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Twitter Says It Exposed Nearly 700,000 People To Russian Propaganda During Election (theverge.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Verge: Twitter this evening released a new set of statistics related to its investigation on Russia propaganda efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election, including that 677,775 people were exposed to social media posts from more than 50,000 automated accounts with links to the Russian government. Many of the new accounts uncovered have been traced back to an organization called the the Internet Research Agency, or IRA, with known ties to the Kremlin. The data was first presented in an incomplete form to the Senate Select Intelligence Committee last November, which held hearings to question Facebook, Google, and Twitter on the role the respective platforms and products played in the Russian effort to help elect President Donald Trump. Twitter says it's now uncovered more accounts and new information on the wide-reaching Russian cyberintelligence campaign.
"Consistent with our commitment to transparency, we are emailing notifications to 677,775 people in the United States who followed one of these accounts or retweeted or liked a Tweet from these accounts during the election period," writes Twitter's public policy division in a blog post published today. "Because we have already suspended these accounts, the relevant content on Twitter is no longer publicly available."
"Consistent with our commitment to transparency, we are emailing notifications to 677,775 people in the United States who followed one of these accounts or retweeted or liked a Tweet from these accounts during the election period," writes Twitter's public policy division in a blog post published today. "Because we have already suspended these accounts, the relevant content on Twitter is no longer publicly available."
Only the people consumed by pure hatred for trump believe the russian collusion bullshit. It's been like 2 years.... WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?
Is it that ad ridden social network full of crackpots, some of them threatening with nuclear war? Does anybody sane still use it?
The rest of the world just takes it as a given that they're being exposed to American propaganda.
There is a huge whiff of "us be bad guys, us get taste of own medicine? Unpossible!"
Maybe if the Democrats had run Sanders and not Felonia Von Pantsuit, they wouldn't have given the Russians such a target-rich environment.
Look, it's not hard. If Clinton were the Foreign Minister of any of our NATO allies, her government would have put her in prison for a very long time for even a third of what she's accused of doing.
the mid-terms will be even more affected by directed dog-piling.
What about twitters own people saying on video they wish to "ban a way of talking" from "shitty people"... their words. Forget russia what about twitter's own propaganda via censorship?
Only PR(opaganda) agencies managing accounts for organizations, celebrities and people in their mid-life crisis,
all basically doing this: https://imgur.com/a/SjEqZ
Except there are no actually cool kids there to speak to. Only more of the above, pretending.
Hacked the DNC and DCCC, hacked elections systems in several states, grabbing electoral data. Handing the electoral data and political information to people like Aaron Nevins and defacto co-ordinating with them to get Ron DeSantis elected in Florida (DeSantis is currently trying to stop the Russia probe.... gee I wonder why?).
Team Trump however is totally innocent, all the meetings are innocent, the followup meetings, the cover story for those meetings fake, the visit to the Seychelles for funding, innocent, fake news blah blah blah.
Putin attacks the USA and look at all the partisan politics trying to cover it up. I watched a piece on Fox news claiming collusion isn't a crime, wow, amazing lack of patriotism there Fox news. Would Fox be on America's side if US and Russia ever went to war? Hannity would support Putin.
"Maybe if the Democrats had run Sanders and not Felonia Von Pantsuit, they wouldn't have given the Russians such a target-rich environment."
They ran Clinton and she won:
https://xkcd.com/1939/
Even you lot keep fighting the same election wishing for a winning outcome for Trump/Putin. If you lot don't accept the election, why should the majority of Americans who voted against Trump? That's the brutal reality of it, more people wanted her than Trump so if she was so bad, what does that make Trump?
It makes him the loser.
If this really was a disinformation campaign, it wasn't even vaguely successful.
Twitter would melt down overnight if they enforced this in an even remotely evenhanded way.
Changing the trending section to show TrumpShutdown instead of SchumerShutdown, even though a basic Civics class and understanding shows clearly that this is a Democrat action isn't propaganda ?
Removing the hashtag Release the memo from trending because a left leaning PAC said something about Russian bots isn't propaganda ?
Twitter please. And they say right wingers are prone to believing conspiracies.
