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Amazon Files For 'AmazonTube' and 'OpenTube' Trademarks As Fight With YouTube Gets Pettier (theverge.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the subtly-named dept.

"Amazon applied for an 'AmazonTube' trademark earlier this week, according to a filing found by TV Answer Man, as the company's public feud with Google over accessing YouTube content on Amazon's devices continues to escalate," reports The Verge. "While there's not a lot of information about what AmazonTube might be, based on the trademark application's description of 'providing non-downloadable pre-recorded audio, visual and audiovisual works via wireless networks on a variety of topics of general interest,' it sure sounds like a YouTube competitor." From the report: TechCrunch notes that Amazon has also applied for a trademark on "OpenTube," as well, which, if anything, is a more blatant name for what Google is looking to accomplish here. It's also not the first time that Amazon has been rumored to be working on its own, free video service -- earlier this year there were rumors that Amazon was planning a "freemium" version of Prime Video, although the company released a statement saying that it had no plans to do so.

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  1. Others already taken? by MountainLogic · · Score: 1

    I assume that kittenTube and smutTube were already taken?

    1. Re:Others already taken? by mikael · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's always Amazoogle

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    2. Re:Others already taken? by muphin · · Score: 1

      Ironically, OpenTube.Com and .Net are already taken...
      but AmazonTube.com is registered by Amazon

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    3. Re:Others already taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing like the original niko niko douga: http://www.nicovideo.jp/

    4. Re: Others already taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone will get a nice offer for them

    5. Re:Others already taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No... that domain is taken.

    6. Re:Others already taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, OpenTube.Com and .Net are already taken...

      but AmazonTube.com is registered by Amazon

      I was thinking PrimeTube.com, but someone has it. No idea if it is Amazon. Seems to be Spanish, at least from google. I'm not quite curious enough to check.

      Amazon, the company that now won't even pricematch itself within 7 days. Thankfully they still allow returns. I may try newegg again more often. Are they doing the slow downs for the free cheap shipping like Amazon minus prime?

    7. Re:Others already taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I hit the men's room at the ballpark and there's like several dozen urinals and just as many guys, I'm looking for an Open Tube (tm).

    8. Re:Others already taken? by coofercat · · Score: 1

      How about googzon? Youzon?

      Amagoogon?

      "good day kind sir, may I enquire what you are doing?"
      "Amagoogon"
      "I say, I'm not sure I understand. You have your 'what' on?"

      What's with the 'tube' obsession? I mean, if you're going to compete, then compete - don't try and pass it off as similar because it's got a similar name. Being better than youtube is only as hard as getting users to post cat videos. It's not hard to do better that their terrible UX.

    9. Re:Others already taken? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Goozon" has a nice ring to it.

    10. Re: Others already taken? by loufoque · · Score: 1

      Or, more likely, someone will receive threats from lawyers to hand them over.

  2. Yeah... they're pushing alternatives kinda hard. by Kenja · · Score: 1

    My FireTV is quite instant that I install FireFox to watch YouTube... which I guess is a work around for now, but it means I can't control YouTube from my phone like I'm used to. Seems like no real winners when massive monopolies fight.

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  3. Oligarch fight!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *grabs popcorn*

  4. Fuck Amazon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shit delivery middleman company has nothing left to do but copy everyone else.

  5. alexatube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To go with their assistant. Oh wait it's already a porn site.

  6. Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    providing non-downloadable pre-recorded audio, visual and audiovisual works

    If it's non-downloadable, how is your computer supposed to play it? Streaming, you'll note, is just a form of downloading. Streaming content is downloaded to your computer (and can still be saved to disk, although sometimes the surrounding UI doesn't make that as easy as you'd like and third party tools have to be used). Downloading means transferring it from the remote end to your local end.

    If the content is "non-downloadable" at all as that summary alleges, how is it to be played?

    1. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by ls671 · · Score: 2

      Brilliant! Just like my customers that don't understand how they bust their bandwidth limits; "But I don't download anything! I just stream it".

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    2. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      upload only

    3. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're long past the stage where words mean things, especially if they deal with technology.

      It's all magic now, and people think "streaming" happens without anything being downloaded. Also, the blue "e" is "the internet". As in, "Yesterday my brother told me he accidentally deleted the internet".

