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The Most Popular Linux Desktop Programs (zdnet.com)
The most recent Linux Questions poll results are in. Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols, writing for ZDNet: LinuxQuestions, one of the largest internet Linux groups with 550,000 members, has just posted the results from its latest survey of desktop Linux users. In the always hotly-contested Linux desktop environment survey, the winner was the KDE Plasma Desktop. It was followed by the popular lightweight Xfce, Cinnamon, and GNOME. If you want to buy a computer with pre-installed Linux, the Linux Questions crew's favorite vendor by far was System76. Numerous other computer companies offer Linux on their PCs. These include both big names like Dell and dedicated small Linux shops such as ZaReason, Penguin Computing, and Emperor Linux. Many first choices weren't too surprising. For example, Linux users have long stayed loyal to the Firefox web browser, and they're still big fans. Firefox beat out Google Chrome by a five-to-one margin. And, as always, the VLC media player is far more popular than any other Linux media player. For email clients, Mozilla Thunderbird remains on top. That's a bit surprising given how Thunderbird's development has been stuck in neutral for some time now. When it comes to text editors, I was pleased to see vim -- my personal favorite -- win out over its perpetual rival, Emacs. In fact, nano and Kate both came ahead of Emacs.
From: https://www.linuxquestions.org...
Desktop Distribution of the Year - Ubuntu (18.17%)
Server Distribution of the Year - Slackware (22.40%)
Live Distribution of the Year - Knoppix (18.31%)
Lightweight Distribution of the Year - Puppy Linux (29.75%)
Database of the Year - MariaDB (42.22%)
Browser of the Year - Firefox (57.84%)
Desktop Environment of the Year - Plasma Desktop (KDE) (27.83%)
Window Manager of the Year - Openbox (24.22%)
Audio Media Player Application of the Year - VLC (31.13%)
Digital Audio Workstation of the Year - Ardour (42.86%)
Video Media Player Application of the Year - VLC (68.01%)
Video Authoring Application of the Year - KDEnlive (
Network Security Application of the Year - Wireshark (33.33%)
Host Security Application of the Year - SELinux (35.71%)
Network Monitoring Application of the Year - Nagios Core (32.73%)
IDE of the Year - Geany (15.98%)
Text Editor of the Year - vim (28.32%)
File Manager of the Year - Dolphin (25.24%)
Open Source Game of the Year - 0 A.D. (17.31%)
Programming Language of the Year - Python (30.00%)
Backup Application of the Year - rsync (41.30%)
Log Management Tool of the Year - Logwatch (36.96%)
X Terminal Emulator of the Year - Konsole (22.01%)
Browser Privacy Solution of the Year - uBlock Origin (28.13%)
Privacy Solution of the Year - Tor Browser Bundle (37.21%)
Open Source File Sync Application of the Year - Nextcloud (36.92%)
IRC Client of the Year - Hexchat (33.02%)
Universal Packaging Format of the Year - Snap (38.67%)
Single Board Computer of the Year - Raspberry Pi 3 Model B (64.18%)
Virtualization Application of the Year - VirtualBox (64.53%)
Container of the Year - Docker (67.14%)
Orchestrator of the Year - Kubernetes (62.07%)
Linux/Open Source Podcast of the Year - Linux Action Show (16.00%)
Secure Messaging Application of the Year - Telegram/Signal (Tie - 38.46%)
Video Messaging Application of the Year - Skype (54.76%)
Vector Graphics Editor of the Year - Inkscape (68.97%)
Linux Desktop Vendor of the Year - System76 (63.49%)
Email Client of the Year - Thunderbird (63.45%)
I have yet to see any realistic alternative to Thunderbird. Most other local clients are so bloated I might as well just go to the gmail web panel. Thunderbird is the most lightweight email client that I can see. Too bad it has been abandoned.
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Actually this list is rather surprising that there isn't any really popular Linux App, that isn't widely used in other platforms. This list is mostly just rather basic tools for 2018, Web Browser, Video Player, Text editor, and Windows Managers.
Back in the days.
Macintosh had its Adobe Suits for desktop publishing
DOS had its word perfect and Lotus 123
Windows had its Office Suite
Amiga had its video tools
In general the other OS's seems to have a flagship tool that stands for how the product is primary meant to be used for.
Linux doesn't seem to have that. Probably mostly because it is heart it is a server OS. So what really probably should be on the list is Apache MySQL PHP Or whatever is more popular at the moment.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Since TFA brought it up I can't wait for an evidence-based, rational discussion on the best text editor for Linux.
Saying KDE Plasma is the most popular app is like saying that Explorer is the most popular app on Windows. While technically true, it's also the default, and you can't really use the OS without it. Could you use other window managers? Sure, but I'm not sure a window manager counts as an app.
