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Jony Ive Returns To Apple Design Management Role After Two Years (9to5mac.com)
Zac Hall, writing for 9to5Mac: Jony Ive, Apple's chief design officer, is returning to his management role within Apple's design group after handing off managerial duties in 2015. 9to5Mac noted that Ive's design deputies Dye and Haywarth were no longer listed on Apple's leadership page earlier today.
I'm greatly looking forward to a future full of function-follows-form from the good ol' days!
With a kapital C!
I'm getting worried about Apple. I'm feeling more and more of the moz://a vibe from it.
By that I mean we're seeing Apple do more and more things that they want to do, rather than giving customers what the customers desire.
We've seen moz://a do this with Firefox. While Firefox was initially developed in a way that benefited users, and provided them with a superior browser, over time we've seen the opposite happen. Changes have been made to Firefox not based on any demand or desire from users, but rather just because moz://a wants to force through their own ideas an initiatives. The end result has been disastrous: users have fled Firefox, moving to browsers that actually prioritize giving a good user experience. Firefox's share of the market has dropped from 35% down to 5%, and this has effectively made moz://a irrelevant. Worse, we've seen one failure after another (Firefox OS, Rust, Servo, Persona, Hello, Pocket, etc.) when it comes to moz://a's attempts at creating new products and offerings.
I fear that the same thing is starting to happen to Apple. I think they may have lost focus on the user, and are now going down the same path that moz://a did, of doing what they (Apple or moz://a) want to do, instead of what the customers/users want to be done.
Please, Apple, learn from moz://a's mistakes! Don't become what they become! Put the focus back on the customers and what the customers actually want, rather than trying to force agendas or initiatives on the customers!
I hope that this development helps put an end to the moz://a-fication that I think we've seen start to happen. Apple needs to return to its early 2000s roots, where the seeds of its most recent success were planted. The needs and wants of the users need to be the primary focus again.
Ah yes. The man responsible for Macbooks with non-replaceable storage (nice if the motherboard fails), soldered RAM, irremovable (glued!) batteries. And iMacs with screens stuck with strong sticky tape over the vital parts (needs a pizza roller to remove).
Oh wait! And Apple's Time Capsule. Nice little router with storage built in. Should be easy enough to remove the hard drive when it fails, right? Wrong.
You can get to the drive by popping off the bottom cover, but Apple routed wires under the drive. Disconnecting some of the wires is virtually guaranteed to break their connectors. Apple saved 50 cents and made the thing extremely hard to fix.
All hail Jony Ive, the king of user-hostile design.
Usually our complaint on /. is duplicate stories. Now weâ(TM)ve got duplicate comments coming from yesterdayâ(TM)s podcast complaint story!
Up from the depths
20 stories high
Breathes fire
but just in the sky
Godzilla..AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
During the past couple years when Apple has come out with laptops without the ports I need, or phones without headphone jacks - I figured it was Jony Ive's fault. So was it actually these other guys making those decisions?
#DeleteChrome
mac pro 2018 with non replaceable storage = no go unless apple wants to be the one that leaks that new movie when it's in's in post.
I wish that Rob Malda would return to /., and I'd even be happy if brought timothy with him. At least timothy isn't msmash!
What do the customers desire? Apple is the world biggest company with no sign of slowing.
Apples early 2000s roots.
Colorful boxes on slow processors, with all in one systems making repairs difficult, and removal of the beloved Floppy drive, and an option to add one with a USB dongle.
Or on the pro-line you have system that look much like they do today, with more or less the same manageability and upgradability.
Apple had dumped OS 9 and remade it scratch for OS X which didn't mature until the mid 2000's. While its Unix core made geeks like us, find it useful for real work, but being a desktop OS with some market behind it, made it a good compromise between a Linux and a Windows box. It success was driven by Microsoft failing, and having a number of major security and reliability problems. combined with the fact that PC Maker were playing the race to the bottom, where they kept on making cheaper and cheaper devices. Which made Apple who wasn't playing that game look good. Because while the others were shoving out crap, Apple had a good quality product.
I actually don't see much of a difference. The biggest thing is now Apple is in the #1 spot, and has massive influence.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
...While Firefox was initially developed in a way that benefited users, and provided them with a superior browser, over time we've seen the opposite happen. Changes have been made to Firefox not based on any demand or desire from users, but rather just because moz://a wants to force through their own ideas an initiatives...
I don't like $THING therefore, no one likes $THING.
Given their recent passwordless root entry debacle, maybe they should be focusing on hiring high profile QA engineers... ref: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...
It's obviously not about personal preference. Users at large really hate what Firefox has become. If users actually liked Firefox and the changes made to it, then its market share wouldn't be down at about 5%. If users actually liked Firefox for Android, then its market share wouldn't be down at about 0.25%!
There have been a lot of Slashdot submissions about Firefox 57. Read the comments. Most of them expressing an opinion about Firefox are quite negative. Users hate having their extensions broken unnecessarily, for example. They hate the UI changes. They hate Pocket and Hello. They hate what Firefox has become.