    4. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "But I don't download anything! I just stream it".

      Aye. That kind of fuzzy thinking is symptomatic of basic technical illiteracy, which is understandable in a way, but it's still a real problem for our society. When things are "magic" to most people, they can't make well informed choices about them. That's leading to a lot of serious problems, poorly constructed laws, and more.

      We don't need a society of programmers, but we DO need a society of people with core technical literacy, just like we need a society of people who can read and do basic mathematics.

    5. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they stream it then you could cache it in order to lower your actual bandwidth usage therefor the limit is arbitrary.

    6. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by julian67 · · Score: 0

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    7. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the same way it's not called downloading when you copy data from a computer to a monitor, like when I use a chromecast to play videos on my phone on my TV.

      I'm not downloading what I type to my monitor.

    8. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the same way it's not called downloading when you copy data from a computer to a monitor,

      Video you are streaming is cached before it is displayed. Video you are displaying is only decoded. The monitor has no facility for downloading anything. It is a peripheral, not a terminal. Nice try, but no.

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    9. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by OolimPhon · · Score: 1

      I don't know if they still have this in the States, but in the rest of the world there is this thing called "TV", whereby you can get programmes broadcast through the air (ie wireless) by giant transmitters. You don't even need to have a computer to watch them!

    10. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      "Non-saveable" would certainly be more technically accurate, but it sounds rather awkward. Saving is usually understood as a part of downloading, so they just go with "non-downloadable".
      What irks me is when people say they've downloaded something to sound technically saavy when they've actually just copied a file from a disk or thumbdrive. Copy doesn't sound trendy enough or something.

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    11. Re:Non-downloadable? Then how to play it? by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Frame being drawn is cached by the controller of the monitor.

      When I typed that it was also cached by the USB display adapter, before it converted it to DVI.

  7. Giants in the playground by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A real life version of the Vorlons versus the Shadows and this lot also don't care who gets hurt by their power games.

  8. Oh, so we're ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...adding lying to mix? Amazon creating an "open" platform? Funny.

    1. Re:Oh, so we're ... by Xenx · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of uses for their own video platform that would more than qualify as open. It doesn't have to be the entire process is open. Just being open to allowing people to host and watch content is enough to qualify. Just because you attribute a specific definition to the word, doesn't mean everyone has to in every instance of the word.

  9. Amazon Prime Video & Anime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's also not the first time that Amazon has been rumored to be working on its own, free video service -- earlier this year there were rumors that Amazon was planning a "freemium" version of Prime Video, although the company released a statement saying that it had no plans to do so.

    Considering how crap Amazon Prime Video is with Anime*, I can only imagine how even worse their freemum version will be. Honestly, I've seen at least a few that look like little more than bad rips of VHS tapes with embedded subtitles. I'm almost certain I can find similar (or higher) quality versions of Youtube even with pirates inserting crap to get around the copyright filter.

    * Either Amazon believes Anime == Robotech (which is slightly above Anime == DBZ) or it's evidence of their shit behavior to "lure" people into paying for an Anime channel. Fuck that.

    1. Re:Amazon Prime Video & Anime by Xenx · · Score: 1

      From what I can see.... Amazon has plenty of anime video of a decent variety. However, yes.. it's not part of prime. To me, that sounds like a licensing issue. Most of the content you see that is part of prime is either loss leaders, to draw attention, or content that isn't going to sell well on its own. Anime is a niche enough market. Most likely the projected increase in subscriptions from expanding the selection wouldn't outweigh the increased costs.

    2. Re:Amazon Prime Video & Anime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To me, that sounds like a licensing issue.

      Given the amount of anime that's released in Japan and the massive back catalog of it that's never been licensed, I call bullshit. Amazon has more than enough money to import and translate a ton of anime if they so chose.

      Most of the content you see that is part of prime is either loss leaders, to draw attention, or content that isn't going to sell well on its own.

      Which is explains why the rest of Amazon Prime Video is so awesome. Oh, right... Seriously, Amazon wastes a good bit of money on "original" series for what? Uh, yea...

      Anime is a niche enough market.

