What sort of side business is possibly helped by releasing a video of the Apple Campus cafeteria, especially when it only gets 50 views?

      You're getting old and have basically no savings and in all honesty you're probably going to be sleeping on the streets in your future. You should be working more and saving your money, not spending $600 on video equipment to make more videos which get only 50 views. An iPhone is fine for these sort of casual videos.

    29. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey creimer!

      How can /. management tolerate a fool like you which openly admits he has zillions of sock puppet accounts?

      I am sure you are going to enjoy that one; Could you be the secret owner of /.?

      Anyway, here is a partial list of sock puppets accounts creimer owns. Doesn't it have a negative potential with regards to the moderation system? If you are aware of more sock puppets accounts, just reply to this post please.

      https://slashdot.org/~Anonymou...
      https://slashdot.org/~FatCashe...
      https://slashdot.org/~ILoveFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IHateFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IAteFatC...
      https://slashdot.org/~ITapeFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IApeFatC...

      Buzz off creimer!

    30. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey creimy-dumpty!

      How can /. management tolerate a fool like you which openly admits he has zillions of sock puppet accounts?

      I am sure you are going to enjoy that one; Could you be the secret owner of /.?

      Anyway, here is a partial list of sock puppets accounts creimer owns. Doesn't it have a negative potential with regards to the moderation system? If you are aware of more sock puppets accounts, just reply to this post please.

      https://slashdot.org/~Anonymou...
      https://slashdot.org/~FatCashe...
      https://slashdot.org/~ILoveFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IHateFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IAteFatC...
      https://slashdot.org/~ITapeFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IApeFatC...

      Buzz off creimer!

    31. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CREIMER' SUBMISSIONS UPDATE:
      Note also that creimer is trying to regain karma by getting his submissions published as articles on /. so make sure to go to:
      https://slashdot.org/~cdreimer
      https://slashdot.org/~Anonymou...
      https://slashdot.org/~FatCashe...
      https://slashdot.org/~ILoveFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IHateFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IAteFatC...
      https://slashdot.org/~ITapeFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IApeFatC...
      and mod down his submissions as well. The great thing is that you don't even need mod points to mod down a submission, just click on the "minus" icon!

      creimer wrote:

      I don't bother with mod points. I'm doing something much more sinister. It took ten story submissions ? I'll have to double check the number ? to move cdreimer's karma from neutral to excellent without ever being exposed to the capricious mods. Mmmmmwwwwahahahahahahaha!

      https://slashdot.org/comments....

      Danger, Will Robinson, Danger! Creimy is posting more than 2 posts a day. Hurry! mod down otherwise /. will go to hell again!

      Note: you can mod down even if already at -1 to lower karma and to prevent lost /. users to accidentally mod up.

      creimer wrote:

      All you need to do is find a website with a permissive TOS, say, Slashdot, create a Python script to scrape your own comments, sprinkle Amazon affiliate links in various posts, and then re-post past links whenever possible. Won't be long before you start making "coffee money" each month.

      https://slashdot.org/comments....

      C.D. Reimer is a renowned Slashdot collaborator, as he puts it himself; "Because of the quality of my posts and my article submissions, I'm a highly rated commentator and moderator."

      But does anybody ever wondered what "C.D." stands for? Well, it stands for Creimy Dumpty of course!

      Creimy Dumpty sat on the wall,
      Creimy Dumpty had a great fall.
      All the king's horses
      And all the king's men
      Couldn't put Creimy Dumpty
      Together again.

      Creimy's siblings video and theme song, very realistic, especially the pants, just like Creimy's:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      With "Vice President Pence Vowing US Astronauts Will Return To the Moon", we are sure they will need miracle workers up there, here is what it would look like. Note that Creimy takes care of bringing a lot of food to the moon as depicted below:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Creimy's real pictures:
      Before the sex change:
      https://ibb.co/cc7Ddw
      After the sex change:
      https://ibb.co/gVad65

      Creimy's "enterprise-level" chair, he talks about it all the time on slashdot:
      http://www.keynamics.com/image...

