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What Mistakes Can Stall An IT Career? (cio.com)

Quoting snydeq: "In the fast-paced world of technology, complacency can be a career killer," Paul Heltzel writes in an article on 20 ways to kill your IT career without knowing it. "So too can any number of hidden hazards that quietly put your career on shaky ground -- from not knowing your true worth to thinking you've finally made it. Learning new tech skills and networking are obvious ways to solidify your career. But what about accidental ways that could put your career in a slide? Hidden hazards -- silent career killers? Some tech pitfalls may not be obvious."
CIO's reporter "talked to a number of IT pros, recruiters, and developers about how to build a bulletproof career and avoid lesser-known pitfalls," citing hazards like burning bridges and skipping social events. But it also warns of the dangers of staying in your comfort zone too long instead of asking for "stretch" assignments and accepting training opporunities.

The original submission puts the same question to Slashdot readers. "What silent career killers have you witnessed (or fallen prey to) in your years in IT?"

207 comments

  1. Rape and murder. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Don't rape and/or murder your employees at work. That would really stall your IT career.

    1. Re: Rape and murder. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah we had a coworker that did both of those...the keyword is "had". He got fired for it.

    2. Re:Rape and murder. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF, why was this voted -1? You all are fucking psychos.

    3. Re:Rape and murder. by turkeyfish · · Score: 1

      Doesn't seem to be nearly as much of a problem as refusing to have sex with your boss.

    4. Re: Rape and murder. by Swave+An+deBwoner · · Score: 1

      He got fired for raping and murdering his employees at work?

    5. Re: Rape and murder. by Cederic · · Score: 1

      To be fair, I can't see a tribunal ruling that one as 'unfair dismissal'.

  2. Starting one .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Hate to say it, but starting one. I went to university for engineering ended up in I.T. -- the first firm I worked for had me doing more I.T. type work than actual engineering, and I discovered there was good money in going freelance. Fast-forward 10 years, and I'm bored.

    Now I'm going to graduate school for biochemistry and am much, much happier -- will probably end up either teaching or in medical school. I'd rather troubleshoot problems created by evolution, G-d, what have you, than clean up after bad programmers' mistakes.

    1. Re:Starting one .... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Come and work at Porter's. We'll have another couple of vacancies by the end of the night the way things are going.

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    2. Re:Starting one .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hal Porter you shameless self promoting moron.

    3. Re:Starting one .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate to say it, but starting one. I went to university for engineering ended up in I.T. -- the first firm I worked for had me doing more I.T. type work than actual engineering, and I discovered there was good money in going freelance. Fast-forward 10 years, and I'm bored.

      Now I'm going to graduate school for biochemistry and am much, much happier -- will probably end up either teaching or in medical school. I'd rather troubleshoot problems created by evolution, G-d, what have you, than clean up after bad programmers' mistakes.

      Agreed although I did it the other way around and went into IT first (without a degree) only to find it boring and dead end so I went back to finish a degree in chemical engineering and been much happier (and way better paid) since. The IT and programming knowledge does still come in useful very often given that I deal mostly with process control systems, the PE exam for it had quite a number of questions that were easy because of my previous background.

    4. Re: Starting one .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, cleaning up after G-d is also cleaning up after a bad programmer.

    5. Re: Starting one .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I implemented an AI computer vision algorithm with deep learning capabilities designed to produce the most convoluted implementation of fizzbuzz ever created.

      Been working at Google ever since!

  3. Here's one by Osgeld · · Score: 1, Redundant

    silicon valley

  4. Career assistance scams - by Bookwyrm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You know, "This one weird trick can save you from silent career killers! Just sign up for our seminar, hire our career coach, etc. to learn more."

    Definitely can ruin your life.

  5. Re:Being shot by the cops by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    This was a pest control expert, not an IT engineer. Of course, IT is its own form of pest control...

    Yeah, the video is cringeworthy -- the jury wasn't allowed to know that he had "You're Fucked" engraved on his gun. Not to mention that he looks like an angry amer-kid who brought his first-person shooting into real life.

    Ah well, the court has acquitted him, but he might still be T-boned by a drunk driver on New Year's Eve. Karma's a bitch.

  6. Hate to say it but... by TWX · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...not liking sports. Even though these grown men never played anything more than flag-football or a coed softball game they carry on about their favorite teams with the pronoun, "we," like they had something to do with the team's success. Many are huge fans of teams for whom they've never lived in the state that the team is based in and only attend games when that team comes to town for one game against the local one.

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    1. Re:Hate to say it but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of the IT guys I worked with was having a bad day, and he got a snarky attitude with a VP. I guess the VP was having a bad day too... the guy was gone the next day.

    2. Re:Hate to say it but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...not liking sports. Even though these grown men never played anything more than flag-football or a coed softball game they carry on about their favorite teams with the pronoun, "we," like they had something to do with the team's success. Many are huge fans of teams for whom they've never lived in the state that the team is based in and only attend games when that team comes to town for one game against the local one.

      It doesn't have to be sports, just have at least one interest that is not work-related that you can associate over. At my work turns out that we have quite a number of engineers and designers who are hot rod and sports car enthusiasts, I've never had to discuss football or such with them. Also quite a few hunters who were happy to bring me some game meat when they found out that I like to cook and was interested in trying some new recipes.

    3. Re:Hate to say it but... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      ...not lik^H^H^Hdoing sports
      FTFY.

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    4. Re:Hate to say it but... by antdude · · Score: 1

      Some like e-sports. :P

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    5. Re: Hate to say it but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://youtu.be/xN1WN0YMWZU
      Mitchell and Webb destroy grown men talking âweâ(TM) sport

    6. Re:Hate to say it but... by Cederic · · Score: 2

      Fuck all to do with 'liking' sports. The key here is building rapport and a relationship with your colleagues.

      You don't have to like sports, and you especially don't have to like the team they support. What matters is that they don't feel that you just don't care about them and their interests - whether that's sports, hotrod cars, cycling or anything else.

      The biggest bore I've worked with was a cycling enthusiast. Every fucking conversation was about heart rates, cadence and lycra. But he was also easy to deal with: "Hey, have a good ride at the weekend?" Then switch topics to work.

      He knows you aren't a cycling afficionado because you don't dive into the minutia he's deeply into. But you've shown you understand it's his hobby, you give him a chance to share his passion and he feels you're engaging with him.

    7. Re:Hate to say it but... by Thelasko · · Score: 1

      If you are really that concerned about it. You can try getting into the mathematics of sports.

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  7. The only real carreer killer is complacency by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Informative

    Over time in development and IT, I've seen guys who carreers stalled - but it wasn't from anything like failing to attend social events, it was just being complacent doing one thing, and not even really excelling at it but just being "the guy who does X" for years on end.

    You really do have to push to try new things, get training, or try to get some other tasks besides something that is pigeonholing you. In the earlier days of career I would even do things like take vacation and pay for my own conferences, which greatly paid off later (also sometimes I was able to get a company to expense a conference after the fact, so don't give up even if they say no). However key is that you have to try and make use of what training you get, even if it's just prototypes that show alternative ways the company could be doing things. Very often those can spring up into real projects.

    Going back around to social events, like I said I don't think they hurt your progression - but that's within a company. The thing talking to people in the company and getting to know them a bit does do, is make it much easier to find jobs later as people move on and disperse to lots of other companies. It's a great help to be thought of well by someone who works at a company you are thinking of working for, and even better having an inside person lets you invite them to lunch and ask real questions about what it is like to work there. So longer term, I don't think you have to go to every event but do make an effort to not only be friendly but also interested in the lives of those around you.

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    1. Re:The only real carreer killer is complacency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Over time in development and IT, I've seen guys who carreers stalled - but it wasn't from anything like failing to attend social events, it was just being complacent doing one thing, and not even really excelling at it but just being "the guy who does X" for years on end.

      You really do have to push to try new things, get training, or try to get some other tasks besides something that is pigeonholing you.

      This is true about any knowledge worker career, don't be the "the guy who just does X" for years on end and wonder why you get laid off when X is no longer in use and have a hard time finding new jobs that still use X.

      Going back around to social events, like I said I don't think they hurt your progression - but that's within a company.

      What I've found is that at least going to events and being well known socially gives you some extra security during lay-offs, usually the first ones to go are the loners who don't even talk about the weather as nobody, especially the bosses, even cares a wit about them unless they are really, really good at their job though I have yet to see anyone who was super good at their work and anti-social at the same time.

      The thing talking to people in the company and getting to know them a bit does do, is make it much easier to find jobs later as people move on and disperse to lots of other companies. It's a great help to be thought of well by someone who works at a company you are thinking of working for, and even better having an inside person lets you invite them to lunch and ask real questions about what it is like to work there. So longer term, I don't think you have to go to every event but do make an effort to not only be friendly but also interested in the lives of those around you.

      This is one of the reasons I try to make friends with outside sales engineers that work for me vendors, they visit so many companies and often know about job openings before they even get posted.

    2. Re:The only real carreer killer is complacency by Kjella · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm not sure how to formulate it properly but it's about provable skills vs actual skills. As in, when you're job hunting it doesn't matter if you're really good at something if nobody knows about it or nobody believes you. You get a stack of resumes and... what does it say really? From and to dates and a title. You probably have referrals, but almost everyone can get someone to speak positively about them. A short test on the interview probably says more about who's a smooth talker and how they handle a quiz than everyday work. Ideally you want tangible proofs that you're an accomplished professional or passionate developer, second best is networks and people who'll vouch for you and third are degrees, certificates and other formal papers.