"Not to mention all the idiots who use words like boxen."
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Therefor there are 677,775 idiots that need to get off social media and use their critical thinking skills. You'll probably find they are weighted towards conservatives, but not unique to them.
As the "fake news" generators have said, conservatives love conspiracy bullshit and will not delete/unreweet shit even after its proven to be fake, but liberals see right through fake news like breitbart and fox news, and all the clickbait sites that try the same thing, and will delete and unretweet/unlike any content they realize was fake later.
But it's almost a certainty that many of the accounts themselves were fake and only created to retweet fake news controlled from elsewhere to elevate the presence of fake news and make money from it, regardless if it helped or hurt trump.
I'm fairly sick of Twitter and Facebook going on about this. The Internet is full of propaganda. The world is full of propaganda. We should not be surprised if Russia meddled a bit, because we meddle in everyone else's affairs, especially in the Middle East. I don't like Trump much either, but the fact is that people are using this merely as a way to comfort themselves about him having won the election. But does it really make a difference? Were we really naive enough to think that democracy was truly fair in the first place?
Let's think about this rationally. 700,000 were exposed; that's a tiny number. A Google search says that almost 139,000,000 voted. So that means that about 0.5%--a mere half percent of voters may have been exposed. But chances are that only some of those who were exposed actually voted. And then most of them probably already were Trump supporters in the first place, who merely grabbed hold of the propaganda as confirmation of their already-held point of view. So it's impossible to say how much it affected the vote--especially given the complexities of the electoral college and the fact that we do not know where these viewers lived--but chances are that it did not affect it enough to have swayed anything.
Or let's put it another way: the burden of proof would be on those who would claim that Russia actually changed the outcome of the election. Prove it. I sincerely doubt that it will ever be proved, but people will go on and on about it because it gives them a kind of comfort to think that it was really the fault of some sinister external force. People love blaming outsiders, or even internal minorities who are treated as outsiders--such as Mexicans like myself--but it is a sad, pathetic, illegitimate comfort.
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Those exposed will be multi-millions.
"... also removed more than 220,000 third-party apps responsible for millions of suspicious tweets ..."
And that's only the little bit the Russians did. My gut feeling is the game was much bigger still. The real totals will be appreciated only after it's not affecting.
You mean like @TEN_GOP? The fake Tennessee GOP account, 130,000 followers thinking they're following the GOP, actually following a Russian Twitter farm operative. Repeating pro-Trump Putin talking points as if they were official GOP views.
Kellyanne Conway repeating Ten_GOP tweets, Donald Trump Jr, Eric Trump,.... all of them using those tweets as material.
Or Jenna Abrams, 70,000 twitter followers, the all American housewife quoted on Fox news, retweeted by Michael Flynn etc.... another Russian troll farm employee.
Quoting an *average* when a lot of the twitter accounts were simply amplify bots is misleading no?
Yuri Bezmenov
After being assigned to a station in India, Bezmenov eventually grew to love the people and the culture of India, but at the same time, he began to resent the KGB-sanctioned oppression of intellectuals who dissented from Moscow's policies. He defected to Canada
MUCH Worse...
as admitted by its own engineers.
Also.. it was Obama who removed the law that made it illegal to use propaganda.
Not a single example of what the posts were?
Sounds like more propaganda.
... a spit in the bucket. 700,000 people saw an "impression" perhaps once over the whole election. In a country of 350,000,000 that's less than half a percent got a Russian made "impression" on Twitter. The Dems have a very empty case. Moreover, the Russians have as much right to post on Twitter as anyone. Trump is right (again) on this one.
So, 700,000 people were exposed to "Russian Propaganda" in an election of 125,000,000 people. Seems like a drop in the bucket that couldn't have had a significant effect.
Next.
Wow. They reached 0.5% of the registered voters. With an indeterminate effect on even those. That's pretty much a failure.
When will the sore Hillary! losers stop looking for someone else to blame, for their election failure?
Enjoy life! This is not a dress rehearsal.