      Creimy's head, while his supervisor was talking to him, not with him, since it is impossible to do with Creimy:
      http://ibb.co/mRVSaG

      Creimy acting in educational resource document, he actually confirmed himself on Slashdot that he was handled by Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education! He is really a king Dumpty!:

    32. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CREIMER' SUBMISSIONS UPDATE:
      Note as well that creimer is trying to regain karma by getting his submissions published as articles on /. so make sure to go to:
      https://slashdot.org/~cdreimer
      https://slashdot.org/~Anonymou...
      https://slashdot.org/~FatCashe...
      https://slashdot.org/~ILoveFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IHateFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IAteFatC...
      https://slashdot.org/~ITapeFat...
      https://slashdot.org/~IApeFatC...
      and mod down his submissions as well. The great thing is that you don't even need mod points to mod down a submission, just click on the "minus" icon!

      creimer wrote:

      I don't bother with mod points. I'm doing something much more sinister. It took ten story submissions ? I'll have to double check the number ? to move cdreimer's karma from neutral to excellent without ever being exposed to the capricious mods. Mmmmmwwwwahahahahahahaha!

      https://slashdot.org/comments....

      Danger, Will Robinson, Danger! Creimy is posting more than 2 posts a day. Hurry! mod down otherwise /. will go to hell again!

      Note: you can mod down even if already at -1 to lower karma and to prevent lost /. users to accidentally mod up.

      creimer wrote:

      All you need to do is find a website with a permissive TOS, say, Slashdot, create a Python script to scrape your own comments, sprinkle Amazon affiliate links in various posts, and then re-post past links whenever possible. Won't be long before you start making "coffee money" each month.

      https://slashdot.org/comments....

      C.D. Reimer is a renowned Slashdot collaborator, as he puts it himself; "Because of the quality of my posts and my article submissions, I'm a highly rated commentator and moderator."

      But does anybody ever wondered what "C.D." stands for? Well, it stands for Creimy Dumpty of course!

      Creimy Dumpty sat on the wall,
      Creimy Dumpty had a great fall.
      All the king's horses
      And all the king's men
      Couldn't put Creimy Dumpty
      Together again.

      Creimy's siblings video and theme song, very realistic, especially the pants, just like Creimy's:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      With "Vice President Pence Vowing US Astronauts Will Return To the Moon", we are sure they will need miracle workers up there, here is what it would look like. Note that Creimy takes care of bringing a lot of food to the moon as depicted below:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      Creimy's real pictures:
      Before the sex change:
      https://ibb.co/cc7Ddw
      After the sex change:
      https://ibb.co/gVad65

      Creimy's "enterprise-level" chair, he talks about it all the time on slashdot:
      http://www.keynamics.com/image...

      Creimy's head, while his supervisor was talking to him, not with him, since it is impossible to do with Creimy:
      http://ibb.co/mRVSaG

      Creimy acting in educational resource document, he actually confirmed himself on Slashdot that he was handled by Special Education for the Santa Clara County Office of Education! He is really a king Dumpty!:

    33. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot IPrayFatCashewd (note the 'd' at the end). Did anyone notice that Anonymous Cashews submitted a story and all the cashew accounts voted it up. The cdreimer account didn't vote on the submission. Maybe the cdreimer and cashews are separate?

    34. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for that Sir! ;-)

      This has been added to creimer's git repository.

      --
      Balena!

    35. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I have no possibility of becoming a YouTube star. "

      FTFY

    36. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only if you have multiple personalities, Chris. Your main personality is already so repulsive that it's beyond understanding that one tiny brain could have two of you in it!

    37. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love when you prattle on like some sort of social media expert.
      Dude you are already exactly where YOU, being an old, fat, white, socially maladjusted, autistic man will make the most money. Working in some IT backroom somewhere. Which is not bad really.