      I think it also depends on how big of a niche you're in, despite living in a >100k city I find that many of the same people are circulating around the same oh, maybe 50-100 jobs. I don't feel the need to really actively "market" myself, people I've worked with in the past either at other companies or have left for other companies means then you've seeded quite a few ex-coworkers who hopefully have a good impression of you. But you have to make that impression, you can't just hide in a corner and do your own little thing. Personally I don't think I could, I got fingers in way too many pies and is actively trying to *not* get caught up in more. Mostly because I'm the one stuck cleaning up the train wrecks when things derail.

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    3. Re:The only real carreer killer is complacency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Building up an professional social network outside of the workplace is the best thing to do. Meetup groups are in most cities now, and they are the best way to meet people. The side effect is that the competition for jobs where there are meetup groups is hyper-competitive, while the companies located in remote areas or small market towns can't find anyone.

      The nightmare scenario is to be trapped in a one company town, where it is impossible to attend any kind of social events or even interviews without requiring a two hour train journey or flight. The big hazard is that a lot of directors see "recruiting bright graduates as being like trapping wild animals". Then you find yourself being bait-and-switched, blocked from get any production level experience and shunted into dead-end work.

    4. Re:The only real carreer killer is complacency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the key. You have to continue to develop new skills. You don't even have to excel in them, but become familiar with them. This will give y ou a wider few of possibly solutions, so you don't get into the "All I have is a hammer, so treat everything like a nail".

      In terms of social events, you should also demonstrate your skills. Find a local technical group (like through meetup.com) and give a few presentations. You get social/networking, and being a presenter can open up a lot more opportunities than just being an attendee.

    5. Re:The only real carreer killer is complacency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is one of the reasons I try to make friends with outside sales engineers that work for me vendors, they visit so many companies and often know about job openings before they even get posted.

      Lessons from a long career:

      Make friends of all those sales people, sales engineers and anyone they put you in touch with. Stay friendly with them. Remember, that to you they are a nuisance, but to them (and you may deal with them for five minutes), you're just one of 20 people they may meet this week. They will network in a week with more people than you will in a month.

      They always know who's hiring, or who may have a similiar network/It setup that you can jump to fairly quickly.

      Posting anon, too lazy to login.

    6. Re:The only real carreer killer is complacency by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

      Yup all of that.

      I'm in my 50's. I just dropped a two decades long career in writing software drivers to write web applications in C#.

      I did it for a couple of reasons.

      First reason - if I have to write another keyboard driver ever ever ever again, I'll murder someone. I can't do it anymore. It isn't possible to be more bored with something than I am. Doing something new - anything new - feels like a vacation.

      Second reason - growth. It's a strange rule of our profession that the things that pay best aren't the hardest to do. I don't have to read PDFs of parts and timing diagrams now. I'm fiddling around with CSS making stuff look pretty. At about a 15% pay increase. It'll be a great Christmas at my house this year.

      Always keep looking. Keep your eye on your career, your happiness, and the money. Get as informed as possible and then make the best decisions you can.

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  8. IT is the tech 'car mechanic' by Ayano · · Score: 0

    I've only had to deal with IT, but I've found the ones my company has retained tend to be those who have a great breadth of knowledge across platforms.

    Being an engineer, most of my contacts are pretty tame. I'm that guy who gets locked out of their email or intra net, or need to order a new technical setup which my department insists should be done by IT.

    The best IT guys I've worked with, I have been able to ping about remote server access questions or public key requests and they responded with a great understanding of the situation rather than just dropping details saying "I think you need this". This way I could zone in, and keep my nose down in the actual work rather than the process. I suppose they bled more into 'dev-ops', than IT. The greater question is probably 'what kind of IT'. There's server admins, database maintainers, and a whole number I'm probably glossing over; my exposure tends to be limited to department IT, the 'classical' assumed definition (correct me if I'm wrong here IT pros).

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    1. Re:IT is the tech 'car mechanic' by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Companies vary. Sometimes they hire the cheapest of the cheap IT people, with no interview lasting longer than it takes to present a Microsoft stamped certificate that proves that they have attended a class. Some companies do better here, with smarter IT up the chain away from the support desk.

      Smaller companies in my experience tend to hire better people, because each IT worker has got to manage so many more things.

      Really large companies all outsource everything, so instead of ignorant American cookie cutter IT clones, they hire cheaper foreign cookie cutter IT clones. (solution to the workers here is to stop being clones and compete on quality instead of price)

  9. Getting promoted to management by mschuyler · · Score: 2

    Career killer par excellance

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    1. Re:Getting promoted to management by ErichTheRed · · Score: 1

      Seconded...if you're not built for it, you will hate it. Been there, and have the scars. Plus, middle managers often just get hollowed out in "delayering" exercises, so there you are mid-career, unemployed, with no useful skills. Not a good place to be!

    2. Re:Getting promoted to management by mikael · · Score: 1

      I saw that myself. One previously nationalized company started to take advantage of IT to implement the "paperless office" in the 1980's. The first thing they started to do was to reduce the management hierarchy. It was 1:3 ratio of manager/subordinates. All the managers really did was get the completed tasks from the supervising engineer, put those in a spreadsheet, print them out and hand them out to the senior manager, who then signed them off and handed them up to the director. Once the new IT system (equivalent to Jira now) was installed, all that paperwork and jobs disappeared.

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    3. Re:Getting promoted to management by sproketboy · · Score: 1

      Yup. That's what destroyed Borland.

    4. Re:Getting promoted to management by MBGMorden · · Score: 2

      Yeah - my boss is retiring in a few months and I just turned down the promotion into that management position. Realistically I probably have the best overview in the department of how things work, but I'm still 15 years from retirement and I don't think I could stomach that long in management - plus it would only be a pay increase of about 10%.

      Maybe in 11 or 12 more years I'd be interested, but for now I still enjoy actual coding too much.

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    5. Re:Getting promoted to management by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      Only if
      - you aren't cut out to be a manager
      - you let your tech skills rot

      Personally, I've been a manager or director for most of the past seven years. I love it! I still write code at home to keep up with the latest developments. I relish the role of mentor and coach, and love it when I can play a role in helping my team members be successful.

  10. Missed some by ranton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Two huge ones I feel they missed are sticking with a single company without advancement for too long, and waiting for responsibility to be given to you.

    While hopping between jobs every 10 months is a big red flag for most, staying at the same company in the same role for 10 years is even worse (IMHO). Every time I meet a developer who has been at the same company for a decade while staying at a mid-level developer position, I expect mediocrity. Only once have I been wrong. In your mid 20's to mid 30's you need to be moving up in responsibility rapidly, and most of the time a non-enterprise sized company cannot keep up with enough opportunities.

    Also most coworkers I have had wait until being formally given responsibility instead of just taking it on themselves. Every time I have gotten a significant promotion my day to day responsibilities were largely unchanged. This was because I was already doing that role and the company was just making it official. I hear many coworkers complaining about how poorly their department is being run without ever finding ways they can improve it themselves without direction. If you have a boss that doesn't like this, get a new boss. But you cannot just wait for opportunities to present themselves; create opportunity.

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    1. Re:Missed some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Two huge ones I feel they missed are sticking with a single company without advancement for too long, and waiting for responsibility to be given to you.

      While hopping between jobs every 10 months is a big red flag for most, staying at the same company in the same role for 10 years is even worse (IMHO). Every time I meet a developer who has been at the same company for a decade while staying at a mid-level developer position, I expect mediocrity. Only once have I been wrong. In your mid 20's to mid 30's you need to be moving up in responsibility rapidly, and most of the time a non-enterprise sized company cannot keep up with enough opportunities.

      I agree, I've never kept a job longer than 7 years, shortest was a 3 month contract (that I hated) but the average is 3-4 years.

      I've been at my current job for coming up on 7 years again and have been escalating my new job search. People who know about this ask me why I haven't left yet and it's simply "I'm paid well, have good benefits and decent responsibilities, and I'm not too annoyed yet. Right now I have the luxury of being picky about where I go next and taking my time to position myself for the transition."

      Also most coworkers I have had wait until being formally given responsibility instead of just taking it on themselves. Every time I have gotten a significant promotion my day to day responsibilities were largely unchanged. This was because I was already doing that role and the company was just making it official. I hear many coworkers complaining about how poorly their department is being run without ever finding ways they can improve it themselves without direction. If you have a boss that doesn't like this, get a new boss. But you cannot just wait for opportunities to present themselves; create opportunity.

      And if you ask for more responsibility only to be brushed off by management you should take that as a sign to start looking elsewhere.

    2. Re:Missed some by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Good ones. Though I know several competent developers who have stayed with the same company for 10 or 20 years. They have kept up with their profession and are a far cry from mediocre; they just like to stay in their comfort zone. Problem is: many others in the company assumes they are mediocre because they haven't advanced. A great way to stall their IT career... but it's a career they may not have wanted in the first place. That's not a red flag for mediocrity, these could be excellent hires in their current expertise. Just don't expect future management material amongst them.