I'm not even convinced that the small number of people who claim to like Firefox truly like it. I can't be sure that they aren't moz://a contributors, for example.
There used to be a time when a new release of Firefox was something to celebrate. It got users excited, because their user experience was going to improve.
It used to be like that for Apple. A new release of a device was a big deal. People were excited for how the changes would improve their lives.
But we haven't seen that in a long time. Just look at the recent iPhone releases. The hype lasts maybe a day now, when it used to last weeks. Nobody gets excited for changes like a phone that can scan your face, just like nobody gets excited about Firefox's UI changing yet again. In fact, changes like those provoke feelings of dread in a lot of people!
Both Apple and Firefox need to return to a status quo where changes are seen as a good thing that bring real improvement.
OS X was a mature product from the beginning, thanks to its NeXTSTEP heritage. It already had many years of work and usage by the time it became OS X.
Well, I guess everything is going to get even flatter and less serviceable and upgradable.
The new 2018 MacBook Pro will have only one port called the USB-C-Flat and the case will be made of two-ply aluminum foil because everyone needs to keep their Mac in a manilla envelope. The entire machine will be made with a new revolutionary lamination process because pentalobe screws are ugly. The keyboard won't have actual keys of instead be a silkscreen over a giant touch pad. Yes, the keyboard and the touch pad will merge into one gloriously flat surface. The CPU, GPU, and RAM will be laminated into the aluminum and the whole case will become a giant glorious heatsink eliminating the needs for any fans. The battery will be a next generation ultra flat non-liquid electrolyte design. The entire $2000 compute can be recycled after two years by running it through a shredder and you can purchase another one.
Then Lenovo, HP, ASUS, and Acer will all copy this stupid new design,
I would so much like to be the head of design at Apple. I would make cool, modular stuff and there would be a Phat-Book Pro!
Johnny your ruining the laptop design world, please retire. It's time.
Apple won't let you see it up close, but you can get a really good bird eye's view using Google Maps.
#DeleteFacebook
Face recognition sounds a decision made in these two years. It is not mature enough and convenient enough. Touch ID still rocks.
^(oo)^pig~
17 " screen, real function keys, tonnes of increasable storage and memory, every port and jack known to man?
Please, Apple, learn from moz://a's mistakes! Don't become what they become! Put the focus back on the customers and what the customers actually want, rather than trying to force agendas or initiatives on the customers!
Hm. I wonder if "listening to the customer" is always 100% infallible advise.
Time for a car analogy: Let's say one makes cars. And if you listen TOO much to your customers, you'll end up with the Pontiac Aztek (poster kid of what happens when a car is designed by focus groups) or Homer's Percephone. The brutal truth is most customer's don't *know* what they want.
Prove me wrong. Just because a tech minority knows what we want doesn't mean ALL customers know. Most of them don't.. and they don't care. They think their neat idea should be implemented, even if it's the most bone-headed mistake possible.
The "Civilized World" jumped the shark ca. 1973.
And Apple didn't improve on NeXTStep at all, really. They put their new shiney on top and have been shuffling new 'new shinies' onto it since. The unix 'core' is growing more and more creaky.
If Jony Ive is involved it is dizzine, not design.
He's the Andy Warhol of Apple.
My friend learned a couple of those tricks before going to work for Apple as a tier 1 tech support guy for a year. He learned one or two extra after that, but there was a bios level one, a login screen one, and I think 1-2 privilege escalation ones, possibly usable via a guest account.
These were all known, partially undocumented tricks to allow Apple Gurus (or whatever they call them.) to appear 'magical' in fixing people's systems when they forgot the password, needed something fixed rapidly (and passwords would take too long to type, etc.) While I don't remember hearing about similiar for the iOS based devices, this has been true for Apple operating systems since at least Leopard came out if not earlier in the OSX lifecycle. And as I remember it, at least a few people migrated away from Macs after loving them during the early OSX years when these authentication bypasses were disclosed back in the 2008ish era.
Missing apostrophe and it should be 'ed', not 's'. Such slack editing.
There you are spamming youtube affiliate links with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!
You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.
Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.
How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????
The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!
You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!
When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!
Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!
Bonus:
Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:
The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!
So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!
Signed:
The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!
Unless you're being sarcastic... I don't know why you would think that's in the cards; Jony Ive is the villain that took away the beautiful icons iOS and OS X / MacOS used to have and replaced them with dull, flat, information-culled pastels reminiscent of an interior decorator's shart, not to mention being the conceptual guy who was in authority when the clueless process that brought us the abortion that is the "trashcan" Mac Pro went down.
Unless he's been off recovering from a head injury, this appears to bode very poorly for the future of everything Apple.
It's looking more and more like a big windows tower lurks in my future. Damn it.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
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Fa'ster hor'se's.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
False alarm boys. Glad we have the Creimer police to keep his bitch ass in check. What a loser.
Yeah totally the same technology creimer.
"To think nothing of symmetry and much of convenience; never to remove an anomaly merely because it is an anomaly; never to innovate except when some grievance is felt; never to innovate except so far as to get rid of the grievance."
Johnny Ive, are you alive?