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Slashdot Asks: How Do You Like the New Gmail UI? (vortex.com)
Earlier today, Google pushed out the biggest revamp of Gmail in years. In addition to a new material design look, there are quick links to other Google services, such as Calendar, Tasks, and Keep, as well as a new "confidential mode" designed to protect users against certain attacks by having the email(s) automatically expire at a time of the sender's choosing. Long-time Slashdot reader Lauren Weinstein shares their initial impressions of Google's new Gmail UI: Google launched general access to their first significant Gmail user interface (UI) redesign in many years today. It's rolling out gradually -- when it hits your account you'll see a "Try the new Gmail" choice under the settings ("gear") icon on the upper right of the page (you can also revert to the "classic" interface for now, via the same menu). But you probably won't need to revert. Google clearly didn't want to screw up Gmail, and my initial impression is that they've succeeded by avoiding radical changes in the UI. I'll bet that some casual Gmail users might not even immediately notice the differences.
The new Gmail UI is what we could call a "minimally disruptive" redesign of the now "classic" version. The overall design is not altered in major respects. So far I haven't found any notable missing features, options, or settings. My impression is that the back end systems serving Gmail are largely unchanged. Additionally, there are a number of new features (some of which are familiar in design from Google's "Inbox" email interface) that are now surfaced for the new Gmail. Crucially, overall readability and usability (including contrast, font choices, UI selection elements, etc.) seem so close to classic Gmail (at least in my limited testing so far) as to make any differences essentially inconsequential. And it's still possible to select a dark theme from settings if you wish, which results in even higher contrast. Have you tried the new Gmail? If so, how do you like the new interface?
The new Gmail UI is what we could call a "minimally disruptive" redesign of the now "classic" version. The overall design is not altered in major respects. So far I haven't found any notable missing features, options, or settings. My impression is that the back end systems serving Gmail are largely unchanged. Additionally, there are a number of new features (some of which are familiar in design from Google's "Inbox" email interface) that are now surfaced for the new Gmail. Crucially, overall readability and usability (including contrast, font choices, UI selection elements, etc.) seem so close to classic Gmail (at least in my limited testing so far) as to make any differences essentially inconsequential. And it's still possible to select a dark theme from settings if you wish, which results in even higher contrast. Have you tried the new Gmail? If so, how do you like the new interface?
'Basic HTML' mode still works for me.. So I'm happy with the UI.. :)
It is so similar to the last theme I'm not sure I'd have even noticed the change. Why is this slight graphics refresh a news story?
Almost instantly reverted. The new UI wastes so much screen space -- and I'm running in compact mode (in both Classicy and New modes)
* Tabs (Primary, Social, Promotions, Updates, Forums) no longer have a vertical line separating them. You HAVE to mouse over them to see where each button ends.
* The left column of Inbox, Important, Sent Mail, etc. is wider.
* The 2nd column which showed the Senders and the number of emails in a thread no longer shows (#) but just the # number by itself.
* The middle columns are now less wide
* A new right column which shows vertical icons of Calendar, Keep, Tasks now wastes space
* The number of lines in the Inbox is now less due to the spacing between threads being increased.
Lauren Weinstein is a corporate shill who thinks ad blockers are unethical :
So i can careless, i POP all my email to Thunderbird until i cant. then will create my own email server but as long as i can POP it im happy.
Jack of all trades,master of none
I use an IMAP client to read my Gmail
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My IMAP interface with gmail remains unchanged. I have never been infected with the desire to use any webmail, especially Google's. As long as they allow IMAP or POP connections, I will continue to use gmail, but not for anything important.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
We have monochrome designs where we previously had full colour designs (Android, etc) with all the associated loss of valuable information.
We have flat designs where we can't see what's clickable.
We have thinner fonts and lines which are harder to read unless you have perfect vision.
Why isn't there massive pushback from all these changes which reduce usability instead of enhancing it ?
It's not plural in this case.
Their is a gender-neutral pronoun, singular.
Not going into the politics of it, I'm just a writer.
