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Ajit Pai Offers No Data For Latest Claim That Net Neutrality Hurt Small ISPs (arstechnica.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: With days to go before his repeal of net neutrality rules, FCC Chairman Ajit Pai issued a press release about five small ISPs that he says were harmed by the rules. Pai "held a series of telephone calls with small Internet service providers across the country -- from Oklahoma to Ohio, from Montana to Minnesota," his press release said. On these calls, "one constant theme I heard was how Title II had slowed investment," Pai said. But Pai's announcement offered no data to support this assertion. So advocacy group Free Press looked at the FCC's broadband deployment data for these companies and found that four of them had expanded into new territory. The fifth didn't expand into new areas but it did start offering gigabit Internet service. These expansions happened after the FCC imposed its Title II net neutrality rules. (Title II is the statute that the FCC uses to enforce net neutrality rules and regulate common carriers.)
Shocker.
You are expected to have faith in your government officials, not doubt them. Shame on all of you.
With the death-tax, they are motivated by $$cash$$ to help billionaires to keep money in the family, while spinning tales about farm families losing he farm when their pappy died. It convinced many people that estates taxes were BAD, even though the farmer who was hurt by this was never actually real
Now we are hearing about some poor lil mom-n-pop ISP that is gonna be hurt by net neutrality, while mega-corporations are salivating about monetising the user experience
does anybody really by this shite, or is it just to make the politicians feel good?
What small ISPs? The only people who are "small" are resellers as nobody can access the last mile.
Joking about being a shill removes all pretenses of neutrality. Given that nature of government in the news and in the congressional hearings definitely shows a true lack of partiality. We are not amused.
The mind conceives, the body achieves, the spirit manifests.
and where were all you crybabies 20 years ago?
The only thing this fucking traitor will respect is the only thing a fucking traitor deserves.
Plain and simple.
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For someone like him to hold such a position of power and having been so obviously corrupted(verizon), is *another* clear example government isn't even pretending to work for the people anymore.
All hail our corporate overlords; at least until some group develops some balls to correct things as the founding fathers anticipated.
It's nothing but mindless rhetoric on both sides here... Seriously, I'm getting tired of this.
On one side we have the scare tactics and "Oh my God it won't be fair with out NN!" and the other we have the "Oh my God, Government is always a mess!"
Now it's plain as the nose on my face.... Um.. You cannot see me... Well, Trust me, it's there.. It's plain as the nose on my face that *somebody* is going bonkers here. One side is pulling out all the stops to justify their perspective, regardless of how many figures or lies they have to tell to make it happen. This is a matter of life and death for the internet and any means is justified to win.
I'll leave it for you to decide which side the pro's or con's is going nuts here.. But I'm going to add that usually the desperate ones are desperate because they are discovering they are wrong and that they are losing the fight because of it.
"File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
Or is it all anecdotal?
Because looking at the sort of coverage and service growth for the infrastructure from these 5... it's hard to tell. I have seen some numbers that show a slow down, by separating out wireless infrastructure investment from the equation, but it doesn't make much sense.
But hey, if they have some hard numbers that show what the growth "could have been" without NN vs. what it is, wouldn't that be a pretty solid point to debate on?
Oh wait nvm, I forgot I live in a nation of Kool-aide drinkers that are only concerned about sticking it to "liberuls".
There is no doubt that allowing telcoms, who are losing money due to cord cutters jettisoning their overpriced premium services, to install toll booths on the Information Highway will generate hundreds of billions of dollars in profit through artificial scarcity. Pai is only concerned with the investment returns of the telcoms and could care less about the rights of the American public, the people he is supposed to serve and protect.
If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be-T J
How would having our upstream providers throttling us help? This guy doesn't care about the truth. He is the type to make his truth up as he goes. The net is going to be a huge piece of shit after this.
does anyone recall whowas hitler's most reviled enemy?
"...held a series of telephone calls with small Internet service providers across the country -- from Oklahoma to Ohio, from Montana to Minnesota..."
Just FYI, for those without a map handy, that covers 8 out of 50 states, all in the midwest:
Montana to Minnesota = Montana, North Dakota and Minnesota.
Oklahoma to Ohio = Oklahoma, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana and Ohio.
Again...just FYI.
Can we stop swinging from his cock now? We already KNOW he's a shill for the industry. We have a pretty got lock on how BIG of a shill he is for the industry. We really don't need six articles on the front page every day about it as there is less than fuckall we can do to have any impact on his decision making process unless we have a few spare billion laying around to shovel into his greedy orifice of suction. So, at this point, it's tough to muster up much more than a "so fucking what?" about it.
It's kinda hard to get data on something that doesn't exist.
"Small ISPs..."
What small ISPs?
You should read up on the Whiskey Rebellion, the issues that lead to the Constitution Congress after the original Articles of Confederation, and the causes for killing the buffalo, the opening of japan, the spanish and mexican-american wars, as well as most major economic decisions of the past century.
