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Microsoft's Fall Creators Update Already on More Than Half of All Windows 10 PCs (betanews.com)

Wayne Williams, writing for BetaNews: Microsoft releases two big feature updates a year for Windows 10. 2017 saw the arrival of the Creators Update in April, followed by the Fall Creators Update in October. The Creators Update was a slow and at times problematic release. A quarter of Windows 10 users still didn't have it by the time its successor rolled out. Thankfully, Microsoft seems to have learned some important lessons, and the Fall Creators Update is being installed at a much faster rate. According to the latest figures from AdDuplex, a mere two months after it launched, the Fall Creators Update (1709) is already on more than half of the Windows 10 PCs in use -- 53.6 percent to be precise. That's up from 20.5 percent a mere month ago.

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  1. After the last one bricked tons of computers by ckatko · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think I'll wait and let everyone else take the brunt of the damage.

    Microsoft's new strategy: Crowdsourced bug testers!

    1. Re:After the last one bricked tons of computers by ckatko · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually, and since every major update, Windows goes out of it's way to UNINSTALL CoreTemp and Win8Gadget (adds windows 7 gadgets back so I can have a CoreTemp gadget), and reset all my security and group policy settings... and Windows Classic Shell... I'm really not looking forward to having to reset all my manual settings.

      I've got clients where their custom IE settings that are required for business apps to run, get reset every creators update and brings the entire system down. Why even have manual settings if you're just going to nuke them? HOURS of paid tech support with the IE team and CRM team, and they couldn't even tell me why it was happening.

  2. So Win 10 is on nearly half of Win 10 PC's? by OffTheLip · · Score: 2

    That is big news.

  3. I couldn't disable it. by BlueCoder · · Score: 3, Informative

    I remember it telling me it was going to update. I spent a half hour trying to figure out where to disable it before turning to the web where I spent another wasted two hours before I just gave up. I feel very violated.

    1. Re:I couldn't disable it. by rogoshen1 · · Score: 2

      If you ever figure this out, please let the rest of know.

      Somewhere along the way MS lost the plot in regards to a user actually owning their computer, and therefore having the right to update it or not at their discretion.

      fuckers.

    2. Re:I couldn't disable it. by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      'Their' was already correct and didnâ(TM)t need fixing.

      "Their" is plural. Unless every computer is owned by two or more people, "his" is the correct pronoun. "Their" is the half-assed attempt at political correctness, or is it "social correctness", that results from ignorance of one meaning of "his" as "gender unknown third person pronoun". Can't say "his" because ignorant people will attack you for being sexist, "hers" is completely incorrect, so let's use the incorrect "their" and show how socially correct but illiterate we are.

    3. Re:I couldn't disable it. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

      There is no singular "they",

      Poor troll is poor.

      This is an example of what is often referred to as ‘singular they’.

      The grammatical subject—every employee—is singular, as is the verb is expected, but the following pronoun, their, is plural. Hence the name. It happens when they, them, their, and themselves refer back to subjects that are grammatically singular:

      Is it grammatically correct?

      Despite objections, there is a trend to use ‘singular they’. In fact, it is historically long established. It goes back at least to the 16th century, and writers such as Shakespeare, Sidney, Byron, and Ruskin used it:

      https://en.oxforddictionaries....

      But I'm sure you know more than the Oxford English Dictionary, right?

    4. Re:I couldn't disable it. by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      Documenting common usage is not documenting correct usage.

    5. Re:I couldn't disable it. by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2

      There is no "suddenly" about it. As was pointed out above, Merriam-Webster (which is a pretty credible source when it comes to the meanings of words) lists examples going back as far as Shakespeare.

    6. Re:I couldn't disable it. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2

      Yes, I noticed you did that.

      Worst comeback ever.

      No, I'm sorry,

      Then why does your English not look like this:

      Forrrihht anan se time comm
          att ure Drihhtin wollde
      ben borenn i iss middellærd
          forr all mannkinne nede
      he chæs himm sone kinnessmenn
          all swillke summ he wollde
      and whær he wollde borenn ben
          he chæs all att hiss wille.

      Oh right, that's because English evolves and changes and is defined by common usage.

      I haven't been alive that long, but I remember when "they" became the "socially correct" replacement for "he" in the late 70's or early 80's. That's hardly 500+ years. (Doest thee protest, thy anger is great!) Now even that abuse is not enough, we're getting "zee" and "zey" thrown into the mix. Apparently "they" doesn't mean what you think, since "they" just wasn't unsexist enough.

      I didn't realize that writers like Early of Chesterfield, John Ruskin and William Shakespeare were only from the 1970s and 80s. Oh did you not know that they used the singular they centuries ago?