KDE has earned these results. For years now KDE development has been thoughtful and conservative; no iconoclasts have been permitted to blow up everything in another doomed attempt to reinvent the desktop. Small but crucial things have survived incessant pressure from well meaning but short sighted people, such as the fact that you can still turn off fucking compositing. I hope they can stick to this pattern for a few more years and continue earning trust.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
Simple as this, "Popular" doesnt mean something is "Better", it just means it is more widely used and marketed. Marketing isn't just for selling products, it is also a way to influence others to be in agreeable with you on a particular idea. In this case, it is the marketing of "use my free software because..." and whoever has the loudest, furthest reaching voice generally wins.
For one huge example, the list has text editors. Emacs? Vim? Nano? And we're talking about desktop distributions? Hands down, none of those compare to the quality of Sublime Text as a text editor.
As others have pointed out in this post already, there isn't any "killer apps" for Linux out there. So the software being ran is all console software with a prettified multi-tasking window manager to organize all of those console windows. This seems to be the current mindset of all Linux is really used for in the desktop space.
But I have since moved to SMPlayer for video. The video quality is night and day better through mplayer. Has a lot of CLI options for streaming too.
You kids don't know how lucky you got it. When I was coming up, we didn't have any fancy Linux to use.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It's true, Unix has never had a 'killer app': the 'killer app' was always Unix.
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When I install by default, it gives me VLC. So if you are a new user, that is what you learn to use and that is what you will prefer. I still like MPlayer as that is what I started with. The same goes with vim instead of nano.
The same goes with the fact that Firefox is still installed by default. I still have it on my machine, but now use Chrome.I use it to see if it a site does not display how I expect it to display and see if it is the site or the browser. Till now always the site.
It would be nice to know what the least pre-selected software is or what the first is that people remove.
Just as an exte: I use XFCE, because each time you start KDE, a puppy is killed and each time you start GNOME they kill a kitten. True!
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
The point for Linux for the desktop is to show that Linux can be used for the Desktop.
It has been this way from day 1.
Linux on a personal computer is more of a Workstation OS then a Desktop OS. Outside the server/appliance role Linux is a good OS for software development, and just serious computing tasks.
Can it work as a desktop, yes, however for the average person why bother? The PC they get has Windows installed by default anyways, and most of their devices they will want on it will indeed work with Windows. Linux for the desktop for people without the need of any Linux's strong point just isn't a good sell. Windows comes free as in beer on the PC anyways.
That said, I normally switch older hardware to Linux (Built for Windows XP) as it will be updated, and still run at a good speed. And its desktop features are good enough for people to use. But on newer hardware, you might as well stick to Windows, if you are not interested in other OS's
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I yanked an old PC out of the closet a few weeks back and decided to make is a useable box with Mint. Easy peasy, Mint installs a runs like a charm. Then I go to install a wireless USB network adapter and find drivers are not supported. Googled and tried a few 'solutions' but to no avail. I switched with another USB adapter I had lying around and it work, less AC capability. So fine, I can live with that. Then I next go to add my Dell laser printer. But no driver. So I Googled and tried a few 'solutions' to custom install/build a driver but to no avail, I wind up with printer telling me there are data errors.
All that took way too much effort. My problem is I don't like to give up and keep on trying. This new "PC" I've set up has been nothing more than a lesson in Linux limitations as a popular desktop.
CentOS is nothing more than a free version of RedHat. So, as far as "popularity" goes, they should be counted together. Just like one is bundling up different versions of the same distribution.
That would give us:
RedHat EL (+CentOS) = 33.34%
Slackware = 22.40%
PS: Oracle could also be grouped with RedHat and CentOS, but no one care because no one uses it anyway :)
PS2: Considering the very low total number of votes (366) and the different in votes between CentOS and Slackware, statistically speaking, even if you disconsider RHEL, those two are tied in at 80 and 82 votes each.
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Seriously, can somebody explain to me how can you use vim and say that is better than Visual Studio with the resharper plugin? VS completely destroys every IDE available in the free software world by far. How can you use vim in 2018?
You experience is not uncommon. However trying to get windows working on an older PC, often has similar problems.
Being that you are trying to put a newer version a system, there may be things that you may not be able to get drivers anymore for. A google search finds that that particular driver isn't supported on the version of Windows. And links to the old windows version is gone. This is common with a lot of older Win-Devices. where the PC and the driver do all the heavy work, and the device itself is rather basic, A printer not dealing with PCL or PostScript but just raw commands to get the paper, and draw what and where... If you can get the driver it works, if not, you are SOL.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
I made my own desktop. Two epoxy-glued layers of 3/4 inch plywood, covered and edged with off-white formica. It is supported by 2-drawer file cabinets. Size is 8 ft wide and 3 ft deep. I have 2x4 reinforcements underneath the top. Holes in the back for cables. It is a solid thing you can jump on. From Amazon I got a pull-out drawer unit for pencils, and some other bric-a-brac. I have a keyboard hutch, and the monitor used to be on top of the hutch, but now is on an arm from the wall. I like this desktop, rugged, custom and ample enough to do work, including soldering up things from time to time. www.xalaska.com Nome, Alaska, USA
As you noted, Libre Office wasn't even on the list. Even in the article the most popular were computer management apps and no mention of productivity apps.
