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Despite Having Unprecedented Access To Technology, Generation Z Is Already Bored (thedailybeast.com)

Taylor Lorenz, writing for The Daily Beast: There is a notion among older people that teens, with their smartphones and unlimited internet access, never experience boredom. CNN and other media outlets have repeatedly declared that smartphones have killed boredom as we know it. But today's teens are still bored, often incredibly so. They're just more likely to experience a new type of boredom: phone bored.

As members of what has been dubbed "Generation Z," a cohort that spans those born roughly between the years 1998 and 2010, today's teens and tweens have had unparalleled access to technology. Many have had smartphones since elementary, if not middle school. They've grown up with high-speed internet, laptops, and social media.

It's tempting to think that these devices, with their endless ability to stimulate, offer salvation from the type of mind-numbing boredom that is so core to the teen experience. But humans adapt to the conditions that surround them, and technical advances are no different. What seemed novel to one generation feels passe to the next. To many teens, smartphones and the internet have already lost their appeal.

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  1. Go outside! by amazingxkcd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn kids, get back on my lawn so I can kick you off

    1. Re:Go outside! by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're partially there.

      As parents, one thing you can do to alleviate boredom is to get your kids outside to play when they're younger. To give them a part of keeping up the household (chores specifically), but also include them in the boring crap like teaching them like taxes and to keep a household budget (boring, but IMHO among necessary skills they'll need), to make them watch the news with you and... talk to them about it all along the way. To answer questions. To pay attention to them when they talk, to give advice when asked, and to guide them.

      Most importantly, to get your kids off the damn phone/tablet/laptop/desktop and to help prepare them for the real world. This means that as parents, you yourself need to get off the damn phone/tablet/laptop/desktop, and interact with them.

      TL;DR - busy kids aren't bored.

      (...before my own kids grew up and left home, they regularly did their share of chores, watched me do the taxes, and asked a ton of questions along the way, helped in the garden, helped with building projects around the property, and similar. Even if you live in the city, there's a ton of activity that can be done that ultimately gives them a *huge* boost over their peers when they finally hit the Real World.)

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    2. Re:Go outside! by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Who modded that down, ...

      Though your ID would seem to indicate otherwise, you must be new here. :-)
      Things get modded down because "reasons". :-(

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    3. Re:Go outside! by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This, and I say this as a nerd. Alternatively, get them a real computer (one from the 90's) that they have to routinely work to fix, CAN fix (e.g. not a tablet or anything Apple-related, or even a laptop) and can experience the joys of learning how to deal with electricity the first time. The biggest issue with modern hardware is that if you Apple or Android tablet/phone/other-device fails you can't repair it, even if it doesn't fail you should be able to take it apart and see the consequences of unplugging different wires, or failing to shut it off before opening the case and getting a shock. That's valuable learning material, far more valuable than YEARS of "code.org" nonsense is a single weekend so bored out of your mind you take your computer apart to start poking at it and get a feel for how it works in the process.

  2. Of course they're bored by eggstasy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mobile games are shit. Why would I ever be subject to a timer and spend years getting anywhere in a game? Unless you're a millionaire, modern mobile games are very often unnecessarily protracted grinds.

    1. Re:Of course they're bored by chispito · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mobile games are shit. Why would I ever be subject to a timer and spend years getting anywhere in a game? Unless you're a millionaire, modern mobile games are very often unnecessarily protracted grinds.

      I think the point of the article is that teens will always be bored. It's a time in your life when you start to desire experiences that you aren't mature enough to have had. You want independence, but you can't take care of yourself. You want relationship, but you often don't know how to put others first. You want fulfillment, but you can't really see much of the big picture.

      Really, it's connection to others that teens need, and the majority of that comes through a loving family. Social media (and games, I guess) is just a crappy imitation of the real thing.

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    2. Re:Of course they're bored by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Instill a purpose in your kids, and they won't be bored, ever. There is always something one can do if there is a purpose. Even if you can't do everything you want, there are things you can do.

      We've this generation of kids that their purpose is playing video games.

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    3. Re:Of course they're bored by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I'm seeing this from the post:

      ...offer salvation from the type of mind-numbing boredom that is so core to the teen experience.

      Mind numbing boredom is now normal for teen years???

      WTF did this happen?

      Geez, I know everyone has some down time, but when I was a teen, I was anything but bored most of the time.

      In the summer, we had the neighborhood pool and I ran around with the kids in my neighborood. We had skateboards, we built ramps to skateboard up and do tricks....we were all over the neighborhoods during the days. When I was 16yrs, I also had a job at a medium, upper end restaurant, started washing dishes and made my way up to head bus boy, I usually worked one weeknight, and Fri and Sat nights, making good money for a HS kid. Saved that to buy a car.