      TFA glosses over the value of networking, but I think social skills really are an underappreciated asset in tech careers. And yes, social skills are a skill, which you can learn and practice if it doesn't come to you naturally. As an introvert I had to work hard at improving my social skills... and I started later than I should have. But it has paid off in every single assignment I have held since.

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    3. Re:Missed some by ErichTheRed · · Score: 1

      I'm not so sure I agree 100%. If the company allows you to get diverse experience and is a good place to work, I think it can work out. Problem is most companies aren't designed like this and want to pigeonhole people into the same thing year after year. I've been changing focus every 2-3 years within the same company, trying to pick something interesting and employment-generating just in case.

      And yes, I know sticking around can make it harder to find another job...I think the key to fixing that is to keep contacts outside the company so that you don't have to rely on cold-calling for work. Cold-call resumes with long service are probably very difficult to get noticed.

    4. Re:Missed some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Problems with trying to take responsibility are finding something that isn't already someone's responsibility, that someone doesn't think is their responsibility, that someone feels adds value rather than distracting from your own role, is actually noticed, finding something that is appreciated.

    5. Re:Missed some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Taking on more responsibility is not necessarily easy. For example, you have to find an area that is required by the business, that isn't treading on anyone else's toes, that you can do, and doesn't really require any resources, as you won't get sign off.

      For example, I tried for two years to get sign off for a project for business improvement, without success, and eventually it was taken on, but I didn't even get to be part of those setting it up, even though they didn't know how it worked and had to keep asking me for advice. This is not the first time.

      Another danger is taking on responsibility,band finding this means you have elected to carry the can for the failures of others by accident.

    6. Re:Missed some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diversity can work against you in job interviews if you are considered to be a master of none, as opposed to having a holistic view. Often recruiters want a cog, not an engine mechanic.

    7. Re:Missed some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried to automate SAP and Siebel testing. I tool I needed was only a few hundred bucks - or free, but had to get the blessing of security. In the end I was told no, those products cost a lot, and they ought to do those things without technical macros.Ten years later - same old, except they are cranky about overtime bills (those that attend Gartner conferences and magic quadrant software recommendations).

      Thank got I left, and also causing many others to leave.After 35 you have generally peaked. so you cant afford to mark time.

  11. Retirement? by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

    But I don't label it a mistake.

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  12. Appending Every Cert On Your Email Sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing screams insecurity and ignorance more than "John Doe, A+|Security+|CISSP|ITIL Version 3 Foundations|PMP|MBA|A.A.S"

  13. Accidentally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    dropping the database close to the deadline..

  14. Re:Being shot by the cops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Direct link to video. The man was guilty of NOTHING.
     
    Judge George Foster apparently was the one who refused to let the jurors see the evidence.

  15. never learning to lead a project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what held most of the engineers back I've observed who have gotten nowhere.

  16. Easy one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being mature and centered in the physical world.

  17. What mistakes can kill an IT career? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Getting old. Although you wouldn't like the alternative to avoiding that.

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    1. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Being a white male doesn't help either - viewed as having too many of those despite the preponderance of Indian men in the field (about 60% of IT at my current employer)

    2. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by 3Cats · · Score: 2

      boy fucking howdy, this. 40 is a terrible age to suddenly become unemployed in the IT field due to your company closing. Those 20 somethings with a wet degree will do it for half what you expect to be paid.

    3. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sadly, within the IT sector, New Zealand has become like this.

    4. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe so but I actually know how to get shit done. I wouldn't want to work for a company that chooses low wages over real results.

    5. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correct. Because geting older and 'asking for "stretch" assignments' become an impossibility naturally - the older one gets the sooner exaustion sets in and longer recovery times/sleep are needed, this doesn't fit the crazy culture of working 24/7 and surviving from junk food & coke, ok, one can do that after 40 but certainly will not end up well. I seen people collapsing and had colleagues having hearth attacks and strokes after passing the 35 and trying the maintain the same shity life style just because they where debt prissoners - to see the farm, one must leave it.

    6. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by hey! · · Score: 2

      Try being 50. They won't hire you even if you're willing to work for what somebody with no experience is willing to take.

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    7. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

      I keep reading and hearing about this, but I don't see it.

      I'm 51, and still thriving in software development. I work next to a 60-year-old programmer.

      Maybe this ageism thing is a Silicon Valley phenomenon. In Houston, I've worked with lots of successful older programmers.

    8. Re: What mistakes can kill an IT career? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indians and Englishmen (and middle-aged women in middle-management roles).

    9. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, if you work for the govt and need a big security clearance that takes months and months (and $$$) and over 50 you are dead meat, unless a personal recommendation, and it will probably be a legacy/maintenance role that requires experience, rather than belting out atrocious Java...
      Defence likes to hire ex-defence personnel with extreme bias. The recruiters want phone/facebook junkies - to get an extra 10% hours for no pay.

    10. Re:What mistakes can kill an IT career? by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I got hired here after 50. I did need to start dying my hair.

      --
      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  18. Silicon Valley by Templer421 · · Score: 1

    And having your finances destroyed for life. Just say NO to Silicon Valley, you CAN'T afford it after taxes unless you are a Millionaire.

    1. Re:Silicon Valley by omnichad · · Score: 1

      cdreimer would like to have a word with you.

  19. I commit to learning new Rust tech each month by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've avoided complacency by committing to learn at least one new Rust programming language technology each month. Sometimes it's a new part of the Rust language. Sometimes it's a new library. Sometimes it's a new Rust specific design pattern. Sometimes it's digging into part of the Rust compiler that I'm unfamiliar with. Sometimes I just analyze and ponder the Rust Code of Conduct. The goal is to slowly but surely learn more and more about Rust.

    1. Re:I commit to learning new Rust tech each month by tigersha · · Score: 1

      Just be careful about getting rusty there.

      --
      The dangers of excessive individualism are nothing compared to the oppressiveness of excessive collectivism
  20. Extending the Y2K fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spreading a rumor that there is a Y2K relapse bug in 2020.

    1. Re: Extending the Y2K fraud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are actually in the median between "Y2 ks". The next one is in 2038 which means technically you are about 18 years too late and about 18 years too early.

  21. Biggest mistake: not be super-human by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you read everything in this assesment. Go figure.

  22. Leaving a hard drive unbolted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Once, I left a the bosses very important hard drive laying on the work bench,
    running while I ran a memory test on the main system. Well, what do you know,
    I went to lunch, just for an hour, and in that hour, the Earth's 15 degrees of rotation
    caused the gyroscopic effect of the spinning platters to turn the hard drive, which I
    had left laying on some slick glossy brochures, to spin right off my work bench and
    on to the ground!

    That was a bad day for my career! Although, it could have been worse. I could have
    left one of those Leibert flywheel UPSes unbolted! Oh man.

    No, I'm lying. The Earth doesn't spin, and hard drives don't move on their own.

  23. Falling in love with your pet system by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

    IT systems come and go. IT people inexorably linked to systems also come and go. Best way not to go? Stay curious, learn new things, learn new systems. Look to the future, create the future you want to work in. Don't link yourself to the past and present.

    1. Re:Falling in love with your pet system by greenwow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I somewhat disagree. Most systems exist for many years or even decades after they should have been replaced. Here's an old but good article from Joel on Software:

      https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/

      It talks about how code rewrites almost always fail. I could easily come up with another hundred examples. We've started rewriting our inventory system three times and failed three times. I heard the last failure cost over 20 times what the software originally cost to write. If you're the go to guy for a legacy system and are willing to slog away at maintenance and work on the uninteresting problems that others don't want to, then you are a great asset.

    2. Re:Falling in love with your pet system by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

      I somewhat disagree. Most systems exist for many years or even decades after they should have been replaced....

      My point was less about having a job, and more about growing in a job. If you don't want the lay-off target painted on your back, stay curious. Of course, if your goal is to stagnate then, by all means, link yourself to a IT system and don't learn anything new. It's your career and your choice.

    3. Re:Falling in love with your pet system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Learn new things, even if the new thing you learn isn't useful it shows you can still learn some other new things.
      There are very few jobs that require you to do one thing, and one thing only (incredibly well or otherwise). Showing you're adaptable, showing you've got something even tangentially related, showing you're willing to embrace new ideas, that has real value.

    4. Re:Falling in love with your pet system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty much, dont be afraid of coming changes, make a point of embracing them and enabling them.

      Classic example is one we're going through right now, our parent company decided it was time to assimilate our office (originally a startup purchased 12 or so years ago) into the corporate IT systems. I'm basically the head g33k of client services in our office, two options - resist it because we want to stay in our bubble and keep doing the same thing, or plough ahead and get everything migrated. I chose the second option, and so far have had a ball with finding and taking on little projects to help transition and in the process I have built invaluable relationships with a large number of IT people with-in the mothership IT systems. As for the rest - software devs to managers who'd been there a long time, a lot of them left and went to other startup style companies because they're fun places to be, the rest of us just accept we're part of something new, and what once was doesnt exist anymore, there are few stragglers that still resist things at every turn - basically living in the past, and I'm waiting to see what happens to them, so far some have been pushed out or in a few cases flat out fired.

    5. Re:Falling in love with your pet system by Neuronwelder · · Score: 1

      Thank you. Flexibility is your only defense: I read the post and laughed when it said "how to bullet proof" .. It's almost the same as someone trying to shoot a target... It's moving faster than you can aim. Changing its dimensions and orientation, and intermittently disappears and reappears somewhere else.