      In the grand scheme of the world so far, throughout history, being born an autistic white man in silicon valley is a perfect opportunity for you. Your social issues would hold you back in almost any other profession in any other place, maybe even at any time. But you live in a nice place with excellent earnings potential.

      Yet you squander this all in order to chase "revenue streams" dude look at who makes this money. It's mostly young, attractive, women, who have good people skills. You are none of these things. Sure you can find a fat guy or a ugly woman or whatever but it holds a certain sort of person is more likely to be successful doing all this stupid net 2.0 jibberish you constantly spout out on.

      Finish your security+ book you idiot. There has never been a better time to many money for slightly intelligent retard with awful social skills than now. There is a huge demand for even the most pathetic cyber expert but you're going to compete against every early 20s kid who lives at home and doesn't want to get a job. Ok good plan bro.

    38. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone have links to the comments where creimer was supposedly dox'd and "russian schoolboy dickpix" were supposedly posted on a russian imageboard/russian gay dating site/whatever else he's made up?
      I heard there was a version with old gay bears. I'd like that one if you have it.

      His backcatalog is massive and I don't really feel like going through it all/.

  8. Like "the ten best" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    When I see a magazine or website featuring "the 10 best" of anything, I assume, unless otherwise stated, the criterion for listing is actually "the ten best affiliate sponsors". There may or may not be laws about truth in advertising, but it looks like, if you don't admit its advertising, you are exempt from having to tell the truth.

    "There are lies, damned lies, and websites!"

    1. Re:Like "the ten best" by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Normally this is click bait more then anything else. And it is the 10 best based on what they know about, and they didn't do a lot of real research to find this no-named brand which is actually superior.
      Top 10 Cell phone I will classify iPhone 8, iPhone X, Samsung Galaxy 8, Samsung Galaxy Note 8, Google Pixel 2, Essential Phone, Razor Phone, I would probably need to look up what LG has and perhaps Nokia. To seem like I am being fair I would make the most popular phone (iPhone X or the Galaxy Note 8) in the middle, Perhaps putting the lesser known model like the Razor as #1 then put the ones I never heard of around the bottom, then give a shocker with say the iPhone 8 as the last one.

      I may have only used one of these phones, but that doesn't stop me from making a list in an order, and using ever changing criteria for each one.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    2. Re:Like "the ten best" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Nokia 8 looks really good, and with their support it will have better longevity than anything else besides the iPhones and Pixels.

    3. Re:Like "the ten best" by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      When I see a website featuring "the ten best" of anything, I assume that they divide it into twelve pages, each 80% advertising.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  9. Business Insider? Mashable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I am shocked and appalled that these quality publications would behave this way. That is Uber irresponsible. Perhaps Facebook and Google can use their groundbreaking AI technologies to detect this kind of thing.

    1. Re:Business Insider? Mashable? by lactose99 · · Score: 1

      Journalism

      Little, yellow, different.

      --
      Fully licensed blockchain psychiatrist
  10. I'm shocked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shocked, I tell you, that this would happen in the golden age of internet freedom!

  11. GG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is what GamerGate was *supposed* to be instead of a bunch of ignorant manbabies getting all butthurt because designers and publishers dared add stuff like diversity and positive female character portrayal to games.

    1. Re:GG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sorry to burst your bubble, kiddo, but that's what GamerGate actually was. The people who stood to benefit most from the corruption were feminists and social justice warriors. They used that corruption to pressure journalists into discrediting and dismissing the people trying to unmask it. They also astroturfed the snot out of GamerGate in the negative direction.

      You see, it's like Anonymous: there's no "leader" and no controls over who decides to put on a "#GamerGate" shirt, so anyone can claim to be "in GamerGate" just long enough to say some heinous shit for a screenshot and discredit it. SJW supporters gladly tweeted heinous shit similar to "I'll have this Pokemon code for [game consoles] and I'll give it to you if you tweet "The holocaust was fake #GamerGate" which desperate little kids who don't give a fuck gladly did. Oh look, now "#GamerGate is a bunch of Holocaust deniers, see, here's TONS of proof!"

