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YouTube Hack: Several High-Profile Videos Mysteriously Disappear From Platform, Some Defaced

Several high-profile music videos on YouTube were mysteriously deleted early Tuesday, in what appears like the result of a security compromise. Some of the videos that have been pulled from Google's video platform include Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee's "Despacito" -- which is also the most popular video on the platform. Users reported Tuesday that the thumbnail of the video was replaced by a masked gang holding guns, who identify themselves as "Prosox and Kuroi'sh." Several songs from DJ Snake, Drake, Katy Perry, Selena Gomez, Shakira, and Taylor Swift have also been either deleted or altered with. On Twitter, a person who claims to be one of the hackers, said, "@YouTube Its just for fun i just use script "youtube-change-title-video" and i write "hacked" don t judge me i love youtube." Google has yet to acknowledge the incident. Further reading: BBC.

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  1. And by ArchieBunker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nothing of value was lost.

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    1. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the first time I've ever even heard of the "most popular video on the platform."

    2. Re:And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Karma whore hard at work here!

    3. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love how they put it in quotes and snarkily commented, rather than taking 10 seconds to see that it has 5 billion views. I imagine their internal dialogue had to be something like this... âoeI watch the YouTube and havenâ(TM)t seen it, so this must be questionable reporting and not my ignorance of international musical hits.â Maybe they were a Beiber fan. Ugh, I hate people.

    4. Re: And by belthize · · Score: 2

      To be fair that may just be one guy who's really obsessed with the video.

    5. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the first time I've ever even heard of the "most popular video on the platform."

      And nobody has heard of you either, so who gives a fuck what you think?

      The reality is, in Spanish speaking countries, this is a really well known song. That you don't know it has no bearing on that fact.

      You don't get to be the most popular video on YouTube if a lot of people aren't actually viewing it.

    6. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But most of the users who can access YouTube on the planet speak english, not spanish.

    7. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the first time I've ever even heard of the "most popular video on the platform."

      And nobody has heard of you either, so who gives a fuck what you think?

      The reality is, in Spanish speaking countries, this is a really well known song. That you don't know it has no bearing on that fact.

      You don't get to be the most popular video on YouTube if a lot of people aren't actually viewing it.

      Yes, but Spanish speaking countries are all shit holes, so who cares?

    8. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reality is, in Spanish speaking countries, this is a really well known song. That you don't know it has no bearing on that fact.

      We are in Amerca, so you're point is?

    9. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It takes a turd to know a shit-hole.

    10. Re: And by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      It could also be that they were quoting their source. That's what quotation marks are for, after all.

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    11. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a major hit world wide. Fuckn yanks.

    12. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More people in America (North and South) speak Spanish than English

    13. Re: And by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 1

      It's the first time anyone's heard of it. That's the purpose of this ad. You should go check it out. Because. Um, because of reasons. It's the most popular!

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    14. Re: And by gnick · · Score: 1

      This would seem to suggest that Despacito is popular with a wider audience than just Spanish speakers. It made a pretty big splash all over.

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    15. Re: And by BKX · · Score: 0

      In English, when 'America' is used by itself, it refers to the USA. In America, most people speak English. Just thought I'd let you know.

      Also, (for the G.?P) Despacito was number one for months on the Hot 100. If you haven't heard of it, get out of your cave once in a while. It's nice outside.

    16. Re: And by lgw · · Score: 1

      "Most popular" is measurable. It has 5 billion views. Gangnam Style "only" has 3.1 billion.

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    17. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chinese is the most popular language.
      Spanish and English are in joint second place.

    18. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh look, another ad. Buy Lays potato chips today, available in both Gangnam style and original!

    19. Re: And by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      In my experience in South Florida, it's pretty much Basic White Bitches, and Karen "let me talk to the manager" type mothers that enjoy this song.

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    20. Re: And by losfromla · · Score: 1

      you mean the women you're invisible to that you wish you could make time with?

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    21. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well yeah, big turds tend to make big splashes.

    22. Re: And by Cederic · · Score: 0

      It's not a fucking advertisement you ignorant twat, it's a fucking statement of fact.

      They don't need to fucking advertise it, half the fucking people on the planet have already watched it.

    23. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Creimer spam, mod down.

    24. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, in American you use "America" to refer to the USA. Stop correcting people on the usage of English when you mean your own minor dialect.

    25. Re: And by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      You think you're making fun, but these women are annoying, so no, your insult was garbage. Invisible would be appreciated.

    26. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chinese is the most popular language. Spanish and English are in joint second place.

      You're so cute quoting that bollocksed-up Lyons study from 1981. According to Ethnologue in 2017 Spanish speakers greatly outnumber English speakers (570M versus 400M).

    27. Re: And by losfromla · · Score: 1

      I'm sure you are invisible also, so, not really a problem for you, right?

      You sound like those fat ugly women who object to women being objectified, mainly cause they aren't being objectified themselves...

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    28. Re: And by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Despacito is huge. You've almost certainly heard it if you haven't been living in a bunker somewhere for the last six months.

