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No, Space Did Not Permanently Alter 7 Percent of Scott Kelly's DNA (theverge.com)
Several stories this week have proclaimed that the DNA of former NASA astronaut Scott Kelly changed during his year living on the International Space Station. The stories say that 7 percent of his genes did not return back to normal when he came back to Earth. It makes it seem as if the space environment permanently altered his genetic code. The problem? That's not true. From a report: The mistake stems from an inaccurate interpretation of NASA's ongoing Twins Study. When Scott went to space in 2015, his identical twin Mark -- also a former NASA astronaut -- stayed on the ground. The idea was that Mark would serve as a control subject -- a nearly identical genetic copy that NASA could use to figure out how the space environment changed Scott's body. Some fascinating results have come out of the experiment. For one thing, Scott's gut bacteria changed significantly while he was in space. And yes, he did experience genetic changes. The protective caps on the ends of his DNA strands -- known as telomeres -- increased while in space. But space didn't permenantly alter 7 percent of his DNA. [...] NASA also confirmed this in a statement to The Verge: "Scott's DNA did not fundamentally change," a NASA spokesperson said. "What researchers did observe are changes in gene expression, which is how your body reacts to your environment. This likely is within the range for humans under stress, such as mountain climbing or SCUBA diving."
Going into space will not make you an X-men.
"For one thing, Scott's gut bacteria changed significantly while he was in space."
I'm sure that had nothing to do with his shitty change in diet.
Was control Mark also forced to eat nothing but space food shit too?
Telomere increase? Maybe I'm just lacking a couple morning coffees here but doesn't that mean the effects of aging would be much less present in space?
I tend to rant.
If so, is it to Charleze Theron? Because then we might start to get worried.
Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
If you read up on telomeres, e.g. here http://learn.genetics.utah.edu... you learn that telomeres are shortened for every DNA copy (which occurs at every cell division). The report states that the telomeres increased in length while in space. Two completely different thoughts crossed my mind:
1) Staying in space may thus decrease the cancer probability (alternatively increase life expectancy)?? Quite counter-intuitive considering the bombardment of ionizing radiation from space.
2) How on earth (pun intended) can the telomeres GROW? What is the mechanism for that? Do they grow in absolute sense, or didn't they just decrease as much compared to the twin?
Either the article is wrong/misinterpreted, or there is a mechanism to be discovered (?) that prolongs the telomers. The latter sounds like an ingredient in the water from the fountain of youth...
Yeah no kidding -- blurb ends with: "This likely is within the range for humans under stress, such as mountain climbing or SCUBA diving."
I.e., he is experiencing the normal effects from our "IIS-in-a-swimming-pool" simulator.
At least when I was a kid, the lies seemed less dangerous...
As the genome is the collection of genes, the transcriptome is the collection of gene transcripts (expressed genes). As most learn in biology 101, the flow of information (generally) goes DNA -> RNA -> Protein (also called the central dogma of molecular biology). The RNA transcriptome is an exceptionally dynamic entity, changing over time and space normally.
Now if we can get more information on which genes changed the most in transcription while in space, that would be really interesting. Hopefully there is a paper coming up on that, or a data dump that we'll see soon so bioinformaticists can mine it.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
. . . .that the Reptoids or the Greys replaced him with a replicant clone! (grin)
(Insert obligatory "I'm not saying it was Aliens. . . but it was Aliens!" photomeme here. . . )
The other problem is the total shit job public education is doing with science. They're not teaching kids to use the scientific method to analyze things. They're teaching kids to pass tests. It's not the fault of the good teachers trying their best to educate kids. The system fucking broken. Schools get less funding if their test scores aren't good, which means teachers have to prepare the kids to do well on standardized tests. Teaching a kid to think analytically doesn't always translate to doing well on tests.
Hmm, DNA changed or ....replaced? Might want to check what he's listening to on the radio lately...
Space Travel Alters your DNA!
brought to you by the same folks as;
Nuclear plants are not dangerous!
and
Flu Shots cause Autism!
on so on and so forth....
Flu Shots cause Autism comes from the left, along with the anti GMO. Nuclear comes from the right. It's not the same folks.
Fake News finally achieves orbit.
Every cell has differences in gene expression from another cell. So it's hard to say what they are talking about from a press release. But one assumes they are seeing large globally different changes of the kind one might call epi-gentic. If that's the case this is non trivial. It means he's living in a new equilibrium state of his gene expression. As an example, female and male alligators have identical genomes but their sex is determined epi-gentically by altering gene expression.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
"National Sea and Scuba-diving Administration".
Doesn't quite roll off the tongue that well.
Nobody's DNA is static, natural background radiation, replication errors and other damage alter your DNA permanently all the time. Your body is trying to correct those errors, but about 1 in 10,000 base pairs are altered every time DNA replicates. When you are a child, your DNA is different from when you are an elderly adult. You accumulate damage throughout your life, but have so many base pairs that the damage is a low percentage. Still, it can lead to cancer and other disease.
Space is worse - radiation levels are magnitudes higher, particularly gamma and X-rays, which greatly accelerate the damage to your DNA from this ionizing radiation. There is no doubt that his DNA is more ionized than if he stayed on earth. This is easy to test, just sequence his DNA against his DNA prior to leaving for space. You don't need a twin study for that.
Now, NASA was looking for changes outside of the normal damage. While protein expression changed, and returned somewhat to normal on earth, his DNA was definitely altered by his time in space, as would any person who leaves the protection of the atmosphere against ionizing radiation.
If it lengthens your telomeres as teh summary implies the correct clickbait is "space travel may cure aging".
Let's look at the headline for a moment:
"No, Space Did Not Permanently Alter 7 Percent of Scott Kelly's DNA"
Now, reworded to reflect the actual thoughts of Ms. Mash:
"No, you dumb fucks, Space Did Not Permanently Alter 7 Percent of Scott Kelly's DNA"
While it is important to clear up this misunderstanding, the manner in which the story was written on Slashdot reflects an ever increasing Snarky attitude rooted in snobbery and condescension.
More and more you see these this type of wording meant to be derisive to the several people who undoubtedly submitted a story about this very thing.
So, Ms. Mash, take your fucking snark and shove it up your cooter. Just be sure you clean it out after all of the dudes you were railed by last night.
Ars had a good article on this.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/03/scott-kellys-medical-monitoring-has-spawned-some-horrific-press-coverage/
It was chemtrails not space.
Science ftw!
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This article confirms what you state, almost exactly. NASA did do the before and after DNA test, and they did expect radiation changes on Earth.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/03/scott-kellys-medical-monitoring-has-spawned-some-horrific-press-coverage/
He would have come back as a damn orangutan. Oh, wait, actually I think dolphin would be 7% DNA difference. Yeah, you think that was maybe false? I heard it and immediately knew it was bullshit.
Shoddy reporting. It was 8%
This was my reaction after reading that startling factoid. Unfortunately, I suspect its a screwup on the writer's part.
There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, General Electric, and Exxon
Humans and chimpanzees chare 98.8% of their DNA. I guess if 7% of your DNA changes, you really would be an alien.
Which one is married to Blabby gifford?