      The real problem is that so many people are so trusting of bullshitters and so short on critical thinking skills that they bought the SJW-media complex astroturfing and false flagging campaigns hook, line, and sinker, and encouraged others to do the same because they're clearly totes super knowledgeable about these issues and well-informed, you guys!

      Don't blame other people for your own inability to brain. Here, have some videos on this subject by an actual game developer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    2. Re:GG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By the way, in case you want a shred of proof that such false flag tweets existed, here's one of them and the kid(s) who took "autisticweeb" up on it.

  12. This is why a country needs by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    a solid public education system. I've long since learned to spot this stuff. But I _learned_ that. It took years and several hard working and very good teachers. You're always going to have this kind of stuff. Every couple of years a few of the more obvious ones get caught. What you need is a system that teaches people to catch it and respond accordingly. In other words, teaches critical thinking skills. Yes, they can be taught. If it doesn't come naturally it's hard to teach and takes years, but it can be done. And even if you're somebody who just 'gets it' naturally it's worth it to you to pay for the ones who it goes whooshing over their heads to get it to. You don't want an electorate that's easily manipulated.

    --
    Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
    1. Re:This is why a country needs by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

      Education helps, but experience helps more. In fact, formal schooling (at least primary and secondary education) is a pretty bad forum to learn to be skeptical. The mechanics of the whole process are predicated on reading or listening and believing. You can be told to take everything with a grain of salt until it's the background chorus for your dreams, but it's just another thing you've been told, right along with American history and redox reactions and Shakespearean sonnets. It's not until you go out into the working world and see the consequences of credulity for yourself that you're likely to understand the difference between what you're told and what is.

    2. Re:This is why a country needs by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I don't think the public education system is terribly interested in teaching critical thinking skills. From what I've seen over the last several decades it feels like its gone in the opposite direction (or perhaps I'm just more aware of the problem and it was always there) and engenders notions such as not questioning authority and adhering to whatever is taught from the textbooks. I don't think it's any kind of overarching conspiracy on the part of the government or anything like that, but just a lot of overall intellectual laziness or pettiness from individual teachers that want to push their own dogma on students whether it's anti-scientific stuff like creationism or some new kinds of idiocy like white privilege.

      Also, I think a lot of people don't really want to think critically. Actually doing so eventually means your mind is going to cast its critical eye inward and few people are comfortable with confronting that their own deeply held beliefs aren't entirely correct. It's far more pleasant for them to turn off their brain and live in their own misconstrued reality where they never have to change those beliefs. I think a lot of people eventually get stuck in some kind of cognitive trap where an idea becomes a sacred cow and no amount of evidence will move them from their beliefs.

    3. Re:This is why a country needs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given how far astray critical thinking has often taken us, maybe it’s time to embrace the Millennial Generation’s approach and see if it leads to even better results than the preferred methods of older generations.

  13. from the other side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    From the other side of this, as a startup founder, I get solicited weekly by media platforms interested in being paid to write a story or shoot a video focused on my company. Previously, I didn't see this as nefarious, but I am cheap, and generally waited until someone would write about us for free. I do pay a service to distribute press releases, which seems to be a very normal thing to do.

    The big exception in pay-for-publication space for me is scientific publication. I am a scientist, my company does research as part of its business and publishes that research in the same way a university would. Every time I send an article (that I've written) to a scientific journal, I pay the journal a few thousand dollars to publish it, preferably open-access. This is simply the way that market works. The peer reviewed journal system, for all it's problems, is widely seen as more authoritative than the news media, despite requiring payment for review, editing, and formatting.

    My point is simply that there are certain publishing routes that require you pay, and some that encourage payment for access, and there's no ethical problem there. It's hard, when you're not a journalist, to understand the difference between these paid media platforms and the media platforms that get offended when you ask how much the fee is.