    29. Re:And by AutodidactLabrat · · Score: 1

      Your tag is wrong.
      Every corporate entity obtains revenue by ensuring you have no other choice, IF it can.

    30. Re: And by Anonymous+Cow+Ward · · Score: 1

      Native speakers or speakers in general? What's the cutoff here?

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  2. If I'm being honest... by blind+biker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Several songs from DJ Snake, Drake, Katy Perry, Selena Gomez, Shakira, and Taylor Swift have also been either deleted

    Part of me is not exactly outraged. I'm thinking humanity might get ahead for a moment if the flux of stupid is interrupted.

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    1. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm thinking humanity might get ahead for a moment if the flux of stupid is interrupted.

      Actually, this will result in a net increase in stupidity due to the concentration of inattention and instant gratification.

      It'll be like the 1976 blackout all over again.

    2. Re:If I'm being honest... by GuB-42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every time popular music is involved there is always that guy who has to make a comment like that.
      Probably the same guy who comments on the "poor choice" of music at parties instead of just having fun.

      Popular music is popular for a reason guys. It is not meant to be refined, it is meant to make people happy, and it works. Respect that. Yes it is stupid, partying is stupid, having some mindless fun is stupid, but that's the kind of stupid that makes the world a better place.

    3. Re:If I'm being honest... by belthize · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nah, I think it's just because this particular new generation has shit taste in music vs my generation, oddly enough the generation previous to mine also had shit taste in music.

    4. Re:If I'm being honest... by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

      Honestly DJ Snake has a good sense of humor. He made this video after all https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    5. Re:If I'm being honest... by lucm · · Score: 4, Informative

      Every time popular music is involved there is always that guy who has to make a comment like that.
      Probably the same guy who comments on the "poor choice" of music at parties instead of just having fun.

      As far as I'm concerned, real music died when heathens turned away from gregorian chants and started to use harmonies and chords. Once that line was crossed, the gates of Hell opened and now we have fat girls with no musical talent on the youtubes.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      ^ This is not what God intended when he gave us the blessed diatonic scale. REPENT, PEOPLE

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    6. Re:If I'm being honest... by blind+biker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Every time popular music is involved there is always that guy who has to make a comment like that.

      And everytime there is someone pooping on pop music, there is that guy who is karmawhoring with exactly these words.

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    7. Re:If I'm being honest... by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The three steps of getting old:

      1: The music is great!
      2: The music is just not great anymore.
      3: The music could be great (because it's all covers of the songs I loved in my youth) but they play it ALL WRONG!

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    8. Re:If I'm being honest... by jellomizer · · Score: 0

      There are people who just get joy out of feeling superior to others. The thing with music, any music if you listen to it enough where you get to a point where you can find the pattern. It starts sounding good. Popular music follows the basic trends so it is easy to get the pattern, with sometimes a slight amount of surprise just to spice it up a bit. It is much easier and enjoyable to listen to, then trying to get into Classical/Jazz Funk fusion with Bluegrass elements all played with didgeridoo, accordion and bagpipe trio. Now this crazy combination can be musical, interesting. However it will take some time to learn how the sounds mix together. And would probably never make it to popular music. Because people, often smart and cultured people, just don't have the time to invest in learning to like such music and will fall back to the familiar.

      Now there are some popular songs that I don't like (Normally I classify it as the Whiny Privileged California Girl song). That is Ok, because you don't have to like everything, you also don't have to hate everything either.

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    9. Re:If I'm being honest... by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 2

      Popular music is popular because it is popular.

      I'll back up a bit. Popular music is written specifically to appeal to the lowest common denominator, a simple rhythm that resonates with most people in a given region or culture, on a basic level. There are a lot of well-known tricks you can use, including a "heartbeat" rhythm, a straight-forward happy-sounding refrain that is easy to sing along to, a repeated refrain at end of the song with the final repetition a half tone up, there's a whole recipe for making pop music with a reasonable chance at success.

      Obviously, taste is fickle and ever-changing, so you also need a hell of a lot of luck to make a popular hit. The big labels use their influence to push their chosen "hit potentials" to radio stations, streaming playlists (including club music services), TV shows, DJs, all over the place. When people hear a song over and over, it creates associations, and they'll be more apt to put on that song, or request it at parties. It's a cumulative effect.

      This is not intended to put down pop music, a lot of it is extremely well-written for its purpose and produced in an extremely slick, ear-friendly fashion. I don't think anyone can honestly ignore the talent of someone like George Michael, no matter how much they prefer other genres.

      Popular != good, but it's also != automatically shit.

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    10. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It'll be like the 1976 blackout all over again.

      Except without the bell bottoms.

      Actually I've never heard of the 1976 blackout, probably because I was 1 year old, or it took place somewhere unrelated to me. Had it affected my family in some way, they probably would have mentioned it.

      I guess I'll check that out on wikipedia now.

    11. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess I'll check that out on wikipedia now.

      So I checked, and it was 1977, and it was only in New York.

