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Trump Issues Order To Block Broadcom's Takeover of Qualcomm (bloomberg.com)
Bloomberg reports that President Donald Trump issued an executive order today blocking Broadcom from acquiring Qualcomm, "scuttling a $117 billion deal that had been subject to U.S. government scrutiny on national security grounds." From the report: The president acted on a recommendation by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the U.S., which reviews acquisitions of American firms by foreign investors. The decision to block the deal was unveiled just hours after Broadcom Chief Executive Officer Hock Tan met with security officials at the Pentagon in a last-ditch effort to salvage the transaction. "There is credible evidence that leads me to believe that Broadcom Ltd." by acquiring Qualcomm "might take action that threatens to impair the national security of the United States," Trump said in the order released Monday evening in Washington.
For some reason.
I am pretty good with both of these outcomes. It was pretty clear broadcom just wanted to gut qualcomm.
I guess in your universe "the news broke" means "Senate Republicans declared"
but her emails
This reminds me of a similar deal that was similarly scuttled: the proposed purchase of Fairchild Semiconductor that was then owned by French company Schlumberger, to Fujitsu, a Japanese company. In either case, Fairchild would have been owned by a non-US company from a "friendly" country. National security was the given reason, but Japan's then-growing leadership in semiconductors against US companies was the understory.
Broadcom, Qualcomm, bring back 3com.
So we're going to post this story, but completely ignore the news that broke today that the whole "Russian hacked the election" and "Russia colluded with Trump" turned out to be entirely false?
No, House Republicans came up with that conclusion, somehow opposing the entire US intelligence community in the process. The fact that they both decided that Russians did meddle in the elections but somehow did not sought to help Trump is some Orwellian-level doublethink.
You mean the "bipartisan" investigation that is subject to republican whims is being closed down with nothing found? I'm shocked, astounded...
You do realize that isn't the only investigation being done, right?
I've had enough problems with Broadcom's chips and Broadcom's lack of support for their chips that I think Trump did the right thing here. I tried to bring up a parallel computer on Broadcom's MIPS chip once, eventually decided they were lying about the performance and it couldn't really retire one floating point instruction per cycle. We gave up and switch back to Intel CPUs.
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
"The investigation is being closed with nothing found."
Cite?
" completely ignore the news that broke today that the whole "Russian hacked the election" and "Russia colluded ..."
All I see is some partisan republicans on a house commitee releasing a statement to that effect. Nobody else seems to be buying it; including the Democrats on that same committee. Nevermind the statement from the CIA etc.
In other words: shut up comrade.
If Nunes said something didn't happen, that's actually pretty good evidence that it DID happen!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Please stop, that is demeaning to mentally handicapped people!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Yeah, that's what happened today. Right. House Republicans issue a report that other Republicans did absolutely nothing wrong and they're shocked...SHOCKED, I tell you, that anyone would even suggest that other Republicans did anything improper to win an election. It's not like there have ever been any other examples of Republicans doing anything criminal to win a presidential election, so how dare you even suggest such a thing is possible. In fact, we demand an immediate apology. Stop laughing. There's nothing funny about this.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Yes, Slashdot should retract what the press and the FBI says because Slashdot is responsible of what they say. Right after when the Russian Orthodox Church proclaims Josif Stalin as a Saint. Which can happen at any moment now.
It is hard enough for us to protect our privacy against the likes of Google. Throwing foreign entities into the mix would be suicide.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Lol, the lefties are losing their minds. Not only is there no collusion found even when it was investigated by a corrupt DNC & deep state witch hunt, but what was found out during the whole process implicated the DNC and the Clinton's crooked foundation.
Next up, special prosecutor for the FISA abuses by the DNC. Sayonara, shitheads!
You do realize Trump killed more Russians in one evening than Obama did in 8 years?
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
Out of laughter?
They just could not find any collusion which does not mean there was no collusion, specially given the fact that they were wearing republican glasses which blinded them completely.
It has become apparent to me that the man uses the expression to mean whatever he thinks it ought to mean, and has no bearing on the actual definition of the term.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
so basically, lobbyists for Intel were successful to fend of this merger, as it would've definitely sunk the Intel behemoth.
now they managed to maintain status quo until the next time...
not Trump. Nobody listens to Trump. This became obvious when the stock market stopped reacting to his tweets. He literally said we should ignore due process and take away people's guns. If Obama had done that gun stocks would have gone nuts. When Trump did it not even a blip.
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Benghazi, Uranium, Emails, OH MY!
Russian mercenaries were sent to try to take oil fields near US forces. Said Russians had tanks and armored personnel carriers. They shelled at or near US forces.
US forces ripped them to pieces with drone strikes, Apache helicopter gunships, airstrikes from F15E's, capped with a JDAM bombing from passing B52's. I have heard that they also used counterbattery artillery and A10's as well, but haven't seen that confirmed. All of their armored vehicles were destroyed or damaged, hundreds of Russian mercs were killed.
Oh please. This investigation has been going on for over a year, with not even a hint of any collusion. The only ones being blinded by partisanship are the left, mad at President Trump for defeating The Annointed One.
Oh please. This investigation has been going on for over a year, with not even a hint of any collusion. The only ones being blinded by partisanship are the left, mad at President Trump for defeating The Annointed One.
19 indictments (13 of them Russian nationals) and 5 guilty pleas so far might disagree with what you deem as reality.