  4. How odd by quonset · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you force people to update their systems, regardless if it destroys their configurations or mangles their programs, machines get the update.

    It's almost as if not giving people a choice whether to upgrade means they're going to get the update.

  5. Strange Windows 10 behavior by freeze128 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Microsoft add/changes features too often in Windows 10. This has caused some really strange behavior on my Windows 10 machines. Some things it has done:

    - I have specifically set my lock screen background image to "image 1". Sometimes when I boot my machine, the lock screen background has been changed to "image 2". Often, another reboot sets it back to "image 1". What's the point in having a setting if the system doesn't always honor it?
    - When the Creator's Update was installed, I noticed that it looked like one of my desktop icons was missing. Upon further inspection, it just looked like some (but not all) of my desktop icons were moved around a little, and a gap left at the top.
    - I have never joined any of my home machines to a Windows domain or workgroup, but on some reboots, there is an icon on my desktop called HOMEGROUP. It cannot be moved or deleted. Only stopping the "Homegroup Provider" service causes the icon to vanish, and then it stays away until some other random time.

  6. Re:Aptly named by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

    I thought at first it said "Fail Creators Update" and wondered how they could tell the difference.

    --
    Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
  7. Exciting by WaffleMonster · · Score: 3, Funny

    It must be wonderful to get a new version of Windows packed with great new features.

    When you have some time in your busy schedule waiting for updates to finish installing, interrupting boot loops, reinstalling software Microsoft doesn't want you to use, dodging regressions and restoring all of your settings (again) send me a postcard of all those amazing new features that makes Windows 10 so much better.

  8. Helpful tip for blocking all Windows updates by nctritech · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft is shady as shit and despite disabling the Windows Update service on my Pro machines I find it re-enables and demanding restarts, even restarting in violation of the "no auto-restart with logged on user" group policy, so here's a solution to blocking Windows 10 updates that works.

    Go to regedit, find HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\wuauserv, export that key to a .reg file somewhere, open an admin command prompt and "net stop wuauserv" and then DELETE that key. This disables and deletes the entire Windows Update service from the system. If you want to update, import that .reg file you saved and update. "net stop wuauserv" and delete it again when finished (you don't even need it once the settings panel indicates it needs a restart, the post-update work is done by internal Windows components.)

    Make a .reg file with these contents as a companion to your "install wuauserv.reg" and call it "delete wuauserv.reg":

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\wuauserv]


    No, it's not a pretty solution and won't work for your mom and dad, but it keeps Microsoft from shooting update torpedoes up your computer's buttpipes.

    1. Re:Helpful tip for blocking all Windows updates by nctritech · · Score: 2

      Oh please, another update absolutist.

      Don't waste everyone's time with your "let it update or the AIDS will get you" line. With major yet rare exceptions such as WannaCry, nearly every single security update I've seen for Windows since the XP days has patched some theoretical obscure vulnerability that usually required the person to already be logged into an account on the machine to exploit or it was plugging holes in the Swiss cheese that I don't use called Internet Explorer. Unless the security issue is really big, it's better to force updates to happen when you make the choice to do it than to run the high risk of the unattended updates hosing the machine somehow. I just did three clean Windows 10 reinstalls so far TODAY because of massively bungled updates going wrong and destroying the OS. Save your theoretical security concerns for ignorant people who don't use their computers to get real work done.

      Perhaps you also missed the bit where I mentioned that Windows 10 Pro was ignoring the update group policy settings including the one that stops updating from restarting the computer automatically overnight. It is more important to me that my overnight 4K After Effects render completes than that I am "secure" a couple of days earlier than I care to be but have to start many hours worth of waiting over.

      Forced updates and reboots are not okay. If you don't like that, that's fine; I don't care if you're unhappy over how my computer is set up.

  9. Re:Suckers by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

    come 2019 it will go to a subscription model. Pay up or they brick your computer...

    I am seven days away from Cisco bricking a gigabit switch I thought I bought but apparently only rented, because I am not going to pay a surprise maintenance fee to keep it working. "That's some nice PoE switch you've got there, t'd be a terrible thing if somethin' happened to it..." After a year of no mention of a maintenance fee, suddenly I get a "pay up or we turn it off" demand, every few days for the last two months.

    The maintenance fee is large enough that I can buy 8 Netgear switches that do the same thing. My Netgear switch can fail seven times over the next three years and I'll come out even, and Netgear has never threatened to brick something I bought from them because I won't pay them more.

    Proudly windows free for 5 years.

    In seven days or less I will be proudly Cisco free.