      All of my reasons for not knowing or caring still stand.

    12. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We must be of the same generation because every generation had a bad taste in music except for mine.

    13. Re: If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You say that like it's a problem with humans and not a distribution problem.

      There are still people who love '60s-style rock and roll music. There are still people making music in that style. You just can't get to it because the music industry always caters to what 16-year-olds currently like.

      Hopefully somebody finds a way to extract cash for "dead" music styles some day.

    14. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every time popular music is involved there is always that guy who has to make a comment like that.
      Probably the same guy who comments on the "poor choice" of music at parties instead of just having fun.

      Popular music is popular for a reason guys. It is not meant to be refined, it is meant to make people happy, and it works. Respect that. Yes it is stupid, partying is stupid, having some mindless fun is stupid, but that's the kind of stupid that makes the world a better place.

      No, we covered this already in a study that was posted https://science.slashdot.org/story/18/01/15/231230/is-pop-music-becoming-louder-simpler-and-more-repetitive this generation's music is literally the worst since we've been keeping sales records, it's vapid and talentless garbage pushed out by the music industry via heavy advertisement through both youtube and traditional media sources. what is worse is that there is still exceptionally good music being produced and made available via youtube, but most people are too stupid and lazy to break from the same old shit playlist the youtube algorithm is being paid to show them.

    15. Re: If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Music could be formed every decade, and grunge and disco could still be going strong in parallel, but instead we all have to be listening to the same thing -- either today's pop or "the classics".

    16. Re: If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with you, and I've tried this with current pop, but I think I do find the pattern, but it's so offensively simple that I'm sick to death of the pattern by the time the song finishes the first time.

      They're basically jingles.

      I'll keep forcing myself to listen to hopefully stave off old age another year, but at this point I don't think there's anything there.

    17. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Popular music is dreck to make stupid people more stupid.

    18. Re:If I'm being honest... by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

      You left out: 4. The music is just TOO LOUD!

    19. Re:If I'm being honest... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      And 5, it's not loud enough.

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    20. Re: If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too damn loud

    21. Re:If I'm being honest... by lgw · · Score: 1

      The problem with that line of reasoning is: bands like Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd and Dire Straits and Rush really were better.

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    22. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every time popular music is involved there is always that guy who has to make a comment like that.
      Probably the same guy who comments on the "poor choice" of music at parties instead of just having fun.

      Popular music is popular for a reason guys. It is not meant to be refined, it is meant to make people happy, and it works. Respect that. Yes it is stupid, partying is stupid, having some mindless fun is stupid, but that's the kind of stupid that makes the world a better place.

      Okay. I was agreeing with you up until "but that's the kind of stupid that makes the world a better place." Not sure where you got that from. Being stupid is fun, and certainly okay in moderation. An over abundance of stupid can lead to MORE stupid, if allowed to run amok. The old person term for that kind of stupid is "lazy."

      I'll agree that stupid is a necessary and important part of life. Okay, I'll even accept that it makes the world a better place. // Changes mind midway through typing.

      However, too much of anything is not good. But I guess that wasn't the point of your post . . . // Changes goal to fit the post

    23. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more likely the 2003 blackout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    24. Re:If I'm being honest... by lgw · · Score: 1

      I'll back up a bit. Popular music is written specifically to appeal to the lowest common denominator, a simple rhythm that resonates with most people in a given region or culture, on a basic level. There are a lot of well-known tricks you can use, including a "heartbeat" rhythm, a straight-forward happy-sounding refrain that is easy to sing along to, a repeated refrain at end of the song with the final repetition a half tone up, there's a whole recipe for making pop music with a reasonable chance at success.

      Not just pop music - check this out: https://youtu.be/B9FzVhw8_bY

      Obviously, taste is fickle and ever-changing, so you also need a hell of a lot of luck to make a popular hit.

      Taste may change, but I suspect this recipe is very old - certainly older than radio, probably as old as music that's recognizably western (e.g., medieval folk music). Check this out: https://youtu.be/x9g7azfKckc

      It's a modern arrangement, so it's not clear evidence, but certainly the pattern of happy-sounding sing-along chorus and an appropriate beat is centuries old.

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    25. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a Sheeple comment to me...

      "Stop being a downer guys. Everyone else is doing it! Stop making fun of us who choose to waste our lives on this plastic, throw-away trash!"

      The part about justifying it was making the world a better place screams Sheeple too. It's sad that rather than enjoy a joke, you have to be all self-righteous and guilt those having fun. That's very politically correct of you (Whoops! Another Sheeple trait!)

    26. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Part of me is not exactly outraged. I'm thinking humanity might get ahead for a moment if the flux of stupid is interrupted.

      Stupid isn't a zero sum game.

      You think humanity will move on to intelligent things because a couple of distractions are taken away? It doesn't work that way, unfortunately.

    27. Re:If I'm being honest... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      I think this article explains what you're suggesting. I could be wrong.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    28. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6. What?

    29. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sorry to break this to you but we aren't at a party right now. Pop music is shit. No, you don't say that at a party, but please don't host a party and play it.