STOP IT, I come here to read real tech news, not the same fucking MSM bullshit fake news.
that wrote the trump dossier? Just seening some summaries would be enough. Trump _is_ more friendly with Russia. That's not alleged. He has tens of millions of dollars of sketchy loans and business deals with them. One of their oligarchs bought a property from them for $45 million more than it was worth. They're also the reason he could get credit. Russians bought enough property from him that he was able to get loans on the basis of those sales when he otherwise couldn't get loans (proof of high per unit sales can be used to secure loans in the real estate industry). And his ties the the Russian mafia are anything but alleged.
Everyone talks about the pee tape but the real story is that Russia could pretty easily blackmail our president. Hell, they're probably doing it as we speak.
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but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do something about it. I'm not surprised murders and robbers exist. But that doesn't mean I disband the police and leave my doors unlocked.
And I recognize there are a _lot_ of mentally vulnerable people out there. It's too difficult and risky to bar them from voting. It's also tough to get the right information to them, but we can at least try. We can also invest in teaching people critical thinking and making them aware that propaganda exists.
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They've censored many millions more and they are calling everyone who disagrees with their views Russian bots.
Overall, it's quite the hypocritical position on their part - take money from Russia to advertise, then blame the election results on their own ads, all the while censoring their political opponents with automatic banning.
Just when Twitter got exposed for shadow banning conservative accounts they come out and declare that conservative President was supported by Russian bot accounts. Well, they also denied the shadow banning, but it was proved through experimenting (as well as information from whistleblowers) that they do have a showbanning system in place. So this sounds like a retaliation. As in, "oh, you don't that we shut you up? Well, Russians helped you win an election! So, there".
For one thing the two Arizona Republicans voted no/abstained. For another the new _Democrat_ Alabama Senator Voted yes. But more importantly you can thank that tax cut for the rich for it. The Republicans probably could have gotten it through with a simple majority on Reconciliation _except_ that process has limits on how much they can ad to the deficit/debt in a year and the tax bill put them right at those limits.
This shutdown belongs to the Rs, and by the poll the Americans know it. Your attempts to believe otherwise not withstanding. And we shouldn't be surprised the Rs can't govern. We put a party in power that fundamentally believes government can't work. It's a core part of their platform. How the heck are you suppose to run something you want to tear down? It's like putting Peta in charge of McDonald's.
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...Does not count as evidence.
Sounds like a trustworthy group that has never done anything shady and has no interest in starting any unnecessary wars.
135 million people voted in the 2016 presidential election. Let's assume every single person that Twitter claims was "exposed to Russian propaganda" voted in the election.
Obviously, since it had a massive influence on the election, it that must have been a large percentage of voters. Maybe 20%? 10%? 5? No. Half a percent. Mind you, not all of those users who were "exposed to Russian propaganda" actually voted in the election. Why can't we just blame the candidate for losing the election?
Wow. The shills are out in full force. Let's summarize this thread so far:
1) But Hillary!
2) Witch Hunts!
3) No evidence!
so far, four people connected to the trump campaign, including its chairman, are under indictment
If you replace any one of the indicted names with the name of a member of the boogeyman "Clinton Global Criminal Organization", the right-wing would be frothing and apoplectic.
"Where's the evidence???"' my dudes read the fricking news.
Who cares about a little Russkie propaganda when we have the propaganda from within
Trump will make Amerika great again! Putin, uh, I mean Trump rocks, #HillarySucks.
Indeed, how can the delicate minds of US voters be expected to handle such nefarious influence...
Out of 330M or so...one person in 500 was "exposed" to Russian bad-thought, which isn't the same as "one person in 500 changed their vote to Trump as a result of Russian bad-thought....
Doesn't sound like much of a problem to me. It's not like people weren't exposed to foreign media regularly, all of which talked about the American Presidential elections at one time or another (it does,after all, have a moderately enormous affect on the world as a whole).
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
Mainstream media got it wrong as always. Russian's are not the main problem. It the tech giants like Facebook and Twitter who influence people's opinions.
Now Russia is associated with right-wing conservatism? WTF? When did this happen?
It's almost as if the left is using the time honoured tactic of accusing the opposition of doing exactly what you are doing.
For example, hypothetically, let's suppose the DNC paid to have Russian sources create a phony dossier, then use that dossier to get a FISA warrant to spy on the opposition party.