      So, working...chasing girls, sneaking out for beer bashes, parties, etc....and we didn't have a fucking cell phone in existence.

      Good grief, the only excuse one has to be bored,is ones own self, theres a shit ton of things to do out there, hell even more opportunities today in some ways.

      Again, I know this isn't going on 24/7, but geez, I would never have described any portion of my life to date as "mind numbingly boring".

      There's always something to get into and do.

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    4. Re:Of course they're bored by fermion · · Score: 2
      I don't find them any less boring that pong. I don't see that people are any more or less bored than ever. The fact is, and will always be, that boring people are boring. There is nothing we can do about that. For a creative exciting, and inquisitive person a walk through the city is as exciting as a video game as a the exploration of the woods. An exciting person is going to have fun writing code, writing prose, or taking apart their kitchen sink for the first time.

      A boring person is going to be bored no matter what they do, even if they are playing the latest video game. They will get bored, which is why video game companies make so much money. They cater to boring people.

      Not that only boring people play video games, any more than they watch videos or read books. The difference is that boring people do this for their excitement, where exciting people do it for entertainment or to turn off their brains for a while.

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    5. Re:Of course they're bored by jareth-0205 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think boredom in itself is a bad thing, it's part of life, part of finding out your own thoughts and who you are. To have the space to think, imagine, and decide what you're going to do to relieve the boredom...

      A constantly occupied mind has no time to actually ponder.

    6. Re: Of course they're bored by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Funny

      It has all to do with having hobbies that aren't passive consummation.

      Honestly, that's my favourite type of consummation. Let her do all the hard work.

    7. Re:Of course they're bored by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I would suggest that "pondering" is not boredom, and is a sign of an active mind. I can be alone walking in a forest, and never bored.

      IMHO Boredom is an untrained mind.

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    8. Re:Of course they're bored by jbengt · · Score: 2

      Mind numbing boredom is now normal for teen years???

      If you've ever talked to a teen in any generation, you should know that a whiny "I'm Bored" is one of the most common complaints known to humankind.

  3. english idiom by nedlohs · · Score: 2

    "since elementary, if not middle school" isn't the typical English idiom supposed to be "X, if not Y" supposed to have Y as the more "extreme" case?

    "good, if not great", "injured, if not dead", etc?

  4. Choice paralysis, not boredom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Infinite options, infinite "boredom."

  5. They're furniture by mccalli · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I got into computing in the early 80s - the first home computing boom. They were new and fresh and exciting - I learned what I could about them, read obsessively in magazines about every home micro available, learned to code (badly in BASIC...) - it was all new.

    Now? Computers and smartphones are appliances - they're not fun, they're not novel - they're meant to just sit there doing their job. And this is natural, it's not current generation's 'fault' that they're not excited by this tech. I wasn't excited by the fact I didn't need to double declutch to learn to drive, it was just how things were and are.

    I'd be interested to know what is considered fresh and exciting in the same way. Seems that the use of these platforms is big, and the creation of things with them. But interest in the tech itself is less common, and I'm not surprised by this at all.

    1. Re:They're furniture by jareth-0205 · · Score: 2

      I think one of the issues is that too much complexity isn't really solvable by young minds - I grew up with a Spectrum and was alright with it, the language was BASIC, and it was thrown in your face whenever you switched the thing on. There was loads of help to be had, every Spectrum the same. When I graduated to a PC in my early teens I stopped programming, basically until I went to university and was taught "properly". There was too much complexity, the route wasn't clear and any help you might get was fragmented and hard to come by.

      Things are much the same now - there are so many things that computers can do, it's hard to actually see them as new or interesting and they are completely un-understandable for a developing mind.

    2. Re:They're furniture by Dragonslicer · · Score: 2

      You left out Rock and Roll.

  6. Why would it save off bordom? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Greatest Generation had Radio
    Baby boomers had TV to entertain themselves as teenagers.
    Gen X had Video Games.
    Millennials had the internet
    Gen Z has cell phones.

    Entertainment of any type gets boring. Because we are craving stimulation often from actually working on something, that pushes us further and expands us more. But many institutions such as jobs and school, have rules and regulation that often don't put people on the pace that they need to be at. Either too slow and gets board, or too fast which they get frustrated.

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    1. Re:Why would it save off bordom? by Sumus+Semper+Una · · Score: 2

      To expand on your "entertainment gets boring" idea, every single medium you listed has inherent limits. And each one developed its own tropes.

      The number of radio stations could be unlimited... But the genres of music or voice programs you'll find is very finite.
      The number of TV channels could be unlimited... But the genres of television shows and movies is very finite.
      The number of video games could be unlimited... But the genres of games and methods of interacting with the system is finite.
      The number of web pages could be unlimited... But the categories of content for those pages is finite.
      Mobile phones are just a twist on web pages, video games, and TV channels rolled into a new medium for delivery to the consumer.