      I got a reputation for throwing great parties. It all revolved around the music and the fact that these people would get to listen to great music that they had never heard before. The funny thing is, no one knew the music was the only real reason the parties were great.

      Pop music only resonates for one reason: it is pay-to-play on the radio, streaming, youtube, etc so that everyone knows the song and gets it stuck in their heads. Everything else stems from that one simple principle. Basic psychology dictates it is top of mind because you have heard it all freaking day, so what do you do, PLAY IT AGAIN. Now you are temporarily the hero of the party: you played the song everyone was hoping for.

      The pitfalls are that a) pop songs on average are objectively shit (see the rest of pitfalls) b) everyone has a *temporary* relief during the song but the after effects are much like a hangover (because the song actually sucks) c) There are only about ~10 "active" pop songs in peoples heads at a given time for ~30 minutes of music (after ~10 you get into the WAY over played songs OR the not-quite popular enough songs) d) Back to objectively crap songs... after 30 minutes you have no more options. Since the songs are crap you can't play the over-played pop songs and you can't play the up and coming songs. You must wait until the radio has brainwashed people into thinking the song is good before you can play it at a party.

      Obviously, every once in a great while, there is a pop song that is NOT shit. That is NOT what I am talking about here. That one 3 minute pop song doesn't exonerate the rest.

    30. Re: If I'm being honest... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Strangely I still am listening to what I like and new music is coming out all the time but it isn't pop music. Just because German industrial, Scandinavian style Taiwanese death metal, modern classical, etc. isn't being played on any of the pop stations near me doesn't mean that those styles aren't being created. Hell with places like YouTube it is now easier than ever to find new bands/musicians that you might like and with Amazon one can get almost any album.

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    31. Re:If I'm being honest... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Nah, I think it's just because this particular new generation has shit taste in music vs my generation, oddly enough the generation previous to mine also had shit taste in music.

      This new generation has better taste in music than most; music from prior generations (mostly just one generation prior, to be fair) is outselling the stuff supposedly produced for them. It happened in 2015, 2016, and at least the first half of 2017.

      I attribute this fact to new music sounding the same as old music. Even "new" "country" music just sounds like last generation's Top 40 pop, with a little bit of accent and some different instruments. But more importantly, I keep hearing "new" popular music which sounds just like stuff that they were playing on the radio in the late eighties and early nineties. If it's going to sound the same, why not listen to something old? It's probably cheaper.

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    32. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Totally agree, but the summary cut off Pink Floyd at Pink, so I _had_ to read how on earth Pink and Led Zepplin went together.

    33. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Popular music is popular for a reason guys. It is not meant to be refined, it is meant to make people happy, and it works. Respect that.

      Limp Bizkit was popular music once too, and Fred Durst is so objectively terrible that other musicians lose a little talent just for standing too close to him.

    34. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I recommend watching this episode of [James Burke - Connection series - 'The Trigger Effect' it's about this New York black out, and the fragile nature of our societies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEIz7Hv0XwY&index=11&list=PLqHuD6i-ZpNGhW4d_2S9TaxNfUmATLEkO&

    35. Re:If I'm being honest... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Several songs from DJ Snake, Drake, Katy Perry, Selena Gomez, Shakira, and Taylor Swift have also been either deleted

      Haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate.

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    36. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or to put it another way, like a musician not dissing on another simply because hip-hop, or rap, was not his preference, he spoke about how not everyone has to sing like himself because 'his music fills a need' or something more like, his music fills a space where people can enjoy themselves, without having to step on anyone. That's all it is, and he has died since then. But there is something out there for everybody. It just so happened that for some crazed nut, YouTube was the low-hanging fruit

    37. Re:If I'm being honest... by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      I guess I just don't fall into any of your categorizations. I long ago stopped worrying about what other people thought of my favorite bands. Some are or were popular, others not. If it's a decent musical composition that doesn't regurgitate the same 2 measures of musical patterns in endless repetition, it at least stands a chance of being good. Most popular music these days fails even that standard. I also don't wish to "learn to like" some crap. If I dislike like it on first listen history has shown that repeated listening only intensifies my dislike.

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    38. Re:If I'm being honest... by yuriklastalov · · Score: 1

      How is it that these things make the world a better place? These, and many other things, are assumed to be good because they were previously considered bad. There's no time wasted on determining if things were taboo in the past for any particular reason, just a blind and uncompromising orgy of iconoclastic fervor.

      Everything anyone has ever said is bad must be good because saying things are bad is not nice and not being nice is bad. Liberalism is a hell of a drug.

    39. Re:If I'm being honest... by martinX · · Score: 1

      ... how on earth Pink and Led Zepplin went together.

      Well there was this really great party they were all at and everyone put their keys in a bowl, and then along came the mud shark...

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    40. Re:If I'm being honest... by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Yes, you're absolutely right :-) It resonates with us, and has done so for centuries.