    6. Re:Falling in love with your pet system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Main stream IT is just fashion industry, if you don't believe me ask Larry Ellison. Is not worth to destroy your health and family just for making a misserable check from writting microservices, webapps, desktop apps or mobile apps. These years IT is worth it only in the high end areas like research, security, AI, Blockchain/Distributed Data otherwise is just work for people too lazy or too complacent to look at better ways to have a life.

  24. Do they mean "IT" or Developing Code? by mykepredko · · Score: 0

    When I RTFA, it's not very clear who this is for: IT drones or coders. If you do a search in the article on "code", "writing", "engineer" and you won't find anything. There is talk of a 23 year old team "technology team leader" but nothing to say that he's actually writing any code.

    I'm pointing this out because "IT" to me means the people who (reluctantly) answer phone calls for system and internet problems and (even more reluctantly) go to a user's desk and help them. I'm being somewhat disparaging because of personal history in which I've seen behaviour at many organizations where IT staff's general surliness and poor responsiveness would lead to fast termination in any role but IT. To be fair, I know they fulfill an important role in overall organization security as well as support for less technical users. From their perspective, they don't get recognized for having the unique training and skills that ensures the organization works without Russian hackers turning the company's servers into a Bitcoin farm while not getting paid as well as the coders which means that an attitude that's less than "Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy" is warranted.

    But, they still get a way with behaviour, actions and attitudes that would kill a career in just about any other job.

    1. Re:Do they mean "IT" or Developing Code? by mikael · · Score: 1

      I've seen life at the "hell-desk". Employees calling up wanting to get someone to replace the paper in the laser-printer. Universities have to put up signs stating "please do not refill the laser printer toner cartridges with coffee". Having the technicians do marathon runs across alternating floors of the building to make everyone see that "something was been done".

      --
      Vintage computer adverts: http://www.vintageadbrowser.com/computers-and-software-ads
    2. Re:Do they mean "IT" or Developing Code? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Well, it is a low level job, and it might include refilling printer paper.

      Maybe they find it unpleasant simply because of their own bad attitude?

      Most of the job is simply looking up what the fix for something is, or repeating fixes you did before. It is technical, but not skilled.

    3. Re:Do they mean "IT" or Developing Code? by mikael · · Score: 1

      At the time (back in the 1980's), office LAN's were still based on the yellow and blue Ethernet cables along with vampire taps. The flash ROM's on the network boards (about the size of GPU's back then), would fail once in a while. Either one board would start transmitting non-stop or not even respond. Other times, two cards would end up with the same MAC address. This was really flaky stuff. There weren't any firewalls across the networks, so when one PC blew up, the whole building went down. That would lead to a tsunami of phone calls of people asking whether the helpdesk knew the network was down.

      --
      Vintage computer adverts: http://www.vintageadbrowser.com/computers-and-software-ads
    4. Re:Do they mean "IT" or Developing Code? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      No, a computer taking down the network for others does not have to do with "firewalls" (strange thing to say, that) it was because you were on a token ring network.

  25. Politics by MattRyanUK · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Realising that corporate politics is a load of bullshit and not playing along is the #1 career killer.

    1. Re:Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. Even if the latest HR initiative is the dumbest thing in the world pooped out by 25-year old McKinsey MBA grads, or your VP's brain fart came out of an airport bookstore management book...complaining about it will get you nowhere and playing along will at least keep you spinning on the merry go-round/.

      It's stupid, and wasteful, and the political animals who have zero talent make my blood boil...but I get paid nonetheless.

    2. Re:Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd adjust that to "appear to play along" - sometimes you need to GTFO, but until the escape plan is complete you need to still look like a "Team PlayerTM".

    3. Re:Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This sentiment would be valid, if workloads were realistic!

      I probably have 70 hours of actual work on my plate a week. I do my weekly 40, sometimes up to 45, and leave. Work that needs to, doesn't get done, period.

      Ramifications? There are none, as there is no one else to do the work, and timelines won't budge. Ergo, stuff gets missed, morale is low, the dept. reputation lags, and time marches.

      My point? When you have a shitty Sr Manager, shitty Sr Director for your bosses, who keep executives in the dark to cover their own ass, corporate politics is laughable, since me participating, is actually costing them money.

      My company, and more my department, will cut its nose off to spite its face for hot new corporate initiatives that fail after 6 months time. So I'll play along just enough, increase the bank account, and will get the fuck out the moment the ship springs the final leak to sink the department leadership.

      The clock us ticking on this particular job, so the resume is updated, and the networked contacts remain fresh. Corporate politics and the latest hot button initiative don't me much as career killers when you already have 1 foot out the door.

    4. Re: Politics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds familiar.

      I was at a âoestartupâ that ended up being a gig that lasted 13 years. I stayed because I was able to work remote(1500 mikes from the office), and be an active participant in the of raising my children. Was truly blessed to be appreciated at work, AND be able to spend precious time with the family.

      But I got too complacent. When I did start looking for a local job, my network was shit, and the local industries were not at all similar. It took me two years, and I had to settle for IT PM instead of hands on tech. But doing a good job in a large environment with lots of contracting companies allowed me to easily build up my network quickly.

      Iâ(TM)ve switch roles(system architect) and companies since then, and know I could switch again in under a week. Thatâ(TM)s a far cry from two years of looking. DO NOT let your network slip. Take those extra lunches, tell that extra story, collaborate with people from other companies, if you can.

  26. Believing your employer by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When they say, "Our employees are our most valuable asset."

    Pro Tip: The more you can relate to Dilbert (in general) the more you need to find somewhere else to work.

    --
    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    1. Re:Believing your employer by mikael · · Score: 1

      A dilbert (D) is the international unit of measure for bureaucracy. One dilbert is equal to 1 person hour of office work. In plain English, 1 dilbert of bureaucracy is the time required to occupy a person with pointless tasks that serve no purpose for 1 hour

      As the dilbert is an international unit of measurement, standard prefixes can be applied; 1 kilodilbert is 1000 hours of office work, 1 megadilbert is 1 million hours of office work. 1 millidilbert is 3.6 seconds of office work.

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      Vintage computer adverts: http://www.vintageadbrowser.com/computers-and-software-ads
    2. Re:Believing your employer by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      "Our employees are our most valuable asset."

      Yes, the ones slated to replace YOU.

    3. Re:Believing your employer by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Didn't Dilbert's PHB announce that they made a mistake, employees were actually the twenty-third most important asset, right behind carbon paper?

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  27. Only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Starting an IT career.

    1. Re: Only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what ruined my career!

  28. The exact same things ... by Qbertino · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... that stall every other career:

    1) Not knowing my worth.

    2) Relying on others to advance it.

    Which are somewhat two sides of the same coin.

    I happen to be in the lucky place of having (at least) two careers in an lifetime. The other being performing arts. (I have a dancing/performing arts diploma) I can assure you the things holding me back in one are the precise same things holding me back in my other career in IT. It boils down to this: All careers, IT and elsewhere, that deserve the name are hand crafted and built on the willingness to have uncomfortable/difficult conversations and make tough decisions. Your current IT lead is just the very same as your current choreograph: Beyond a minimal extent he/she doesn't give a flying fuck where you are at in 20 years from now. And they don't have to. It's not their job or their concern.

    It should however be yours.

    I'm pretty glad with how my career is going and you can be sure all advancements are based on going through very very tough patches and seeing them through and coming out on top. Eventually.

    My two eurocents.

    --
    We suffer more in our imagination than in reality. - Seneca
  29. Answer == Being APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being APK is perhaps the biggest factor holding back an IT career. Behaving like a lunatic, speaking in tongues, and just general creepy behavior. APK will put off any HR department, and we know he blames his lack of promotions on everyone but himself.

    ZIP

  30. Being over 40 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    To be fair, that will stall many careers.

  31. Aging. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Rule #1: Dont turn 30.

  32. Golf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not playing golf. Seriously. My manager at a large company was obsessed with golf. When "Black Tuesday" came and virtually all of IT got outsourced his golfing buddies magically were part of a special team that was not affected. Learn to play golf even if you HATE it.

  33. Bosses wife by jwhyche · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sleeping with the bosses wife or girlfriend come to mind. Anything involving the words, "officer that isn't my cocaine." Getting drunk and mistaking the main server as a urinal

    Fire arms and the disk drives from the corporate san.

    posting to facebook while intoxicated.

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    I read at +2. If your post doesn't reach that level I will not see or respond to it.
    1. Re:Bosses wife by guruevi · · Score: 1

      That's why we need unions to represent IT, you don't want to get fired for that.

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    2. Re:Bosses wife by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Sleeping with the bosses wife or girlfriend come to mind.

      Not a problem, unless you're caught.
      The plus side is knowing that your (likely former) boss pays for college for your child.

    3. Re:Bosses wife by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On side note: all but one of those is OK for a sales person to do, however. Really.

    4. Re:Bosses wife by Cederic · · Score: 1

      And lets be honest, you wont find the sales person near enough a server to piss on it anyway.

    5. Re:Bosses wife by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sleeping with the bosses wife or girlfriend come to mind.

      Not a problem, unless you're caught.
      The plus side is knowing that your (likely former) boss pays for college for your child.

      also.. Getting drunk and mistaking the main server as a urinal :

      Not a problem, unless you're caught.