  14. Pay for Play - whaaaa? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    If you think this practice is bad in "journalism', you really don't want to how enterprise researchers like Gartner work...

    1. Re:Pay for Play - whaaaa? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Gartner check if Forrester have already published anything on the same subject, and if they have they take the contrary position.

      Forrester's approach is completely different. Diametrically, you might say.

      --
      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  15. Name them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Name these bastards so we never have to read their crap again.

  16. Yer darn right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "People involved with the payoffs are extremely reluctant to discuss them"

    Yeah, because its illegal. Maybe not "go to jail" illegal, but individual reporters generally can't afford the fines that the FTC can levy. Plus, you know, that whole "professional integrity" thing people used to harp about. Though I hear that's rather swiftly going the way of the Dodo. (that's not a political jibe at any current officeholders, the Dodo is a bird that went extinct)

  17. No kidding by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    Propaganda reads like propaganda, no matter how much money is pissed into making it read like not propaganda.

    Here's a hint: people aren't as stupid as you think they are. They can generally tell when you're reporting as truth something they see with their own eyes is false, and vice-versa. That's why journalism gets no respect these days. Everything reads like propaganda and the only people who think it doesn't are the bubble-dwellers in NY, SF, and DC who write it and hand out almost exclusively with other people who write it. It would just be impolite to pull out a sharp object in that sort of company.

    1. Re:No kidding by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Competently done propaganda doesn't read like propaganda. If you think it does, you're falling for the competent stuff.

      People think they see a whole lot more with their own eyes than they actually do. If they're told about it, and it suits their prejudices, they'll often start to believe they've seen it with their own eyes. Journalism gets no respect from people who don't want to hear the truth. It's hardly perfect, but it gets a lot right.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  18. Money, period by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When there's big money involved, the law is accomodating. Look at the spying epidemic. If it was your neighbor spying on you, tracking your whereabouts, keeping detailed recordings of who you associate with and when, it would be grounds for being charged with stalking or harrassment. But when big business does it, it's just business as usual. The difference isn't in what they're doing. The difference is in how much money is at stake.

  19. In Other News by DrSpock11 · · Score: 1

    The sky confirmed to be blue. More at 11...

    1. Re:In Other News by boudie2 · · Score: 1

      This just in, what experts believed was the last honest person died last week in Salt Lake City, Utah. This makes it official that you can't believe anything you see or hear. And speaking of things you can't believe, here's Chip with the weather.

  20. Re:ANONYMOUS CASHEWS IS CREIMER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know the whole "don't feed the trolls" but seriously will you just go away. I'm sure cdriemer is thrilled to have his very own stalker and all, but we don't need to here about your obsession constantly.

    And yes, you're far more creepy than he is.

  21. Make America Greedy Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make America Greedy Again.

  22. It makes sense. by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

    You know, the other day I was sitting in my La-Z-Boy recliner enjoying the lumbar heater while surfing the net on my high-performance MSI laptop. Just as I was cracking open a fresh Coke and salivating at the crisp 'fizzle' sound, I realized how much of the media I consume is filled with product placement.

    1. Re:It makes sense. by Gilgaron · · Score: 1

      Maybe it is just from growing up with grunge and other music that tried to eschew being commercial, but whenever I hear pop/country music I am shocked at the amount of product placement in it. Also shows where they used to use fake brands or turn the products away from the camera miraculously always have the logos pointed straight at the active camera. I had thought they filmed those simultaneously and cut it together from different angles in post but some poor bastard was making sure that beer bottle logo was visible every angle...

    2. Re:It makes sense. by Baron_Yam · · Score: 1

      That's the obvious stuff. Listen carefully to celebrity interviews and you'll often hear them drop a brand name where they don't need to. Some of them are more subtle than others, but they're all getting paid every time that name passes their lips.

    3. Re:It makes sense. by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 1

      It's not necessarily product placement. Some artists believe that by referencing a real-life brand, their work will take on a patina of authenticity or 'grit.' Look at any William Gibson novel from the past 15 years.