      My point with the fickle and ever-changing taste is that you may write and perform a song that hits all of those techniques, gets radio play and is objectively a good candidate for a popular song, but there is no guarantee. It may simply not have the right kind of hook at the right time, it may not hit just that right combination to resonate with people. The big picture is there, but the devil is in the details.

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    41. Re:If I'm being honest... by KozmoStevnNaut · · Score: 1

      Sure, they were great. But you're forgetting all the shitty bands that were around back then, because they were forgettable, just like most popular music today. Most of this stuff will be completely forgotten in 5-10 years.

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    42. Re:If I'm being honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a counter-argument, "popular" music is only ever purchased by an absolute tiny minority of the population. Just because it's called popular music doesn't mean it has any kind of majority appeal. It's perfectly possible that the vast majority of people don't buy music because they think what's on offer is utterly shit, and what's "popular" is only popular amongst the absolutely tiny minority of the population that does buy music.

      Thus you can't rationally say the GP is some odd one out, perhaps you encounter "that guy" regularly, because "that guy" actually represents the majority of the population.

      The fact that Taylor Swift's best selling album sold 7.1 million copies in the US, doesn't change the fact that there's 318.6 million people in the US that didn't buy it, or 294.2 million people if you want to select just the adult population and assume no one under 18 buys anything for themselves.

    43. Re:If I'm being honest... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Nah, I think it's just because this particular new generation has shit taste in music vs my generation, oddly enough the generation previous to mine also had shit taste in music.

      Yes, I may be old but I got to see all the good bands.

      There are still a few bands who make decent music and I know sturgeons law applies to everything... but it seems that popular music is crap. I don't blame the "utes" for this, I blame the people pushing it. Musicians with skill and talent tend to have brains that get their own ideas, want a fair slice of the earnings, may even start performing without a label. However if you can churn out a steady stream of talentless pop/rap/electronic crap via autotune then the publishers ultimately control the "creators" and when they also decide what is popular by controlling what gets played its easy to turn any dross into a chart topper.

      Back in the 60's, the biggest complaint was that certain popular bands like The Monkeys didn't write their own songs. Now days it doesn't even factor into it (it took 17 people to write Justin Bieber's "Baby") In the 90's we complained that certain artists like Kylie Minogue mimed their concerts, now that is accepted as the "artists" own voice cant match what has been autotuned out as a recording. I think there is a lot of evidence for the notion that music has gotten considerably worse over the years.

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  3. Funny by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 5, Informative

    Funny, you forgot to quote this:

    The hackers, calling themselves Prosox and Kuroi'sh, had written "Free Palestine" underneath the videos.

    1. Re:Funny by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Funny, you forgot to quote[...]

      It's quite astonishing what some people will do to prevent anyone hearing their story.

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    2. Re:Funny by JoshuaZ · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Hmm, does that mean that the summary is biased against the Palestinians for suppressing the message or does that mean that the summary is biased for the Palestinians and against the Israelis by not mentioning that the hackers are spreading their message by damaging popular websites 100% unrelated to the conflict in question? Why not both?

    3. Re:Funny by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 0, Troll

      Funny, you forgot to quote[...]

      It's quite astonishing what some people will do to prevent anyone hearing their story.

      Like ... by publishing their "story" in the Washington Post? Yeah, what a coverup! :)

      No, my point was that msmash was trying (knowing that few click to the articles) to omit the involvement/culpability of the agents of Religion of Pieces in this hacking that this /. story is about.

    4. Re:Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the low quality clickbait title is doing a fine job of that on it's own.

    5. Re:Funny by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Hmm, does that mean that the summary is biased against the Palestinians for suppressing the message or does that mean that the summary is biased for the Palestinians and against the Israelis by not mentioning that the hackers are spreading their message by damaging popular websites 100% unrelated to the conflict in question? Why not both?

      Given that this is /. and it was posted by msmash, I'm thinking the latter.

    6. Re:Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Funny, you forgot to quote[...]

      It's quite astonishing what some people will do to prevent anyone hearing their story.

      Like ... by publishing their "story" in the Washington Post? Yeah, what a coverup! :)

      The coverup is shooting someone who is clearly identified as a journalist. Israel does this kind of thing all the time. Hell, when an Israeli soldier was caught on video shooting a wounded and detained Palestinian in the head and was sentenced to a year in prison there were protests because the sentence was too harsh!

    7. Re:Funny by lucm · · Score: 0

      Funny, you forgot to quote[...]

      It's quite astonishing what some people will do to prevent anyone hearing their story.

      Dial down your off-topic antisemitic propaganda. The guy wasn't killed to prevent people from hearing a story, he was killed because he was in the middle of a violent riot.

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    8. Re:Funny by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Probably because people care more about YouTube than Palestine?

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    9. Re:Funny by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I probably means that the BBC identified correctly that people care about YouTube while not giving a fuck about either Israel or Palestine.

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    10. Re:Funny by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I'm kind of glad it got left out. There's far too much effort to drag politics into stories when there's plenty to discuss about the hacking itself. Also, I'd argue that by focusing on the perpetrators and their message, you only provide a lot more encouragement for others to do the same to get their message out there. It's the same reason that news stations are discouraged from showing and endlessly discussing the perpetrator in mass shootings or terror attacks because it is believe to encourage others to do it.

      Who cares if the assholes that did it are Palestinian assholes, white nationalist assholes, Islamist assholes, Antifa assholes, etc.? Doesn't really change the fact that they're assholes and shouldn't be given publicity for being dicks.

    11. Re:Funny by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 0

      I'm kind of glad it got left out. There's far too much effort to drag politics into stories when there's plenty to discuss about the hacking itself.

      A fair point.

    12. Re:Funny by tinkerton · · Score: 2

      That is mildly ironic because in general any mention of 'Palestine' is considered reason enough to delete a video. Or a twitter or facebook account.

    13. Re:Funny by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dial down your off-topic antisemitic propaganda. The guy wasn't killed to prevent people from hearing a story, he was killed because he was in the middle of a violent riot.

      Being opposed to the deliberate murder of journalists is not antisemitic. Being opposed to the silencing of the people of Palestine is not antisemitic. Pointing out that the nation of Israel is using many of the tactics of Nazi Germany is not antisemitic. Pointing out that Slashdot buried probably the most important fact of the story is not antisemitic.

      If and when I start ranting about how "the Jews" are doing this or that, start pointing your accusatory finger. If I start frothing about how "the Zionist Conspiracy" is running Hollywood, you can point and laugh.

      My views on the subject are summed up in this informative documentary.

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    14. Re:Funny by Hentes · · Score: 1

      They just hacked the second largest site on the web, I don't think they need an obscure tech forum to spread their propaganda. And if this drives islamists towards vandalism instead of murder, that's an improvement.

    15. Re:Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hackers, calling themselves Prosox and Kuroi'sh, had written "Free Palestine" underneath the videos.

      Is it normally quite expensive?

    16. Re: Funny by guruevi · · Score: 0

      Actually, opposing the state of Israel is anti-semitic just like opposing Islam is anti-muslim. It is a matter of perspective.

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    17. Re:Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did they write it because they're Palestinians looking to draw attention to their cause? Did they write it because they're hipsters who think it's a cool cause to promote with guerrilla tactics? Or did they write it because it would get a really good response for trolling?

      For some reason I'm thinking it's the last one.

    18. Re: Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      White people living in America whining about Israeli land rights is fucking hilarious.

      They have 3,200 years of history in that region. The Palestinians are from Jordan, and were exiled for being violent pieces of shit. No amount of lies and propaganda will change that.

    19. Re: Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, opposing the state of Israel is anti-semitic just like opposing Islam is anti-muslim. It is a matter of perspective.

      The state of Israel is not equivalent to the Jewish faith. Opposing Palestine, or any Muslim state, is not the same as being anti-Muslim.

      Orthodox Jews are anti-semetic in that they do not believe that Israel has an inherit right or necessity to exist. There were riots started based on this fact last year when orthodox peoples studying the Torah were against themselves serving as conscripts in the IDF.

      Semetisim is not Judaism. Semetic scholars, statesmen, writers, and journalists have moved to great lengths to ensure people do not believe that thought. All the same, nearly half of all Jewish people living in Israel don't believe anti-Israel and anti-semetism is anti-Jewish. Why should you?

    20. Re: Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The area designated as Israel has only been so for about 100 years and is being occupied by descendants of Khazaria, not Semites

    21. Re:Funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup. Heard about that already.
      That that it isn't noted in the title hear is.... what? Misleading? Politically slanted? Defending Israeli perspective?

      This is a tech site, not WashPo, Politico, or BBC... /$insert news avenue of choice here

      2 Hackers, 'scripting' removal of the highest viewed videos on Youtube is apropos for this forum.
      If you want talk about the motivation of said act, beyond the lulz, state it, point where to find that info, and move on. This isn't a grand conspiracy to subjugate Palestine, much to your pointed dismay.

    22. Re: Funny by orgelspieler · · Score: 1

      So Jon Stewart is an anti-Semite?

    23. Re: Funny by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Actually, opposing the state of Israel is anti-semitic just like opposing Islam is anti-muslim. It is a matter of perspective.

      Opposing Islam is anti-muslim the definition of muslim is follower of Islam, but the definition of semite is not "living in Israel"; semitic is equivalent to hispanic in that it refers to people who speak any of a group of languages. The modern state of Israel is an artificial creation imagined by the British and implemented by America, and we continue to fund its activities via our foreign aid program. Therefore, we have a stake in (and shared responsibility for) their activities. Our tax dollars are murdering journalists and working inexorably towards another genocide, and I for one take exception to that. I oppose it when we do it directly, and I oppose it when we do it by proxy.

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    24. Re:Funny by Cederic · · Score: 1

      What the fuck makes you think 'Free Palestine' has anything to do with religion?

      I'm an atheist and I greatly dislike Israel's illegal occupations.

    25. Re: Funny by Cederic · · Score: 1

      No, it's not.