  34. I'm long done w/ working for others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I haven't had to be anyone's 'wageslave' FULL time for a decade++ (my monies work for me in other areas now) but I still do pretty well even per our /. peers liking & using my work> (not yours UNIDENTIFIABLE anonymous troll - yours doesn't even EXIST, lol)-> https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11420419&cid=55704671/ so EAT YOUR WORDS chump!

    HOWEVER - I do OCCASIONALLY still contract/consult for others when the price is RIGHT & I am interested in the project (but I don't HAVE to - it's more about just "getting out of the house" sometimes to be honest more than money).

    * ... & a partial list I can & HAVE put out on /. before is a list of things "your kind" will NEVER, ever accomplish!

    APK

    P.S.=> Yes folks - I must've REALLY got under the anonymous UNIDENTIFIABLE dimwit's skin I am replying to but they only do it to THEMSELVES & hence their anonymous stalking of me nigh constantly! ... & the funniest part is, they always start w/ me 1st & I annihilate them w/ facts they CANNOT overcome with counter-facts, lol - I love it! They make ME look GOOD & themselves by way of comparison? Well - to be NICE about it? "Not so good"... apk

    1. Re:I'm long done w/ working for others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does your car look like?
      What does your house look like?
      What does your wife look like?

      Enough said. You're a failure, Kowalski.

    2. Re:I'm long done w/ working for others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Income = disability check, most likely for some sort of mental defect or morbid obesity
      Consulting = leaving the basement to reboot mother's computer.

  35. Top 3 IT Career Mistakes by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Being born after 1985 or before 1975
    2. Not living in NYC/SF/Austin/Boston
    3. Being born without a penis

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    1. Re:Top 3 IT Career Mistakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > 3. Being born without a penis

      Can we please stop with this myth? It's getting old and has already been shown to be false.

    2. Re:Top 3 IT Career Mistakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why Austin? I think you meant to write Seattle.

    3. Re:Top 3 IT Career Mistakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of jobs in Austin, if and only if you meet the right skill set, which means you are a subject matter expert in every operating system in the shop (they won't tell you what they have), 6 dead languages and 8 latest thing languages, plus both sql and nosql database. And, of course, no more than 35 years old and willing to work for $50K a year in a city where the average cost of living is $40k

    4. Re:Top 3 IT Career Mistakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HUGE fallacy on #3. I've found the exact OPPOSITE. I've found females in IT to have been promoted quicker for a variety of reasons, even over more competent male co-workers. As for pay, especially in IT, there is zero pay gap, as opposed to the bogus crap they bring up at 80%. IT companies have been pretty quick(relative) over the previous 5-10 years to bring that into parity. If a female in IT is getting paid less at some company, there is generally a reason for it. They are a sought after commodity and have seen many clients bend over backwards to make accommodations they don't typically do for the male workers.

    5. Re:Top 3 IT Career Mistakes by omnichad · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, really. Lots of people are born without a penis.

    6. Re:Top 3 IT Career Mistakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I disagree about the penis bit. Women get promoted very quickly past men in any large company trying for "gender equality".

  36. Telling the truth... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...vs telling people what they want to hear.

  37. Re: Being shot by the cops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The âoecopâ was following his training. Therefore, the authorities (local or state) should be charged with co-conspiracy to commit murder for this one and probably a ton of other murders.

  38. Get a Chronic Health Condition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go from computer operator to programmer, get real sick and go to help desk. Discover that when you're sick, computer operations and help desk are great places to be. For my co-workers on dialysis, working off hours gave them plenty of time for treatment. For me the low expectations allow me to thrive kind of like Satan in hell as mentioned in Paradise Lost.

  39. Pets by Monster_user · · Score: 3, Funny

    Non-Career or life goal focused responsibilities can undermine one's ability to excel in one's chosen career.

    So to can life's responsibilities recieved at inopportune times. But that's life. Life never goes according to plan.

    1. Re:Pets by tychoS · · Score: 1

      IT Career killers:

      1. Getting married
      2. Fathering multiple children
      3. Buying a house with a garden
      4. Developing social relations with non IT people

      Lets face it. To keep on top of the IT field you have to work fulltime++ at the dayjob with technology that is current, up-to-date and mainstream and then go home and spend evenings & weekends exploring bleeding edge technology and learning new languages, tools, frameworks etc.

      That is easy enough when you are 25, live in a small apartment full of computers and your "girlfriend" is an neural network you coded yourself from an AI book you read.

      But is gets harder as the children wants to be driven to sports, their school wants parents to contribute and attend various events, the wife wants the occasional romantic weekend holiday just the two of you, while the children is at the grandparents and the house & garden needs care & attention etc.

    2. Re: Pets by Monster_user · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Except coaching softball, etc, grants a leadership experience role, and other experience which can be leveraged into a promotion, or leveraged into moving out of IT and into another role in the organization.

      But, yeah, I do feel that IT is as ErichTheRed points out, a series of jumping in and out of rabbit holes, which is a job for the young and unattached.

    3. Re:Pets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well said. Up until my mid-30s, I had time for both keeping fit (counteract sitting/programming) *and* pursuing fun programming/tech projects on the weekends/evenings. After adding the responsibilities you mention above, there's only time for fitness activities. It's slowly killing my career, as the rate of change is relentless. But on the plus side, I'm not stroking out like geezers who have dropped fitness to keep up with their tinkering.

    4. Re: Pets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. Maybe that's a problem for the doers, but those are golden for IT management.

    5. Re:Pets by Rande · · Score: 1

      AI girlfriend? Nope, took Eliza out and shot her in the head multiple times. Kept wanting to talk about my feelings.

  40. Going too far down rabbit holes by ErichTheRed · · Score: 2

    Overspecializing is a huge danger, and it's a constant fight in IT/dev trying to figure out where you need to be next. This is especially important now that SaaS services are starting to take the place of managed environments and in-house software. I know several people who work as contractors in NYC bouncing from banks to law firms to media companies, and rates are dropping. Some skills just aren't in demand as much as they were...Exchange admins who knew everything about the product used to make tons of money because email was so important to companies...now they just buy Office 365. CCNP-level engineers who knew the network back and forth could easily make huge salaries and they're largely being replaced by SDN managed by the ISP or someone in India. The problem is that to get to these levels in any speciality, you need to tunnel-vision focus on your area at the exclusion of almost everything else.

    The problem this presents is that you basically have these choices to try to make a career for yourself:
    - Specialize and hope to $deity you picked something that will be around for a while...you can get rockstar-level money but the downsides are (uaually) having to move every year or so where the work is, and the risk of finding yourself in a dead end needing to jump to another rabbit hole.
    - Be a total generalist...you'll be jack of all trades and master of none. You'll usually be limited to small shops which limits income and exposure to "enterprisey" huge systems. The only upside I can see is you won't find yourself in the same place EMC or NetApp wizards are finding themselves now.
    - Dive into rabbbit holes but constantly bounce out...that's where I am now. The upside is that I've been able to work at the same place for over 10 years (which is important to me because I like a stable home/work life) without being the guy who's had the same year of experience 10 years over. Downside....chasing New! Shiny! Must Learn NOW!!! while being semi-competent at whatever specialty I'm engaged in. The firehose of information can get exhausting, especially when you see how much new shiny is yet another wrapper on a wrapper on a layer on a framework on a container on a virtualization platform.

    Long term survival in the IT world without winding up a washed-up middle manager or project manager means being flexible. Don't go too far down rabbit holes...the good money is only temporary and will require another massive effort to climb out and back down the next one.

    1. Re: Going too far down rabbit holes by Monster_user · · Score: 1

      Diving in and out of rabbit holes. That is how I view IT as well. That is what I rely on for job security.

    2. Re:Going too far down rabbit holes by jon3k · · Score: 2

      CCNP-level engineers who knew the network back and forth could easily make huge salaries and they're largely being replaced by SDN managed by the ISP or someone in India.

      I definitely disagree with this. We cannot find or retain CCNPs. We have three open positions for CCNA/CCNP right now. And we are SD-WAN customers, we have Citrix SD-WAN deployed at almost 50 locations right now. Don't drink the Kool-Aid, it won't magically replace your need for network admins.

    3. Re:Going too far down rabbit holes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a hard thing to deal with. Specializing is where the real money is. It's also how you end up being difficult to employ when things come crashing down.

  41. Going to college... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking killed my IT career, and now that I'm done still trying to get a half-way decent programming career going. Waste of time and money, although the electives were fun.

  42. Mental Health by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bipolar I, I went for treatment, told work I needed time for treatment.
    They were good about it at first as I didn't lose the plot at work.

    But after a couple of months they called to say I should return my things and I'd lost my job.
    I was really annoyed and responded with can you please explain, they didn't and I quit.

    Turns out a manager had mistakenly terminated me as they didn't think I was going to be back.
    And then it just went from there, tried to get another role but it was clear the bridges were burnt.

    Now I need to move with a family to get another job.
    I have my sanity back though.

    1. Re:Mental Health by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was there too. A couple of clowns in my office liked to goof around with squeaky chickens, trying to make people jump in their chairs when they were in deep concentration. That day, I hadn't taken my psych meds, so I just sat there and laughed and laughed and laughed until my line manager called HR, who in turn called my doc Mr Smiley, who sent round one of the duty nurses to give me a top up of happy juice by syringe.

    2. Re:Mental Health by pecosdave · · Score: 2

      Other peoples mental health seems to be an issue I have to keep dealing with.

