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FTC Probing Facebook For Use of Personal Data: Bloomberg (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Facebook is under investigation by a U.S. privacy watchdog over the use of personal data of 50 million users by a data analytics firm to help elect President Donald Trump. The U.S. Federal Trade Commission is probing whether Facebook violated terms of a 2011 consent decree of its handing of user data that was transferred to Cambridge Analytica without their knowledge, according to a person familiar with the matter. Under the 2011 settlement, Facebook agreed to get user consent for certain changes to privacy settings as part of a settlement of federal charges that it deceived consumers and forced them to share more personal information than they intended. That complaint arose after the company changed some user settings without notifying its customers, according to an FTC statement at the time. If the FTC finds Facebook violated terms of the consent decree, it has the power to fine the company thousands of dollars a day per violation.

78 comments

  1. It's about time. by Train0987 · · Score: 0

    Trump does it again!

    1. Re:It's about time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trump did not create the Privacy Act... but it would be funny if Facebook had to identify and then follow the law on all bits of PII in their system...

      Double that for HIPAA, COPA, and other bits of data some
      (non /.) people inevitably have posted...

    2. Re:It's about time. by Train0987 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It would be nice to have Zuckerburg asked under oath about who he's willing to sell everyone's data to. Also which politicians he's given it to for free.

    3. Re:It's about time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is amazing how many idiots can't distinguish between 'election interference' and "helping elect Trump". Including the editors on this site.

    4. Re:It's about time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's already public knowledge that the same information was shared with the Obama reelection campaign but no one complained at the time because, well, you know...

    5. Re:It's about time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because, well, you know...

      Actually, I don't know. Could you please explain?

    6. Re:It's about time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Trump does it again!

      Thanks, Obama!

      Literally - Obama did just that, and he did worse - strip mining private data from cable TV boxes.

      Data You Can Believe In
      The Obama Campaign’s Digital Masterminds Cash In

      ...

      But Gershkoff had come upon a cache of data that all the strategists would come to appreciate. She had contracted with a relatively new firm called Rentrak that was competing with Nielsen and was buying up real-time, raw viewing data directly from cable and satellite companies that had nearly 20 million set-top boxes in eight million homes. When Gershkoff told Grisolano, he was thrilled. Rentrak’s huge new trove of data, he surmised, could help him find out with relative certainty what shows were being delivered to the homes of the roughly 15 million persuadable voters Wagner’s department had identified.

      ...

      But hey, it was all OK four years ago because Obama did it.

    7. Re:It's about time. by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      Bias.

    8. Re:It's about time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your entire argument is that because someone did something 4 years ago and didn't get caught we should let off the guy that caught doing the same thing 4 years later?

      You had your chance 4 years ago to point out how wrong it was....don't get mad at people doing now what you failed to do then.

    9. Re:It's about time. by hambone142 · · Score: 1

      If the service is free, YOU are the product.

    10. Re:It's about time. by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      What law was broken again? And Cambridge Analytica has being doing this for sometime. It's only when Trump is mentioned that people's lizard brain gets excited.

    11. Re:It's about time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your entire argument is that because someone did something 4 years ago and didn't get caught we should let off the guy that caught doing the same thing 4 years later?

      You had your chance 4 years ago to point out how wrong it was....don't get mad at people doing now what you failed to do then.

      Did you entirely miss the fact that the NY Times wrote an entire article praising how Obama abused user privacy not only on Facebook - with Facebook' complicity no less - bu also on cable TV boxes?

      But now that Trump may have done less than that, it's all quelle horreur!!!! from the "progressive" pearl-clutching brigade? The same hypocritical assholes who were so happy Obama used such tactics to win?

      You know, like you?

    12. Re:It's about time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      List which governments he has sold American’s data to. That will wake most people up. Fuck Facebook

  2. Enough said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/crisis-manager-why-is-trump-use-of-social-data-bad-and-obama-good.html

    1. Re:Enough said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/19/crisis-manager-why-is-trump-use-of-social-data-bad-and-obama-good.html

      "Why is it innovative when the Obama campaign did it and sleazy when the Trump campaign did it?"
      Because everything Trump does is sleazy.
      Ask that business "genius" how well his airline, and steaks, and "Trump University" are doing, BTW....

  3. 'Thousands of dollars per day.' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even a high-ball guess of 3000 dollars per day since November 29 2011 still lands the fine at less than 7 million dollars.
    This isn't really that huge of a fine for a company this large.