      It's perfectly reasonable to dislike followers of the Jewish faith for their racism and child mutilation, but that's got fuck all to do with the multi-faith nation of Israel, which has plenty of non-religious reasons to despise and/or admire.

    26. Re: Funny by Brockmire · · Score: 1

      Because they are civilians, you fucking psychopath. There's always been a difference fighting military vs civilians. The ones fighting in wars know that.

    27. Re: Funny by lgw · · Score: 1

      If you're marching along with the soldiers, fighting alongside them, claiming to be a civilian shouldn't mean much. Journalists do however have special provision in many treaties that they will not be considered unlawful combatants or spies, even though they aren't in uniform, which seems right to me.

      There's always been a difference fighting military vs civilians.

      You'd be surprised how rare it is in practice that armies care, laudable as it might be as an ideal.

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    28. Re: Funny by guruevi · · Score: 1

      The entire premise of Israel existing and having exclusive access to holy sites is based on a theological promise, same for Palestine but for a different party. Opposing the State of Israel, both in the State of Israel and among religious jews abroad is considered blasphemy and to them it is tantamount to holocaust denial. Israel is a semi-theocracy, it is certainly not a democracy and its modern policies and actions are based on (their) holy scripture rather than reason.

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    29. Re: Funny by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Religious idiots expecting specific things about Israel does not prevent critique of the state as a secular entity, whether its motives are driven through economic, ideological or theocratic influences.

      When I criticise Israel I do so knowing that many of its citizens are not Jewish.

    30. Re:Funny by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The hackers, calling themselves Prosox and Kuroi'sh, had written "Free Palestine" underneath

      Underneath that, somebody else wrote "With every 10 gallons".

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  4. When conservatives get screwed with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Itâ(TM)s no big deal or even called âoesensibleâ but donâ(TM)t fuck with a pop star or you will be enemy number one. That seems like the default position of all social media firms in Silicon Valley.

    1. Re:When conservatives get screwed with by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Welcome to America where the opinion of someone whose only redeeming feature are a pair of nice tits and the ability to be autotuned to sound tolerable is actually considered important.

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  5. "altered with"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

    1. Re:"altered with"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nt

      NT goes in the title (too).

  6. Security hack or auto-removals due to DMCA? by houghi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would not be surprised if somebody had found a way to abuse the auto-removal of music. Perhaps enough complaints and they even remove those.
    We know that Youtube has been blocking movies and sites without reviewing complaints or at least demonitized them. Thsi is how that works:
    People put up a video of their own making with their own content. Somebody complaints and the content is (temporarily) demonitized till the maker notices and complaints. It will then be reversed.
    The problem is that most videos will make the most money in the beginning. All those subscribers will look at the video and you will not get any money from them.

    Then there are the videos that are auto-blocked because somebody send in that it was copyrighted without any proof whatsoever.

    Could be either that or they pissed off enough people and now one is pissing back. That would be better news than them being hacked. How could they be hacked? Perhaps there finally was a person who was able to solve the Captcha questions correctly.

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    1. Re:Security hack or auto-removals due to DMCA? by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      I just don't get why when a video is under investigation they can hold onto the payments for the views, then if found innocent they just pay them back. If guilty then the payments go to the proper copyright holder.
      I would also like to go further where the person putting in the complaint found to be false should pay the fair use compensation for their troubles.

      YouTube demonitization method is Guilty until proven innocent, and you are punished while guilty.

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    2. Re:Security hack or auto-removals due to DMCA? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      Being paid by youtube is not some sort of natural right -- you're working for them, so you play by their rules and procedures if you want to work for them. Youtube themselves lose money by demonetizing videos, so it seems rather uncharacteristically praiseworthy of them to stop showing ads when they're not sure if they should be monetizing something.

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    3. Re:Security hack or auto-removals due to DMCA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Youtube themselves lose money by demonetizing videos

      How so?

  7. Rick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What about Rick Astley?

    1. Re:Rick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what about him?

  8. I am Thankful ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To those script kiddies,

    Thank you for not deleting educational programs that could benefit many students !

  9. Call Me, Selena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Give me a call if you need some help getting through this tough time.

    1. Re:Call Me, Selena by lucm · · Score: 1

      Give me a call if you need some help getting through this tough time.

      Really? From that list of celebs that's the one you creep on?

      You must be one of those people who like the wrong girl in t.a.t.u or in wilson phillips.

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      lucm, indeed.
    2. Re:Call Me, Selena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a fan of the ladies, eh lucm?

  10. not 100% unrelated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drake is jewish, so it's not 100% unrelated.

  11. Re: Empach TRUMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He wull dye in prison! CNN and Hillary! told me so.

  12. Re:Empach TRUMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    OK but what is "Empach"? Ferrari's latest car?

  13. Script-Kiddies by electroblood · · Score: 1

    Since when are script-kiddies news?

    1. Re:Script-Kiddies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when are script-kiddies news?

      If script kiddies can alter YouTube, then YouTube has some serious problems they need to fess up to.