Do we really want to go down this slope? Unlike utilities, these companies operate in an industry that makes a product that can be made anywhere and by anyone. If we really want to continue this path, then Iâ(TM)m going to ask: Why should a vital part of our national security include products owned, made, and sold by external organizations who have no interest to serve and protect the people that use those products?
somehow opposing the entire US intelligence community in the process
Please cite a single source (not including Hillary Clinton) that quotes "the entire US intelligence community" as concluding that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. Please, fire away. Feel free to explain how the special counsel's recent indictments of 13 Russians, in which Mueller went out of his way to mention that that there wasn't any collusion, supports your narrative about how the entire intel community says there was. Be specific.
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Sure: https://www.dni.gov/files/docu...
This report includes an analytic assessment drafted and coordinated among The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and The National Security Agency (NSA), which draws on intelligence information collected and disseminated by those three agencies. It covers the
motivation and scope of Moscow’s intentions regarding US elections and Moscow’s use of cyber tools and media campaigns to influence US public opinion. The assessment focuses on activities aimed at the 2016 US presidential election and draws on our understanding of previous Russian influence operations.
When we use the term “we” it refers to an assessment by all three agencies.
Broadcom is a Singaporean company that decided to pretend to be US company by moving headquarters specifically to help seal this deal.
Also, anti-chinese sentiments are nationalist, not racist. Conflating the two is a rather basic error.
Is this seriously about the race of the CEO? The US has sunk that far already?
I mean I despise the slow merging of gigantic companies into massively powerful companies but this seems against what this president stands for.
wow trump must be really talented to turn a bunch of anticorporate left wing tech hippy nerds into 80s yuppies all of a sudden.
"Will Slashdot admit that and post a retraction for all their bogus Russian stories?"
Patience, Bubba. Rome wasn't sacked in a day and Nixon hung in for a bit over 2 years after the Watergate break in.
Oh, yeah, I heard about that from the WH. Trump was on a white horse, with a chromed helmet, and waving his saber as he yelled, "CHARGE!" Go Donald! Save the world! And don't fret about holstering Putin. It'll all be over soon and you can get your GOLDEN SHOWERS again (j/k).
Please cite a single source (not including Hillary Clinton) that quotes "the entire US intelligence community" as concluding that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians.
The claim that Russia colluded with Trump is not correct, however the decision to end the investigation with the conclusion that Putin did not seek to help Donald Trump get elected disagrees with the rest of the intelligence community, who are all still investigating. At least that's my understanding.
http://lite.cnn.io/en/article/h_4698a17d0611fb5123466721feb0db7d
if there's any dog yellow enough to get these folks to stop voting Republican. When Clinton (Bill) moved the Dems to the right the Republicans had to follow suit to maintain their identity. Then the corporate PAC money started flooding in (Thanks! Citizens United) and the Dems moved right as the corp money flowed in and again the Republicans moved further right to compensate.
So now we've got a country where 97% of Americans support Universal Background Checks on guns and zero chance of getting one, Our president just said drug dealers should be put to death and praised China's president for establishing a dictatorship for life.
Are the Republican voters just living in a perfect bubble or do they really just not care as long as it doesn't have a D next to it's name?
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Oh please. This investigation has been going on for over a year, with not even a hint of any collusion. The only ones being blinded by partisanship are the left, mad at President Trump for defeating The Annointed One.
Watergate break-in - June 17, 1972
Saturday night massacre - October 20, 1973
"I'm not a crook" speech - Nov 17, 1973
"One year of Watergate is enough" - SOTU address Jan 30, 1974
3 articles of impeachment approved - Jul 27-30, 1974
"Smoking Gun" tape released - Aug 5, 1974
Tricky Dick resigns - Aug 9, 1974
Is this what passes for evidence in the Democratic party these days?
For anyone too lazy to read the whole document, no where does it mention collusion with the Trump campaign. Not that the parent cares, he just hoped that by linking something people would go "Oh, a link! It must be true!" And judging by the upvotes, he was correct.
And before you claim the motivation is nationalist not racist, you should probably check the nationality of the person involved first.
Except that none of the indictments have anything to do with trump Russia or the election. Why is it that you guys always leave that part out? Oh yeah because this is a witch hunt.
Avago (a Singapore company) purchased that Broadcom and renamed themselves Broadcom.
Avago itself started as the semiconductor division of HP, but was sold off as part of the HP-Agilent divestment to private equity firms.
Broadcom itself is an amalgamation of the various companies it purchased over the years. This probably helps to explain why there isn't much coherence to thier documentation or general business strategy.
Ok, I'll bite. Here are the direct quotes of Conaway (a Republican):
"Bottom line: Russians did commit active measures against our elections in '16, and we think they'll do that in the future," Conaway said. "It's clear they sowed discord in our elections. ... But we couldn't establish the same conclusions the CIA did that they specifically wanted to help Trump."
Is that what you meant by "entirely false"? Plus, that doesn't really explain why the Republican majority shut down their investigation so quickly (unless they're trying to hide something). After all, nobody tried to shut down the 911 commission prematurely, when no evidence was found that US officials had colluded with Bin Laden. After all, the investigation was started to investigate "Russian Meddling", not specifically "Trump Collusion".
I wonder, when did that change for the Republicans?
And just to put things in perspective, even if you don't think that an attack on our leadership process an act of war (which is kind of silly if you don't think that), the 9/11 attack at the time cost us ~3,000 casualties, but in the case of Crimea, the Russian incursion has already cost our ally ~10,000 lives.
And please notice the weasel word "specifically" in "that [the Russians] specifically wanted to help Trump." Of course, we already know that's not true. The Russians were trying to help both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump (although Donald Trump is the only one that retweeted their stories).
And of course, that still doesn't explain why they'd shut down their own investigation so quickly, when everybody else, the Mueller team, Trump's own Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA, etc. are raising even more alarms than ever before at a more frequent rate than ever before.
"Leave that part out"? Yeah Boris, i guess charging thirteen Russians of running a state-sponsored effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign has nothing to do with Russia.
Nationalists are racists, your argument is invalid.
No. The document states repeatedly that a) Russia interfered with the 2016 election and b) did it with the clear intent of helping Trump get elected, which is exactly what the GP stated before ScentCone ran away with the goalpost.
Oh no, trolls on twitter, Facebook and 4chan are posting that Hillary Clinton gif with flies on her face... there go her chances of being elected.
Well, it works. You should know.
"The investigation is being closed with nothing found."
Cite?
" completely ignore the news that broke today that the whole "Russian hacked the election" and "Russia colluded ..."
All I see is some partisan republicans on a house commitee releasing a statement to that effect. Nobody else seems to be buying it; including the Democrats on that same committee. Nevermind the statement from the CIA etc.
In other words: shut up comrade.
After the memo I've been wondering if the Republicans on the house intelligence committee could be charged with obstruction of justice.
I mean if they're deliberately trying to tarnish the investigation and Mueller in order to give Trump cover to shut it down then that's pretty much the definition of obstruction.
I stole this Sig
As I said, this is a very basic error. Repeating it after being corrected on it implies malice rather than ignorance.
To be closer to their supply chain. You just made the argument for me. Thank you.
P.S. Conflating state interests based discrimination with discrimination based on race is either ignorant or malicious. I have corrected this error already for the ignorant. This leaves the malicious to mindlessly repeat it. Mindlessly repeating it does not make it any less wrong.
And that is only a sign of the pathetic candidate and campaign that the Dems lead.
Racism and nationalism usually go hand in hand. This is especially true when the leadership of the nationalist movement caters their efforts towards a certain race. The US nationalist movement that Trump supports is specifically a White nationalist movement. There is no confusion about this, unless of course somehow you are just someone that doesn't get the obvious.
It was the Republican majority on the House Intelligence (sic) Committee; the Senate Intelligence Committee haven't finished. They did agree that the Russians interfered.
"Bottom line: Russians did commit active measures against our elections in '16, and we think they'll do that in the future," Conaway said. "It's clear they sowed discord in our elections. ... But we couldn't establish the same conclusions the CIA did that they specifically wanted to help Trump."
All racists are humans. Therefore all humans are racists. Therefore you are racist and we don't have to listen to you.
Your argument in a nutshell, but with a slightly wider criteria than one you cast. Or you can stop pretending that Trump is a racist, or that this decision has anything to do with race in any way, shape or form. Your choice.
Explain us the difference, please?
See, he is a unifier, only stealthily like a good manager.
Nationalism is discrimination based on nationality. Nationality is something that is granted to you by the nation and can be changed through process known as naturalization.
Racism is discrimination based on race. Race is a characteristic that comes with your genome, and is unchangeable.
They didn't say both those things:
"Representative K. Michael Conaway, the Texas Republican who is leading the investigation, said committee Republicans agreed with the conclusions of American intelligence agencies that Russia had interfered with the election ..."
Broadcom was and has always been a British company. Moving their corporate headquarters first to Singapore then the US is just a shell game and you're falling for it.
If stupidity was able to be weaponized, you would be the single source of global disarmament. You moron.
You're ok with letting Americans get raped and dragged through the streets of some shithole country by barbarians. You think it's a big fucking joke. This is why Trump got elected. Because scum like you are so self righteously horrible sub-humans and don't have the tiniest bit of self knowledge.
Have you no shame?
yeah can't imagine any reason for anti-Chinese sentiment. You know you can be against the ideals and goals of a foreign power without being discriminatory to people of that power's ethnicity right?
Please cite electoral criminal activity by national level republicans running for office.
Oh wait... you can't. Because it's never happened.
How about you talk about Gore v Bush as a distraction instead?
Russians have been interfering with elections for nearly one hundred years. I'm glad someone is finally taking notice.
Yeah no, that is not what happened. Broadcom (a US-based company) was bought by Avago (a Singapore-based company) who then took the Broadcom name but kept the headquarters in Singapore since it's really still Avago under the covers.
Are you serious? Have you ever heard the name, "Richard M. Nixon"? He was the previous Republican president who resigned in shame after having illegal activity exposed by a special prosecutor. It was kind of a big news story. There were 69 indictments and 48 convictions. A whole bunch of Republicans went to prison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
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Trumpâ(TM)s order is interesting. The intent he describes is nationalist, but it should be easy to understand that because Trump ordered it, an indication of his support for White Nationalism should be obvious to see. This isnâ(TM)t White Supremacy (on a technicality), but letâ(TM)s be practical about this? The concepts are related enough to make you get up from your armchair and actually take a look. So, look at Trump. Itâ(TM)s obvious what Trumpâ(TM)s preferences are when you remember his past behavior and learn about what we know his father had done and taught him also. Rather than craft a cute set of formal logic a pre-law curriculum offers, simply see all that he has done and said. Letâ(TM)s not forget his brilliant defense: heâ(TM)s the âoeleast racist personâ â" in support of this, he tells us heâ(TM)s making America great again. Whatever that means. Sounds racist to me.
You could finish the summary right there, and it would be news. President takes advice, rather than just going with the first thing to pop out of his head, or whatever got the biggest cheer at a political rally.
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but it took 2 years to get the ball rolling with Nixon, and there was a lot less corruption there to deal with.
This comment is chocked full of fail, but let's just jump to my favorite part, that the basis for this decision is anti-Chinese discrimination against Hock Tan.
You do know that Hock Tan is... not Chinese... right?
Also, anti-chinese sentiments are nationalist, not racist. Conflating the two is a rather basic error.
Hey brainlet racist, you just connected Singapore with China, and "conflated" the exact "basic error" you accused the GP.
Are you in all seriousness suggesting that state of Singapore does not have deep links with PRC? In that case, you need to pick up any book on the topic of relations between the two.
But considering the first two words, I don't think you possess the mental faculties for topics more complex then "racist, racist, you're racist. lalalala I can't hear you".
Trump's past behaviour is clean cut condemnation of racism. As your assumption appears to be built on foundation of the exact opposite, it crumbles all on its own.
Basically, the defense is "Trump and his campaign team were a pack of fucking idiots."
I guess complete incompetence and a total lack of judgment is better than being outright corrupt. Sure glad we've cleared that up. Here, Mr. Trump, the dumbest candidate in history, here's a nuclear power to run for four years. Try not to electrocute yourself, or irradiate the planet! Don't worry, a Republican Congress terrified of the mouth breathing base has your back, at least until the mouth breathers figure they elected a barely functioning senile half wit who eats cheese burgers in bed and can't even read briefings.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
Hurr you can be racist against Canadians... Durrrr
So we're going to post this story, but completely ignore the news that broke today that the whole "Russian hacked the election" and "Russia colluded with Trump" turned out to be entirely false?
No, House Republicans came up with that conclusion, somehow opposing the entire US intelligence community in the process.
So, the post expresses frustration that we're going to ignore the news that the committee finds the "Russia colluded with Trump" notion is false. A response to that comment says that the entire US intelligence community is in opposition to that finding. I replied to that patently absurd assertion. Which was the stupid part, exactly? Be specific.
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"it isn't rigged. Stop whining." - Barack Obama, October 2016
And your team lost to them... Making you even more fucking retarded.
The irony is so delicious. Posts like yours are why I voted for Trump. You were so smug... So condescending... Then you lost. Now you're just insane.
*We pretend that Bill Clinton never happened.*
Collision, dipshit. The key word you ignored was Collusion.
You are a fucking imbecile.
> Racism is discrimination based on race. Race is a characteristic that comes with your genome, and is unchangeable.
It is widely recognized that genome differences are minimal, i.e., all men are effectively equal. In other words, the concept of "race" is not applicable to mankind (except e.g. for the Neanderthals which really were another race AFAIU).
Cultural differences are more significant. An American -- if raised in Japan -- would be Japanese and a Japanese baby, adopted by an American family, would be 100% American, looks notwithstanding.
It is quite foolish to consider that someone would keep different values or possess a foreign culture just because of skin color. People have a right to an opinion of their own, but no opinion is powerful enough to change a fact.
This is the modern far left interpretation, which seeks to expand meaning of racism from inherent traits to actions, and then use it as a weapon to gain power and privilege, as you are trying to do.
It does not make it any less of a malicious lie.
> All racists are humans. Therefore all humans are racists.
You cannot say that. It is wrong.
Like in "all dogs are canids, therefore all canids are dogs".
All dogs are canids, that's true. But not all canids are dogs; canids which are not dogs: foxes, hyenas, etc.
Private Equity and Corporate Raiding is bad news, regardless of race.
I don't think you fully understood what I said. Because of the criminal activity around Richard Nixon's Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP) there were sixty-nine indictments and forty-eight convictions. People went to the federal penitentiary for years. Nixon resigned from the presidency and had to be pardoned by his (second) vice-president. And it all started with a burglary and a cover up. There were actually seventy-six indictments and fifty-five convictions during the Nixon Administration, but only 48 of those convictions were directly connected to crimes committed in relationship to Watergate break-in.
This is what you said in your previous comment:
Now, do you want to apologize to the class?
Clinton got a blowjob and lied about it. Nobody went to prison. Nobody was indicted. Nobody was convicted.
During the Obama administration, there were zero indictments, zero convictions, even though the House GOP conducted investigations that went on twice as long as the current House Intelligence Committee's. The came up with nothing. There have been already been 22 indictments during the Trump investigation and five convictions. That's convictions. Not allegations. Not accusations. Convictions. As in "guilty". As in felony. And we're not anywhere near the end. Mueller hasn't even gotten to interview Trump or his failsons or Ivanka yet. There are lots and lots of witnesses left to talk to.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Yeah, it's not like the US Intelligence agencies have ever LIED or did shady shit to achieve their goals right?
Go read up on how the DMCA was pushed through, both domestically and pushes for it internationally.
It was a definite 'domestic security concern'.
Having said that: I would've blocked the purchase by French above that of the Japanese. The French are *KNOWN* to spy on corporate competitors, especially friendly ones. The japanese undercut on prices, but unlike the french and chinese I haven't heard about them using corporate espionage (although plenty of reverse engineering) to get ahead...
The parent company, Avago, was created when Agilent Technologies sold off part of itself to KKR and Silver Lake venture capitalists. When it was formed, the privately held company incorporated in Singapore. When now publicly owned Avago bought Broadcom, the parent company was still incorporated in Singapore. While both Avago and Broadcom had their headquarters in the San Jose, CA area, the owner, Avago, was, and still is, incorporated in Singapore.
It's not the Democrats who are fucking retarded, it's the people who voted for Trump thinking (and I use the word in its broadest sense) that he would or indeed could be a competent president.
Don't feel too badly about it, most countries have a sizable number of morons in their electorates (just watch the Russian 'elections'!), though it's true they don't usually go full retard like the US.
Broadcom was and has always been a British company. Moving their corporate headquarters first to Singapore then the US is just a shell game and you're falling for it
Broadcom was founded by a professor and student at the University of California Irvine.
The minority lineage, aka Avago, came from other great American companies such as HP and LSI.
It is as American as Apple pie.
Yeah no, that is not what happened. Broadcom (a US-based company) was bought by Avago (a Singapore-based company) who then took the Broadcom name but kept the headquarters in Singapore since it's really still Avago under the covers.
No, that isn't what happened either.
Both Broadcom and Avago were 100% American. Avago was NEVER Singaporean.
When Avago took over Broadcom Corp the NEW merged company, Broadcom Ltd, was domiciled in Singapore.
You are an absolute fucking idiot.
Please cite electoral criminal activity by national level republicans running for office.
H. R. Haldeman, John Ehrlichman, John N. Mitchell, Charles Colson, Gordon C. Strachan, Robert Mardian, Kenneth Parkinson, and Richard Nixon?
...and the most hated candidate in history,but it was her turn so Bernie took a dive for money how noble.
Some Russians were helping Hillary cause she was making deals with Russia.
How you people can act like Uranium 1 deal was ok and that 30k emails were all private is baffling.
Guess that long list of dead people in her wake is just bad luck.
If you people were so fucking desperate for Hillary why did you let Obama win she was in the lead oh right your the party of identity politics and black man Trumps white woman.
Trump won because of the left.
I was left leaning but the left made me right.
That's right. Founded in the West Country of Britain, known as California by some.
Broadcom was and has always been a British company. Moving their corporate headquarters first to Singapore then the US is just a shell game and you're falling for it.
Are you confusing Broadcom with ARM Holdings (a British company)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm_Holdings
Or is it because Broadcom chips make up most of the Raspberry Pi (a British project, founded by some ex-Broadcom employees)?
What became current Broadcom Limited (Avago) "...was founded in 1961 as a semiconductor products division of Hewlett-Packard.. The division separated from Hewlett-Packard as part of Agilent Technologies in 1999... KKR and Silver Lake Partners acquired the division of Agilent Technologies in 2005 for $2.6 billion and formed Avago Technologies."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcom_Limited
Old Broadcom (Broadcom Corporation) "... was founded by professor-student pair Henry Samueli and Henry Nicholas from UCLA in 1991. In 1995 the company moved from its Westwood, Los Angeles office to Irvine, California In 1998"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcom
Appears both "Broadcoms" started in the USA. Yes, they have a development/design centre in the UK, but they aren't "British".
Thank you captain obvious.
You do know that Hock Tan is... not Chinese... right?
Mr. Hock Tan *IS* an ethnic Chinese, from Penang, Malaysia.
His parents are Chinese. He speaks Chinese. He even went to a Chinese language school.
By denying Mr. Hock Tan as a Chinese, you are denying his racial heritage, and by doing so, congratulations !
You have promoted yourself to be a RACIST !!
First of all, collision doesn't mean collusion. The two terms are not even related.
Second, when someone says that x AND y "turned out to be entirely false".
I just need to prove one of those claims NOT false and I can ignore the rest. That's it. That's the beauty of boolean logic.
Seriously, I thought that Russian trolls would have been better at logic. Next time, please just escalate me directly to your supervisor.
You liberals are so funny with your "partisan republican" but the good upstanding democrats aren't buying it.
Bzzzt, Wrong. It's partisan democrats grasping at straws after Crooked Hillary lost the election fair and square. Director of the CIA Clapper is a proven liar. The messiah himself Barak Obama said "instances of significant voter fraud are not to be found." Every serious expert agrees. Obama, who saw all of the national intelligence daily briefings went so far to say "there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's election. Dumbshit democrats should stop whining. Even after illegally using FISA to wiretap Trump's team, they still lost!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXpRswM-tzc
Thirteen random Russians defeated a 2 billion dollar presidential campaign where the leftist candidate lost to "literally Hitler" who was also facing 95% negative reporting in all major news media throughout the US?
You probably should take a step back and think about your claims and the sense of relative scale of importance.
95% of the media
2,000,000,000 dollars
a thousand Hollywood celebrities
all major tech companies, Google, Apple, Facebook, Twitter
several million volunteers
more than a few thousand non-citizens voting in key states
a Nobel Peace Prize winner, who will forever hold the record of "most drone strikes ordered" and "children killed by his orders"
a "super qualified" candidate with decades of experience in handling state secrets, operating IT equipment, using alias addresses and benefiting from sudden accidents of her enemies
and they all LOST to
13 Russians with a Twitter account
1 "incompetent" "literally Hitler"
Maybe you need to rethink your argumentation. Whatever the plan was, if it can be destroyed by 13 Russian trolls, then the plan was bunk to begin with.
Genome differences are minimal between orangutans and humans too, doesn't make us the same species. Genome differences are also minimal between people with autism, Down syndrome and people susceptible to various cancers, this doesn't make their outcomes in life their choice, upbringing or society's fault.
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If your multi billion dollar campaign can be destroyed by 13 Russians with a smartphone, your campaign was crap.
....who threatens national security like no other is Trump himself. He should sign an executive order that prevents Trump from engaging in any political and public activities.
Also, anti-chinese sentiments are nationalist, not racist. Conflating the two is a rather basic error.
Its not racism because Chinese is not a race? Seems to be the usual racist logic.
Also it's both. Racial and nationalist. Trying to pretend the two are mutually exclusive is disingenuous at best, but outright lying is a better description.
Also the irony of arguing that it's not one kind of bigotry because it's another, completely related form of bigotry is clearly lost on you. Its the difference between being an arsehole and being an arsehole because one form of irrational bigotry isn't any better than the other.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Here, Mr. Trump, the dumbest candidate in history
So, how does someone so dumb become a billionaire anyway? If we went by your posts in this topic alone, you'd be halfway to that goal already.
You know what? Let's play a game of what-if. And let's say Trump manages to get N.Korea to back down, denuclearize, and a peace treaty all at one go. Which is what the N.Koreans are now pushing, and pushing for hard. Is he still dumb? Or is he smarter then the previous president(and want-to-be president), that destabilized the middle east, created a massive refugee crisis, managed to kill the EU and create a new slave trade in Libya.
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Hundreds is unconfirmed. More like 17 or so acknowledged.
...This is why Trump got elected
By "This" I suppose you mean how some people were so manipulated by propaganda that they would chose to be victimized and love it so much they feel compelled to gloat by pompously lashing out at others exposing their own hypocrisy. AGREED
Now be gone troll!
As there are no biological races as such in humans there are also no racists.
Are you stupid or just pretend to be on /.?
Yes, 13 Russians, who it was deemed were NOT colluding with the Trump campaign as the media has been screaming. That's sort of an important detail that you're omitting. They may have been trying to manipulate the Trump campaign, but the claim was collusion, not manipulation.
Fake News brought back from the dead. They had nothing except Russian media RT penetration - it's in the f***n PDF itself - nothing is in it more to the truth. Move on kid. You're completely out of your depth.
That's unimportant though. After all, Merkel was trying to help get Clinton elected after all.
So I'm to a Malay woman, who's 1/4 chinese (Han) I believe. Everyone is generically labeling "Chinese" as one "race", when in actuality there are many races/ethnicities within China Han, Uyghur, Zhuang just to name a few. Also my sister in law is 1/4 Han, 3/4 native Malay, she went to "Chinese" school and speaks fluent Mandarin (Chinese) does that make her "Chinese"?
The levels of sheer ignorance in discussions like these is shameful.
It is as American as Apple pie.
you mean ipie?
"Married" to a Malay woman. I accidentally a word.
Are you in all seriousness suggesting that state of Singapore does not have deep links with PRC? In that case, you need to pick up any book on the topic of relations between the two.
Hey Luckyo, as a brainlet racist, are you in all seriousness suggesting that state of Singapore should be removed from the F-35 Lightning II Security Cooperative Participants roster? Maybe we kick Israel off that same roster as well?
F-35
It is widely recognized that genome differences are minimal, i.e., all men are effectively equal. In other words, the concept of "race" is not applicable to mankind
And yet, we still somehow manage to segregate ourselves based on our appearance--an attribute most people call race.
The hypocrisy here is that you guys say stuff like this, but then you constantly call out things like "white privilege", "rich white people", or "white girl/guy dance". Race is most definitely a thing. And you are just as susceptible to the tribalism as everyone else. Sadly, you're probably white yourself. You just think that it okay to discriminate as long as it's against your own race, while you condemn others for the same behavior.
Pro-US sentiments are nationalist. Anti-chinese sentiments are indeed racist
SHUT THE FUCK UP you lame unintelligent racist fuckbag. You have nothing of use or note to contribute here, go away and let the adults talk.
fucking die bootlicker pig, you are no real American
good luck having Japanese citizenship if you are not Japanese by genes.
Basically, in most nations, if you are NOT born into it, you will always be an outsider.
I can't wait until we take everything back in 2018 and beyond, then I PERSONALLY get to take away your right to vote, then your guns you pigfucker
if you can't act like an adult we won't treat you like one, but MY country is no longer going to tolerate YOUR bullshit
Israel have been involved in every election since the 60's, why are they permitted, but not the Russians.
"You liberals are so funny with your "partisan republican" but the good upstanding democrats aren't buying it."
Would you be happier if I said partisan republicans and partisan democrats? I only said partisan once to highlight that it was a partisan break, but if it means so much to you, yes, I recognize the the house comittee is split along partisan lines... as in both parties are being partisan.
...the annual tons of production of maple syrup! ...the game of dominoes. All of it. ...whether BBQ is to be properly done with or without sauce. ...the size of the Inauguration Ceremony. ...Turtles. Why is it Turtles all the way down?
SHUT THE FUCK UP you lame unintelligent racist fuckbag.
What an adult thing to say.
There's no evidence at all that he's worth billions of dollars. You have to take him on his word for that which isn't worth much.
He's declared bankruptcy many times, no US bank will give him loans so he had to run to the Russians and Chinese to fund his projects which are really just money laundering operations. The clock is ticking down and the law is catching up with the Trump scams.
Then again maybe a porn star and election violations will take him out before Mueller completes his work.
Funny and sad that people side with a person like Trump over people who know the meaning and are actually true patriots.
Good luck trying to get the snowflakes to see your logic. Hillary was hacked by an insider. To say the Russians left "finger prints" is horse sh*t. The Russians, if they hacked us would not have left "finger prints" They f'in came up with blue pill and you want us to believe that somehow they left evidence of their hack. Stupid.
Let it go dude. Hillary lost. Dry your weepy eyes and try to move on.
Geeshhh!
So, how does someone so dumb become a billionaire anyway?
Is he a billionaire? I'd like to see tax returns please.
Genome differences are substantially different with down syndrome, seeing as it's an extra chromosome (with the same set of genes)
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19 indictments (13 of them Russian nationals) and 5 guilty pleas so far might disagree with what you deem as reality.
Do any of the indictments reference/amount to collusion?
Because that's the statement to you were responding to.
List of indictments
Maybe you were too busy yelling in your head "WE GOTTEM THIS TIME"?
So you can see why is so important to so many people that Russia be to blame here.
It couldnt be that the people actually chose Trump, no.
It couldnt be that both the Dems' and Repubs' election machine failed, no.
It couldnt be that the people actually wanted to discuss new topics, no.
It couldnt be that celebrities dont hold the sway they think they do (or are marketed to hold), no.
It couldnt be that so many large corporations that invest in a image of doing public good could be wrong, no.
It couldnt be that the huge investments made by so many dont actually buy much, no.
It couldnt be that pushing a packaged candidate doesnt work anymore, no.
It was the Russians.
He inherited millions from his dad.
his marriage seems more like a business arrangement than a marriage. I can't imagine Melania cares what he does. Any more than Hilary cared what Bill did.
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Depends on how you classify "substantially". If it was truly "substantially" different, people with Down's wouldn't even be anything near human. A single chromosome when each 46 have 3 billion DNA base pairs is a "slight" difference which was my point.
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You have explained why racism is irrational. Racism, regardless of irrationality, exists, and is still a factor in the decisions of racists.
Considering the mountain of evidence you provided for your extreme statement, I think we can dismiss it on the merits you provided.
Are you suggesting that programs that are in part designed to keep certain US allies attached to US are also a measure of local ties to China?
Are you a supporter of blank slate stupidity, or are you going to play the "race has a scientific definition and therefore common parlance usage does not make it a race" card?
> Sadly, you're probably white yourself. You just think that it okay to discriminate as long as it's against your own race, while you condemn others for the same behavior.
This is not sad at all. Either we don't have racism or we should all bear the suffering of being targeted by racism from others. So, yes, white must be victims, too.
You cannot have things only in favor of white guys. This is certainly unfair.
My point is not accepting racism towards whiteys while condemning it against other groups.
My point is "racism is my enemy". I am here to get rid of racists. Obviously, by mindful action, not violence (otherwise I'd fall in the same category as racists).
And don't start me up on "I have the right to be racist". This amounts to "I have the right to lie, to be evil etc.".
To accept accountability would be to admit being terribly flawed, and invite reform. That will never happen for an organization that is this steeped in hypocrisy. Deny, and accuse others of which you are guilty.
So its Sander's fault, and Stein, and Comey, and deplorables, and now Russians with paltry advertiser spending. They have their own army of paid trolls and allied media to make any correlation a causation, and then an accepted narrative.
Free speech proves to be an obstacle for their gaslighting efforts, so now its in the crosshairs too. Critics and journalists and actual progressives will be shouted down or deplatformed for being Putin puppets.
> Genome differences are minimal between orangutans and humans too, doesn't make us the same species.
The problem here is the definition of what is minimal. You could say the difference between human and cat genome is minimal, too -- when you see them compared to that of a fly, for instance.
Rather, the point is we're so equal us homines sapientes (plural of homo sapiens) that we're not different enough (as DNA is concerned) to be separated in races. The difference is enough to separate us from orangutans, but even so we're similar enough to be all Primates.
> Genome differences are also minimal between people with autism, Down syndrome and people susceptible to various cancers, this doesn't make their outcomes in life their choice, upbringing or society's fault.
What you say is also applicable to ugly and beautiful people. It's not the society fault if someone is ugly. Or is it?
The very concept of beauty changes with time and culture. I can be ugly in one country and beautiful in another. It's not DNA (which is invariable)... it's culture.
And you cannot say someone would deserve to be the target of any racism because of sickness.
That would be... sick. :-)
Luckyo, your brainletism is more severe than first thought, let's do this in point form:
>Luckyo claims Singapore & China are in cahoots
>AC points out the Pentagon seems to have no problem sharing F-35 secrets with Singapore
to which that lightweight brainlet Luckyo replied with the following gibberish:
Are you suggesting that programs that are in part designed to keep certain US allies attached to US are also a measure of local ties to China?
You mind trying a little harder?
I know it's tougher for you being a lightweight brainlet and all.
Except I said no such thing. I said that company being Singapourean doesn't mean it isn't tightly connected to China. But good luck with your desperate trolling.
Except I said no such thing. I said that company being Singapourean doesn't mean it isn't tightly connected to China
Hey lightweight brainlet Luckyo, I believe you just admitted you equated Singapore=China.
Trying to soften your earlier ramblings with a double negative doesn't change your point of view.
I seem to recall your original rambling as:
Are you in all seriousness suggesting that state of Singapore does not have deep links with PRC? In that case, you need to pick up any book on the topic of relations between the two.
But good luck with your desperate damage control
So you marry a Malay who claims she has 1/4 chinese blood
A mule is a product of a horse and a donkey
Just like a horse, which is 100% horse, Mr. Hock Tan is 100% Chinese
Your wife? She is, unfortunately, a mixed-breed, a mule
In other words, you have married a mule
At the very least, they should be forced to relinquish the 'intelligence' part of the committee until the Republicans leave.
Thank you for proving yet again that right wingers are incapable of reading comprehension. GP's link does express that sentiment on multiple occasions. And the amount of evidence mounted is indescribably huge. This is why everyone is pretty much pleading guilty at this point; they know they're fucked.
So not minimal at all. ALL books in English have minimal differences in content: they use nearly all of them all 26 letters of the alphabet. Calling that minimal difference is as moronic as your case.
The genetic difference in genes in outside africa ethnic groups is less than that between two different ape families. 90% of human genetic difference is INSIDE AFRICA ALONE. The reason why inbreeding in humans is so bad so quickly compared to even the limited gene stock of animals is because human genetic diversity is so much smaller between humans than between the precisely same breeds of, say, horse.
Okay, what are you denying? Are you denying that Russians interfered with the election? That Sanders' run hurt Clinton overall? That Stein pulled votes away from Clinton? That Comey released a "Look at this! Well, apparently nothing." late in October? That it was a close election that could have been changed by a few hundred thousand votes in a few key states? Let's discuss the facts.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
What does facts matter to those whose goal is to work backwards from the conclusion that Clinton could not have lost due to her unsuitability as a candidate. There's no need to rehash these details ad naeseam, as their significance is overshadowed by the Democratic Party's inability to live up to their own namesake.
Everyone who disagrees or does not march in lockstep with the image of Trump as an inflated evil monster and pawn of a foreign enemy, will likewise be branded a pawn of a foreign enemy. Thinking on part of the loyalists is no longer required.
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Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
Except that you're making those people up, by and large. To those of us who are reasonable, it's obvious that there were things that hindered Clinton's campaign (one of them, of course, being that she isn't charismatic like Bill), and that things like Comey's October semi-revelation and Russian meddling were improper.
It was a close election, so changing one of those could have changed the outcome. (Heck, one of the reasons Gore lost in 2000 was a bipartisan decision to have an illegal "butterfly" ballot, which confused voters into voting for Pat Robertson instead of Gore.)
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Sorry, I don't swallow the bandwagon fallacy from the left that Clinton was unfairly disadvantaged, when she was so unfairly advantaged to the point of possibly even having her political opposition wiretapped via abuse of the FISA courts. Looking forward to a special counsel on that.
Russian meddling that disadvantaged Clinton in favor of Trump is also an assertion without basis in facts, and no, the conclusion by those on the DNC payroll that the email server was hacked by Russians that started this narrative has no credibility whatsoever. Assange is more credible than the proven liars at the DNC when he states the source was not Russians.
I recognize that it was a close election. That it could possibly be a close election for the Dems against Trump, speaks volumes as to how terrible a choice it was to betray any integrity and confidence in their selection process. But then, they were't expecting to have their dirty secrets revealed, did they, and what a liability Anthony Weiner was that investigating his underage sexting would lead to more leaked classified emails. It was amusing to see them turn on Donna Brazil who finally confessed, though.
But go on, impress me by how 'reasonable' you are.
People did things that were improper that worked against Clinton. These actions were meddling in an actual national election, as opposed to a party nomination process. There's a very large difference between the two.
I've seen no evidence that there were wiretaps on Clinton's political opposition because it was her opposition, although such evidence would be difficult to find if it existed. There were wiretaps on some members of the Trump campaign for other reasons. All of this is meaningless unless the FBI leaked evidence collected to the Clinton campaign, which there's no indication of. Nunes searched the documents and the best he could do was to insinuate that a warrant or two might have been requested misleadingly, which suggests to me that the whole thing was thoroughly professional on the part of the FBI.
Trump supporters could not be consistently against insults in general or bad sexual behavior, so those aren't reasons for the result. Assange has very little credibility.
"When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
Is he a billionaire? I'd like to see tax returns please.
You don't need to, look at the amount of property he owns. That's how 'net worth' is calculated after all. Earnings is something else, you should understand this basic fact.
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And you still couldn't answer my question could you? Got some nice whataboutism going on there.
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That's how 'net worth' is calculated after all.
What the fuck are you babbling about? "Net worth" is the delta between assets and liabilities.
And no, i don't know how many property Trump has. Neither do you, because HE DIDN'T SHOW HIS TAX RETURNS.