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Netflix, Amazon, and Major Studios Try To Shut Down $20-Per-Month TV Service (arstechnica.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Netflix, Amazon, and the major film studios have once again joined forces to sue the maker of a TV service and hardware device, alleging that the products are designed to illegally stream copyrighted videos. The lawsuit was filed against the company behind Set TV, which sells a $20-per-month TV service with more than 500 channels.

"Defendants market and sell subscriptions to 'Setvnow,' a software application that Defendants urge their customers to use as a tool for the mass infringement of Plaintiffs' copyrighted motion pictures and television shows," the complaint says. Besides Netflix and Amazon, the plaintiffs are Columbia Pictures, Disney, Paramount Pictures, Twentieth Century Fox, Universal, and Warner Bros. The complaint was filed Friday in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. The companies are asking for permanent injunctions to prevent further distribution of Set TV software and devices, the impoundment of Set TV devices, and for damages including the defendants' profits.

23 of 212 comments (clear)

  1. Always winning! by AndyKron · · Score: 2, Funny

    Cool! I'm saving $20/mo by not getting it in the first place. Always winning!

    1. Re:Always winning! by houghi · · Score: 2, Funny

      I saved 2EUR per day by running after the bus, till somebody explained to me that was stupid. Now I run after taxis and save a LOT more.

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    2. Re:Always winning! by asylumx · · Score: 2, Funny

      This was immediately a whoosh for me, thinking "well that makes sense, taxis will take a more direct route than buses."

  2. Re:Sounds good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Allow me to point it out to you, then. When you stop paying the content creators for their content, they will stop making it. This is why we can't have nice content.

  3. Re:The next site... by stealth_finger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Me and my friends walk into AC's house and take everything. It's not a crime. Everybody is doing it. What's more, it says AC on all the receipts, so go on, prove it's not mine.

    Nope, you go in and make copies of everything. AC won't even notice unless he catches you in the act or is watching, either way he's in the exact same position as before you and your buddies turned up.

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  4. Re:Sounds good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The BBC also "spends" over 40% of the UK TV tax on advertising, despite not having to compete. The BBC sent about 450 people for a month long 5* stay in Brazil during the Olympics, despite not being the broadcaster cover the events. The BBC accepts hundreds of millions from the EU, despite being a UK broadcaster with the remit to provide services to the UK which commercial broadcasters would not.

    It's time the TV tax was killed, and the BBC learnt to live beyond it's self-indulgent PC-obsessed unreality world. Netflix-like iplayer subscriptions will bring in plenty of income from around the world.

  5. Re: Sounds good. by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You (meaning Americans) can't have nice content

    A billion+ people around the world, in 100+ countries, would beg to disagree.

    But hey, the important thing here is that you get to feel superior to those ignorant rednecks and show the world how cultured and refined you are. Who cares what the help thinks, as long as they bring the tea and biscuits when you ring your bell.

  6. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 4, Interesting

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  7. Re:Sounds good. by BlueStrat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even if that were a problem, stealing content does nothing to fix it. Try again.

    Wrong.

    Stealing their content and distributing it for free, and any other means of damaging them, their profits, and their systems of control until they go bankrupt is the only way things will ever get better.

    Burn it down.

    The legal and political systems have been suborned by their lobbying and outright bribery so there is no relief possible by legal means.

    That just leaves destroying them in the most efficient means possible. Kill their ability to sustain their business. Only once their profits have been destroyed and their money can no longer can buy them legal/political protection can justice be served.

    Strat

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  8. Help Please by WinstonWolfIT · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Their web site doesn't explain where the content comes from. The media companies being annoyed says it's doing some sort of end around.

    1. Re:Help Please by Kenja · · Score: 3, Informative

      It comes from the web. They are tapping into the streaming content that others provide, inserting their own ads and calling it a day. Thus the lawsuit, they are basicly "rebroadcasting" content without permission.

      So at the end of the day, you're paying 20$ a month for a web browser and an aggregation service.

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  9. Re:DirecTV Now vs. Youtube TV vs. Set TV? by Sarten-X · · Score: 2

    Apparently the lack of licensing agreements would be a major point...

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  10. Welcome to Gig Economy. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2
    There should be an Uber for Netflix.