That would certainly be collusion on the part of the DNC and Russia. And what better way to distract the public than to blame Trump of colluding with Russia?
Put up or shut up. PLEASE.
He was an agent of USSR. USSR was a Communist dictatorship. It dissolved in 1991. USSR had 300 million people. USSR had media controls as strong as those of North Korea.
Russian Federation is a country of 145 million people. Russian Federation, until recently, was a member of G8. It had open trade policy with the West until Western sanctions started (in response to its annexation of Crimea). It has a mixed economy with strong government stake in natural resources and essentially no oversight in the service-sector economy.
If you want to attribute to the Russian Federation some kind of inheritance of the institutions of the USSR, you are going to have to explain how that's possible in a country which has less than half the population, has a completely different legal system, has a completely different economic system, and has an entirely different trade policy.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
The same folks who consciously supported Bush's lying to whip the sheeple into supporting the baseless Iraq war?
Trump is right to distrust these servants of moneychangers.
FTFY. And of course its Swiftboating - everything Hillbots have been accusing Trump of doing, Hillary was actually guilty of. From rigging a (primary) election to not just colluding with but paying for foreign intelligence agents for dirt on a general election opponent.
Straight, white men of /. - if any of you haven't transitioned yet from exposure to xenoestrogens - it is beyond time to engage your brains. You will be called a racist, you will be called antisemitic - they already do this, you have nothing to lose. Look for honest answers to the following questions:
1. Which group provides the majority of DNC funding?
2. Which group controls the majority of legacy media?
3. Was the number 6,000,000 published before the Jewish Holocaust of 1941? When and for what purpose?
You already know the answers, you're the pinnacle of pattern recognition. Who is it that exerts influence at every opportunity? To what end?
Like the $5000 on Facebook ads (many of which were anti-Trump or hawking Obama merchandise) in an election where Hillary spent a biiiiiiilion dollars.
Russiagate is bullshit. Always has been, always will be. When Russiagaters are confronted with the fact that they are as full of shit as anti-vaxxers, chem trailers and birthers, they engage in petulant hand waving rather than deal with the fact they've bought into a conspiracy so insane you'd have Alex Jones embarrassed to be in the same room as you.
Yes, in a classic case of Swiftboating, everything Hillbots are baselessly accusing Trump of doing, their candidate actually did. Rigged an election? Check, the Democratic primary. Not just colluded with foreign intelligence for dirt against a general election opponent, but paid for it? Check! Corrupt deal with Russian interests? Check! Literally, to Bill Clinton from people pushing the uranium deal.
Yeah, slick, its a witch hunt. An investigation that starts with a single issue but the prosecutor uses it as a special warrant to look for any evidence of any wrongdoing, anywhere....Dembots were pretty pissed in the 90's when it was Ken Starr and Whitewater.
Because Russiagaters have just as much evidence to back up their bullshit as do the anti-vaxxers, birthers and chem trailers.
Pro-tip: assertions and speculation are not evidence. Just ask anti-vaxxers, birthers and chem trailers.
You first, dipshit. Then come back with the evidence.
Eh.
Vi.
Dense.
For issues that have nothing whatsoever to do with Russiagate. Which is why Russiagaters are as pathetic as anti-vaxxing chem trailing birthers.
Didn't your parents teach you that racism is bad?
Cool story, bro. How would you say that matches up to the CIA plan to place bombs in Miami and blow up planes as a false flag operation to blame on Cuba? Now, since Western Exceptionalists are predictable, whatabboutery is a term you came up with to use whenever it's pointed out that not only does your shit stink, it stinks works.
Don't throw stones in a glass house.
That's not what's happening. The Dems have two issues they won't move on. DACA & CHIP. Both are supported by a majority of Americans. Both seem fairly reasonable. Furthermore, the Republicans have a long, long history of reneging on promises. The Dems would be fools to take the bait. They'll just get blamed when either DACA or CHIP goes down in flames.