Hint: While this *SHOULD* be new if our country had ever lived up to its founding principles, it has never ACTUALLY been true in its entire history, from the revolutionary war, onwards.
Of course he didn't offer any actual facts.
Ajit Pai is a lying sack of shit who came into this process with a pre-determined outcome -- giving the telcos control over the internet to monetize as they see fit.
He's not going to give you facts, he's not going to give you evidence. He's just going to do what he was always going to do ... be a lying sack of shit with the interests of the cable companies/telcos as his primary goal.
You should assume that every trump appointee is going to be a lying sack of shit and not rely on facts or evidence to hand things over to corporations.
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At this point, the only thing I can hope for is that the RIAA and MPAA start going around suing ISPs after Net Neutrality is abolished. If Net Neutrality doesn't exist then the ISPs are no longer a common carrier under the Telecommunications Act of 1996.
People are still confused about net neutrality... but let's stop crying about it so that in 10 years when we have to watch porn metered by the minute through AOL cableboxes... we can look back fondly on slashdot's twilight and remember that that all the articles were about bitcoins and sexual harassment.
So what exactly about your post keeps you from signing in to show us your username?
Probably because you don't have a username.
Google for Brett Glass and Lariat.
Ummm. It's not a "death tax." It is not money that is double taxed. It's a tax against the income your benificiaries receive. You can't give infinite money to your children when you are alive without them paying taxes on it, because it's income to them. Just like game show or lottery winnings. There should be no difference in the transfer of assets to children after you are dead. They should pay taxes on those assets at standard rates without getting a basis adjustment at the time of your death. Which brings the purchase price of all assets their value at your death, rather than the actual price you paid for them.
The term "Death Tax" is a complete lie. It's just a "reduced" income tax to those receiving the assets.
Facebook is billions of individual "Skinner Boxes." And if you use it you are the pigeon!
I think Texans refer to this kind of BS as "all hat and no cattle". He needs more lessons from The DON of the outfit.
Another Ajit Lie. It's almost like he isn't even trying at this point. Oh wait, he isn't.
Won't happen. One of the largest ISPs happens to be one of the largest MPAA members. Some of the other MPAA memebers are looking for their own ISPs to buy.
If the MPAA starts suing ISPs it'll be to wipe out the little bit of competition from decent ISPs like sonic.
There are tons of them. Try going to one of the broadcast network's streaming services (such as AMC or USA), and try to watch one of the full episodes of a show. To do that, you have to prove you have some kind of cable subscription. There are the big ones listed up top (Verizon, Comcast, Cox, Dish, etc.), but you can look at the full list. It's a VERY long list. Sure, a few are only TV only, but the vast majority are also ISPs. And, yes, most of them are small ISPs.
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--- Jerry Garcia
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he changed his tune real fast and became a champion for fairness and network neutrality.
the cleveland browns have a better chance of going to a super bowl in the next decade than that happening again.
Iâ(TM)ve seen so much about this issue that Iâ(TM)m now indifferent to it. If it passes, it passes.
Oh yeah there's tons of them.
No there aren't.
You didn't provide even 1 example so your point is a lie.
Just like everything else in the USA.
"Despite all of Trump's lies that this is going to help the middle class and hurt him, this is literally robbing from the poor to give to the rich ..."
I wish the U.S. had a competent government.
It's not like they are going to install their own network across the area. Duh.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/...
https://arstechnica.com/tech-p...
Ajit Pai, as many in this administration, is just trying to co-opt the narrative and build some alternate reality that agrees with his own agenda. It's just sad that some people still listens to their garbage.
Done.
Brett Glass's problem with Net Neutrality is that he doesn't allow his users to run servers (at home) without paying the business rate. "we’ll almost certainly be forced to shift everyone to the more expensive plan. We will therefore be less competitive and offer less value to consumers,"... says the guy who's the only ISP in his area.
He's literally the reason we all want Title II protection.
I'm anti-google so I searched wikipedia and found nothing. However the home server issue is one I'm passionate about that I feel is vastly underrepresented by the various mainstream narratives.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/google-fiber-continues-awful-isp-tradition-banning-servers
Net Neutrality in my mind should be focused on the taxation-based-on-use-type-and-use-restrictions issue. Obviously the ISPs want the ability to tax at will.
Pai is providing us to be fucked by ISP. That makes him a sex trafficker.
That means that Comcast (and all the other anti NN providers) can get charged through the nose for their transit links?
That's going to be a roflcopter.
That's an interesting fact that gives the idea that is inspired by Obama quite the element of truthiness to it. Of course it was coined by Colbert in response to Bush and the tendency to ignore facts by his supporters.
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
All the sperms that went to your momma's egg were a lie. The lie was, "This person will be of value."
It's time to restore the 56k jobs that crooked Hillary stole from decent working class people.
#maga