      That's quite a joke. It's hard to call anime a niche market really unless you're squarely looking at just the US. Otherwise, it's a rather substantial market in Japan, Korea, China, and Europe (although the latter has their own animation traditions).

      Most likely the projected increase in subscriptions from expanding the selection wouldn't outweigh the increased costs.

      The same could really be said of most of Prime Music and Prime Video. It's still quite a joke to me. To be honest my real complaint is a lot less that they have such a shit selection as much as they really go out of their way to make it difficult to actually limit your searching within Amazon Prime Video/Music. Just about every type of search will do a "All Music" or "All Video" search. And/or will include physical goods in the list. Or will list $0.00 but will only be for one episode/song. A similar issue happens where "season 1 included with prime" except only a few episodes are included (1, 2, 3, and 5).

      Want to actually browse for Anime? Good luck. Clicking "Anime" for genre might not actually list all Anime. Of course, this is a general issue with Amazon: sometimes clicking a department with an item so you can sort will cause the item to not be listed or a higher price variant will be listed instead. Getting to your "Watch List" is a pain. Generally trying to find similar items is a pain. The whole thing is pretty slow and at least the Android app uses images without text for a lot of links which is pretty fucking useless.

      In short, it seems like the whole thing is a crippled mess. Perhaps the full channel subscription versions are just as bad, and they're not horrible on purpose for the Prime version? Honestly I don't know. Either way, it's really shit.

  10. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm not a big fan of Amazon, but I'm a big fan of them fucking Google over in any possible way.

  11. don't be evil by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 0

    Google trolling MS over windows store, Google fighting Amazon over digital streaming...

    Isn't the common theme here Google?

    1. Re:don't be evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like they are taking a page out of Trump's play book. Act like a 5 year old and get what you want.

    2. Re:don't be evil by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Hans plays with Lotti, Lotti plays with Jane...

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    3. Re:don't be evil by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Yes, its other companies trying to detract from the market leader.

    4. Re:don't be evil by GWXerog · · Score: 1

      At least in the case of Google\Amazon Google has up until recently allowed their content to be played on the Fire devices but Amazon has never allowed their Prime streaming content to be watched on Any Google tablet or streaming device, nor would they allow Chromecast streaming devices to be sold on Amazon

    5. Re:don't be evil by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Shock that monkey.

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    6. Re:don't be evil by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Yes, its other companies trying to detract from the market leader.

      They're not going to be the leaders for long if they throw hissy fit tantrums and take their player off all the devices of people who won't sell their players even though they don't sell their players. They're going to be an also-ran with poor viewership. Note that Google is trying to monetize Youtube and failing. How much longer do you think they're going to keep running it? Even the rubes who don't block ads skip all of them in five seconds. And then there's Youtube Red... do you even know anyone considering paying for that?

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    7. Re:don't be evil by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Could we PLEASE get one thread without someone feeling the urge to derail it and talk about Donald?

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    8. Re:don't be evil by Luthair · · Score: 1

      Same argument could be made about Amazon refusing to sell other streaming devices. Amazon also violated the Youtube terms of service when they implemented their Youtube player. Either way it seems pretty unlikely that Youtube can be assailed at this point.

    9. Re:don't be evil by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      That would be lovely but it's never gonna happen. Trolls and shills, Russian and otherwise, are playing both sides of the political fence to increase the division and hostility among Americans. United we stand, divided we fall, and all. They have a vested interest in fanning the flames.

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  12. Awesome! They've finally discovered the benefits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of an Amazon-branded PornTube competitor!

  13. About time there was a decent youtube alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not sure how that would be pettier or a feud - but it gets some bullshit peddling 'journalists' some clicks

  14. Fallopian Tube by Zorro · · Score: 0

    is still open and available.

    1. Re: Fallopian Tube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like your mom

  15. Google's trademark attorneys by DedTV · · Score: 1

    Just got a huge erection.

    1. Re:Google's trademark attorneys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Because they were browsing RedTube when they realize that ship has sailed?

  16. Wait until Google drowns the Amazon by Botnet-of-People · · Score: 1

    Petty? This isn't petty until Google files a trademark notice for, say, a large body of water. How about Niagara or the Nile? Or if size is all that matters, how about surfing the Pacific? On the other hand, I suspect Google, being the word company that it is, would simply try to one-up Amazon Alphabetically, simply by trademarking a word that occurs earlier in the dictionary like Access (for a cloud service), Able (a sort of catch-all service that en-Ables users to do anything), Acquire (for an online store) or even just Amaze (for a sci-fi/fantasy studio).