      Entertainment will always be limited. It doesn't matter if we give it a new medium. You're still going to eventually get bored because you've seen everything novel the medium has to offer. New genres and new media are always being created, but that process is often slower than the rate that you will exhaust experiencing the existing genres and media you are interested in.

  7. What a dilemma by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too 'smart' to play mindless mobile games or scroll through social media all day, yet too dumb to do something useful with thier smartphones. There are countless tutorials. Learn a music instrument, lern how to paint, learn a new language or whatever you like. The access to that kind of information is easier than ever.

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  8. The Earth by Zorro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is a whole planet to explore.

    Put down the phone and look at the actual planet they are on.

    If THAT bores you look up at night at the Universe.

    1. Re:The Earth by godrik · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is a whole planet to explore.

      Put down the phone and look at the actual planet they are on.

      If THAT bores you look up at night at the Universe.

      Cool! Is there an app for that ?

    2. Re:The Earth by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just stay the fuck off my lawn!

      You can't tell me where to zoom in on google maps!

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  9. Different kind of boredom. by Volanin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have an 18 year old brother. Looking at him and his friends connected all the time, it's not that they're never bored, but instead what I see is a different kind of boredom, that's borderline anxious. They are bored, but constantly agitated to find a new, exciting thing to connect. People older than me, like my grandfather, display a more peaceful kind of boredom. It might be just an age thing, guess I'll discover this in a few years.

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  10. And do what exactly? by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    Lots of these kids live in suburbs out in the middle of nowhere so their parents could afford a decent house. There's nothing for miles and no public transportation. Often no bike path either. I guess they could go for a leisurely stroll.

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    1. Re:And do what exactly? by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're not properly bubblewrapping the children. Outside is dirty, messy and dangerous. Something Bad Might Happen!!!!! (tm)

      We MUST give up our liberties for security!

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    2. Re:And do what exactly? by Dread_ed · · Score: 3, Informative

      They have all of the freedom, and free time...but no one to do it with, and no one to show them the way.

      Their parents are all working their asses off to stay afloat.

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    3. Re:And do what exactly? by tylersoze · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This exactly. I'm always amused by the sci-fi trope of an immortal being eventually getting tired of life, or people needing jobs, no matter how pointless, to "give them purpose". There is so much to see, do and learn to last countless lifetimes. Anyone that would get bored of life has no intellectual curiosity.

    4. Re:And do what exactly? by dbrueck · · Score: 2

      Not really, that's just how it's depicted on TV. In many (most?) real world suburbs, there's all sorts of places to ride your bike as well as proximity to parks and the like.

    5. Re:And do what exactly? by jareth-0205 · · Score: 2

      I think you forget what it's actually like. There has been no point in my life unpleasant and stressful as when I was a teenager - the rife and constant violence at school, the unending mental bullying, the lack of confidence in own abilities, the lack of knowledge of own abilities, the lack of understanding of the world, the lack of control of what happens...

      Remember what it was like, *really* remember rather than lauding it about some imagined blue remembered hills.

    6. Re:And do what exactly? by dbrueck · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's true! And even if money were no issue, I still don't think I'd ever choose to live in Silicon Valley or someplace similar. I get that some people love living like that, but it's not for everyone.

      Anytime a discussion comes up suggesting how awful the suburbs are (or similarly, about how much it must suck to live in a "flyover" state), I have this internal struggle of "wow that's totally at odds with my experience" vs "shhh... it's in your own best interest to let 'em keep thinking that". :)

    7. Re:And do what exactly? by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 2

      This is where it comes to sacrifices you make when you live somewhere like Silicon Valley, or most major tech hubs.

      Is this a particularly US thing, I wonder? The city near me is Cambridge, UK, and it's one of the most cycle-friendly cities in the country, while also being a major tech hub. The Really Big City near me is London, and again there are a lot of cyclists and a lot of tech.

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    8. Re:And do what exactly? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

      Define "decent house." Average house size till the 70s was 1000 square feet, and this was with bigger families. If they can afford a 2500 at McMansion in BFE, they can afford a smaller house closer in.

    9. Re:And do what exactly? by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

      Yes. Much of the US was developed without a care to the needs of cyclists or pedestrians, only for people in big , heavy, glass and steel cages on wheels.

    10. Re: And do what exactly? by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Something is wrong with you if you are drenched in sweat in a 1.5 mile trip.

      Or you live in Houston.

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    11. Re: And do what exactly? by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 2

      When I was a kid, we didn't have a car. I usually took 2-3 3+ mile walks a day. We had public transportation, but it wasn't very good. Taking the bus often meant long waits and maybe a 10-20 minute walk from the bus stop to where we were going.

