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Why Paper Jams Persist (newyorker.com)

A trivial problem reveals the limits of technology. Fascinating story from The New Yorker: Unsurprisingly, the engineers who specialize in paper jams see them differently. Engineers tend to work in narrow subspecialties, but solving a jam requires knowledge of physics, chemistry, mechanical engineering, computer programming, and interface design. "It's the ultimate challenge," Ruiz said.

"I wouldn't characterize it as annoying," Vicki Warner, who leads a team of printer engineers at Xerox, said of discovering a new kind of paper jam. "I would characterize it as almost exciting." When she graduated from the Rochester Institute of Technology, in 2006, her friends took jobs in trendy fields, such as automotive design. During her interview at Xerox, however, another engineer showed her the inside of a printing press. All Xerox printers look basically the same: a million-dollar printing press is like an office copier, but twenty-four feet long and eight feet high. Warner watched as the heavy, pale-gray double doors swung open to reveal a steampunk wonderland of gears, wheels, conveyor belts, and circuit boards. As in an office copier, green plastic handles offer access to the "paper path" -- the winding route, from "feeder" to "stacker," along which sheets of paper are shocked and soaked, curled and decurled, vacuumed and superheated. "Printers are essentially paper torture chambers," Warner said, smiling behind her glasses. "I thought, This is the coolest thing I've ever seen."

122 comments

  1. So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is Slashdot. The title invites a question, and TFS doesn't answer it.

    1. Re:So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's a charming electromechanical relic of computing that somehow survived to 2017, but unlike hard disk drives, the feed and output mechanisms are exposed to handling by clueless users.

    2. Re:So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I share your concern. This is Slashdot. We can't be expected to, like, read the actual article.

    3. Re:So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Printers are essentially paper torture chambers," Warner said, smiling behind her glasses.

      Apparently the answer is because some women missed their calling as dominatrixes and instead settle for abusing paper.

    4. Re:So why? by quenda · · Score: 1

      At least they have a nice red swingline icon. Never more appropriate.

    5. Re:So why? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is Slashdot. The title invites a question, and TFS doesn't answer it.

      That's easy. Paper jams persist because Xerox has a team of engineers to prevent them. The team designs the printer or copier to prevent most paper jams.

      However, they still let it have a few paper jams. If they would design the machine to have no paper jams . . . their skills would not be needed, and they would get fired.

      So paper jams persist to provide job security for those who are paid to prevent them.

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    6. Re: So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Correct. Without them, an army of midgets hiding inside would be jobless. And then what would they do? Run under tables and steal your breakfast. Youâ(TM)ll never catch them.

    7. Re:So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the rule was, anytime an article's subject asks a question, the answer is always "No".

      In this case, the answer should be "NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY???????", followed by expletives.

    8. Re:So why? by omfglearntoplay · · Score: 1

      But it does answer it. The engineers that deal with paper jams get off on torture! You don't think it ends at torture of paper do you? ;)

      ["Printers are essentially paper torture chambers," Warner said, smiling behind her glasses. "I thought, This is the coolest thing I've ever seen."]

    9. Re:So why? by Kierthos · · Score: 2

      Actually, having worked at a Fedinko's for over 10 years, paper jams happen for all kinds of reasons, not the least of which is people using cheap-ass paper or paper that was stored in humid conditions.

      And don't even get me started on the folks that brought in paper that they bought at some specialty shop that is clearly not intended for going through a Xerox DocuTech 6115, but hey, they bought the shiny foil paper and damnit, they're going to use it.

      My hands down "favorite" had to be the guy who brought in paper that obviously cannot go through a copier because it had a contoured Cupid on it. Literally, this paper had... a bas relief on it? I don't know what else to call it. But it's clear to anyone who has ever printed anything that this paper will not go through any copier that relies on the paper being, you know, paper flat.

      Only I had to try anyway, because "the customer is always right". Shockingly it jammed.

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    10. Re:So why? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Not really though. There are new designs of printer coming out all the time, and a lot of the work these engineers do is on industrial printers for things like newspapers and books anyway. As well as the printers changing the paper changes as we try to make it more environmentally friendly or one particular publication wants a different type for some reason (premium feel, lower cost, etc.)

      Imaging applying this logic to other products. Engineers wouldn't make cars too safe, lest they be out of a job. Nuclear reactors would have to melt down from time to time, just to justify the existence of anti-meltdown-engineers. Aircraft fly-by-wire would very occasionally invert the controls, otherwise the developers would have no more bugs to fix and be out of work.

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    11. Re: So why? by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Funny

      My mother, who at 96 still runs a business out of her apartment, insists that computer files are not ârealâ(TM) unless printed out, so she puts more mileage on her low-end laser than the average law office. To save money she re-uses her paper, which is tolerable if you take the trouble to keep your discarded pages in as pristine a state as possible.

      But every so often I get The Call. I have to go over there again and untangle six pages of recycled paper that were put through with a staple left in the corner.

    12. Re:So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm still trying to find the answer to:

      "PC Load Letter? What the fuck does that mean?"

    13. Re:So why? by vtcodger · · Score: 5, Informative

      "I share your concern. This is Slashdot. We can't be expected to, like, read the actual article."

      That's too bad, because it turns out to be a REALLY GOOD article -- informative and very well written.

      The answer turns out to be that paper is awful stuff. Its properties aren't uniform and vary with supplier and climate. And printers are trying to move the stuff precisely and quickly.

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    14. Re:So why? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      "exposed to handling by clueless users"

      That's how they are designed, baby.

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    15. Re:So why? by zeugma-amp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree with you. It is a well written, and interesting article. The nerdiness factor is high enough that it's definitely /. fodder. In it, I found my word of the day...