      Married then divorced a socio-path. Dated several women that turned out having a lot worse issues than they let onto at first. Then thanks to corrupt courts my daughter lived with the sociopath instead of me, now she has some severe issues as a result.

      I've been to two shrinks in my lifetime - the one the court made me go to and the one that I had free access to at one of my previous jobs.

      The one I had free access to pretty much told me I was one of the most well adjusted people she had ever met and I had a phenomenal ability to deal with stress and hardship - most people would have had severe breakdowns after what I've been through. I told her I never had the luxury of having a window of low responsibility to allow myself to have a breakdown, I was too busy to have my own mental health issues. She liked the answer.

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  43. Health by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The most likely thing to go wrong is your body. In your 20â(TM)s and 30â(TM)s many of us ignore the growing joint pain, lower back, neck and hands.
    It destroyed my career and financial security. At 40 I changed my life and repaired carpal tunnel and tendonitis, and got myself fit and also lots of yoga. If only someone told me when I was 25. Now Iâ(TM)m 45 and bill about 25 hours a week comfortably. But it will never be more than that.
    You can recover from learning the wrong platform but this stuff will shut you down.

  44. Re: Being shot by the cops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cornucopia was following his training? Did someone take a little too much mescaline this morning?
     
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  45. Re:IT: The only way to win is not to play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perhaps they should learn Rust. :-)

  46. don't be like creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be like creimer and take lowball pay for excessive amounts of work. If you live in Silicon Valley there is no reason for you to be doing the work of three people for $55k a year. Don't be like creimer, ask for what you are worth.

    1. Re:don't be like creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well Chris, you yourself boasted of your one hour of actual work per day. Do you think we're fucking stupid and forget?

    2. Re:don't be like creimer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget, one person to talk shit about himself under a sockpuppet and post pictures of fat porn with his own name attached, for some reason.

  47. How to stay employed by magzteel · · Score: 2

    Never stop learning. Make sure you stay current. Use every position as an opportunity to learn new things.
    Manage perception. Make sure people see you as a subject matter expert and a person with high commercial value.
    Network effectively. Stay in touch with people as they change jobs.
    Proactively seek new opportunities.
    Negotiate hard for the compensation you want. This is another aspect of perception management.


    I've been continuously employed and well paid in this industry for over 34 years. Just changed jobs again.

    1. Re:How to stay employed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adding to the above list. If you can lend a helping hand to other team members that are struggling then that makes you exceedingly valuable. Just be mindful of meeting your own deadlines. A little sacrifice now and then pays big dividends. Good for the soul as well.

  48. That is a great point about Meetup by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Nowadays you can find lots of interesting Meetup groups on all kinds of technical subjects. That kind of socializing is probably even more useful in terms of long term connections for finding jobs, but also helping to expand what you know and not remain too static... just the act of constantly learning will bleed over even into day to day work.

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  49. Marriage followed by Divorce by pecosdave · · Score: 2

    In my particular case the court appointed psychiatrist thought that having had more than ten jobs over the past ten years at the age of 28 meant I was unstable. This of course was a woman in her sixties who's parents put her through an ivy-league school then never really had to hustle a day in her life because her dad was politically connected and got her connected to several judges who sent her business as often as she wanted in exchange for campaign contributions. She literally had a quarter million dollar a year position handed to her right out of college due to her connection and it just went up from there. Let's look at theses ten jobs over ten years at the age of 28 - most of them were in the first four years of that span, meaning right out of high-school moving from the sticks to the city without a connected family. The home town video store, to security guard - still aged 18 - that only lasted about eight months, to manufacturing, to better manufacturing to engineering to supporting businesses, to supporting satellite earth stations for gas companies. You're supposed to go through a bunch of jobs right after high school to work your way up in your career, the job as of the time of the shrink visit was at four years. Something else she held against me - the company I worked for when I first moved to Houston dissolved and formed a company in partnership with one of our clients. I worked for the same people more or less for four years, but since it was two different companies I changed jobs on paper and that contributed to my instability. When I did work for one of the oil companies who I worked for changed four times while I sat in the same desk in the same office - that was job hopping to her. It's almost like she was programmed into government technicality stupid mode. You would think someone doing that job for that long could understand people without a silver spoon in their rectums having to climb a ladder and someone who lived in Houston all their lives having some understanding about oil companies.

    My next job was a pretty good one. It's wasn't super awesome, I stayed in one spot for 8 years at about ~$50,000 simply because I've been in a custody stale-mate the whole time and I wanted to keep the shrink happy. I had more opportunities come up, but I refused to take any risks, the sheer magnitude of my child support combined with well-timed extra expenses kept me from ever developing any kind of buffer zone for risk combined with the fact even if I found something better it would be a red mark as far as the shrink was concerned caused me to remain stagnant. My job at NASA was finally Obamanated after 8 years and I'm coming up at 4 at the next place. Fortunately within the position I'm at we're making changes in my department to actually form a subsidiary company and I might have a chance to make some risk taking type advancement without the same risk taking stigma I would take on my own. Regardless it's only a few years until my kid hits adulthood at this point and even though I don't truly have the buffer zone anymore it matters less.

    I was considered a wiz-kid well ahead of the curve when I first started out. Even after I leveled out a little I was still upwardly mobile and making waves. After getting married to a sociopath the career brakes were hit hard.

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    1. Re:Marriage followed by Divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hear you brother. Had to put so many things on hold post-divorce. My ex had Daddy issues that hit hard when she turned 40 got a boob job over my objections, committed adultery with a friend and colleague, filed for divorce,destroyed my family and took me for half of everything which she didn't earn. Informed that judges don't care about adultery. Came out of binding mediation wearing my underwear on my head but it could have been much worse I am told. Ex excels in figuring out new ways to screw with me and my children now that lover boy isn't marrying her and she has to work for a living. Took me 5 years to dig out of the financial hole she blew. Family still broken and now always will be.

    2. Re: Marriage followed by Divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reading your posts on this topic, itâ(TM)s clear youâ(TM)re seeking sympathy for your divorce and custody issues. I have no idea what kind of shrink youâ(TM)ve been seeing, but try another; you need help and arenâ(TM)t nearly as in control as you seem to think you are.

    3. Re:Marriage followed by Divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The moral of this story is clear. Keep your dick in your pants and don't become involved in any serious relationships with women. It's just not worth it, especially now with the sexual harassment melee. Who needs it? Men going their own way (MGTOW). Google that and receive an education.

    4. Re: Marriage followed by Divorce by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Court ordered shrink.

      Not my choice, it's the one who was buying $1,000 a plate meals at the judges election dinner.

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    5. Re:Marriage followed by Divorce by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      Whatever. Marriage has been proven to be a net positive for men. Just because you have psychiatric problems and/or made a poor choice in a woman doesn't change that. Grow up.

    6. Re:Marriage followed by Divorce by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      Asshole, you obviously didn't read it.

      You're right, poor choice in a woman. Of course a bad choice in women shouldn't be a court enforced multi-decade punishment for a man, especially when you can prove the woman was the screw up. I grew up well ahead of most of my peers, the court system is designed so that ONLY men have to grow up responsible.

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    7. Re: Marriage followed by Divorce by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      The other shrink I only saw a couple of times BTW flat said to me, after tell me I was among the most mentally well adjusted people she had ever talked to asked me "You're here for validation aren't you?" Bingo.

      I'm not asking for sympathy, that's an emotional need I'm well beyond for the most part. What I want is corruption fixed. If no one shines a spotlight on it nothing gets fixed. Unfortunately you're one of those types of people what when they see a problem with a spotlight on it ignore the obvious and double down on the narrative. If you would have seen the entire break-out scene from the Green Mile where the guy had info to free Andy you would have just said he shouldn't have been out there trying to escape.

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    8. Re:Marriage followed by Divorce by pecosdave · · Score: 1

      This is one of the few good replies I've received.

      I was actually on the MGTOW bandwagon until my second wife, who is an exception to the norm. I've known her dad all my life and we're on the same frequency, she was raised well, she is not one of the modern women the MGTOW movement formed over, but a woman of a couple of generations ago. A true out of time gem. I spent a decade following the MGTOW movement until I find out this lovely young woman went through something just as traumatic as I did, so I offered her some guidance mostly because I respected her dad so much. She was taken advantage of for exactly the same reason I was - she was innocent of most of the worst that was thrown at her and couldn't fathom people being that horrible until experiencing it. Long story short the fact I came along with no intention of trying to get in her pants and offered real support she wasn't going to let me go. BTW - her dad was incredibly happy to find out she had fallen for me. I actually tried to hold her at arms length at first.

      My message to the MGTOW movement - you're doing the right thing in response to the the general environment being wrong. I fully think you're doing the right thing, and modern women deserve to have good men removed for the prospect pool in response to the way men like me get railroaded. Don't write off all women - there are still good ones. They mostly exist in small towns and rural areas, and even non-US countries. They for the most part have strong religious backgrounds - regardless of how you feel about religion having a strong background teaching you not to fuck people over on a core fundamental level makes a difference. These types of women however generally won't have anything to do with MGTOW types who are just out to get laid and move on.

      Don't become what you are protesting. Be honest about who you are and why, you can sometimes find a special someone that doesn't fit the mold of why you joined the MGTOW movement.

