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Facebook Retracted Zuckerberg's Messages From Recipients' Inboxes (techcrunch.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: You can't remove Facebook messages from the inboxes of people you sent them to, but Facebook did that for Mark Zuckerberg and other executives. Three sources confirm to TechCrunch that old Facebook messages they received from Zuckerberg have disappeared from their Facebook inboxes, while their own replies to him conspiculously remain. An email receipt of a Facebook message from 2010 reviewed by TechCrunch proves Zuckerberg sent people messages that no longer appear in their Facebook chat logs or in the files available from Facebook's Download Your Information tool. Casey Newton, a reporter at The Verge, tweeted, "Deleting Mark's messages while leaving the recipients' intact highlights Facebook's actual views on privacy better than any statement it makes on the subject ever will"
Update: Facebook has just announced that it will give all users an option to unsend messages.
Update: Facebook has just announced that it will give all users an option to unsend messages.
This is their service running on their servers. They can do whatever they want with it. Why would anybody be surprised?
I also have my own servers, and I can also delete whatever I want from them. So what?
I don't respond to AC's.
If Facebook's policies piss you off so much, stop using it (I stopped in 2011). It's not like you have a subscription you paid for the year and now have to use up to get your money's worth or something. Just log off. Delete your account. Say no.
You can live without Facebook. It's not necessary. If they change their ways, you can always go back. Nothing will get Facebook to change the way they operate like losing millions of users really quickly. If users just bitch about, but keep using it, nothing substantial will change. If people start leaving in droves, then they will change things.
That is all.
It's good to be the King.
Most people wouldn't even notice it. The fact that you did notice means you must be our salvation... the one that's been foretold, the one we've been waiting for.
As you read this and other Slashdot posts from this week, question your sanity.
I hate Facebook so much so that I deleted my account 5 years ago. That being said most all of this smear campaign information was public 5 years ago and was a major reason why I left. I am suspect that some powerful group is behind this smear campaign. I had been telling people of the privacy issues for years, my college professors had been telling people of the privacy issues for years, Facebook's own TOS had been telling people of the privacy issues for years. Why did it not matter then but now it is a major issue? Facebook must have pissed some very powerful people off.
And Zuckerberg and Sandberg (the latter of whom is on a nationwide media dissembling tour) are lying sacks of shit.
How long can Facebook stock hold up while Peeping Tom Zuckerberg carries on as CEO? Even the general public can't be dim enough to continue contributing to this Orwellian freakshow.
I had a dream, bright and carefree, but now there's doubt and gravity
I always backup my company in/out boxes. That way if there's ever a problem I have the messages. If I worked at Facebook I'd probably get millions in bribe money.
Just doing a little spring cleaning. Nothing to see here. Delete delete delete.
1. Develop a popular tool that can provide info to the NSA.
2. Become fabulously wealthy.
3.
"These included limiting the retention period for Mark’s messages in Messenger."
Are they still Mark's messages if he sent them to somebody's inbox?
If Mark writes a snail mail and mails it to Baker,
then it is called Mark's letter but is owned by Baker.
Mark can't disappear it because he no longer owns it.
Why should E-mail and retention policies be any different?
The answer is because they can.
Might be a tactical error if you are trying to show the world that you are not getting too powerful.
Facebook should just admit that the execs of the company have that and more powers and the
ability to exercise more actions than mere mortals when it comes to messaging tools and access
to data on the website, because clearly they do.
Unfortunately they don't yet have control of users' e-mail accounts, so they can't yet delete receipts or E-mail based proofs,
although they might in the future tweak the feature that sends messages to E-mail accounts to prevent it from being used to
prove a message was sent.
just announced that it will give all users an option to unsend messages.
That's bullshit. Once you send a message and someone's read it;
what to do with the copy of the message within their Inbox should be their decision.
I could think of dozens of different scenarios where I would want to keep a message against the sender's
desires, such as evidence of wrongdoing, OR evidence to protect me (E.g. Proof they directed me to do X), and they should have no say in that.
We do something nasty.
You complain.
We let you do the same nasty things to others.
You are happy.
We win.
You've lost.
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
but I thought they are about openness and connecting people!
You can delete a message or recall an email, but you can't ever get rid of the account and all the data they have on you and will continue to collect, aggregate, and market.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
It worked for the Secretary of State, although in her case it was illegal to do so.
Also Hillary what? Are you a retardo?
How convenient, considering Zuckerberg's upcoming testimony before Congress, I don't suppose he had anything to hide, nor was he worried about contradicting anything he said on line that might enter the public record? Of course not.
Surely he's as honest and trustworthy as everyone in Congress. Right?!
It is merely a coincidence that he debuted this new message deletion feature at this particular time. Obviously.
Wiped them like with a cloth, he did: “No witness, no crime.”
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It is said so often it is cliche. On Facebook, you, the people, are the product. Whatever privacy and other protections put into place will be the minimal palatable to keep the product engaged.
Farmers maintain a minimum Quality of Life for animals so that they can be managed. This is generally kept at the commercially minimal level so the animals don't die, and produce the optimal quantity and quality of product.
Facebook is no different.
WhiteWolf666 an exBush supporter. All you new-school,compassionate,save the children Republicans can rot in hell
And we can be sure the software that "untags" doesn't suffer the same kind of "bug" as the video delete function does.
It's good to be the king.
Total Recall
Asking the Internet to please disregard your last email. Apparently it almost works on Facebook!
Update: Facebook has just announced that it will give all users an option to unsend messages.
An option to unsend all the data they've collected from us through third-parties, especially people w/o Facebook accounts (you know, the ones with "shadow profiles") ...
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line, Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it, but thy request to Mr. Zuckerberg can obliterate it from history if he wills it.
It's decent for parties and it's decent (getting worse) for messaging with people whose phone number you don't have. Sign a few billion people up on another service that does those things as well and I'll switch over. Until then I'll keep using it unless it gets too annoying.
The point is NOT whether FB can delete messages from their own platform. The point is that Zuck's communications could be the subject of a future warrant or subpoena. Did somebody decide that they needed to delete messages now, before a warrant or subpoena could be issued? It's interesting that investigators will still have the chance to find everyone else's (undeleted) messages.
"all users an option to unsend"
And pedophiles and cyberbullies the world over are now cheering...
Looks like Facebook are prepping for a governmental request for information by shredding it well in advance.
You cannot gather EU individual data nilly willy, if facebook gathered data because my family is on FB they would be in severe breach.
There's a lot of talk about Mark Zuckerberg going before congress next week to testify about Cambridge Analytica. He probably deleted his sent messages to get rid of any evidence ahead of time, so if an investigation is opened, there's no way to prove whether he lied to congress. And/or he's worried someone he sent messages to would make them public to make him look bad.
And, given everything else we know about Zuckerberg and Facebook, this is a surprise to you?
They are sociopaths, in the truest sense of the word. The feel no empathy towards you. You have no intrinsic value as a human being. You're only value is the value you generate in ads.
And, according to their chief operating officer, that's about $80/year off of each of you. Think about that. They are willing to totally fuck your life over, totally fuck society over, for a measly $80 a year.
They are evil incarnate.