    1. Re:Wait until Google drowns the Amazon by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      Google has trademarked Alphabet. They have *all* the letters now.

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  17. Looks like Ted Stevens was ahead of his time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...because the internet is about to turn into a series of 'Tubes.

    1. Re:Looks like Ted Stevens was ahead of his time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...because the internet is about to turn into a series of 'Tubes.

      You know younguns, a tube is technically a cylindrical constraint. You might want to consider that when you are studying Wires and their electromagnetic physical properties. Ditto for fiberoptic cables. Yes, Jon Stewart's The Daily Show was quite funny. The reason however that he got so much milage out of Ted Stevens and Tubes wasn't because thinking of the internet in terms of variously connected cylindrical constraints was stupid. It's because Ted Stevens was a government official that got busted hiding stacks of ill-gotten U.S. currency in his freezer. Given that, comedians could use him as a punchline for anything. Somehow TDS managed to pick the thing that literally dialed back the masses already vanishingly small basic understanding of how the internet works. Now we have Pai and Trump. Sigh.

    2. Re:Looks like Ted Stevens was ahead of his time... by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      I always pictured pneumatic tube systems that were the height of technology in ancient times.

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  18. Star Trek Discovery by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 1

    Maybe Amazon will be the guys who finally make it possible to legally watch Discovery without paying for a dumb service.

    1. Re:Star Trek Discovery by Ecuador · · Score: 0

      Yeah, we don't want to miss the Star Trek series which has as a driving plot device of a universe full of sort of midichlorians/spores or something that allow you to travel anywhere instantly...

      I didn't have high hopes, but on the very first episode they introduce a "science" vessel that has no probes/drones at all! And has some sort of "imaging processors" that make its optical instruments not be able to see things that a 20th century kiddy-scope can see! And to top all that, they prepare an EVA session (since, you know, there is no drone) and launch it with a ship-wide count-down!!! WTF?
      It hasn't gotten much better since. The Orville is also worse than expected, but I had higher expectations to begin with, so overall I still prefer it. The latter would actually be quite good if they adhered to some physics that don't affect the plot - even on a semi-serious TV-show I do get distracted by cartoon physics (still more annoying on the more expensive and "serious" Discovery).

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    2. Re:Star Trek Discovery by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's on Netflix in the UK, so the odds of Amazon getting their hands on it are slim.

  19. Re:Best revenue stream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There you are again spamming youtube affiliate links with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!

    You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.

    Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.

    How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????

    The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!

    You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!

    When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!

    Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!

    Bonus:
    Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:

    The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!

    So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!

    Signed:
    The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!

  20. I got ATube... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ahhaha

  21. While mildly entertaining... by asackett · · Score: 1

    ... rich people behaving badly is rarely newsworthy.

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  22. One more to register Amazon by viperidaenz · · Score: 0

    To target YouTube Red, they should trademark RedTube

    1. Re:One more to register Amazon by nasch · · Score: 1

      To target YouTube Red, they should trademark RedTube

      Too late.

      http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/...

    2. Re:One more to register Amazon by viperidaenz · · Score: 1

      Thanks for posting a link to an expired search session.

      I am well aware that redtube.com is a porn site that has been around for many many years, long before YouTubeRed came to be.

    3. Re:One more to register Amazon by nasch · · Score: 1

      Oh, oops... I thought that would link to the trademark listing page. Well sounds like you got the idea.

  23. Re:Yeah... they're pushing alternatives kinda hard by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    I've already installed Amazon's Silk browser. It may not be the best browser in the world, but I can watch YouTube with it. I use a Bluetooth keyboard with a built-in trackpad instead of my phone. Kind of a clunky workaround, but that's about all we can do for now.

  24. Re: Best revenue stream? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL Creimer on YouTube now. God help us all. The man is clearly mentally unstable. I mean seriously. 47 views, lul. I'm done. Finished.