    1. Re:'Thousands of dollars per day.' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "If the FTC finds Facebook violated terms of the consent decree, it has the power to fine the company thousands of dollars a day per violation."

      Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it? Let me re-quote the relevant part:

      "per violation.".

      If each person being breached is a violation, you're looking at 50 million times 7 million. That's a BIG number.

    2. Re:'Thousands of dollars per day.' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      $3000 // your "high-ball" guess
      x
      (
                      (2 + 31) // 2011, final days of nov, all of dec
                      +
                      366 // 2012, leap year
                      +
                      365 // 2013
                      +
                      365 // 2014
                      +
                      365 // 2015
                      +
                      366 // 2016, leap year
                      +
                      365 // 2017
                      +
                      (31 + 28 + 20) // 2018, all of jan and feb, and so far into march
      )
      x
      50,000,000 people's privacy violated

      Drum roll...

      3.5×10^14 or 350 trillion. Fuckerberg getting raped that hard would be glorious.

  4. U.S. privacy watchdog by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 1

    What? The U.S. have a privacy watchdog? Well, this is certainly news to me.

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    1. Re:U.S. privacy watchdog by alvinrod · · Score: 1, Insightful

      They watch it constantly eroding.

    2. Re:U.S. privacy watchdog by Hognoxious · · Score: 3

      Yes. Their function is to watch out in case somebody gets some.

      By somebody I mean the plebs, of course.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  5. cutting off the noseberg to spite the faceberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cambridge Analytica used facebook EXACTLY AS IT WAS INTENDED.

    1. Re:cutting off the noseberg to spite the faceberg by greenwow · · Score: 1

      No, they did not. They used the data to harm us since Zuck supports Trump. Zuck now owns everything bad Trump has and will do as president. Before, Facebook used their data to help the people by helping make sure McCain never became our ruler. That is different.

    2. Re:cutting off the noseberg to spite the faceberg by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 1

      That's sarcasm right....

  6. Not just the FTC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    UK Parliament would like a word with Zuckerberg too. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-4...

  7. Here you go: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Super easy... follow the link, accept and don't log back in for two weeks.

    https://www.facebook.com/help/delete_account

  8. Double standard by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Amazing how Obama can target voters using facebook data and it's lauded as smart and effective.

    Trump targets voters and facebook doesn't care before the election(*), but now months later it's an obscene violation of peoples' privacy.

    Were any laws broken? If it's illegal to hire non-citizens to do campaign research, how does the Hillary campaign paying Christopher Steele get a pass?

    Is this just a company whinging about a violation of their TOS, after the fact, while ignoring hundreds of other companies who do the same thing?

    What exactly is the alleged infraction here?

    (*) Facebook was informed of the "breach" many months before the election, and literally didn't care.

    1. Re:Double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I think an ad saying "Vote for Obama" is different from one that says "Black Lives Matter is Coming to Rape your Daughters."

      That's why this is getting more attention. They used the data to play on people's fears, and it looks like someone in the chain was working with Putin.

    2. Re:Double standard by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      That kind of ridiculous hyperbole is how you got Trump.

    3. Re:Double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think an ad saying "Vote for Obama" is different from one that says "Black Lives Matter is Coming to Rape your Daughters."

      That's why this is getting more attention. They used the data to play on people's fears, and it looks like someone in the chain was working with Putin.

      Playing on people's fears? You mean like this?

      Repealing the Affordable Care Act will kill more than 43,000 people annually

      The irony of your post in a thread titled "Double standard" is certainly lost on you...

    4. Re:Double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But Obama did it to inform voters. Zuck did it because he wanted to make Trump our ruler so he had someone in charger that owed him. Zuck did it for the wrong reasons.

    5. Re:Double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steele was a spy for a foreign government, but he was used to inform voters. Zuck supported Trump by uninforming voters. What Hillary id helped the people. What Zuck did has destroyed our lives.

    6. Re:Double standard by Train0987 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      We get it. Your side is morally and intellectually superior (virtuous) so doing these things is OK. In other words, rules are only weapons to be used against those you disagree with.

    7. Re: Double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look everyone it's Train0987, the trump loving, republicans do no wrong, fuck the liberals, slashdot troll.

      Every time you post, I'm replying with this.

      Get your head out of your ass and stop playing sides you bafoon. Both sides are actively eroding away our freedoms. And all you have to say is, "but the liberals"

      Grow the fuck up.