      Another thing: I shared this link with my wife while we were still dating. She agreed with it after reading it and had no idea us dudes were in such a pickle and agreed with it. http://www.the-niceguy.com/art...

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    9. Re:Marriage followed by Divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't you be trolling the latest space article? You seriously need to get a life and stop wasting everyone's time here, moron.

    10. Re:Marriage followed by Divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Adding to this - I was lucky enough to meet my now-wife from a non-US country. I tried dating American women, and found them too crazy and entitled to work for me. MGTOW isn't completely wrong, but it is important to remember there are still women out there that are worth knowing. Don't give up, and maybe you'll meet one too.

  50. Being an Employee and not learning on your own! by oldgraybeard · · Score: 1

    I am 2 months away from the end of my 30th year as an independent contractor. Over the years, I have worked with different languages and tech. in different fields/markets.

    The basic issue is learn something new every 6 months. And stay on top of where tech. is going.

    Also, it does not hurt to love what you do ;) I have been fishing every day of the week for 30 years. I am 62 and I am never going to retire, heck may as well get paid to fish ;)

  51. Re: Being shot by the cops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cops are trained to shoot someone if they look like they are reached for a weapon hidden in the waistband of their pants. Pulling up your shorts also looks like reaching for a weapon. If it is thought there is more than one suspect inside a room, all other suspects are asked to move away from the door. The other cop was doing the shouting giving instructions like "crawl towards me, with your legs crossed at the ankles". That led to his pants falling down, which in turn led to the guy reaching back to pull his pants back up, which in turn leads to the cop shooting him.

  52. Alas Poor Yorik.... by beheaderaswp · · Score: 1

    Well, I read the article and quite frankly... IT isn't the same merit based environment it once was.

    Which essentially means I do not care. Having made the right moves in the 90s and 2000s I'm not worried about "today". I live in a rural area and work as a PC tech along side engineers who cannot hold a candle to my skill set. But... it's a better life. I'm 52 now. Did my first coding in 1979, first professional gig in 1984. I've accomplished everything I wanted to. I do not need to "earn"....

    My career goals are now as follows:

    1. Earn beer money.
    2. Keep wife happy.
    3. Play with my dogs.
    4. Keep the weight off.
    5. Remain technically skilled (because I enjoy it)
    6. Maybe accept an engineering position at my employer when one opens.

    Beyond that... if you are my age and still chasing the big bucks my opinion is that you are missing out on life.

    My big plan for 2018? Combine my 30 years of IT and electronics experience with a FCC GROL and do some interesting work for the maritime shipping industry and aviation.

    Quality of life is everything guys. I burned the candle hot until I was 45. Have an exit strategy in place so you can go live a life outside of the corporate weenie-sphere..

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    1. Re:Alas Poor Yorik.... by oldgraybeard · · Score: 1

      Nice ;)

    2. Re:Alas Poor Yorik.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My career goals are now as follows:

      1. Earn beer money.
      2. Keep wife happy.
      3. Play with my dogs.
      4. Keep the weight off.
      5. Remain technically skilled (because I enjoy it)
      6. Maybe accept an engineering position at my employer when one opens.

      In my experience, #1 and #4 are not complimentary career goals.

  53. Re:Being shot by the cops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was white, so who gives a shit.

  54. being way too good in what you do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are instances when someones career gets stalled for being way too good in doing what s/he does (especially in the area of sysadmin and netadmin). The non-technical bosses make sure that you are not promoted as that would affect day-to-day operations.

  55. Getting stuck as a maintenance engineer by NotSoHeavyD3 · · Score: 1

    Pretty much fixing bugs and working under other engineers who are in charge of the actually projects is considered low prestige. Admittedly it's expect you do this early in your career to get some experience. However if for any reason you get stuck doing this for any length of time once you have experience or find yourself transitioned to this role it becomes harder and harder to get out of that role and staying here will stall your career. Ways you can definitely tell you're basically consider a grunt and not to be trusted with anything include never being invited to any meetings, never being in charge of a new product, and never being asked your opinion by management or if you give it you're just ignored or talked over. If you find this happening to you the best bet is to just find another job where you won't be typecast.

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  56. I can think of three... by GlennC · · Score: 2

    1. Being over 40
    2. Being a US Citizen
    3. Being White

    I'm sure that there are others.

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    1. Re:I can think of three... by oldgraybeard · · Score: 1

      What a Crock! Am 62, US Citizen, White and self employed independent IT Contractor. Do not fall for the standard Victimization. The moment you accept it, you can not fix your own problems! And that is what they want!

    2. Re:I can think of three... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Certified Woke AF. This dude knows what's up.

  57. This is genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ask the most fucking disconnected members of the organization (c-level) how things work.

  58. Brainfuck by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

    Doing all your scripting in Brainfuck. Yes, you're a genius if you can do it - but it is rather complex to maintain...

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    1. Re:Brainfuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/Brainfuck/perl/

      Fixed that for you.

  59. Training offered ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, right. I haven't been with a company, nor anyone I know, that has had the opportunity for training since 9/11. Companies now expect to pay you a pittance, have you work 60 to 80 hours a week to keep the funds coming in and you pay for your own training...

  60. No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It hasn't.

    You can twist stats to make it look that way, but it's simply not true. Women experience far more sexual harassment and sexism, this is known and obviously that includes who does and does not get promoted. Stop listening to MRAs and open your eyes.

    1. Re: No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get real, broham. No one believes your obvious bullshit anymore.

    2. Re:No by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Yet all the double-blind studies show that women are more likely to get interviews and job offers in IT than men.

      Yes, it's sexism - but not the direction you're suggesting.

    3. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that's the case then why has ever IT shop I've worked in been a complete and total sausage party?

    4. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet all the double-blind studies show that women are more likely to get interviews and job offers in IT than men.

      How would a double-blind study show this?
      I call BS.

    5. Re:No by Rande · · Score: 1

      Because women don't apply? They'd rather work in fields that are more flexible around child care?

  61. Tell the Incompetent Son in Law of the Owner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tell the incompetent son in law of the owner that they should be fired because they cannot or will not load a printer driver for 7 months.

  62. Re: Being shot by the cops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or not enough? it can be hard to tell at times... everyone has their own muses

  63. Pigeonhole yourself to one job, one skill, or one by technomom · · Score: 2

    I see this all the time. "I'm a web developer, I don't want to learn any backend services stuff.", "I'm a DB person. I don't code." In this market you'll be competing against full stack developers who do everything including all that devops stuff to deploy apps. Good luck with your career if you don't keep up with at least a few skills. Don't be a one trick pony in IT. It doesn't work anymore.

  64. Car & house (+ me) = excellent... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: & I'm not stupid enough to be married (that's a sucker's game for men 99/100 times or do the statistics lie?). I've had more women than most men will their ENTIRE lives though!

    * My car's a special example (house too, as I pour everything I have into it pretty much) - 2006 Hyundai Tiburon GT V6 MODIFIED to high-hell & stable (black) w/ only 35k miles on it (that's NOTHING) - Once I saw it was in those "Grand Theft Auto" games I knew "stay off it, take care of it, clean up later" & about 5 yrs ago kids in the neighborhood started wanting to BUY it from me.

    Home too - in the last 5 yrs. I put literally 32k into it (it's mine is why, I have to live here). It's a good spot on "Mount Olympus" as I call it (overlooking a lake & my entire city I grew up in). It's my "country in the city" (largest private land owner here that I know of for MILES around inner-urban afaik).

    (What's MINE, I take EXTREME care of - myself included (I know this from younger tenants of mine I out arm-wrestle & out weightlift (they're in their 20's & 30's no less))).

    APK

    P.S.=> You seem all about "material things", but truthfully? I'm not but my life's GREAT (have all I want really, no joke & my time is ALL mine) & I'm lucky to have such a life (you WISH you were ME) - I can't say "that's all me" though - I was LUCKY & had help from many great people around me my ENTIRE life (great teachers, friends & family - the best a guy could ask for)... apk

  65. Slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Easy: Spending too much time on /.

  66. Taking a career hiatus. by hey! · · Score: 1

    Took several years off because one of my kids was sick. Right decision, but it killed my career.

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  67. Toxic managers and fear of resume damage by mmdurrant · · Score: 2

    I've had 3 truly toxic managers in my career. One of them I didn't realize until after, but if you ever wonder, "Is it normal for my boss to undermine my efforts?", the answer is a resounding NO. Get out. As soon as you can. No paycheck is worth having to battle a person who should be your advocate.

    I had _3_ < 1 year positions in a row. I was lucky in that the first and second had very reasonable explanations and the third was honestly just bad placement. I'm a jack of all trades developer but they were expecting an RBMS _expert_ - someone who had experience with gigantic databases and performance optimization. One of those kinda monastic tech disciplines.

    Provided you don't make completely terrible decisions, the occasional mar isn't going to tank your career. Staying in a shitty position or one you're just not fit for is going to do far more damage.