      At a hip Rochester restaurant called Nosh, Viavattine held the menu up to the light to assess its "flocculation" (the degree to which its fibres had clumped infelicitously together).

      Flocculation... just kinda rolls right off the tongue. Most excellent!

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    16. Re:So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PC LOAD LETTER is a printer error message that has entered popular culture as a technology meme referring to a confusing or inappropriate error message.

      Early LaserJet models used a two-character display for all status messages. This printer is showing "00", for normal status. Paper out in the upper cassette would be indicated by alternating "11" and "UC".
      The "PC LOAD LETTER" message is encountered when printing on older HP LaserJet printers such as the LaserJet II, III, and 4 series. It means that the printer is trying to print a document whose paper size is set to "letter" when no letter size paper is available, either through supply exhaustion or supply size mismatch.[citation needed]

      The error message comprises three parts. "PC" is an abbreviation for "paper cassette",[1] the tray which holds blank paper for the printer to use. These two-character codes are a legacy feature carried over from the first LaserJet printers, which could only use a two-character display for all printer status and error messages. "Load", in this context, is an instruction to refill the paper tray. "Letter" is the standard paper size (8 12 × 11 in.) used in the United States and Canada. Thus, the error is instructing the user to refill the paper tray with letter-sized paper. Variants are "PC LOAD LEGAL", meaning that the printer needs more legal size (8 12 × 14 in.) paper, and "MP LOAD [paper size]" meaning the printer needs paper in the "MP" (multi-purpose) tray, and "[paper size]" is the name of the size of paper specified for the print job.

      The message confuses people for several reasons. The abbreviation "PC" may mislead because it is widely understood — especially in the context of electronic office equipment — to sound like "personal computer", suggesting to many that the problem lies in the computer, not the printer. The word "LOAD" is also ambiguous, as it can also refer to the transfer of electronic data between disk and memory. Furthermore, the word "LETTER" is associated with paper size only in the US, Canada and some Latin American countries; A4 is the standard size used in the rest of the world. In this case, "LETTER" means data or content of a typed letter or document. Thus, users encountering this message may believe that they are being instructed to transfer their typed letter (as in correspondence) to the printer, even though they have already sent the job to the printer.

      Older LaserJet printers do not automatically resize a page when the page size of a document does not match the paper that is loaded in the printer. When trying to print a document whose paper size is set to "letter" on A4-sized paper the message occurs. The error "PC LOAD A4" appears in countries using this paper size. However, as many (American-written) programs use "letter" as the default format, the confusing message is often encountered by non-American users who are unaware of the recovery procedure (empty print queue and printer buffer or press "Shift+Continue"[2] and in extreme cases, restart printer and repeat). The LaserJet 5 introduced an easy-to-find "GO" button to override the warning message.

      Later LaserJet printers, with a number label on their paper trays, display a new message, "TRAY X LOAD PLAIN [paper size]" where "Tray X" refers to the number of the paper tray which is the setting for the print job, again "load" is the instruction to refill the tray, and [paper size] is still the size of paper needed for the job.

      The error message's vagueness was mocked in the 1999 comedy film Office Space.

    17. Re:So why? by youngone · · Score: 2

      I worked at a printing supply company and the paper guys could talk endlessly about their products.
      It is nerdy, but the charm wears off during the third hour of that weekly sales meeting.
      The summary talks about a million dollar printing press which is like a big office copier. In the real world a million dollar office copier is just an office copier, and can't compete with a real offset press.
      The cheapest one we sold cost about $5.8 million and if you really specced our top of the line model up you would not get much change from $25 million.
      It's a totally different beast, for a totally different market.

    18. Re: So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lord, just get her a duplex printer. they are way cheaper than they used to be.

    19. Re:So why? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      I'm sure glad my local Fedinko's has Canon copiers in the self-service area, I print on all sorts of "plain paper" including fancy textured paper and even homemade paper with embedded pressed flowers!

      Most likely though he just needed to set the paper type to 80lb bond and had it set to plain paper!

      The last thing I would do is listen to the workers who have been stuck in that job for years and years. They tell me all sorts of things are "impossible" like printing a two-sided document from two jpgs without first going home and creating a double-sided PDF. They can only remember about 5 steps, so the 13 button presses needed to get that one done is "impossible" for them, and they will prove it is impossible by telling you how many years they worked there! LOL

    20. Re:So why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real question is why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam.

    21. Re:So why? by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Pretty much.

      Paper jams don't happen in a high speed press because they are long and the paper rarely has to be bent. The jams happen because of bends - from incompatible paper (like stickers and whatnot) to simply the paper not making it around. So a large printing press, or even a high speed photocopier work because the paper feeds in from one end and it stays flat through the entire process until it shoots out the other end. Double sided printing is handled by two print engines, so it prints the top side and the bottom side separately. Paper stays flat throughout and you can print at thousands of pages per minute without a single jam.

      But people don't have the 20 feet of space needed for a flat paper path, or if you cut down the speed a lot, you can have paper follow a more winding path, with the advantage that it takes up a heck of a lot less space. But at the same time, the bends mean an edge can catch when it bends around and boom, a jam. Most printers will have an S shaped paper path - paper feeds in on one side (or front), travels to the other side getting printed, then bends into the output tray. Heaven help you if you have the duplexer that bends the paper again and feeds it through all over again.

      The bending significantly slows down the path since you can't take the bends too fast or the paper will just jam up on you.

      And yes, a machine able to copy thousands of sheets a minute is very impressive to watch. Any large school or institution will have them - it's the only way you can make 1000 copies in a reasonable amount of time.1000 double sided copies, and often with a finisher to collate and staple. And they can run on the nastiest cheapest paper as I believe they don't even have rollers - a vacuum system sucks the paper to the belt so the only thing that touches it is the drum. End result of a bad sheet will be crumpled and nasty, but come out of the system and not caught and jammed. Because at 1000 pages a minute, you can't run for 2 seconds before jamming. (2 seconds is 32 pages).

  2. Stress relief by thebes · · Score: 1

    After you and your buddy are fired

  3. Ugg. by msauve · · Score: 1

    The article is jammed in a paywall.

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    1. Re:Ugg. by OzPeter · · Score: 1

      The article is jammed in a paywall.

      Not paywalled for me.

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  4. Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by Qbertino · · Score: 2

    I don't use them all that much and some have bizar/abysmal usability, but the machines themselves are a marvel of engineering IMHO. It's amazing how much of them are optimized to the T these days. And the print quality they put out is just as amazing. I remember smelling meth-spirits with purple ink of the repo machines back in primary school and I also remember the Star NL 10 dot-matrix impact printer. Noisy, ugly, dusty. I also remember the Sharp CE-126P -still have it.

    Long story short, I think they are amazing and AFAICT paper jams with them have also gotten measurably less - although I do understand that those will never go away completely.

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    1. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, I recall thing being much worse when I was dealing with tractor fed dot matrix printers and early inkjets. I have a $50 laser printer from Walmart that is about 5 years old, and it very rarely gets paper jams. Usually only when the paper isn't in good condition or if you try to print double sided and run the same page through twice.

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    2. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      I agree, laser printers and photocopiers are a pinnacle of engineering achievement. The people that design and optimize these are really impressive.

      I have to say though that I did not have paper-jams for a very long time now. I think the paper in Europe is better quality though and that may be the reason. Or A4 format just jams less. With the complexity of these things, that may be a possibility.

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    3. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked on copiers for a couple of decades some years ago. We always complained to the engineers about the paper jams, and their comment always was "Yes, we could probably make a copier that never jammed, but it would be slow, and nobody could afford it!". It's always about trade-offs. I used to work on the BIG machines, that ran 130 pages a minute. The paper was clipping along at about 20 miles per hour. And not jamming. Think about that. Marvels of engineering indeed.

    4. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As with many things, the problem is no longer the hardware, which has been engineered and refined for several decades. It's the software, which remains in an eternally-churning hell.

      I spent half an hour today trying to force a printer to print a two-sided document. It would print the first side - and then, for some unfathomable reason, decide that the second side of the first page had to be printed from a different tray, possibly with a different paper size. I tried the logical options (print everything from the second tray, etc.) without success.

      I would pay extra for a printer that had less features - just one tray, A4 paper only - to avoid wasted time dealing with issues like this, the value of which easily exceeds the cost of the printer over its lifetime.

    5. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The really weird thing is that the basic claim "paper jams are a trivial problem" goes unchallenged. The author doesn't understand the word "trivial" in engineering. It doesn't mean the use case is unimportant, for example. ;) You can find out if it is trivial by just trying to look it up; is it just a matter of looking up a known formula or algorithm, and applying it to some data, or is it actually a complicated thing with a mix of moving parts and software, where the correct action depends on a wide variety of environmental conditions in both the ambient air and also the workpiece? Yeah, not "trivial" in any way, shape, or form.

      Unclogging a paper jam is a trivial problem; you stop the machine and turn on an indicator light instructing the human to clear the jam! If you want the machine to clear its own jam, that is not at all trivial.

      "Trivial" would mean, all you have to do is a long series of known differential equations and tomorrow you have the answer.

    6. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It most likely is that you just purchase higher quality paper than those that experience jams all the time.

    7. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Or, the complaints come from the people buying the very cheapest printers from the cheapest big box stores, and your cheapest junk isn't as cheap as our cheapest junk. In that case, people buying a midrange printer would have the exact same experience.

      I print on a wide variety of papers, different sizes, weights, materials. The cheapest cheap discounted paper does jam more, but name-brand cheap paper is usually of high quality in the US. A4 is definitely not going to make a difference, it is only very slightly different than the US Letter size.

      100% of the paper jams I've had in the last 15 years on commercial printers were caused by faulty paper. (folds, creases, adhering foreign objects) In that time I've had a few jams of cheap consumer printers, but it was never the printer's fault; it was always obvious that I was loading it to near its limit, or something like that. A professional model maybe it makes sense to expect to be able to fill the infeed, but in a consumer model you should expect to have to learn its quirks.

    8. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The thing is, that tells you nothing about anything. At least, nothing about the things you were purporting to talk about.

      When a service worker is grousing to an engineer, the engineer responds with slapstick one-liners because that is what the service worker is going to understand, and in fact the complaints are rhetorical anyways. The goal isn't to give you information, but to respond in a friendly way that you'll understand.

      The response you got is boiler-plate "simplest explanation of why all products are not built like the Space Shuttle," it was not any sort of insight gained from having access to the engineers. ;)

    9. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by gweihir · · Score: 1

      Sounds plausible to me. You can actually not get really cheap/bad paper here in shops. No idea whether you could special order it, but nobody seems to do it. The only exception I know is newspaper paper, but that is not suitable for laser printers at all, too thin and rough.

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    10. Re:Photocopiers are a marvel of engineering IMHO. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or, the complaints come from the people buying the very cheapest printers from the cheapest big box stores

      Some years back, I went in to Staples to buy a laser printer. I had already researched what I wanted, and they had a model that would work for me. I was going to need to be able to print hundreds of pages per month (not a huge amount, I know, but the point is, not a page here and there).