The Republicans have a huge edge here. For one thing they control all branches of the government. For another their largely indifferent to DACA & CHIP. They'd just as soon pocket the CHIP money for themselves in the form of tax cuts. As for DACA, they don't want to lose 3 million workers (imagine what that would do for wages in this country when that kind of labor shortage hit) but their base wants DACA dead and counteracting the backlash when they reinstate it is going to be expensive.
Basically, the Republicans are much, much better at playing hardball. But to be blunt, it's easier when you're not considering the collateral damage in terms of pain and suffering. And I think there's a strong argument to be made that, frankly, they don't.
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Most of the planet is exposed to American propaganda 24 hours a day, 365 days a year (mostly thanks to Hollywood and other forms of American media), and we don't cry like little babies. So much for American exceptionalism...
At least americans are taking some taste of their own medicine, because thats how we live here down south because of them and their interference... "Operation Brother Sam" is good against others...
which is just how slim a margin Trump won by. A small amount of spending in the right place is all that was really needed. Now, to be fair a big part of the problem is Hilary, like Romney before her, got ripped off by her consultants (by all accounts 5 of them took $700 million of the $1 billion she had and did nothing with it, they just kept it).
You're also forgetting what they ads were like. They weren't 'vote Trump!' ads. They were targeted to Trump voters. They were there to rile up and scare Trump voters. Their purpose was to make sure those people showed up at the polls for Trump.
A lot of things went into the disaster that is the Trump presidency. DNC corruption, Hilary's arrogance and incompetence, Obama not paying attention to his party, right wing Dems taking the working class for granted. The list goes on and on. It took a fundamental break down of our political system. God willing the Dems won't run a right wing shmuck like Biden or another Hilary like Kamala Harris. If they do it's 4 more years of Trump.
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Of all the alt-right Nazis constantly spewing the same talking points. The big one now is there is no evidence of collusion. This despite the fact that there are Trump campaign officials who already have charges filed against them as a result of the collusion.
Of course t propaganda 101 teaches then that all they have to do is keep repeating it over and over again for people to accept their narrative. They don't realize that it can also backfire...
I am not surprised. They're paid to have the dominating set of sock puppets after all, to keep you livestock at bay.
And you fuckin' LOVE it too; that is the best part.
Face it, you fucked up. You trusted us.
.. showed you.
The only thing that I noticed were from two zombie domains linked to a single PR company in Washington that were raised from the dead just before the election that somehow got their Trump attack fake news articles trended by Facebook...
This is probably more like 'Russia was providing the public with facts that went against the narrative being spun by the Elite of the United States, most of which was evidence in Hillary's emails, but we can't have an informed democracy next election as the elite misjudged how many votes were needed to rig the election in their favor'.
Yeah.....
the legal definition is considerably broader, especially with regards to hostile foreign powers and political candidates.
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CNN Admits Trump Is Right About FBI Witchhunt right onscreen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2Ed9pe3AJI/ + Obama's Illegal FISA Warrant Targeting Trump Will Result In Criminal Charges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWg_RCLgWrU/
* Try deny those facts SOROS paid off STOOGE heroin & meth addicts (that'd betray their own nation for a fix).
LMAO - YOU TRIED DOWNMOD "HIDING" THIS LAST 3x I POSTED IT - talk about an "ADMISSION OF GUILT" https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11637149&cid=55967375/ + FEAR OF TRUTH & FACTS that SHOOT YOUR BS DOWN https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11637149&cid=55967459/ & "3 strikes yer out" LOSER https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11637149&cid=55967707/ LOL!
APK
P.S.=> Obama + Hillary & Bill Clinton are next (& so are all their appointee STOOGES involved)... apk
Got an email from Twitter accusing me of linking to Russian accounts & retweeting stuff during election. My account did not exist during the election. It was opened in summer of 2017. Twitter is accusing me because I’m hard conservative Trump supporter
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7rqdb2/got_an_email_from_twitter_accusing_me_of_linking/
Isn't it odd that this completely new country that has absolutely no relation to the old one, is still somehow both populated and led by people from the old one? And isn't it interesting that these people leading the new country have decades of experience, carried over from the old country, in fields such as espionage (Putin) and propaganda (Kiselyov)? And isn't it awfully convenient that although Russia inherited no institutions from the USSR, it still somehow has, just like the USSR had, virtually no independent media and zero press freedom? But somehow its' state-run media is very much active in the West, trying to promote the "alternative", Russian, point of view?