  25. I get it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "Tube" in "YouTube" is a reference to an old slang word for television, because it was build around a cathode ray tube. It took me 12 years to make that connection.

    Posted AC for... no reason.

    1. Re:I get it! by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Really? I always thought it was a dig at their users, or you-tubers - likening them to a sack of potatoes.

    2. Re:I get it! by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

      Exactly, and I would think that should be an issue for the Trademark. Amazon could at least be a little more original and not use the "tube" moniker. Vimeo has a original name.
      Maybe Vidazon, AmaScreen, or.. I don't know.. those really suck.

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  26. Headline stupidity by locater16 · · Score: 1

    Pettier? This is the best thing to happen to the internet all year. Finally a competitor to the only major user made video distribution site on the net, one more interested in testing out faulty AI algorithms on its users than in retaining them, because hey where else are they going to go lol?

    1. Re:Headline stupidity by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Pettier? This is the best thing to happen to the internet all year. Finally a competitor to the only major user made video distribution site on the net,

      The competition part is good, in the long term. But in the short term, users are getting fucked. Google has a web store where they sell Google devices, and they don't offer Amazon devices on that store, but Google is taking Youtube off the fire stick because Amazon doesn't offer Google devices in their store. It's a classic example of Google abusing their monopoly position, and I hope they get their peepee smacked hard for it. It's unethical, it's probably illegal, and it's harming consumers. They should be begging us to view content on some platform where we can't block ads... like the fire stick. Instead, I'm going to watch Youtube through Kodi, where not only am I not shown ads, but I can choose to download the video instead of watching it.

      I can do that on my PC too, with Youtube Downloader HD. I have to download some videos before I can watch them, because Youtube embeds the video right over the top of the video, and that means I have to watch it through a ghosted-out, inactive video player. It only happens on some videos — notably Jay Leno's Garage. I take it to be something that happens when some copyright flag is set? Then, ironically, I download the video they specifically don't want me to download, because I otherwise can't watch it. Youtube is still pretty awesome, but they are actually losing competence. Which reminds me of G+, which Google just dicked up again by moving the +1 button to the other side of the comment box for no reason. Maybe they should make the +1 button work reliably first; sometimes, every other feature of the G+ interface works fine (like commenting, posting, etc.) but plussing posts won't work no matter how many times you click the button.

      TL;DR: Google is becoming more and more incompetent in its old age.

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  27. Amazon owns Twitch do not forget by Woldscum · · Score: 1

    Twitch recently changed and allows you to upload videos for on demand viewing. Also for a secluded playlist at a certain time.

  28. Didn't Amazon start all this BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    By not carrying google product on their retail site? Let's see I can go to just about anything other retailer and find both Amazon and google products except for Amazon. This is what happens when you let one corporation dip their hands into too many different places. Just like the issues we have with media companies buying distribution companies and vice versa

  29. better alternatives to *tube by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hooktube.com "Share YouTube videos without giving them views. Bypass country blocks and age restrictions. Download YouTube videos and music. View quarantined videos as they appeared before YouTube Heroes got to them. Keep your data private from the G." Any other alternatives around?

  30. Re:Yeah... they're pushing alternatives kinda hard by Kenja · · Score: 1

    Can go with FireFox now, seems a better choice than Silk.

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  31. Re:Yeah... they're pushing alternatives kinda hard by reboot246 · · Score: 1

    That's what I'm going to do when I get home. Right now I'm 95 miles away and have to work a full day before leaving.
    It should be interesting. Is this a full-blown FireFox or a stripped-down version?

  32. I'm conflicted. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    I'm glad someone is ready to challenge YouTube's dominance, but did it have to be Amazon? I mean, it could be worse, it could be Microsoft or Oracle or Adobe, but Amazon is pretty high up the list of Darth Vader companies.

    Unfortunately, it probably did have to be someone like Amazon. The number of entities that can ramp up fast enough to truly eat YouTube's breakfast is small.

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  33. OpenTube? by darth+dickinson · · Score: 1

    Isn't an Open Tube just a ditch?

  34. Nope by stolidobserver · · Score: 1

    Can't put myself into anything that is spoken of here. It's just too unlivable. Two enemies with incredibly low shipping fight it out for the fringe audience! How will we survive? Seriously though, I can't stand politics.