    When I am not watching Netflix, I should be able to sell the stream I am entitled to, on the net for some money on the side.

    I think this service should label itself "as NOT a TV service provider" and call it self "media stream hailing service (SHS)". I should be able to list my Netflix stream, Prime stream on it for a specific duration. Anyone can look it up and hail this stream and pay me for use. I might sell my Netflix stream for 20 cents an hour. The SHS company will take its cut, may be 8 cents and give me 12 cents. Or I might sell it for 1 cent an hour, and we split it 50-50 with the SHS.

    That would be a real disruptor. Quick, let me patent/copyright this idea.

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  11. Re:Sounds good. by InvalidsYnc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Stealing their content and distributing it for free, and any other means of damaging them, their profits, and their systems of control until they go bankrupt is the only way things will ever get better.

    So, if we keep raiding your bank account, that will make things better for you? Sounds like a good plan.

    According to your plan above ALL content makers should be bankrupt, so we actually will only have the crap that someone makes for their YouTube channel, but only if they aren't making TOO much profit on it, at that point then their stuff should be stolen and distributed in such a way as to not make them any money.

    Totally sounds reasonable.

    You do realize, that there is no better, EVER, if there are no content makers, and nobody wants to be one because there is no motivation to do so, so congrats, you've destroyed an industry. What's next?

  12. Re:Sounds good. by Riceballsan · · Score: 2

    Piracy numbers are still a means to judge what content people watch. If people are pirating mindless drivel, it still encourages companies to make more mindless drivel in the hopes that they will eventually shut down those particular pirate networks (or people will start using the services that do pay them more often). You want to vote against crap you hate... don't watch it, don't distribute it, and pay for what you wish to see more of.

  13. Information about Set TV and illegal IPTV by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a fairly informative article about Set TV and how illegal IPTV services work: https://flixed.io/set-tv-not-l...

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  14. Re:The next site... by Glarimore · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't be surprised though if movies start becoming more interactive as a way to prevent piracy.

    I believe they call that a video game.

  15. Re:If obly by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

    I mean. next they will be going after people accessing broadcast television with an antenna....

    Are you equating someone pirating and rebroadcasting content illegally with someone legally receiving broadcast TV programming? Because that's a false equivalence.

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  16. Re:Sounds good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Except for musicians. No one has paid musicians correctly for decades and the music keeps flowing.

    And Poets. Poets get nothing no matter how you slice it.

    Oh, and most script writers.

    And a lot of authors. They hardly ever get paid what they're worth.

    Comet o think of it the only people who do get paid are producers of television and movies. Strange.

  17. Re:Sounds good. by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2

    Look, I'm sorry for you that Battlestar Galactica ended, but the TV industry is already undergoing a revolution and there is more and more long-tail content available than ever before. We don't need to "burn it all down" to make things better.

    Besides, "burn it all down" is never been a viable plan, because it completely ignore what happens next. Show me your plan for how to make things better (whether or not it's all burned down first) and I'll take you more seriously.

    Maybe you should try reading some books instead. There's a lot more variety to be found in the printed media than on television.

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  18. Re:If obly by mlw4428 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > while apparently being supportive of the progressive agenda. It's almost like you're living in a bubble and are out-of-touch.

    That was your first mistake. I just hate conservative ideology. I want to be left alone.

    > progressives attempt to control a persons life

    Like gay marraige, birth control, where mosques can be built, what's allowable on TV or movies, violence in video games, recreational use of drugs, various levels of "obscenity" censorship laws, anti-porn stances - yeah the conservative element is SO TOTALLY open and FREE. You're retarded. You're a retarded motherfucker. We're done here.

  19. Re:The next site... by farble1670 · · Score: 2

    Nope, you go in and make copies of everything. AC won't even notice unless he catches you in the act or is watching, either way he's in the exact same position as before you and your buddies turned up.

    Sigh. It it costs $25m to produce a series season, and no one subscribes because they all pirate the content, what do you think happens? This isn't hard. When you pirate, you mooch. You mooch from everyone that pays for a subscription. You rely on me paying for a subscription to subsidize your downloading.

  20. How's life in the hypocrite lane?