They exposed the whole nation to every bit of electorial dreck spewed fourth. Hell, everybody NOT on twitter knew every bit of shit that was crapped out from them.
Seriously, stop whining about Russia already. Either provide concrete evidence or shut the fuck up. Go back to reddit and Facebook, you filth.
The Donald alone has 45M followers, so that 700k number is B.S.
"Propaganda"? -- or as we like to call it, "advertising".
Oh, the horror. Weak-minded voters being swayed by those who would try to ... sway them.
Instead of being swayed by other people who would sway them a different direction.
If an election can be changed by sneaky people, we might as well admit this whole "democracy" concept is a bad job, and go back to having a king, or something.
I'm available, folks.
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
Isn't it odd that this completely new country that has absolutely no relation to the old one, is still somehow both populated and led by people from the old one?
Some of them. 145 million live in Russia. 50 million live in Ukraine. I think about 15 million live in Georgia. That's still out of 300 million who lived in the Soviet Union. Oh, and 25 years have passed. That's 1.5 generations who grew up under capitalist system in an open society. You do understand that the conflict with USSR was along ideological rather than geopolitical lines? The ideological differnce is foreign to the current generation of the Russian population. The geopolitical differences are no different from the ones with China.
And isn't it interesting that these people leading the new country have decades of experience, carried over from the old country,
Not even close. Not a single member of the Soviet Politburo remained in power after the collapse of the Soviet Union (25 years ago)... with the possible exception of Yeltsin, who at the time of the collapse was already the head of Russia (the administrative subdivision of the USSR) and was phased out of national USSR politics.
in fields such as espionage (Putin) and propaganda
Putin left KGB with the title of leutenant colonel. That's hardly a leadership position. His last assignment was as a station chief in Germany. That's the lowest leadership position a field intelligence officer can have. His political career was entirely in the post-soviet Russia.
Even if you consider Lavrov (the forein minister of Russia) to be a member of the old guard, you'd have to explain how an embassador to Sri Lanka became a foreign minister.
I don't know enough about the inner workings of the RF government to know who is Kiselyov. I seriously doubt he was a ranking member of the Communist Party of the USSR if he is in any kind of leadership position today. The Communists were completely disenfranchised.
But somehow its' state-run media is very much active in the West, trying to promote the "alternative", Russian, point of view?
I am more concerned about BBC's role in promoting the British point of view than I am about Russia having a voice. The constant denegration of former British colonies is completely out of step with the modern world.
isn't it awfully convenient that although Russia inherited no institutions from the USSR, it still somehow has, just like the USSR had, virtually no independent media and zero press freedom?
No, it's not convenient. It's a mark of any dictatorship. And Russia has emerged as a neo-fascist (not Nazi, but definitely classical fascist) state. If you look at you history, you'll that all fascist regimes emerged from weak democracies which resulted from post WWI upheaval. The descent into fascism in Russia was also a result of weakness of democratic institutions in the post-soviet Russia. But the democratic period did purge the old Communist guard. Comparing modern Russia to the USSR make as much sense as comparing Hitler's pre-war Germany to the Austrian Empire. They are just completely different animals.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
Just because you are ignorant of these things doesn't mean they aren't happening. Name a country or region that the US has annexed in the last 15 years. Of the top of my head I could name the Crimea and other parts of the Ukraine. I'm sure Chechnya could get a mention.
As far as kidnapping and torture, you making me laugh. Google Pussy Riot you fucking ignorant moron.
The USSR gave more money to the leftist, Democrat controlled Anti-Vietnam war protests than they did to the North Vietnamese. This is public record. Where the hell is the outrage over that? Where are the investigations?
They still own our colleges and universities, from an ideological point of view.
So, how many people actually buy a car because of an advertisement? Then, of course, we've got a very polarized electorate. Consequently, the propaganda must have been focused on democrats. Are democrats open more or less to influence by propaganda? Sounds like a learning opportunity for the DNC.