      It's not like it some little Wordpress site.

  14. Re:Empach TRUMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Someone hasn't had their covfefe yet.

  15. Script kiddies - Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All of the affected channels were "VEVO" channels... It's easy to surmise that a Google account of someone from VEVO was compromised and that Google account had access to edit all of those channels and videos.

  16. This already happened once in the past on YT. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember the Youtube poop hack? EmpLemon did a history report on it.

  17. altered with? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The display of poor language skills is horrifying. Could Slashdot please find editors with the ability to briefly appear to be people of normal intellect and capability?

    1. Re:altered with? by lgw · · Score: 1

      The display of poor language skills is horrifying. Could Slashdot please find editors with the ability to briefly appear to be people of normal intellect and capability?

      You must be new here!

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  18. wrong girl? by DrYak · · Score: 2

    I find your concept that there could be "a wrong girl" intriguing.

    whatever floats your boat, dude.

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  19. Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously, this is to fuck with Zuck.

  20. Probably hacked the record label, not YouTube. by pikine · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the pattern of the damage, those YouTube channels belonging to DJ Snake, Drake, Katy Perry, etc. probably are managed by the same record label marketing person. They probably just hacked into the computer managing these channels while the accounts are still logged in. Everything they did for the damage are something that channel owners could do: changing cover picture, video description, deletion. The actual video content itself hasn't been changed, which is exactly what content creators can't do to their videos, despite it being a popular request.

    If they had really hacked YouTube, they may have been able to replace the video if they could pull it off, but since the videos are divided into chunks and aggressively cached by the CDN (as the videos are served over MPEG-DASH), they will probably get very mixed result at best with some chunks from the old video mixed with chunks from the new video.

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    1. Re:Probably hacked the record label, not YouTube. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      If you hacked Youtube, the most likely option would be to call whatever API they used to upload a video. Use Google's systems against itself.

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  21. Oh noes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My ABBA play list! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

    #foreverdancingqueen

  22. "either deleted or altered with" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does "altered with" mean?
    Oh, it's an 'Americanism', meaning 'something written by an illiterate cretin who bastardises his language on a daily basis - in other words - an AMERICAN'...

  23. I must be missing something by k6mfw · · Score: 2

    Examples cited in summary seems to me we're not missing much but maybe that's me as I'm not familiar with many of these names. I think there are plenty other options to get videos of today's major stars. It is the older ones (i.e. Connie Francis, Julie London) no longer on the Top 40 list (if there is such a thing these days) that would be a shame if that footage becomes lost.

    Besides music there are many other interesting videos like techie stuff on how to implement various stuff, interesting documentary clips no longer shown on television both OTA and CATV. If this stuff goes, then it's back to old days of swapping VHS tapes.

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  24. Is "altered with" a thing? by mark-t · · Score: 1

    I don't think I've heard that expression before... what's the difference between that and "tampered with"?

    1. Re:Is "altered with" a thing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The videos themselves were left intact, I think. (couldn't check as it is not my type of music anyway)

  25. Re: Empach TRUMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Butbut it was my turn!!

  26. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just lol at all these comments

    Maybe not 'lol' though because it's actually kinda sad

  27. I can see them ATM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankee's "Despacito" is still there. Here from Norway.

    Wtf are you talking about?

  28. Go back to Voat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Being opposed to the deliberate murder of journalists is not antisemitic.

    Prove that it was deliberate? If you're in the middle of a group of people fighting, it's not unlikely that you'll get shot by accident.

    > Being opposed to the silencing of the people of Palestine is not antisemitic.

    They're hardly silenced, given that they have a voice in no less than the Washington Post. What people oppose is their violence. If they tried peaceful means to get what they want, instead of bombs and rockets, they might not have such opposition.

    > Pointing out that the nation of Israel is using many of the tactics of Nazi Germany is not antisemitic.

    So, calling Israel Nazis is not anti-semitic now? Worse, you haven't even listed the supposed tactic(s) nor proven that they actually use them, lest you have to defend the claim that the tactics are in use and bad on their own merits without relying on guilt by association.

    > If and when I start ranting about how "the Jews" are doing this or that, start pointing your accusatory finger.

    How did you not just do that? Do you truly think that blaming Israel is truly different from blaming "the Jews"?

    > If I start frothing about how "the Zionist Conspiracy" is running Hollywood, you can point and laugh.

    And yet you just claimed the media were out to silence Palestine! So it's okay if it's a media conspiracy that's alluded to and not Hollywood?

    Maybe you should go back to Voat, you'd fit right in there.

    1. Re:Go back to Voat. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      How did you not just do that? Do you truly think that blaming Israel is truly different from blaming "the Jews"?

      Of course it is. There are plenty of anti-Zionist Jews, and even more non-Zionist ones. You don't even know that?

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  29. Re: Empach TRUMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't be so racist toward orangutans!

  30. And yet *I* get that strange look by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    And yet I get that strange look when I say You sound like a broken record

    Just get off my lawn.

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