    8. Re: Double standard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL he says grow up. Thats rich.

  9. FTC by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

    Why should the FTC get money if Facebook violated someone's privacy rights? Should the money go to the victims?

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    1. Re:FTC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should the FTC get money if Facebook violated someone's privacy rights? Should the money go to the victims?

      How adorbs! You actually expect a government not to use fines from violations and crimes to not fund itself for its own purposes? Go to your local traffic court and watch sometime - it's not about safely making traffic flow, it's all about turning people upside down, shaking, and collecting all the money that falls out.

    2. Re:FTC by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Why should the FTC get money if Facebook violated someone's privacy rights? Shouldn't the money go to the victims?

      How adorbs! You actually expect a government not to use fines from violations and crimes to not fund itself for its own purposes? Go to your local traffic court and watch sometime - it's not about safely making traffic flow, it's all about turning people upside down, shaking, and collecting all the money that falls out.

      It's a normative question, not a positive one. I know how the government operates.

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      Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
  10. Even IF they notified customers.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many times do we get notifications of changes to EULAs and Terms and Conditions and sent to a site that has 40+ pages of legalese and are expected to read that every time they change?

    We should have legislation that when a company makes a change, that one thing is pulled out, phrased in plain english and if the user doesn't explicitly click "agree" or "yes" to it, it is not binding.

    Any company that dones't like it then they shouldn't be in business.

    I let PayPal and eBay close my accounts because I thought their EULA and Terms were horseshit and unethical. Fuck'em.

    And as we're seeing, facebook is a corrupt and unethical company. No one is going to convince me that they didn't know about all this. And I would even bet they SOLD the feature to those people - meaning, they were in on it for the revenues.

  11. Flashback to the Obama 2012 campaign by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's an article from NYT discussing Obama's use of facebook data during his 2012 campaign.

    The campaign’s exhaustive use of Facebook triggered the site’s internal safeguards. “It was more like we blew through an alarm that their engineers hadn’t planned for or knew about,” said St. Clair, who had been working at a small firm in Chicago and joined the campaign at the suggestion of a friend. “They’d sigh and say, ‘You can do this as long as you stop doing it on Nov. 7.’ ”

    Also, this quote from [Obama’s former director for media analytics] Carol Davidsen:

    [Facebook] came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side.

    1. Re:Flashback to the Obama 2012 campaign by Patent+Lover · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You left out this part in the NY Times article: "Facebook officials say warning bells go off when the site sees large amounts of unusual activity, but in each case the company was satisfied the campaign was not violating its privacy and data standards."

    2. Re:Flashback to the Obama 2012 campaign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually they sucked out the entire social graph, as mentioned in other articles about the same subject, and that was against the ToS but Facebook gave them a pass because they were on the same side. There's more than just the NYT article and others made that point a bit clearer.

      If it wasn't against the ToS, why did it set off "warning bells"?

    3. Re:Flashback to the Obama 2012 campaign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You left out this part in the NY Times article: "Facebook officials say warning bells go off when the site sees large amounts of unusual activity, but in each case the company was satisfied the campaign was not violating its privacy and data standards."

      And YOU skipped this, which comes right before your selective quote:

      The campaign’s exhaustive use of Facebook triggered the site’s internal safeguards. “It was more like we blew through an alarm that their engineers hadn’t planned for or knew about,” said St. Clair, who had been working at a small firm in Chicago and joined the campaign at the suggestion of a friend. “They’d sigh and say, ‘You can do this as long as you stop doing it on Nov. 7.’

      If it was all OK, why the hell would Facebook want them to stop on Nov 7?

      Your post is a perfect example of how "fake news" really works - just report the facts that support your desired narrative while pretending facts that prove you wrong simply don't exist.

  12. http://www.al-awa2el.com/%D8%AA%D9%86%D8%B8%D9%8A% by AhmedKamel · · Score: 0
  13. Russian Propaganda Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Interesting how closely your false equivalence matches the Russian government's official propaganda message.

    Almost like you are a Russian stooge

    Back in America, Facebook and the Trump / Russia crime family are facing investigation crimes against the people of this country, and a foreign sponsored information war which is protected by a traitor and foreign agent.

    Donald Trumpski belongs in prison, and you should stop spreading Russia's misinformation and supporting their propaganda campaign.

    1. Re:Russian Propaganda Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting that you find it a false equivalence, when it's exactly the same thing.

      That would make you the stooge or the patsy here.

    2. Re:Russian Propaganda Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you must be against the Clintons selling Uranium to Russia, yes?
      Not to mention giving nuclear secrets to China, North Korea, and whoever else.

  14. We Need A Privacy Bill Of Rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Congress needs to pass legislation that sets out the privacy rights of US citizens and regulates what information companies can collect about US citizens, as well as what they can do with that information. Unless you the only sites you go to are Slashdot and Facebook, there's no way any reasonable person can read every single privacy policy of every site they visit, (by which time the site has already started collecting data about them) keep track of changes to those privacy policies, and remember which site had what provisions in their privacy policy. Such legislation would also provide a means to actually hold companies accountable if they violate their privacy policies.

  15. So, did they or didn't they? by Orne · · Score: 4, Informative

    Two days later, CBS is now reporting that the Trump Campaign only used the CA data for a targeted online advertising and a single TV ad buy during the primaries, because they were playing the CA data off of the RNC, in case the RNC pulled a "resistance" and didn't want to share with the Trump campaign. They ended up not using the CA data for the general election because they didn't trust it coming from Facebook.

    1. Re:So, did they or didn't they? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh please. Zuck is a Trump supporter so you just know he did everything dishonest he could to make Trump our ruler. Zuck hates people that aren't wealthy or didn't graduate from a top school. A friend that met him said Zuck wouldn't even be in the same room as him since he graduated from Univ of Washington. Zuck made the guy leave, go to another office, then call him on a speaker phone rather than consent to be in the same room. Zuck is like Trump in that he only likes successful people and wants the rest of us to die.

    2. Re:So, did they or didn't they? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlikely. Didn't read the Podesta emails talking about how much they were working with Hillary did you?

      Also, seems Trump was smart enough not to get slammed like Bernie was when he got locked out of the DNC data at a critical time after doing too well.

    3. Re:So, did they or didn't they? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the Podesta emails also called Trump the pied-piper candidate that he claimed they tried to help since they thought he would be the easiest candidate to beat. I wouldn't put any stock in what he put in writing. He may have led Hillary's campaign, but he was a figurehead.

  16. Facebook deserves to be hit **very** hard by DeplorableCodeMonkey · · Score: 1

    According to a former high level staffer on the Obama campaign, they said they knew Obama's campaign was mass harvesting the social graph and let them do it despite it being against Facebook's rules.

    Facebook has been interfering with elections on a level that is utterly unconscionable and must be made an example of.

    1. Re:Facebook deserves to be hit **very** hard by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 1

      Providing data is "interfering"? I'm amazed by how many people infantalize the US voter and pretend they were swayed by some junk posted on Facebook. People are so hysterical over nothing. If a meaningful number of US voters are swayed by junk they see on Facebook, then we deserve whatever happens to us.

    2. Re:Facebook deserves to be hit **very** hard by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

      Providing data is "interfering"?

      Yes of course when Trump does it but not when Obama (or Hillary, for that matter) does it. Progressives get a pass because they're the 'good guys' (only in their own minds).

      Progressives are our equivalent of the Sith, and like the Sith, they operate on absolutes. They see themselves as ineffably good, righteous, and always 'the smartest people in the room' so naturally anyone who disagrees is automatically 'stupid' and 'evil', therefor 'the ends justify the means' when fighting 'Pure Evil(TM)'.

      Strat

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    3. Re:Facebook deserves to be hit **very** hard by epine · · Score: 1

      Providing data is "interfering"? I'm amazed by how many people infantalize the US voter and pretend they were swayed by some junk posted on Facebook.

      The iron rule of advertising: people buy advertising because it works, despite the vast majority of advertising effectively being junk.

      The problem here is that junk works, and we got ourselves a president to prove it (a divisive populist who is damaging America's standing and competitiveness in the world with every second tweet, whereas Hilary would have been largely an annoying internal problem, with 20% as much brazen in-your-face factor).

      You can pry "infantilism" out of my cold, disgusted hands when advertising ceases to work.

      Why Democrats Should Worry About Conor Lamb's Victory — 14 March 2018

      What was not to love about Trump Republicans losing in a district that's often referred to as "Northern West Virginia"? Especially after the GOP poured more than $10 million into trying to save the seat. Making the schadenfreude even more delicious, Trump threw himself into the campaign full-bore in its final stages.

      Last week, he announced a steep tariff on steel and aluminum — the one issue, more than any other, that might sway this labor-heavy district into the GOP column. "Do you think it could possibly have all been for western Pennsylvania?" Gail Collins asked rhetorically in The New York Times.