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Since the bloody article can't even show the visual differences here are screenshots comparing the old and new:
* The left column/sidebar of Inbox, Important, Sent Mail, etc. is wider. Number of unread are now in their own sub-column instead of immediately after the Folder name.
Old left Sidebar
New left Sidebar
* Tabs (Primary, Social, Promotions, Updates, Forums) no longer have a vertical line separating them. You HAVE to mouse over them to see where each button ends.
Old Tabs
New Tabs
* The 2nd column which showed the Senders and the number of emails in a thread no longer shows (#) but just the # number by itself making this harder to read.
Old senders
New senders
The Topic column is less wide, meaning you can't see entire short emails now.
Old subject
New subject
Do. Not. Want.
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Web consoles suck, period. They take twice as long to access and experience severe limitations in the way with which you can interact with them, even for something as simple as an email client.
Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
Here are step-by-step instructions to try out the new UI:
1. Click on Gear top right
2. Click on the first menu choice Try the new Gmail
If you don't see "Try the new Gmail" menu choice -- it hasn't been rolled out to your account (yet).
3. Select the layout Default, Comfortable, Compact
Don't worry if you picked the wrong choice. You can click on gear icon in the top right and the non-descript Display density to choose between the three.
Thankfully we can Go back to classic Gmail for now -- until Google rams it down our throats, whether we want it or not.
I think it's great having the option to always have the calendar up within the Gmail screen. It's something I've wanted for a long time.
The one really annoying piece for me is that the main window tooltips stay up too long (like the Refresh button). If you hover over an icon too long and move the cursor away, the tooltip stays up for over a second. Sounds short but it's way too long. The tooltips for the icons on the right side are timed correctly though.
I use the compact option with a dark theme so I don't see a lot of wasted space.
Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you!
I've no evidence for this, but the way he keeps defending big-G in the wake of all the privacy problems we've seen and continue to feel, he's been touting them as being stellar about privacy and that they would never, and bla.
Maybe it's true that unlike Facebook, Google doesn't sell your data. But the main reason for that is that they want to monetise you all by themselves. Also, nothing would stop them from doing so tomorrow.
Gmail innovations here or there, your best bet is to get rid of Google and Facebook, use plugins like uMatrix and Cookie AutoDelete and navigate the Web without splattering your fingerprints everywhere.
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It doesn't seem to be pushed to apps accounts / G Suite unfortunately.
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There it is in Thunderbird along with all my other email accounts. They all look alike in their little windows and they all function the same- no learning a different interface for each account. Some of these accounts date back to the last century and all the emails I want to keep are preserved here and on their servers. Never understood the concept of using a browser to read email.
...omphaloskepsis often...
IMAP/Thunderbird here. Web-based mail is so very Eternal September.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
That depends a lot on the style manual that you read. My publisher (Pearson - owns InformIT and the several imprints including Prentice Hall, Addison-Wesley) recommends alternating male and female pronouns for gender neutral terminology, but permits using the plural. I find the alternating horribly confusing (if you're talking about a single person and switching from he to she every use then it seems like you're talking about two people). I believe that the last two revisions of the Chicago Manual of Style also now endorse use of they and their as gender-neutral pronouns (though earlier editions were strongly against it). I think the Oxford style guide now also recommends 'they' as a gender-neutral pronoun, though that was a more recent change.
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I found that I could switch to the new UI in the Settings dropdown. I looked at it. I switched back to "Classic" mode.
I'll probably explore the new UI more fully later on. My first impression is that other than some font tweaking, it seems unchanged. Except that now some of the controls are harder to see since the font color almost disappears into my background image.
Due to the removal of Labs, I no longer have an upcoming calendar events on the left side. I can open a today view on the right, but not just a list of upcoming events.
I asked about disabling some of the changes on the Google Product Forums, and the "official" members told me there was no way to change them and to "Please use the in-app 'Send feedback' link to submit your request/issue directly to Google. You will not receive a response from Google."
("You will not receive a response from Google" seems like it ought to be their new motto.)
However a heroic stranger happened along and developed a number of CSS hacks usable via Stylish that cleans up almost all the most annoying elements of the new UI! So i now share my good fortune with you!
CSS Fixes for new Google UI
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