This is a large part of the reason I stopped using Linux on the desktop. When the computer was the ends, rather than the means, it was great. However, at this point in my life, the computer is the means, not the ends. When I just need to get work done, Linux just isn't the tool.
Look at the actual numeric breakdown deeper on the forums. We're talking about a couple hundred votes per category. To suggest that this is representative of 550,000 members, let alone all Linux users, is ludicrous. Nothing about this is a scientific poll, nor is is particularly "hotly contested."
Back in the 80s, the only semi-decent editor I could use on my atari 520-ST was Microemacs. My day job was working with Unix so I was familiar with vi (and even ed), and I'd tried emacs, though it usually brought the computers of those days to their knees.
I liked microemacs (or uemacs as I called it). And when computers became powerful enough to run emacs, I'd use emacs as though it were microemacs. There probably are better editors out there, but my fingers know the commands of those old guys and what's more, I like keeping my fingers on the keyboard when I work, not having to reach for the mouse.
In theory, theory and practice are the same; in practice they're different. (Yogi Berra & A. Einstein)
I have recently moved my main machine to Linux (long-time Windows user until that moment, only relying on Linux for secondary computers) and one of the few difficulties has been finding a proper replacement for Notepad++. Finally, I found a quite good alternative: Komodo Edit. I don't like too much the most common/famous Linux text editors.
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/bin/login is not normally used if your using X for your display manager (GDM, xdm, LightDM, etc). /bin/login is probably launched and remains idle for days at a time on most systems.
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Why do you think AMD is really the best choice for a laptop? I don't think this should be a subjective decision.
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Why did you link to ZDnet, instead of linking to the source at LinuxQuestions?
I use vlc a lot. But mplayer let's you skip ahead or backwards from the keyboard. The side arrows are short skips, the up and down arrows are bigger skips, and page up and page down are even bigger skips. When I'm searching for something, or skipping over commercials, that's really nice.
VLC is the best implementation overall though. Changing aspect ratio, reading subtitles, all those kinds of things work best in vlc.
In theory, theory and practice are the same; in practice they're different. (Yogi Berra & A. Einstein)
Geany is the best editor.
For one thing it works on Window and Linux equally well. With plugins (download the bundle) I have everything I need... except for code folding with MORE and LESS that Kedit once had. Maybe I will write that plugin someday.
Vim sure yes if you have to over a shell connection for sys admin or something - but why anyone wants to use a mode editor from the 70's as their development platform is beyond me.
Isn't half the point of Linux that you fresh install your own version of Linux, getting rid of any bloat that came with the computer?!
I run Renoise (yup, paid for that one), Ardour, Rosegarden, Hydrogen, ZynAddSubFX, SooperLooper, Audacity, Qsynth, LMMS; I use Clementine as a music player.
I got an Epson printer and quickly found out they don't make drivers for linux either.
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> Backup Application of the Year - rsync
I like that.
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Hasn't somebody made a GUI based BASIC thats nearly equivalent to VB6?
Can't remember the name or if they made it free, but I remember shuddering at the prospects of people madly writing VB6-like apps for Linux.
If I had a DeLorean... I would probably only drive it from time to time.
Disappointing that there did not seem to be any categories for photography software, such as image catalogue management or editing. There was a "Video Authoring Application" category, however.
Server Distribution of the Year - Slackware (22.40%)
CLI paste? paste.pr0.tips!
It's surprising that Linux users prefer to use a stable and mature program that does exactly what is required? Or is it just surprising because it lacks "stories"?
I feel so sig.
I used to use KDE years ago, but they lost me. I tried other things but landed on XFCE and haven't looked back.
I switch to new things if
a. I am forced to change ... e.g. something quits working, is unsupported, or some other reason I can't control
b. I get so frustrated I am willing to change. And it would take a lot to make me come back.
c. I want to change because I see something that fits my needs better
I switched from Firefox to PaleMoon because of b.
I switched from KDE to XFCE because of b.
I still use vi (vim) and pine (alpine) because they aren't broke, and do what I need them to do. It's hard to replace things like that.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Why would any app limit itself to being available only on one OS? Working on Linux I find it easy to bring my work over to any other OS, and that is extremely helpful. I can be productive wherever I go, and be sure my files will be usable. Of course I prefer the environment of Linux to to my work, but I am not restricted to it.
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