      I went to the printer section, and the man came to try to sell me printers, and I pointed at the laser printer and said "that one." He started arguing and trying to sell me an inkjet printer instead. I guess they probably had to do that so they could try to sell me crazy expensive ink cartridges, but this guy was over the top. I finally had to threaten to leave the store without buying anything before he would sell me what I wanted.

      Two replacement toner cartridges later, I'm still using it. Never had a jam, although I don't try to use unusual paper with it.

  5. Why Paper Jams Persist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am more interested in knowing why does it say "paper jam" when there is no paper jam.

    1. Re:Why Paper Jams Persist by qwerty+shrdlu · · Score: 1

      So that after a while it can trick you with a real jam.

    2. Re: Why Paper Jams Persist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a good point. So many jobs that interact with real objects can never be fully automated. Even car washing machines require Mexicans to dry the car afterwards and scratch them hell out of your paint.

    3. Re: Why Paper Jams Persist by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      Why the hell would I want to pay a Mexican to scratch my car's paint? I can do that myself. ... If I ever washed my car. ... Which I don't. If God wanted my car clean, she'd conjure up a rainstorm.

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    4. Re:Why Paper Jams Persist by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      "Paper Jam" usually means that paper isn't at the point in the paper path that it should be. Could be due to a bad/blocked sensor or maybe a broken gear.

    5. Re:Why Paper Jams Persist by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Because you shopped at an awful big box store full of cheap crap, and that's the life you deserve: Unclogging imaginary paper jams.

  6. Former HP Printer Tester by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a former tester, I recall spending days trying to understand how and where jams occurred. My favorite paper jam issue was not one my team suffered, but another team that was working on a small laser jet printer.

    One of the media ('paper types') that was suppose to be supported was transparencies. HP Printers allow you to specify the type of paper (to items like 'plain', 'cardstock', etc.), but many people would leave it at default. If the default was left, the printer needed to at least survive the print job, even if it was a bit of a mess. So those transparencies were a rather special case. The fuser, the part designed to join the bits of toner to the media, had to work in many different climates, from 65 F degrees, low humidity to 90+ F degrees, 90% humidity, and in order to make that fuser optimal, the printer had to compensate. With transparencies, as I recall, in the cold, the fuser would heat up a bit more to compensate and so with transparency, the fuser would fuse the the transparency to the fuser. We lost several million dollar prototypes's fusers and days of productivity to this issue. Ultimately, I believe HP decided it was cheaper to pay the warranty costs than it was to fix the issue.

    1. Re:Former HP Printer Tester by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      Interesting.

      I'd think you'd just have the transparency jam before the fuser.

      If it's not in transparency mode, the clear should trigger a jam (that's how it works in printers I've used).

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    2. Re:Former HP Printer Tester by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This comment took me back to the halcyon days of the early 2000's, when printing your "slides" to plop onto the conference room overhead projector was how we rolled. Once PCs caught up and provided the proper ports and Windows made setting up your laptop as a projector easy, printing slides went out the door along with CRT monitors.

    3. Re:Former HP Printer Tester by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's an opaque strip on one long edge of many transparencies that you pull off after printing so the printer can sense it. Those strips fake the printer into thinking it is normal paper.

    4. Re:Former HP Printer Tester by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Surely that would have been solvable with an IR reflect sensor and an IR gap sensor? The IR reflect sensor would go off whenever anything was in the path (paper or transparency) and the gap sensor would only go off if it were paper. i.e.: transparency detection = reflect + !gap.

    5. Re:Former HP Printer Tester by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      The printer could very easily decide that a 1/4 inch long sheet of paper is too short and throw a jam when not in transparency mode.

      I work with commercial equipment more than desktop type stuff, but almost every machine I've used throws a jam pretty early in the paper path when using a transparency that it's not set for.

      There are transparencies with a whole sheet of paper though, those I assume would get through.

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  7. In my personal experience by taustin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    which is probably not representative, paper jams persist because my employer buys the cheapest paper they can find. The kind that clumps and sticks to itself, that sheds paper dust like it's snowing, that has uneven edges, etc.

    1. Re:In my personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      add on, the fact that you have users who still don't know how to operate a computer, let alone a printer.

      My favorite jam was on our copier. The lower media drawer has two side by side 8 1/2 x 11 spots, with no separation between them. Even though the signage in the drawer shows you how to load paper, and says the proper size to use, people can't be bothered. So some schmuck puts 11x17 paper in the drawer (even had to remove the existing paper in it as I had filled it that morning), and jams the copier. Had to remove the jam, and call the copiers service line as it had thrown a code that required the vendor clear the error before it would print from the lower tray again....

      2018 and people can't figure out how to load paper.... god forbid if the copier runs out of toner or staples...

    2. Re:In my personal experience by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 3, Informative

      which is probably not representative, paper jams persist because my employer buys the cheapest paper they can find. The kind that clumps and sticks to itself, that sheds paper dust like it's snowing, that has uneven edges, etc.

      In a former life, I was a "key-operator" at a local Kinko's. Paper quality is just one of several factors. There's also the way you load it into the printer. Paper has a natural curl from being cut from rolls. IIRC, the curl is downward, so if you load paper from a ream, make sure to put the paper in the same orientation you got it out of the ream. Don't flip it. Then there's also humidity. It's a huge culprit. If it's too low, the sheets will cling together due to static electricity. If it's too high, the sheets will cling together because they're damp.Other reasons that exist are dirty fusers, worn or dirty rollers, bad toner cartridges, etc.

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    3. Re:In my personal experience by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Informative

      Having done printer repair, I am not proud of it but I needed the money.
      However the most common causes are the following.
      1. Worn out feet: Those rubber wheels that pull up the paper, get warn out over time and has a hard time grabbing the paper, when it does it is past the timeout period on the sensor.
      2. Warn out fuser: The fuser is a heated roller they have a plastic/silicon covering on it, to prevent burning the paper. over time with heating and cooling the covering gets warped so the paper will not always fit in.
      3. Bad Paper: Cheap paper that just sticks and doesn't flow properly.
      4. A previous jam: There was a jam previously that wasn't as cleared out as people expected.
      5. Bad ink (for solid ink printers): Cheap ink has a slightly different melting and cooling point then devices specification, causing ink to gum up the pathway.
      6. Bad solenoid: over time they get sluggish or stuck.
      7. Warn out gear. Those plastic gear if handing paper a bit too much for them ware out.
      8. Blocked or malfunctioning sensor: a bad sensor says there is a problem when there isn't really anything.
      9. Non-Paper blockage: Staples, Paperclips, bubble gum, rodents, bugs, hair, fingernails... causes blockage.
      10. Abuse: Just smacking bending parts breaking pins....

      Most of the Jamming problems can be fixed with regular maintenance. As unlike other computers moving parts (such as a hard drive, or DVD or floppy drives) there is a lot of torque and energy evolved with a lot of parts exposed to the elements.

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    4. Re:In my personal experience by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      We solved a lot of those problems decades ago with tractor feed paper. No need for all the complex paper handling stuff modern printers have when the paper itself has a built in system for pulling it through straight and without relying on friction rollers.

      I guess people don't like the tractor holes. Maybe if the people who made ring binders got together with the printer people and agreed to make the tractor paper fit in the folders without needing to punch extra holes or use a plastic bag... Then again these days we shouldn't be printing 90% of the stuff we print anyway.

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    5. Re:In my personal experience by vtcodger · · Score: 1

      Add to the list worn out ribbons for ribbon printers, tired/damaged drums for laser printers, plugged cartridges for inkjets, and broken pins for dot matrix.

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    6. Re:In my personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh yes those tear off tractor edges... turn them into bouncies by cross folding two together...see who can make the longest one.. total printer pr0n.

    7. Re:In my personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am a printer tech as well. you got most of it right.
      where I work one jam means the end of the world! printer is worthless get us a new one!
      most jams are cause by the EU. because they don't know how to load paper correctly or they don't care about setting the paper tray settings right so they get mad when the labels they put in tray 2 (which is set for plain paper) end up jammed in the printer and the labels came off on the drum and fuser. causing both to have to be replaced. ....some EU's I like...most I do not.

    8. Re:In my personal experience by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      rubber wheels that pull up the paper, get warn out over time and has a hard time grabbing the paper

      They got that memo ordering them to stop grabbing stuff.

    9. Re:In my personal experience by orgelspieler · · Score: 2

      We still have one printer at work that uses continuous feed for triplicate forms. The paper is getting more expensive, though. Never jams, but getting the driver to work on a new computer is always exciting. I remember one program that you could make banners with that would just keep printing on multiple sheets of continuous feed paper. You can't do that with a DeskJet.

    10. Re:In my personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sticky paper isn't cheap, it's actually fuzzy and made for inkjet printers. The sheets, at a micro-level, kinda "velcro" themselves together. Shedding dust is what happens when fuzzy paper gets de-velcroed. You shouldn't use "inkjet" paper in a laser printer. Copy/multi-purpose paper is OK. Laser paper is too slick for inkjet ink to stick to, so don't use it in an inkjet printer.

      Uneven edges is probably caused by old-school inkjet users, though. Inkjet printers, due to the fuzzy paper, usually require you to "fan" the paper before loading it. Laser printers, needing more neatly-stacked paper usually work better if you leave it in a packed block right out of the ream. A lot of office clerks, when they "fan" the paper, will tear up the edges with jewelry, stuff laying on the desk, or just general carelessness. If they're not re-trained when the office gets a laser printer, they'll continue to do this and cause all kinds of paper jams.

    11. Re:In my personal experience by g01d4 · · Score: 2

      Having done printer repair, I am not proud of it

      If, as seems likely, you were good at your job you should be. Personally I've got a lot respect for repair people who rapidly resolve issues and share information with their customers. Sharing information can result in fewer service calls being made and when they are they contain more useful specifics.

    12. Re:In my personal experience by taustin · · Score: 1

      Yeah, we use what's cheapest, and it generally says laser on the label somewhere.

      The problem isn't using the wrong paper for the printer, it's using the cheapest paper available from the office supply store by the pallet.

    13. Re:In my personal experience by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      almost every office printer other than the very cheapest model has an optional attachment for rolls of paper for continuous printing.

      You don't even have to get a professional grade printer for that, much less go to a tractor.

    14. Re:In my personal experience by twosat · · Score: 1

      .. total printer pr0n.

      When I was at university in the 1980's the main printer of our Prime 750 supermini was known as pr0. When I see posts on Slashdot saying things like "your pr0n collection" my first thought is of a large dot-matrix page printer.

    15. Re:In my personal experience by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      And don't forget poorly made printers in that list. Sometimes, manufacturers cut corners on the strength of their motors, and those printers jam constantly when a better printer would have been able to push the paper through. And sometimes, manufacturers have poorly designed paper guides that don't stay tight against the paper, causing the paper to be slightly turned as it goes in. If the printer doesn't have a lot of tolerance on both sides of the paper path, it will jam.

      But my all-time favorite printer manufacturer screwup was the HP LaserJet 81xx series. These printers are tanks, and you wouldn't expect them to ever jam, but you'd be wrong. Thanks to a programming bug (at least in their most recent firmware), if you try to print 11"x17" double-sided, the printer starts pulling the next sheet of paper too early, and it jams EVERY SINGLE TIME. I reproduced this bug with multiple printers in that series, and even tried swapping out the duplexer before I realized what was going on. The only way to print double-sided content on 11"x17" paper with these things is to print two pages (front and back) at a time, and let the paper path completely clear before you print the next pair.

      If the gradient banding problems hadn't already thoroughly turned me off towards HP printers, that experience would have. Now, I treat HP printers like people with the flu, and actively try to avoid dealing with them. My more recent experiences with their printers haven't been much better, with their Inkjet drivers on Mac having a bug that causes them to print 8.5"x11" pages at something like 110% enlargement (thus cutting off content) unless you use a custom paper size that just happens to also be 8.5"x11".

      About the closest I get to jams on my Konica Minolta 7450 II grafx are false "paper tray full" errors, which can be fixed by flipping the little flipper on top with your finger. I've jammed it maybe twice in the better part of a decade, both involving trying to print on both sides of card stock. And my little Brother HL-1440 printer only jams if something prevents the paper from coming out at the top. Not all printers are created equal. Some are particularly bad.

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    16. Re:In my personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paper jams persist because printers are designed for perfect conditions. If their standards were relaxed to accept non-perfect paper then jams would happen less often. Of course this will increase the cost of the printer.

      You could also change the standards to use auto-feed paper or rolls of paper and have the printer automatically cut the feed helpers/paper spool at the proper spots. These would reduce the cost of the printer.

  8. Why Paper Jams Persist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Proponents of A.I. keep telling us that the job of feeding individual sheets of paper from the paper tray to the printer will soon be automated.

  9. Paper shredder by SirMasterboy · · Score: 2

    Couldn't this be solved by simply putting an extra strong paper roller into the printer that simply feeds into some sort of paper shredder?

    Is there no market for peopel willing to spend more on a paper jam-less printer?

    1. Re:Paper shredder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Paper shredder by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Just like car tires, whatever the endurance, someone will try to run them longer. It soon becomes extra extra strong. there is no limit to the desire for longevity of parts, and in most printers (not those in TFA which are worth getting preventative maintenance to avoid $$$$$ downtime) they are run till they break - then the complaints begin.

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  10. I can put up with the occasional paper jam by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 1

    Better than getting the "lp0 on fire!" message.

    1. Re:I can put up with the occasional paper jam by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      That's the joy of the parallel port; it sources enough current it might really be on fire!

  11. XEROX die finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Xerox is the worst out of all, office printing nightmare...

  12. Office Space by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

    They could at least have answered the age old question: "PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean?"

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    1. Re:Office Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Paper Cassette" - but yeah, I remember when that came out - it baffled many an admin assistant far and wide..

    2. Re:Office Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Paper Cassette - load letter sized (8.5" x 11") paper

      It means you are out of letter sized paper in the holder.

      "Load paper" would likely have been better from a UI stand point.

    3. Re:Office Space by omnichad · · Score: 1

      "Load paper" would likely have been better from a UI stand point.

      Unless you're in a legal office getting that error because you have 8.5x14 loaded.

    4. Re:Office Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "PC LOAD LETTER? What the fuck does that mean?"

      Turn in your geek card right now.

    5. Re:Office Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Print Control message: load Letter-sized paper into the primary tray.

      Michael Bolton can turn in his geek card and go back to singing like an ass-clown.

    6. Re:Office Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What it can also mean is that the adjustable paper guides in the tray have been bumped/moved, so the printer no longer thinks that it's letter size paper in the tray. That has frustrated many a user as the user insists that the printer has paper, while the printer insists it does not (or at least, not the right size)

    7. Re:Office Space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HP Jam Paper? What the fuck does that mean?

      Duh, it's what hackers use to get "sudo makemeasandwich" to work.
      The second tray is for HP Peanut Butter Paper, obviously.

  13. My favourite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My favourite jam is still strawberry. Who cooks jam from paper anyway?

    1. Re:My favourite by war4peace · · Score: 1

      I do. That cellulose-flavor is amazing. Satisfies the bookworm in me.

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    2. Re:My favourite by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favourite jam is still strawberry. Who cooks jam from paper anyway?

      Higher in fiber that way

  14. The three primary parts of a printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    1) The jammed paper tray
    2) The blinking red light
    3) The manual in Chinese

    1. Re:The three primary parts of a printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haiku; you wrote one.

  15. Why Pearl Jam Exists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WFT?!

    I always thought people liked them...

  16. Mock apple pie by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    The same people who bake pies using Ritz crackers for the filling? The recipe is on the Ritz box, but has anyone ever eaten such a thing?

  17. Why do you persist? by sycodon · · Score: 1

    Paper: Because I choose to.

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  18. Michael Bolton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "PC Load Letter.

    What the fuck does that mean?"

    1. Re:Michael Bolton? by gweihir · · Score: 1

      "Paper Cartridge: Load letter-sized paper, please". Simple.

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    2. Re:Michael Bolton? by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      As if you're confused about where to load paper.

      Hint - not in the output tray, nimrod.

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    3. Re:Michael Bolton? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forget that the displays on printers from that era had limitation on the number of characters. PC probably seemed like a good abbreviation for Paper Cassette, and IT is just chock full of TLAs that can mean 5 different things so why not?

  19. Our Future by tinkerton · · Score: 1

    I can just imagine the printer in the year 2500.
      The print button doesnt work well because of a bad electrical contact and you have to press 15 times to get it working. Then the paper jams and you have to get it out.
    And then you get 7 copies because it actually did work part of the time but was just slow on the uptake.

  20. Imagine her resume by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I wouldn't characterize it as annoying," Vicki Warner, who leads a team of printer engineers at Xerox, said of discovering a new kind of paper jam. "I would characterize it as almost exciting."

    I suppose that there's a bullet point on her resume stating that she discovered a new kind of paper jam. The people from HR probably just roll their eyes and think, "yeah, I've 'discovered' new types of paper jams, too..."

  21. Office Space by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 0

    HP Jam Paper? What the fuck does that mean?

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  22. This woman is obviously a masochist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After fighting with an office copier and its endless jams for just a little over a year I still recoil at the sound of a copier door being opened. This person LOVES IT. What the actual fuck?!

  23. "Exciting"? by sjbe · · Score: 1

    "I wouldn't characterize it as annoying," Vicki Warner, who leads a team of printer engineers at Xerox, said of discovering a new kind of paper jam. "I would characterize it as almost exciting."

    Well some people do get aroused by pain. Not my particular brand of vodka but to each their own.

    I suppose we should be glad that people exist who find that sort of problem interesting. I certainly am not among them.

  24. Pointless endeavour of paperless office by bigmacx · · Score: 1

    So many customers have been on the quest for the "paperless office" only to find after they discard all the paper controls and security workflow, putting it all on some database, that they end up printing even more paper. Why, because everyone just prints "the current report" without regard to whether they need to keep it or not.

    It used to be with paper controls (signatures, checklists, etc) that the paper document was valuable, guarded, and stored. With paperless offices, people print like crazy without regard to the actual value of the document past a moment of use; they just like the tactile feel, easy markup, and ready in-person sharing of a physical piece of paper.

    What the paperless offices do though, and do well, is remove the security and workflow of the paper-based office into an electronic form. In that aspect, a paperless office corporate project can be successful, but not for the surface level idea of vastly reducing paper use.

    People like their hands and fingers, and they like touching things more than a featureless unresponsive pane of glass... I find "touch screen" to be an oxymoron; those things actually remove a human's sense of touch.

  25. No-brainer by mark-t · · Score: 1

    The reason that paper jams persist is because we persist in using paper in the first place.

    While I apologize for how cheeky that might sound (can't help it, I'm Canadian), that doesn't mean it isn't true.

    That's like the classic joke of a patient coming to a doctor and then raising one of their arms high over their head, says "Doc, it hurts when I do this!" and all the doctor says to him is "Well, don't do that!"

  26. ADD PAPER / LETTER SIZE by tepples · · Score: 1

    It would have been slightly clearer in Europe as PC LOAD A4. Europe uses "A4" size paper, which doesn't share a name with a word that also generically means "document". Given the tech of the time, it might have been better to flash between two messages ADD PAPER and LETTER SIZE (or A4 SIZE for Europe).

  27. You bake the crackers by Latent+Heat · · Score: 1

    into a pie filling, not the box.

  28. We eliminated paperjams by nospam007 · · Score: 1

    ...by storing the paper in a small climate-controlled room.

    It's moisture that makes the paper jam.

    1. Re:We eliminated paperjams by mspohr · · Score: 1

      What does paper jam taste like?
      Is it good on toast?

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    2. Re:We eliminated paperjams by Falconhell · · Score: 2

      Amongst many jobs, I fixed copiers for a few years. You dont need a climate controlled room, for those customers who had paper dampness issues, a 20w incandscent globe in the paper cupboard worked fine keeping it dry.
      The main problem was with coloured paper, where a partially used ream would be stored for some time, the standard white was used quickly enough to not have a problem. Most copy paper is in a wax lined outer wrapper to prevent moisture from getting to it.
      Dampness caused the static charge used in the process to bleed away to ground thru the paper too, resulting in poor copy quality and jams.

    3. Re:We eliminated paperjams by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amongst many jobs, I fixed copiers for a few years. You dont need a climate controlled room, for those customers who had paper dampness issues, a 20w incandscent globe in the paper cupboard worked fine keeping it dry.

      So not a climate controlled room, just an enclosed space with a device that electrically influences the relative temperature and humidity of the air within it? Brilliant.

  29. Paperless office by andrewbaldwin · · Score: 1

    Paperless office ?

    an anecdote:

    Years ago I was at a meeting where I was told by a member of another organisation that "we are supposed to have a blame free culture" to which I responded with a completely off the cuff remark that "a blame free culture is about as likely as a paperless office".

    Fast forward about 8 months and at a presentation by a member of that organisation to a group of us working in a multi company team and my words appeared almost verbatim on a PowerPoint slide covering "real world viewpoints".

    Still applies nearly 20 years later

    1. Re:Paperless office by bigmacx · · Score: 1

      When I was a corporate lowly weenie a long time ago, a group of IT peeps got together with purchasing dept on a kaizen project for switching to recycled toner.

      After months of huge research, diagrams, tables, and presentations, they got approval. And we were a large company with almost 100k employees.

      In the years that followed, the recycled toner started tearing up printers everywhere. Turns out the increase in maintenance costs (we tracked those prior and after for other reasons before the switch) outweighed by a large margin the savings from recycled toner...

      Lol, I bowed out of that group early in the pre-approval research phase to work on VOIP. The VOIP was a success, of course.

    2. Re:Paperless office by mspohr · · Score: 1

      Paperless bathroom?

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    3. Re:Paperless office by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      You don't know how to use the three seashells?

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  30. Smacknostics [Re:In my personal experience] by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    10. Abuse: Just smacking bending parts breaking pins....

    This is caused by frustration over 1 thru 9. Smack-repair appears to work on the Millennium Falcon, and real-life in RC robot sports fighting* ("Battlebots"), so people keep doing it.

    * I've seen several instances where a "dead" bot comes to life when the competitor whacks it again. One driver kept shouting "please hit me, please hit me!" It's usually best to leave stopped bots alone. Of course, whacking may make something temporarily work, but is not a good long-term repair strategy for office equipment.

    1. Re:Smacknostics [Re:In my personal experience] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have actually had this fix quite a few printers.

      Especially on the top-feed printers, small crap (thumbtack, advil, paperclips) would get dropped in them regularly.
      Flipping them upside down and smacking them an open hand for a bit worked amazing well.

      Even on newer tray-fed printers, part of my standard troubleshooting of printers involves turning it over and smacking the heck out of it.
      It still fixes things a considerable percentage of the time and is cathartic the rest of the time.

  31. Paper Fondeler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Printers are essentially paper torture chambers,

    This is why printers should come with the obligatory paper fondelers, or tissue fondelers. Soft robotics to the rescue!

  32. "A trivial problem reveals the limits of tech".... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Coming from the New Yorker, this is pretty much what you would expect from the sort of people who can write pages of glib rhetorical flourishes but don't understand what it is that they're talking about. But they do love their dead trees.

  33. "I wouldn't characterize it as annoying," by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you think a paper jam is not annoying you are retarded! Ever seen office space you fucking idiot? It's like saying, I wouldn't classify murder as killing. You want to be be so god damn clever you ignore any semblance of common sense.

  34. So.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop printing hardcopies?

  35. Smiling behind her glasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just wondering why anyone thought we need that detail? Glasses? We need to know she's a geek?

  36. Sigh. by ledow · · Score: 1

    I hate printers, and photocopiers.

    It doesn't help that people expect them to do EVERYTHING - colour, fold, staple, multiple sizes, collation, bookleting, etc. all in the same job.

    If we could remove them, about 10-25% of my job would disappear and I wouldn't be sad at all. To be honest, few things that we print out are actually necessary at all. It's people who can't work on the screen who propagate the problem.

    I'm a mathematician. I'll give you handwriting/paper for mathematical formulae. For everything else, just put it on a document and share it with people. There's no need to print it out.

    In my life I've owned precisely two printers. A Sharp JX-9200 and a Samsung ML-4500. The first was a "winprinter", mono laser with parallel port. I used it via a NetportExpress for over a decade and it needed precisely nothing to work for all that time. The Samsung was a "real" printer that didn't require all kinds of custom CUPS junk and was still parallel - it also worked off the Netport and required precisely two parts in its life - a HUGE bottle of generic toner (literally a powder in a big jug). And one drum. I think I bought a rubber paper roller for it once, too, but it was literally pence and I could have used anything of the right size that had grip as it was just floating on a metal rod... I could have just taped the existing one, but the old one literally wore flat from being a ridged wheel because it saw so much use.

    Everything I've ever dealt with professionally before, during or since has been a huge heap of junk that requires so much attention, toner, ongoing maintenance, un-jamming and faffing that I can't be bothered with them. About the only printer I've used at work which I'd have considered was a HP Laserjet 4 (might be a 4V?) which came kinda close in terms of reliability.

    I've never owned an inkjet in my life, those are just a complete waste and always have been.

    I don't even own a printer now. I can't fathom why I'd really want to. The rare times I need to print something out, it's never urgent and I'll borrow someone else's (work, friends, the local newsagent). Hell, it's actually cheaper to pay for an online service that you email a PDF to and they print it, envelope it, put postage on it and post it for you in one hit. Let them deal with whatever huge automated monstrosity they have that does all that for them.

    Hell, last time I flew, you could just scan the boarding pass direct from a phone. You don't even need to print out plane tickets any more.

    Be suspicious of people who live by paper. It suggests they don't know how to use basic search-in-file tools, they want to swamp you in necessary data that's hard to analyse or modify, and that they can't read things on screen because they can't operate the computer sufficiently.

    1. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rare times I need to print something out, it's never urgent and I'll borrow someone else's

      It's easy to get by without owning anything--just use other people's stuff.

  37. Old fan fold paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1970 we had a slow line printer (fan fold paper). 100 lines a minute and folded OK at the back, but as soon as a form feed printed on a page only about 1/3 full it spun the paper so fast that it started folding backwards and soon jammed the printer and we got 10000 lines on 1 page.

  38. Experience with 3 different copiers by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 1

    I've had experience with 3 major brands of large floor standing copiers, Xerox, IBM, and Ricoh.

    Xerox copiers were the fastest but would jam 1 out of every 500 pages. Fanning the paper before loading the paper trays would help minimize the frequency of jams.

    IBM copiers were the worst but this was due to some extent as the result of administrative assistants not following instructions. Fanning the paper was mandatory otherwise the copier would jam within the first 50 pages (this was with IBM brand copier paper, too.) The copiers would also suffer constant breakdowns but this was also largely due to the admins doing stupid shit like running staple paper through the form feeder. Whoever said women are bright never met an administrative assistant, they are great at being social and managing someone's schedule but that's it.

    Ricoh copiers are the best of them all. I've only seen them jam when people try to print landscape data on a portrait layout using the wrong size paper for the job. The copier tries it's best to autosize and make things fit but gets confused and errors-out in the middle of printing. Fanning the paper has never been necessary and the admins have yet to break them. The only downside is they are slow to wake up from sleep compared to IBM and Xerox copiers.

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