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  68. Try becoming disabled ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I joined Verizon in 99 as a contractor, converted to permie in 03. Always been leading tech in enterprise billing, pulling $200k+ at times. By 2013 I had 19 years generally and 5 years technology-specific experience, only 1 other guy knew more than me about the sprawling system billing 100s million monthly. I didnâ(TM)t want management so happy to stay top band tech salary. Lots of capital saved, no mortgage etc so enjoying work.
    In 2002 I was diagnosed with progressive muscular wasting. Bummer but it wasnâ(TM)t until 2012 that it really kicked in: wheelchair, arms that wonâ(TM)t lift up, dressing a 1/2 hour struggle, fatigue flattening me after 2 hours such that I slept 1/2 the day.
    Verizon pushed back on every adjustment I needed. Despite making a billion a month profit they made me apply for a government grant for an office chair. They piled work on me, evenings, weekends until I had to complain to HR that I was on the point of being bed-ridden, on depression and pain meds, it was going badly.
    The light at the end of the tunnel was the disability retirement benefits, when I called time I could take 60% of my pay until retirement with benefits. Iâ(TM)m proud and fought hard right through 2014.
    Then a co-worker got himself promoted to director. This guy didnâ(TM)t see anything but my productivity on a spreadsheet. HR stopped assessing me, the overtime demand came back which of course I couldnâ(TM)t meet. He ignored dozens of emails begging for consideration.
    I thought âfuck itâ(TM) and planned to take the benefits in 2015. I had my assessments done, all was set. My doctor wandered why the hell I was still working anyway but it was always to keep my brain going.
    The director got their first and made me redundant in jan 2015. He ranked me lowest in skills, below 2 guys Iâ(TM)d mentored and a recent body shop joiner.
    Of course I took it to court but something didnâ(TM)t work with the judge. Steamrollered my lawyer with a massive legal team, they had 7 witnesses sitting in court for the entire 5 days on their dime. Money was suddenly no object.
    The judgement was entirely one-sided. Apparently not only was I wrong to ask for less overtime I was lucky not to be fired for doing so. The fact that Verizon had entirely ignored its own layoff processes wasnâ(TM)t of consequence. Nor the fact that the director couldnâ(TM)t produce any evidence to support his ranking. Case entirely dismissed.
    Three lawyer friends were hopping mad, but no matter, shit happens with lower court judges sometimes. We had a strong appeal ready. Then my lawyer fucked up. He missed the limitation date. No appeal now.
    So now Iâ(TM)m having to sue him for $2m. Joy.
    Iâ(TM)m on state benefits now, thank fuck I paid off my house. Wife works, 2 young kids at school. Just managing.
    Anyway just wanted to get it off my chest, more publicity is coming. Weâ(TM)re not done by a LONG stretch.

  69. Re: Being shot by the cops by dougdonovan · · Score: 1

    pissing someone off from india.

  70. You're projecting your own problems... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: My income's from properties I own (fully paid off) + consulting I do for Fortune 100/500 companies (quite often they're that size but sometimes also for tinier companies).

    APK

    P.S.=> If you don't have a "registered 'luser'" account name here have you considered calling yourself "The Projectionist"? It'd suit you perfectly (lol)... apk

  71. burn out by Coolfish · · Score: 1

    Working overtime with no vacation with three or four project managers breathing down the back of your neck while your boss who has ADHD keeps piling on new (but useless) projects. Burn out can hit you and hit you hard.

  72. Re:Pigeonhole yourself to one job, one skill, or o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On the other hand, being a generalist is a great way to never get hired for anything. I take pride in being a "jack of all trades", but no one hires those. They want specialists, with X years of experience doing A, because they already have someone who does B, and they just want you to do A for 50 hours a week for the next Y years. At which point they'll switch to using N instead, and dump you.

  73. Do what you love by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Do what you love, and you'll never work a day in your life."

    I can vouch for that, because that's what I did, and now I can't get hired.

    I got sentimental, and I went to work for my alma mater. I loved the place and I loved the job, but it was a dead end: the only way I could ever be promoted would've been to take my boss' job, which would've meant trading tech work for bureaucracy. And it didn't bolster my resumé, because on paper it looked like a joke job. I worked for years for not-a-lot of money, and even spent a year and a half doing two positions' work, because I was committed to the mission of the school, and I really loved working there. They took advantage of me.

    Then one day it happened: someone who didn't know me mistook initiative for insubordination, and I was perp-walked out of the building to the bus stop, with no savings, no professional network (too busy), a sad-looking resumé, and the only jobs I could qualify for were entry-level jobs I was "too experienced" (old) for, and positions at other colleges who would call their colleagues at my old job and find out what a "bad" employee I was. (Don't kid yourself: they do.) So I ended up taking even crappier jobs that looked even worse on my resumé, and now I'm over 50 and couldn't get a good job in tech if my life depended on it.

  74. Has the author really worked in I.T industry? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has the author really worked in I.T industry? Seriously, I am not kidding.

  75. And one other thing - Millennials by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    Oh, and a brief side note.

    The people who complain about Millennials? I have absolutely NO idea what they are going on about. I work with a couple dozen of them. I've never met a smarter, more energetic, more knowledgeable bunch in my life. Their dedication to getting things done is astounding. I'm amazed daily by how competent and informed these folks are.

    I strongly suspect the people who have problems with Millennials have never been around a group of them trying to figure out why the server is having problems. Maybe I'm just lucky and happen to work with a good bunch, but I doubt it.

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  76. A Big One by leapis · · Score: 1

    DROP TABLE

  77. Re:Pigeonhole yourself to one job, one skill, or o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suspect some places still want deep knowledge in some areas. "Full Stack Developers" never fit that bill.

  78. These days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Being a white male.

    Writing a paper questioning a corporations blind commitment to 'diversity'.

  79. Re:IT: The only way to win is not to play by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know I pretty much agree with you on most of your points. In particular the part regrading incompetent fools. These are generally the help desk people who get stuck at help desk because that's all they can do. There are a handful of clueful people in the IT industry but they tend to be the exception, rather than the rule. Otherwise yeah, there are a lot of crappy school tech grads who are fucking morons.

    Also the ego issues in IT, just because you can fix a desktop computer doesn't mean you are a fucking genius. You are no different than the HVAC guy. CEO doesn't care why his computer doesn't work any more than he cares why his heat doesn't work, he just wants his shit fixed. IT == Janitors with inflated egos.

    Source: 20 years in the IT business

  80. Re:Pigeonhole yourself to one job, one skill, or o by technomom · · Score: 1

    Sure, but the two things are not mutually exclusive. You can get pretty deep into several topics and still be a full stack developer. But I can tell you from first hand experience that we rarely hire for full time jobs someone who is an expert in only one or two things but has no desire to expand their knowledge beyond that. Much more likely to hire the person who has done it all but has particular depth in one or two topics. Further, when times are tough, the people let go are the one trick ponies. Those that we know are flexible and adept at picking up new things are the ones we keep.

  81. System Admin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry to say this, because System Admin deserves more, but the practitioners of it are pigeon holed in dead end jobs that have no recognition. In my observation they tend to be the folks that couldn't shine at coding. It's not a good career move.

  82. Re:Pigeonhole yourself to one job, one skill, or o by david_thornley · · Score: 1

    I've found that "Sure, I don't know anything about it, but I'll give it a try" has worked pretty well over my career.

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    "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  83. Let's discuss the 20 ways.... by acoustix · · Score: 1

    - Jumping ship
    I haven't done it yet. But I know people that do it a lot and they get paid a lot more than I do for the same amount of work/responsibilities.

    - Folding under pressure
    I cool as a cucumber under pressure because I take the time to figure out what's causing the issue. My management isn't. I have found that not running around like a headless chicken appears to hurt me. They mistake calm for not caring. I'm not joking.

    - Burning bridges
    I haven't done this that I'm aware of at this point.

    - Missing opportunities
    I've missed many professional opportunities. But I feel that my workload didn't allow for it to happen.

    - Skipping social events
    There's not many to take advantage of, but I go out when the opportunity presents itself. On a side note, my alcohol intake has increased dramatically over the years. It seems to have matched my stress levels.

    - Aiming low
    I don't do this. Any project worth doing is worth doing all the way.

    - Shortchanging your compensation
    I'm guilty. I didn't know what I didn't know.

    - Not knowing your worth
    I know it now. And it frustrates the hell out of me.

    - Failing to understand the business
    This is a tough one. The first few years I felt like I was actively being kept out of the loop. Then when I was made director I know I've been left out of the loop. How many companies hold scheduled management meetings without an I.T. director present? Do you think good technology discussions and decisions are being made? I'll hang up and listen...

    - Forgetting who’s writing the checks
    I know where my paycheck comes from.

    - Trouble with non-tech staff
    This can be difficult at times, but it's always achievable.

    - Staying in your comfort zone
    I don't think there is a comfort zone within I.T. It covers too much. If you can't find something new to do within I.T. you're not trying hard enough.

    - Lack of interpersonal skills
    "Well look, I already told you! I deal with the goddamn customers so the engineers don't have to! I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?"

    - Failing to adapt
    This can be tough as it seems that some IT processes are cyclical. Mainframe (centralized) > desktops (distributed) > virtual desktops (centralized)

    - Pursuing post-grad education without focus
    This can be difficult if you don't live in a high population area. Outside of urban centers many employers don't care about certifications.

    - Wandering away from a training opportunity
    I have recently refocused my department on the topic of ongoing training. They love it....I think.

    - Not being Zen
    Also difficult. I found it hard to let go of the overall network admin roles when moving into management. On to new adventures...

    - Thinking you made it
    Networking is key in my view. I'm in constant communication with many other IT pros in my area. It's a huge benefit.

    I'm not going to make it through all 20...

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    "A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson