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Firefox 59, 'By Far the Biggest Update Since Firefox 1.0', Arrives With Faster Page Loads and Improved Private Browsing (venturebeat.com)
An anonymous reader shares a VentureBeat report: Mozilla today launched Firefox 59 for Windows, Mac, Linux, and Android. The release builds on Firefox Quantum, which the company calls "by far the biggest update since Firefox 1.0 in 2004." Version 59 brings faster page load times, private browsing mode that strips path information, and Android Assist. In related news, Mozilla is giving Amazon Fire TV owners a new design later this week that lets them save their preferred websites by pinning them to the Firefox home screen. Enterprise users also have something to look forward to: On Wednesday, Firefox Quantum for Enterprise is entering the beta phase. Firefox 59 for the desktop is available for download now on Firefox.com, and all existing users should be able to upgrade to it automatically. As always, the Android version is trickling out slowly on Google Play.
The headline says Firefox 59 is the "biggest update since Firefox 1". But it is Firefox Quantum which is described that way, not 59. Could someone please RTFA.
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Another update I don't have to suffer thanks to Moonchild Productions.
Time to donate $59 toward the Pale Moon project.
Bleh... Seamonkey (the real Netscape) still has all of you beat, even (especially) after all these years. We should celebrate its stability, at least in its user interface.
I'm on 45.9.0 ESR for most of my productive purposes (with the necessary blocking plugins, of course), PM for most everything "fun" and/or where security might be of concern. However, I'll probably beat 52 into shape sometime soon as 45 is a bit... crusty. This is an easily identified case of "the new version simply cannot fulfill my needs". I understand a desire to simplify, but you know, a car doesn't technically need 4 wheels, doors, windows, seatbelts, etc... but they definitely make it a lot more useful. Going full WebExtensions was/is a horrible misstep, in my (obviously very humble) opinion. You never go full WebExtensions.
There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
And how much of that is extensions that Google pulled out of their ass in the last year that aren't actually part of the spec?
FYI: I think the parent used https://html5test.com/
The headline says 59 is "biggest", while the summary says 59 builds on Quantum (that is, 57), and Quantum is "biggest".
That would be great. Right now if you want to make a kiosk device, the only browser that has enterprise long-term support is IE11. Chrome and FF don't have any kind of enterprise support. And Microsoft doesn't support Edge in their long-term support branch. If you purchase their embedded Windows or server Windows, it doesn't have Edge and there is no installer to add it.
I have been using Firefox since when it was only part of mozilla, but I have since moved to Waterfox, because I have not been able to replace my old extensions. And the newer version of my old extensions, e.g. noscript, really slow down the new firefox browser.
https://www.waterfoxproject.or...
Pulling a Microsoft, eh?
Table-ized A.I.
I have like 500 tabs open. Maybe it's that one tab that is requiring 1.9 GB of ram. Or maybe you have a malware infection.
Many of mine did not. For that matter, neither did any of my UI tweaks.
Anyway, since I'm everybody, clearly the update is unusable.
I have used only three addons, two of them stopped working after the update and the authors say that they can't port them. These two were the only reason to keep using Firefox, so I simply have switched to Opera. No drama, just facts.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Well sure, Firefox lets you quickly reopen closed tabs, it's not going to free memory that quickly.
59 will be the new ESR shortly...
This. The entire reason firefox ditches the broken old add on implementation is because it's full of security holes.
Making a fork to keep using the a vulnerable API is stupid.
PaleMoon is alas no longer an option at work, as it won't work on Enterprise Linux 6 anymore, the still supported and last systemd free major OS family.
And building it on my gentoo machine at home is not an option either, as I have to install and switch to old gcc 4.9 compilers just to get it to build.
Seamonkey is no problem building, but alas, there are a few sites it doesn't work with. Like the Kinja empire and BofA.
So Firefox it is, at least for now.
"about:memory" and press minimize memory usage button.
I simply have switched to Opera
So.. you switched to a browser with WebExtensions based add-ons? Might as well have keep using Firefox.
I'll be the first one to admit that I'm not up to speed on web standards, what standards hav google "åulled oute of their ass" lately, that is if we ignore the whole AMP thing?
market share is rather poinless ehen it comes to XP, It is EOL and therfor shuld not be used on anything connected to a network with internet access, at which point a bprwser becomes rather less interresting unless you hav an internal web app
> Disabling Javascript across the board just breaks most websites.
No, not those I care about (save very few).
Thing is, all web "designers" now assume every browser "does" javascript because browser "vendors" (and Mozilla is among the worst here) have been nudging users into just giving in.
This is the Internet equivalent of dumping garbage on the streets, to the detriment of all. What we get is bitcoin mining "plugins", and Meltdown deployment via Javascript in the browser (sandboxing? HA! "next time we get it right, promised").
As if it ever was a good idea to have a program which hoovers up executable stuff off the intertubes and... execute it on the user's machine.
Barf.
And oh, I don't trust a "plugin" on top of all of this mess.
I gave up and went to 56 after getting warnings from Google apps saying my browser version was no longer supported. 56 is the last version to support XUL addons, so my entire browser hasn't gone to the new shit UI and shit functionality, but it's still new enough to be fully supported.
I don't know what I'll do when 56 gets too old or a severe security issue is discovered and Mozilla refuses to backport the fix. Honestly I'm hoping something better has come along by then - perhaps a real fork of Firefox that continues with XUL compatibility and makes Web Extensions optional.
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Still no support for the old add ons.
The millennial that doesn't like most of the stuff designed for millennials.
Disabling Javascript across the board just breaks most websites. This is why the feature is gone. You should use the NoScript add-on to Firefox instead (It blocks more than Javascript, too!)
Unfortunately, the new redesigned Noscript has a fucking awful interface. So much worse than the old one.
If you use private browsing, FF59 removes "referrer values" when you click a link. And you can also change the default referer behavior for the browser. See: https://blog.mozilla.org/secur...
theweatherelectic is a paid promoter. His comments, nearly exclusively on Firefox stories (he's recently started commenting on some others after repeatedly being called out for lying about his affiliations, look back further in post history and you'll see absolutely exclusivity to Firefox stories before I and others began calling him out), and always starting within minutes of one being posted, repeat Mozilla talking points and downplay or deny every negative aspect of updates. Take this comment here, bragging about all his addons and 9000 others working, as if that excuses major limitations that count as "working", and the many very popular plugins that absolutely do not work. All of yours work? Well half of mine do not work and do not have equivalents.
I don't see why this comment is modded funny! Seamonkey still works great, and the web works with it just fine. It is the real mozilla.
In version 58 and all prior versions you could type "about:" in the URL window to quickly determine which version you were running. In 59, this feature is no longer available, however you can still type "about:ram" to check RAM usage.
Then use NoScript, as someone said above. Or disable javascript in the dev tools.
But you're going to keep crying like the little girl you are.
Meanwhile in the real world where people don't use a whole 3 addons and are actually capable of testing the new Fireshit to see what a shitpile in terms of addons it is, half the addon replacements come with stripped down addons that are shadows of their former selves - useless, a quarter can't be ported because new system doesn't allow deeper interaction between Fireshit and the OS like Open With because "muh security" (as if power users give a shit), and the leftover quarter barely works with some minor stripped and removed stuff.
I've offered extensive justification based on your behavior. You've offered absolutely nothing except "nuh uh" and ad hominen in response. Nobody is always there to comment on stories within minutes of them being posted, but only on one specific topic, across months and months, and always using the same talking points as the official pages, largely aimed at persuading those with criticisms to think their points aren't valid or important, continually advocating updating no matter what your use case, unless they're an employee or otherwise compensated to do so. You started with posting in other threads for deniability immediately after other users joined me in outing you, just another coincidence right? You have offered no other explanation, let alone a plausible one, for any of that.
And while my experience isn't universal, it's at least as common as yours. But I'm not the one pretending major problems don't actually exist.
> Then use NoScript, as someone said above. Or disable javascript in the dev tools.
NoScript under quantum has been a shitshow. Crippled and clumsy compared to prior versions.
> But you're going to keep crying like the little girl you are.
FFS. Javascript has been a necessary component of every single browser exploit for well over a decade now. There is nothing even remotely childish about wanting vastly better control over the #1 security bottleneck on the internet.
It's not as bad as it was in the first days of the 10.0 release. I actually had scripts fully enabled for a few days before I realized I had it configured wrong. But I agree it still needs work, and is missing a bunch of options 5.0 had which improved privacy and security.
Corruption is convincing someone that the selfless ideal is the same as their selfish ideal.
Lots of companies tell employees to post positive endorsements on social media without disclosing their affiliation. It's hardly some unheard thing. Bottom line, is there is no other more likely explanation for your observed posting pattern. Even your denial hyperbole lends credence to my case, you're constantly calling the idea bizarre and insane despite it very clearly being at a minimum highly suspect (and always the idea, you will never address any of the specific behaviors that led to it, pretty clearly because there simply isn't a more plausible reason someone would do what you do). Now you've issued a challenge to audit their finances? Really? Because I know your personal details? Because it's definitely not a verbal request to a employee? And the breakdown of what part of employee compensation is to you for one specific part of your job is in those records? Do you read the stuff you post? Come on.
As to Slashdot, a) It's far from the only site where incidents like this have occured, and b) It is important enough to target. The crowd that posts here are largely the type of people who get asked by all the non-technical users what they should use or to directly set up their systems.
By all means, continue posting 'nuh uh' instead of offering a plausible explanation for your posting behavior.
Even your denial
Ah, belief perseverance. I understand.
Opera is faster and several web extensions that were poor substitutes for the addons I have used previously didn't work with Firefox at all because apparently the Firefox implementation of web extensions is only partially compatible to Chrome and Opera.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Maybe you should simply get an old 14" CRT screen with 640x480 screen resolution and you'll get what you want. Otherwise, I see no fundamental changes except the color of icons ... and the hidding of the useless File Edit View... controls. (which appear by the simple press of Alt key)
Which addons do you actually need, that aren't available in FF57+?
Eat the rich.
Try again, this time without the pointless name-calling.
Come on, I know you can do it.
Eat the rich.
Jesus christ on a horse, shut the fuck up already.
Eat the rich.
The hardware accelerated rendering is horribly broken in 59 leading to half rendered web pages. This is reproducible across several machines/configurations, so it isn't a bad video driver. Turning it off fixes the problem. On one older machine, turning off hardware acceleration actually lowered CPU usage and sped up browsing! It also seems to have fixed the broken printing problem I've been having on one machine (FF only outputs blank pages after multiprocess/e10s is turned on).
Pale Moon is a true fork of Firefox that I've been using for over 3 years now instead of Firefox. It maintains XUL support as one of its main goals, and plenty of Firefox add-on creators have moved over to it. It also maintains the fully customizable UI from earlier version of Firefox.
I'm not sure about the future for Web Extensions in Pale Moon. I know they are working on a move to UXP (Unified XUL Platform) which possibly includes Web Extension support? It's worth a look for sure.