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    12. Re:And do what exactly? by Stan92057 · · Score: 2

      Only to get hit by drivers texting or surfing/talking their phones while driving..its happened twice in this area alone in the last 8 years. no side walks secondary hwy 45 MPH speed limit totally ignored 60 on up advantage speed on my stretch of road.. I wrote my bike between towns 12 miles each way in my teens never worried about cars. i wouldn't dream of riding my bike on that very same route today. No way in hell would i allow my child to ride a bike on these roads TODAY..selfish selfcenterd assholes of today make it too deadly to ride bikes

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  11. What the devil are you talking about? by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    With even the slowest modern computer and the internet you can do massive numbers of things. Programming, desktop publishing, video editing and creating are all at your fingertips. Plus thousands of free games (some legal some not so). Then there's the increased access to information. Programming roadblocks I ran into as a kid can be overcome with a quick post to stack overflow.

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  12. Creativity vs Boredom by Virtex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I remember when I was growing up, if I said I was bored my mom would always respond with, "if you're bored I can give you something to do." Of course being bored doesn't mean I have nothing to do. If that were true I could always find something to do, even if it just meant counting from one to a million. No, boredom comes from not having anything to do which I find interesting or stimulating. What I've learned is that I find far more satisfaction (and less boredom) by building or creating things. While it's easy to download a game on my phone or computer, I find it more stimulating to build my own. This is true even if the game is something simple like tic-tac-toe. Figuring out how to display the game, handle inputs, detect if someone wins, and build a decent AI is something I find interesting. Had I downloaded a tic-tac-toe game I would be bored with it, even though it would surely be more polished than my version. Not everyone likes programming, though, but there are a lot of areas that involve creativity: woodworking, sewing, painting, writing, cooking, landscaping, etc. It's just a matter of finding what you like.

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  13. Hobbies by jzarling · · Score: 2

    I have introduced my 12yro to RC cars, plastic models, Rocketry, and tabletop games. He still has his video games but these hobbies will get him outside. He has been crazy for models since a trip to the WWII Museum.

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  14. Dumb article by stabiesoft · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just like you cannot always be "happy", you cannot always be entertained. Real life has sadness and boredom.

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  16. Only boring people get bored by Shotgun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, I said it. You get bored because you're not willing you exercise yourself. You're sitting around waiting for someone else to be creative to stimulate you. Well, guess what, any environment will eventually become "normal", and observing a "normal" environment is boring. It is only when you're actively involved in changing, manipulating, improving your own environment that you see it as ever changing and exposing more detail.

    You don't have to go outside. You don't even have to put down your phone. But, you do have to change from a consumer into a producer if you want to avoid boredom.

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  17. Re:looking forward to smartphones losing their app by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    Hey man, the job market is tough for the younger crowd. Some side income can be really helpful. ....Are you SURE her interaction online is "passive"?

    Yes. If she was making money off youtube, more power to her. She actually has the tools (I've seen to this) and the education (arts and communication school) to perhaps make a living off youtube. So far, she's chosen not to. (And in anticipation of the snide comments, I'm pretty sure she's not on xhamster either.)

    People have become, by and large, content consumers

    As opposed to people watching football? How man man-hours have you spent in your life watching TV?

    That's not "opposed" at all. Watching football is exactly being a content consumer.

    As to the man-hours I've spent watching TV, I confess growing up that TV was pretty much my life, all 3 channels of it. As an adult, TV has become a lot less important. I watch one movie a week, on Friday, with pizza and beer. I follow three 45 minute series, (sans commercials) on demand, and confidentially, I'm way behind at the moment. The rest of my off-time is spent reading, doing photography (my side business, content CREATION, not consumption) or working in the electronics lab upstairs. I've put some thought into this, and have made some effort to practice what I preach.

    Wife turns on the TV first thing in the morning and just lets it drone. She's the football fanatic in the family -- I couldn't tell you who was in the last superbowl with a gun to my head. She has her own room with a barcolounger and her own TV and Roku. It's far enough away from my office to not be distracting.

    Interestingly, both wife and daughter have clinical depression. The question in the back of my head is, are they spending every waking hour watching a screen (big or small) because they're depressed, or are they depressed because they don't create anything of their own? Things, memories, experiences. Side note: Maybe that's why so many young people appear emotionally underdeveloped these days. I think the popular word is "snowflake".

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  18. Re:Fucking DUH by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 2

    Bollocks! There are plenty of tools for creating on the internet. For example, you can download and install a tool on your Android phone that allows you to build applications - right on the phone (e.g. Android Studio etc)

    The problem is you have to roll up your sleeves and not only get started, but follow through. That requires focus over time - which apparently is in short supply. Instant gratification does not build the next creative thing (whatever that may be).

    There is no free lunch. There is no easy button for life.

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