  23. FInally, a definition of "Fake news" by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

    Other than "Everything Trump Says"

  24. Oh come on by Big+Bipper · · Score: 1

    This is nothing but product placement by another name. We laugh at Microsoft when we see them do it on TV shows. This is no different. People just have to learn to ignore such obvious attempts when they see them.

    --
    You live and learn, or you don't learn much.
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  26. This is my suspicion too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really can't reconcile in my head how every single Web reviewer sings such high praises for those iPhone copies that now dominate Android makers, when I see lots of people asking for features instead of electronic fashion jewelry.

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  28. GamerGate was a preview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GamerGate was a preview into the macrocosm of unethical journalism (not that it was ever a secret).
    So I guess this means you're all misogynists for discussing this now too.

    Enjoy.

    1. Re: GamerGate was a preview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This began long, long before gamergate. That was just a variation on a theme. Do millennials honestly believe the world was pure as driven snow before they were born? That's a good one. You inherited the same world everyone alive did. There has never been human existence without corruption, ever, all throughout history, and in EVERY culture. We are the ones that must decide integrity is more important, just as many before us did.

  29. No - Oil Companies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not sure there is a technical/bureaucratic fix for it. I suspect that if the content confirms the biases that the audience has and likes, they will accept it as true no matter how many markings or red flags you put on it. Conversely, if it challenges what they want to believe, they'll ignore it.

    This is only true up to a point. There is LOTS of content in articles that is not obviously biased toward something the reader feels strongly about. Read a neutral article about something an oil company cares about, for example, and you often will find talking points that a firm managed to get into the article without attribution of any kind. The difference between "oil company X says Y, so not Z..."... and "there is some criticism of Z, but Y" is night and day and makes a massive difference in what people believe.

  30. Payolla Scams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This used to be known as 'payolla', feel free to research it. It's sadly nothing new. I would extend it to *everything* - online reviews, social media, you name it. There are very few honest presentations of opinion out there ( so when you encounter them, support them!) - money talks first, then people.

  31. Re: ANONYMOUS CASHEWS IS CREIMER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Worse than Hostsboy himself.

  32. #GamerGate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you believe that journalists aren't ethical then clearly you hate women.

  33. Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do we ever see Slashvertising on this website?

  34. No Sane Person Trusts Journalists Anymore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They simply put are ridiculous. Interesting to note that 90% of all Journalism graduates are female. Interesting.

  35. Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this qualify the contributors as a public relations firm?

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  40. CREIMER KARMA WHORING EMERGENCY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Warning! Creimer has submitted a story through his Anonymous Cashews sockpuppet. Please go an mod it down!! He will to try and save this sock's karma instead of just making a new account

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  42. Youtube is a waste of time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Companies are all starting to re-evaluate the value of online advertising and especially youtube. Much of it has to do with video spammers like yourself.

    It will be an awfully short tail when youtube decides your video has to have sustained traffic in order to get any cut of money. People did just fine uploading niche and random shit to youtube before people started grinding for click money. It's quite arguable that such content has become lower quality since then even.

    It may have encourage people to push a lot of content onto the network that wouldn't be there but everyone's mildly interesting back-catalog of shit is already up there, the new content is all "Jerrod iz crazyl lol" it's some little kid screaming jibberish at the camera. Next up "This is the sidewalk outside my house.. it's over 60 years old. yep" Next up; "Everywhere I go there are secret agents following me.. this one looks like a mailman"

    I mean look how much people have monetized videos for toddlers. People who have almost no buying power. (No they don't see things on youtube ads and get their parents to buy it)

    Not only that but every day you'll be competing with more and more shovel content. Meaning your pool of clicks will get smaller and smaller.

    You're just a dumb idiot chris.

    Don't forget everyone!! Downvoting chris's submissions is just the start! Make sure you vote up some other good submissions from the firehose. We need to teach chris about competition!