      Fortunately, advertising only works up to a point. It's less effective at rehabilitating a known commodity gone sour (goodbye, Hilary, and good riddance). But still, it was effective enough to land America into the present, raging immune-response soup pot.

      America's electorate is not wall-to-wall infantile: if things get bad enough, they can be roused—briefly—from their drooling stupor.

    4. Re:Facebook deserves to be hit **very** hard by epine · · Score: 1

      Interesting. My notes contain Hilary Putnam, Hilary Hahn, Hilary Mantel, and Hilary Swank but only one Hillary. My brain knows better, but my fingers often operate on the straw-poll system.

  17. An appropriate punishment... by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 1

    ...would be to delete Facebook's databases and make them start all over again from 0. It'd help break up their monopoly too.

    Also, install all Facebook's apps on Zuckerberg's phone that he has to keep on 24/7 and with him at all times and publish all the data they collect as a public live feed.

    And publish a live feed of all purchases of Facebook's users' data in detail; who they are and who they represent (e.g. Cambridge Analytica representing the Trump campaign), what data and services they purchased (e.g. all your data), and what they're using it for (e.g. govts. to crack down on political dissent or to manipulate popular political sentiments).

    That should provide enough information for would be Facebook users to pour over so that they can give their informed consent.

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  18. Facebook has been selling its its data for years. by BrookHarty · · Score: 1

    They sold users info to the DNC for Obama in 2012, They sold to DNC for Hillary in 2016, They been having been selling access for years, this is not new.
    Both the GOP and DNC now use it as a tool for elections. Governments are using it for spying at all levels. Countries are using it to oppress political opposition. Religious regimes are using it to track down posters to punish for blasphemy. Intel agencies and Police are using it thousands of times a day to spy on people.

    Do you not follow WikiLeaks or Snowden? Come on, people. They been talking about this for YEARS...

    Now because an agency Trumps campaign used goes viral on MSM, it's NOW an issue?! ITS BEEN AN ISSUE!

    It's the old, "Don't care, if it doesn't happen to me" mentality.

  19. Microsoft, Roomba, Samsung all disturbing privacy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    policies that are horrible.

    Why are we not developing consumer privacy laws to stop data-perv style forced data collection? User choice is going away. Heck, even GUIs are becoming amazingly stupid and un-usable.

  20. Facebook vs Equifax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I donâ(TM)t get all the uproar over FB. Last year, personal data on all of us was exposed by Equifax, and Congress didnâ(TM)t do shit. But FB shared data that was volunteered by its users, and Congress wants answers? Government is seriously fucked up.

    1. Re:Facebook vs Equifax by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's facebook mania. People think die-hard Hillary voters were swayed to her complete opposite by "muh facebook fake news by teh Russians!!!". Which is absurd, but here we are. We are in a hyper-partisan era where very few people are "in between", and the difference between left and right is massive, yet there's this laughable narrative that somehow the Russians spent a few million (paltry sums) on some fake news/memes and swayed the election. To coin a phrase of dummies everywhere, "I can't even".

  21. Rant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am so tired of hearing about Facebook, Russians, Meddling, all that nonsense. It's complete partisan bullshit. Nobody gives a fuck about Facebook, and nobody changed their vote based on some Facebook bullshit. It's all made up gibberish to give people something to be interested in in the media.

    I don't give a shit if the Russians did anything on twitter or facebook. Nobody was like "gee, I was going to vote for Hillary but some random meme popped up and now I'm voting for her exact fucking polar opposite Donald Trump". Anyone who sells you that narrative is a fucking liar. It's beyond risible.

    Facebook and Twitter are self propagating non-issues. If you don't like them, don't fucking use them. And now we have to hear this idiotic bleating about people's "private data" being "stolen". Bull fucking shit. You went online and posted your entire life for the world to see and now you're concerned about your privacy?

    I feel like I'm taking god damn crazy pills reading this Facebook/Twitter bullshit day in day out. WHO FUCKING CARES. Stop using them if you don't like them. I for one am sick of seeing pseudo-news sites pick up nobodies on Twitter and making their nonsense opinions seem important to anyone.

    1. Re:Rant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People, here we have a great example of an ignorant twit.

      Behold the sound of one hand clapping - while the other is frapping.

    2. Re:Rant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, millenial, sure. You're right, twitter and Facebook are, like, totally super important AF. I mean I can't even, right?

      PS: I was just mocking you, only idiots talk like that.

  22. Nothing new here by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

    As I understand it, users agreed to the data access when they installed the 'app' to take the personality quiz. All that data was then improperly given to CA. Except for the part about the original user giving the data to a third party, this is what Facebook does for a living. Not at all unusual. And they have a team who explicitly sells the platform to political campaigns. So nothing new here other than a desire to fuss over everything having to do with Trump.

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    1. Re:Nothing new here by AceViper · · Score: 1

      Data for all the friends of the 270,000 users was also given to the developer, as was allowed by Facebook. This turned 270,000 into 50,000,000.

  23. A government agency doing their job? Shocking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A government agency doing its job. Ain't it a wonder.
    The Republicans are going to be in a state of shock, with government actually doing something but.....

    We will see if anything happens after this "investigation" and all its "FAKE NEWS" is spread about for a while. In a week or two nothing will have happened and we will be back in our echo chambers.

  24. Why now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not like any other major company and government isn't doing this already. They should try looking into what Google is already doing. People are pissed off at what the Government does. Maybe people would be better off just not posing anything online.. :D

  25. Very low bar by Tony+Isaac · · Score: 1

    FTC is only investigating whether Facebook violated its terms of service. Have you ever read that document? It's pages and pages of legalese that basically says Facebook can do whatever they want with your data. Ensuring that they complied with their TOS is a really, really low bar.

  26. OH, HOW STUPID YOU ARE... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    First of all, Obama's campaign used Facebook data LEGALLY and with EXPLICIT APPROVAL of Facebook users.
    And they were so nice, they asked for it twice.

    From TFA which you haven't read, cause you can only just copy/paste what other people feed you, sad creature that you are:

    They started with a list that grew to a million people who had signed into the campaign Web site through Facebook.
    When people opted to do so, they were met with a prompt asking to grant the campaign permission to scan their Facebook friends lists, their photos and other personal information.
    In another prompt, the campaign asked for access to the usersâ(TM) Facebook news feeds, which 25 percent declined, St. Clair said.

    Once permission was granted, the campaign had access to millions of names and faces they could match against their lists of persuadable voters, potential donors, unregistered voters and so on.
    "It would take us 5 to 10 seconds to get a friends list and match it against the voter list," St. Clair said. They found matches about 50 percent of the time, he said.

    I.e. Obama campaign explicitly asked for permission, openly stating what the data will be used for - then took only names and photos and matched that data to existing voter lists.

    But the campaignâ(TM)s ultimate goal was to deputize the closest Obama-supporting friends of voters who were wavering in their affections for the president.

    Did you get that numbnuts?
    They were looking for known Obama voters who may have for any reason decided not to vote in 2012.
    It was a RE-ELECTION campaign! Get it?! They were digging through data the voters already gave them back in 2008!
    They were digging through public records looking for who's missing this time around!

    Let's compare that to Cambridge Analytica scum...

    When the Psychometrics Centre declined to work with the firm, Mr. Wylie found someone who would: Dr. Kogan, who was then a psychology professor at the university and knew of the techniques.
    Dr. Kogan built his own app and in June 2014 began harvesting data for Cambridge Analytica.
    The business covered the costs â" more than $800,000 â" and allowed him to keep a copy for his own research, according to company emails and financial records.

    All he divulged to Facebook, and to users in fine print, was that he was collecting information for academic purposes, the social network said. It did not verify his claim.
    Dr. Kogan declined to provide details of what happened, citing nondisclosure agreements with Facebook and Cambridge Analytica, though he maintained that his program was âoea very standard vanilla Facebook app.â

    He ultimately provided over 50 million raw profiles to the firm, Mr. Wylie said, a number confirmed by a company email and a former colleague.
    Of those, roughly 30 million â" a number previously reported by The Intercept â" contained enough information, including places of residence, that the company could match users to other records and build psychographic profiles.
    Only about 270,000 users â" those who participated in the survey â" had consented to having their data harvested.

    I.e. Data was gathered without permission.
    Data was gathered under false pretenses.
    Data was far more extensive than just names and photos.
    There was no prior relationship between the people whose data was mined and built into psychographic profiles - and the campaign.
    These weren't old Trump voters - Cambridge Analytica was pushing scare ads to DISSUADE voters from voting.
    I.e. VOTER SUPPRESSION!

    Were any laws broken? If it's illegal to hire non-citizens to do campaign research, how does the Hillary campaign paying Christopher Steele get a pass?

    Here, let the lawyer advising Cambridge Anal

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